My biggest concern is how many illegals are
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My biggest concern is National Security. Obama
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If your biggest concern in life is the Palins, consider yourself blessed. nm
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benefits for illegals...
Alright which party is for doing something about the illegals that are crossing our border and not just to work but to take advantage of goverment benefits. More specific which person who is running? Has this been mentioned by any of them? Let me enlighten everyone on some things. Let everyone see just how messed up this country is becoming. I live near an illegal immigrant who has found out she is pregnant. Well she went to the office where you apply for Medicaid to pay for the baby and they told her unless she could prove she was a US citizen no help. Well that is the way it should be. She goes to Georgia. They say same thing. She has now gone to Louisiana, which is not the state where she even lives either. They are going to give her benefits. They don't even check. What is the deal? She is illegal, has a job that she said wanted proof she could work in the US legally. She got around that somehow. I don't know how. She pays no taxes here. But yet she can get Medicaid? What the heck is going on here? She doesn't even live in Louisiana. She gave them someone elses address. How can the country let this continue?
SCHIP and Illegals
I do not have an article where Bush himself said it; I heard him on TV on one of those blurbs talking about it. The opposition of the Republicans is that the present bill is an expansion of SCHIP (to the tune fo 6 billion dollars) and opens the door to make it easy for illegals to get on the program legally...although some states who administer SCHIP already do it on the "honor system" and don't ask for proof of citizenship, so you tell me how many are already on it.
This is from an article that sums up what I have read:
Democratic SCHIP Bill Benefits Illegal Immigrants, GOP Charges
(CNSNews.com) - House Republicans said Thursday they hope to block provisions of a Democratic bill to expand health care coverage for poor children that could open up the coverage to illegal immigrants.
The Children's Health and Medicare Protection (CHAMP) Act would expand the existing State Children's Health Insurance Program - more than doubling it in size - and "improve beneficiary protections under the Medicare, Medicaid and the [SCHIP] program."
As Cybercast News Service previously reported, the bill has come under fire from Republicans who view its expansions in coverage as a step toward nationalized health care. Republicans are now also attacking the bill because of three sections dealing with immigration issues.
"Illegal immigrants are about to get an unexpected boost thanks to the Democratic Congress," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said in a statement Thursday.
"The Democrats have a proposal that not only raises taxes on middle class families and slashes funding for a popular Medicare program ... it eliminates the requirement that persons applying for Medicaid or SCHIP service show proof of citizenship or nationality."
Calling the bill "poorly crafted," Boehner said the proposal would "dole out billions of dollars to states who then have the option of whether or not to verify that a person is an American citizen before providing taxpayer-funded health benefits like Medicaid and SCHIP. The bill also eliminates the current five-year waiting period required for legal immigrants to receive government health benefits."
One provision, Section 132, would remove a requirement that legal immigrants wait five years before being eligible for government-funded health care coverage, according to Republican opponents.
The other two sections have potential applicability to illegal residents. Section 143 would give states the option of requiring proof of citizenship for enrollment in the programs. Opponents say the provision allows states to "return to a system of blind trust."
As to pandering to get the Hispanic ILLEGAL vote, why do you think this bill is crafted this way from the Dems to make sure they can get their kids on SCHIP? Dems have been chasing the illegal immigrant vote even more so than Republicans...in fact, they COUNT on it. I have heard Bush talk about amnesty and that is one of the places that he and I disagree. Although, I don't think he is courting the Hispanic vote or he would not be vetoing a program that puts them right on the SCHIP rolls no questions asked...now would he??
I think it is more important to let the bill stay as-is for 6 months than to open it up as a freeforall for illegals to get their kids on it. YES, I think it is more important. I am not a Republican, but I am a fiscal conservative, and I certainly agree in this case.
And yes, before you ask, I have children. I may not have everything I want, but I can insure my kids. And I don't make $80,000 a year either...about expanding SCHIP to cover "middle income" families. They are talking about a family of 4 with total income of $80,000 a year (2 adults 2 kids) being eligible for a program that was designed to cover low income kids. THat is what...400% of the poverty level and how much higher than the median income in the US? I'm sorry, but an annual income of $80,000...there should be a way for those folks to cover their children. They are not talking about cancelling any other programs or any way to pay for this 6 billion dollar expansion other than a cigarette tax, which everyone knows will not cover it all. Yes, I think kids should have health care... but if they are going to pay for it for an annual income of $80,000 they might as well pay for it for ALL kids, period. And that is the first step toward socialized medicine, and I don't need a Democrat or a Republican to tell me that. I can see the handwriting on the wall. Do some research on socialized medicine in Canada...the pros and the cons...and see if you really want that happening here.
