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I did not say oppression did not exist...

Posted By: Observer on 2008-03-13
In Reply to: Oppression - Oh please

what I did say was that it would be worse had it not been for a lot of fed-up white Republicans, and history bears that out, if you would take the time to look at it.

And friend, whites are being oppressed as well. Any time you take race strictly (no matter what race) as the qualifier for ANYthing whether it be a job, a scholarship, being pulled over by a cop, etc...is WRONG. It is wrong for a black or Hispanic or Asian or whatEVER to be given a scholarship based strictly on race over a caucasian who is academically superior. Yep, WRONG. And it is WRONG for a cop to pull over someone strictly because they are black. Yep, WRONG. However, federal LAW mandates the educational and job discrimination, and in an effort to "make up" to blacks for oppression, now we oppress Caucasians? That is no more right. Federally imposed quotas? How is that RIGHT?

I don't know where "around here" is, but if you can prove people are not hiring qualified races other than Caucasian there is a federal remedy. And there certainly is not a federal remedy for not hiring someone who is caucasian because they are caucasian? You think that does not happen? Are YOU living in a bubble?

What I said was racism is wrong and I said that clearly. And that means it is wrong no matter WHAT race it is aimed at...black, white, yellow, red, or polka-dotted!! PERIOD.


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Oppression
So blacks and other people of color are no longer oppressed? Where do you live, in a bubble. Oppression happens every day, in many forms, like being pulled over because you are black and driving a Mercedes, that makes you either a drug dealer or a their immediately until you can prove otherwise. This is just one little example of day-to-day oppression people of color face.

I'm not talking about scholarships or jobs (though lots of folks around here won't hire anyone that isn't white, but I guess that isn't oppression either).


Torture and Oppression?
What kind of marshmallow life have you been living, my dear? Do you have any idea what some people go through in other parts of the world?

How can we help but laugh at you if you insist on making a fool of yourself?
So right you are. O will only allow MSNBC to exist...
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opportunities do exist for everyone...
some people just choose not to avail themselves of them. they prefer to have other people take care of them while they sit and do nothing but complain.
That doesn't even exist!!!
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in the name of Christianity until Jesus left this earth. (Acts 11:26). Homosexuality was defined as wrong long before that.


How much you want to bet these same problems will exist in 2008? nm

The word "abortion" did not even exist....
when the Bible was written. The Bible is very clear on murder. The strict Hebrew translation of the word that has been translated as "kill" in "Thou shalt not kill" should actually be "Thou shalt not murder." The word means premeditated killing of another human being. Which is exactly what abortion is. Abortion kills the baby...equals murder. I don't know how you can be sure "plenty of it was going on during biblical times." But, if it was, the Bible was very clear on it. It was...and is...murder. Yes, it has been legalized but it does not change what it is. Just call it what it is. Yes, it kills the baby, and we don't care, the mother's need trumps the baby's right to life. That is the unvarnished truth of it.
does this word exist, or is it made up?...nm
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Common sense does not exist with the dems
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If there already exist specific written policies

pertaining to personal workspace adornment (size, number and/or appropriateness of photographs, posters, banners, political content, sports memorabilia, etc.) then I would agree with you.  If you don't like the policy, don't work there.  Your office is not your personal gallery.


If the company doesn't want somebody hanging up a Soviet flag, then they're probably going to have to prohibit Old Glory as well.


However, if this is a policy formulated on the spur of the moment to appease a complainer, then I disagree.  What's next?  An Ohio State fan complaining about a Michigan pennant in the next cubicle?)  Nor do I agree that new policies should be formulated after the fact to deal with an existing situation just because nobody foresaw it.  If it's an important issue, then a rule should already cover it. 


If this is a public area (waiting room/reception area) then I am sure the company must have had the foresight to write a standard regarding decor, since all visitors will see this.  In my opinion, if it ain't covered in that policy, it should be okay.


Interesting that people voluntarily come to this country, going to considerable effort to get here, then so easily become offended and need special accommodations.  What is it they don't understand about "liberty"?  If an American coworker complained about the Ugandan flag in a neighboring workspace, there would be h*ll to pay!  Disciplinary action against the complainer.  Law suits!  ACLU involvement!   Paid leave  and free counseling for the Ugandan employee to get over the trauma of the event!


With all due respect, I didn't bring up white racists (which I know exist), I was talking about s
the people who are zealous about white power and who will feel compelled to do something bad about a black president. I know it could go either way, but my post was stated because of the high probability that our next President will be black. I understand you completely when you say that there are white racists.

As for Louis Farrkhan, my college roommate was a member of the Nation of Islam and was so racist. She once told me that the reason white folks have those red dots in their eyes
when pictures are taken is because they are all evil and are satan's children. She truly believed that. It was very difficult living with her and I tried to get a transfer out of there, but couldn't and had to put up with A LOT of racism from this black woman. So, I know all about reverse racism.

Yes, the chips exist honey. I was speaking directly to the hysteria evoked
It shows a distinct lack of knowledge about the world and the peoples who inhabit it.

As to those that perpetuate this mythos...well, if you allow anyone to prey on your fears, you give them power over you. People need to investigate all sides of an issue, not just the perspective they agree with or the one spoonfed to them.