And if they are going to do that, they might as well pay it for everyone = socialized medicine. Be careful what you ask for. Government run medical care...I don't think you want to go there.
And, frankly, if they want to expand it to cover a family of 4 making $80,000 a year, I don't think it should be a freebie. Maybe offered at a lower rate than families who make more than that...but come on. A family making $80,000 a year should be able to insure their children. Insuring their children should be their FIRST priority. You tell me what would keep a family of 4 with annual income of $80,000 from being able to insure their children? If anything, it is because 35-40% of their income comes off the top in TAXES right now to pay for all the social programs in this country. Why not LOWER taxes to help them pay their premiums instead of taxing us all MORE to give them health care? Why not do that? But you say tax cut to a Democrat and they get apoplectic.
Perhaps it is because people don't want to prioritize and don't want to do without anything in order to insure their children, would rather spend it on something else. There ARE families who choose to do that. You are naive if you think there are not.
Honestly, if we do not control spending, and we give more and more entitlements and extend those entitlements higher and higher up the income level...can you not see the vicious circle? Are we going to extend it in another 5 years for families of 4 who make $120,000 a year because we have taxed everyone so much that now THEY can't afford to insure their children? Come on! Why not prioritize? Take all the money earmarked for social programs, put insuring children at the top, insure all the children if that is what the american people think is most important, and whatever is left, dole out to the remaining programs. Try prioritizing instead of more programs, more taxes, more programs, more taxes. I personally think that 35-40% in taxes off the top of our incomes is ENOUGH.
Stimulating Illegals
Investor's Business Daily 03/12/09
Economy: At least 300,000 of those stimulus jobs will go to illegal aliens who are likely to send that money home to their native countries. Just whose economy are we stimulating?
The stimulus package is supposed to stimulate the American economy and create American jobs, but missing from it are measures to guarantee that. As a result, say both the Heritage Foundation and the Center for Immigration Studies, hundreds of thousands of these jobs will go to illegal aliens, and much of the money they earn will not be spent here.
The original House version included a provision requiring employers to check registration status with the E-Verify system before hiring. This provision was missing from the Senate bill and was not in the final version sent to President Obama.
The Obama administration has also delayed at least until May 21 a Bush administration executive order requiring federal contractors to use E-Verify. It was supposed to take effect in January.
Last Tuesday, 75 representatives of both parties sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Minority Leader John Boehner urging them "to protect taxpayers and legal workers by including these critical jobs protection provisions in any future economic recovery legislation."
In a February report by the Heritage Foundation, senior research fellow Robert Rector looked at the 2 million construction jobs the stimulus is supposed to create. "Without specific mechanisms to ensure that workers are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants authorized to work," he concluded, "it is likely that 15% of these workers, or 300,000, would be illegal immigrants."
Steven Camarota, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies, comes up with the same figure for construction jobs based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Survey and other independent findings that 15% of all construction workers in the U.S. are illegal aliens.
Camarota says the total number of stimulus jobs going to illegals may be higher. At least a million more jobs are said to be created by the stimulus, and with 5% of the overall U.S. work force consisting of illegals, they could get another 50,000 non-construction jobs.
Rector sees another downside. "The fact that illegal aliens send a substantial portion of their earnings abroad reduces the stimulus effect that their employment has in the United States," he says.
Remittances, Mexico's second-largest source of foreign income after oil, dipped 3.6% to $25 billion in 2008, compared with $26 billion the previous year, according to Mexico's central bank. Will our stimulus improve Mexico's economy?
"It's outrageous that in a bill designed to provide employment for Americans, Congress has deliberately chosen to allow jobs to be given to illegal immigrants," Rector adds.
We think so too.
He wants amnesty for illegals. How is that
How is amnesty for illegals GOOD for Americans? It's NOT! Cut off the ability for them to work here. Every time they are picked up by police, ship them home. Secure the border. Compared to all the spending Obama wants to do, these are CHEAP solutions that will free up jobs for hard-working Americans. Not great jobs, no, but jobs that can help make ends meet in hard times! Jobs for the ones first laid off! Spending money on "good" causes is not what is needed during a crisis like this. Saving money and very careful spending that promotes private enterprise and hiring are what will rescue us.
I completely disagree with the Republicans who stopped the 95% taxing of the bonuses to AIG employees. That was one obviously smart thing the Dems were trying to do, and I'm furious the Reps stopped it.
I've been sending faxes to my reps on these important issues. You can too, through the Numbers USA website. Let our elected leaders know we aren't falling for their propaganda, and we know there are smarter, cheaper solutions to our country's problems. www.numbersusa.com/
Amnesty for illegals
I am amazed nearly everyday with the idiotic things that come from our government. This one about made me spit out my beverage when I heard it. Amnesty for illegals is a horribly bad idea. What message does that send to the ones who are trying to become citizens the right way. This also sends a message for more and more illegals to come our way. This is an outrage. Absolutely ridiculous! We spend billions of dollars on illegals the way that it is.
This wouldn't have anything to do with Obama's aunt or anything.....now would it? Or maybe this is just his ploy to get more votes by turning them into legal citizens. Either way.....it is an ignorant thing to do. This is one area I truly 100% disagreed with McCain on. He wanted amnesty too.
BAD IDEA!!!
1 MILLION ILLEGALS have mortgages!!
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This thread is about bailing out illegals,
but I don't agree with bailing out the banks and CEOs either.
Bullhockey, illegals are paid in cash, there is NO tax being taken out. nm
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Illegals voting???? One word ACORN. nm
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I want secure borders to keep out terrorists and illegals...
Having lived in a border state and, now, even further north, it is evident that illegal immigrants are taking over our country. We are in a financial crisis and yet, much of a social service money goes to those who do not even pay taxes on the money they earn. They sure as heck spend our taxes, though. I am not against immigrants, just those who do not do it legally. There are certain hoops that need to be jumped through and, I bleieve, are well worth it to live in this great country.
By law he can detain illegals......unfoturtunately our laws
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And yet MILLIONS of illegals are taking jobs in this
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you're wrong, S. FLA the illegals paid on the books
at least the ones I know.....the ones who did arrive with at least a visa.....and who get paid off a company payroll and not off the books or in cash is what I mean....
we'd be better off without illegals..he deserves a commendation, not a civil suit...
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heck I wouldn't mind giving illegals benefits if I could
and i'm nervous about my 3 month waiting period at my new job for health insurance!
My overall concern is that it is the US
that are detaining these children, and there doesn't seem to be much transparency about what is really going on. I would like full disclosure. It seems that quite a few agencies that have inquired about it have been shunned, at least in the beginning. And in the beginning, a lot of these children were being detained in adult jails/camps and interrogated as adults. That I believe is a war crime and someone should be held accountable.
I would feel much more comfortable and positive about the overall situation if it were being handled soley by the Iraqi people. If not, it will look like coercion. I'm not saying we shouldn't help, but that perhaps it should be more of a long-arm approach (for the lack of a better way to say it). The average Iraqi citizen does not teach their children to kill. It is the extreme Islamists who are preying upon them. It is a very delicate situation that could very well backfire regardless that our intentions are good ones.
I do appreciate your concern about
In a creepy way, I get this slimey feeling that the ACORN controversy is a set-up for exactly that. To make matters worse, I think Ohio will not be alone this year and that every state will face its challenges in this regard. Thing is, it's a little late in the game to be "fixing" that problem now. The progressives have been talking about this problem ever since the last election, but until now, those concerns have been falling on deaf ears.
No concern until one of their own
of course it does not concern them unless one of their own family are blown up, shot, kidnapped or whatever happens the next time. And don't think there won't be a next time since our country is showing such weakness now. When it happens to one of their own they will be screaming to high heaven and forget that they backed this closing.
My big concern is what is attached to that
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So, I have a question/concern.
Why are the presidential candidates not talking more about pulling us away from oil? or more strategies to get us off oil? I may be wrong, so please correct me, but I have not heard anything specific about this issue. John Kerry is the only one I have heard, but not sure how effectual he is.
Last night on Hardball, the money man said to expect that a gallon of gas to go as high as $20 a gallon in the next 10 to 20 years. Insane. What is that going to do to the world economy? I see a global recession coming, and at the rate the US is dragging their feet, we are going to be the hit very, very hard because we still rely too much on oil for just about everything, from cars to home heating to food.
What are we to do?
Cute.....have a job, thank you so much for your concern...
check the conservative board, liberals post there too. Is it your day to watch me? LOL.
I don't know if concern is the word,
I would like any prospective President to have some first hand knowledge of the rest of the world AND have some kind of relationship with other world leaders. I think both of those are hard to achieve if you cocoon yourself in your own country.
Another huge concern........
Where is all the money coming from being donated to Obama's campaign. They are using fake names. Why? Now, most common sense folks will know why if we don't want to deceive ourselves. No doubt Muslim organizations, corrupt groups, terrorists related groups.....you name it. See how well that never gets reported on most of your news channels. FOX has tried and is bringing it up again but try to get others, with the exception of Lou Dobbs, who will call a spade a spade....and please don't get racial with me.....you know what I mean.
Still a big concern for those not so easily
Palin's clothes, her trips, family trips. Who cares!!
If you don't want to hear about it, too bad! I can see where you wouldn't; doesn't look good for him.
OF course they are....that's one of the biggest
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Thank you so much for your concern about my energy level.
Where's the concern for the dying US children?
I don't know whether you are a Republican or Democrat (or neither), but I have found that many Republicans are against this bill. The ironic thing to me is that many Republicans are pro-life. Many care so much about saviing the babies in the womb, but where is the concern for little children who are suffering? I think it's hypocritical for one to say that they care so much about bringing this life into the world and giving it a chance to live, and yet if that same child gets leukemia it's on it's own because God forbid our taxes might get raised or something.
Sometimes you just have to DO THE RIGHT THING. I believe the right thing is health insurance for all American children. What would Jesus do? 
Well, it makes him decidedly more of a concern...
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She's not an Obama supporter so no concern
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Yeah, we can see that by your post over your concern
Grow up already.
It's not hate, is deep concern
I don't hate Obama. I think he's a fine person. Great with giving speeches and beautiful family. Personally I will enjoy hearing his voice give a speech over McCains voice and was really getting sick of hearing "my friends" in every other sentance of a speech McCain gave. So it's not that I or others hate Obama. Unlike the hate we have seen from the other side.
What it is is very deep concerns that everything we have worked for and everything we aspire for and live for and save for and teach our kids is going to change for the worse. I do not think Obama is qualified to be president. I don't and that is my opinion. Evidently other people do feel otherwise and therefore he became president (which I still have doubts that a president is really elected by the people - I think he was already picked a long time ago). But my gut feeling is the same exact feeling I had for Clinton. He promised us so much while he was campaigning and once he got in he screwed the country royally. This is the same feeling.
I hope I am wrong and honestly if I am wrong and if he does do good things I WILL be on this board and admit that I am wrong. But at the same time when I hear and read that he is doing somthing wrong, not fullfilling (sp?) his campaign promises I will also be on this board posting too.
I will admit that I am not always right, but when I feel strongly and when I feel I am right I speak my mind.
My main concern is his redistribution of weath. I'll tell you if my taxes go up so that people like that girl (forget her name) who said it was a historic moment and never in her whole life did she ever think she would not have to work to pay her mortgate and would not have to work to buy gas - if my taxes go up so that way she can pay her rent and gas and bills because I had to put in an extra 10 hours of work to pay the extra taxes for HER!!!!! You can bet your you know what I'm going to be on this board screaming and shouting.
But DH and I were talking and we said maybe it is someone like Obama who will finally be able to do something right and fight for Americans. One never knows. So if he does I will come on and admit I was wrong.
why don't you show as much concern for the spectacle
right and left, as we speak. You just can't stand the fact that Obama is going to be a fine leader, ran a brilliant campaign, is loved by people all over the world while pub party is basically turning into a laughing stock.
I predict he will be a one-termer....thanks for your concern, tho
NO! Your post above: **My concern lies more with
WHAT LYING?
That's the biggest truth - no msg
Forgot about that one - and that was the biggest lie of all
Just because people love Gore doesn't make him right. Just cos he wrote a book and bought himself a Nobel Peace Prize doesn't mean anything (except he's got a lot of money), and guess where he gets that from. That big ol fat lie he lays on everyone how only people create global warming. By the way do you ever notice its only Americans. So he pours all these phony "carbon credits", which of course benefits his company and he gets money from that. The guy has got one fail proof scheme going. Of course he won't give up any of gas guzzling SUV's, buses, private planes, etc. He won't give up anything he's telling other people they need to give up. Wonder how much electricity and energy it takes to heat his mansion, yet people like me in my 2 bedroom apartment are suppose to cut back more (so he can go on enjoying the good life). Oh Gosh, sorry, did not mean to go off about Algore. The guy is the biggest liar and phony. Now I know where Obama/Bidens thinking lies.
The fact of the matter is that Palin was correct last night. She said people do contribute, however, it is also part of the climate. People need to start ignore Algore and all of his infinite wisdom (NOT) and start listening to the people who have been studying this for years. The people who are not benefitting from spewing absolute garbage and making a profit off of it.
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This is one of the biggest reasons
I'm not voting for him. I understand we cannot do away with abortion completely (as much as I wish we could) but to just have open season on killing babies? Whew.
I'm telling you, next we will be aborting the elderly! Anyone of inconvenience will be getting a needle in the head!
She is the biggest fake there is. She truly looks
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One of the biggest benefits of my job is
that I don't have far to drive to get to work!
And that is one of my biggest problems, unfortunately....sm
In my case, I take 20 (yes 20) meds to keep going; I have horrible autoimmune diseases. But you know what? I would rather take them and keep working, keep learning, and set an example for my kids NOT TO GIVE UP rather than go an file for SSDI/disability; I was told I could probably get it easily eough, but I get a pride and sense of accomplishment and worth from my work that is GOOD for me, and as long as I can satisfy my bosses, I will keep working, God willing. People who are healthy do not understand needing so many meds and doctors and tests, and even with insurance what the co-pays add up to.....THOUSANDS. Bringing up three children is also costly, though absolutely priceless and the best thing I ever did with my life. We are at a point in economic history where it has NEVER been more expensive to feed, clothe, house, give medial/dental care to, and help with education for children....and I am not crying, whining, or looking for a martydom medal. Just trying my ultimate best each day, and thought the wage thing MIGHT be one of many solutions, what we have been doing in the past HAS NOT WORKED for so many reasons. Anyway, I truly hope you personally are doing much, much better these days, it takes time and faith, but life CAN get better...all the best to you!!
Patronizing fake concern for the doggies.
Why don't you post a message with something IN it for a change:) Might help you get rid of some pent up hostility of your own.
No hate from me, just profound concern for my country.
I pray you're right and he does an awesome job. I would have no problem whatsoever apologizing for any negativity I've felt or repeated. I believe we all need to come together now and look forward.
My concern lies more with the lying than the faith...
There are plenty of good people who are Muslim, just as there are plenty of bad people who claim to be Christian. I see it in my church. You cannot judge an entire religion on the actions of the few, but I am troubled that he would lie about his religion to get elected. However, I am really not sure what religion he is. I dislike his politics, nonetheless. I think we are in a world of hurt either way, to be honest.
That's the biggest pile of hogwash I ever saw!
I'm a libertarian but I have a lot of friends in both right and left. I never heard any of them say things like this. Absurd!
I have determined that liberals are the biggest
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In my opinion, the biggest problem in
Washington is the Lobbyists. We need to get rid of them. They are not there for the American people, they are there for their own interests - the companies that they do work for. Both sides have them - I know Biden's son was one and McCain has what, 7 of them on his team. So it is a bipartisan problem.
I don't believe Universal healthcare is the only answer, but I do believe some sort of a plan would be beneficial. I have friends that live in different parts of the world, Sweden, France, and England - they have healthcare plans and they are a lot better than anything I get with my insurance. They may pay more in taxes, but by my calculations it is what I would be paying in premiums and deductibles anyway.
This was one of Hillary's biggest donors...
a friend of hers, an advisor to her campaign. You are right...this is a BIG deal.
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