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Hey! I'll celebrate St. Patty's Day witcha!

Posted By: O fan on 2008-02-25
In Reply to: We are ready - anon

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This is nothing to celebrate, unless another trillion
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She still didn't say you couldn't celebrate the 4th
You said that she wanted to take away your right to celebrate the 4th which was a lie. You are obviously the liar here.

You sound like someone in the second grade. You are wo what am I. Pathetic.
Celebrate Obama's presidency!

In "celebration" of this stimulus and a month of his presidency, let's see if Obama has lived up to his promises. I will let you score your president.


Here are the 7 promises.


1. Make government open and transparent.


2. Make it "impossible" for Congressmen to slip in pork barrel projects.


3. Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public. (Even Congressional Republicans shut out.)

4. No more secrecy.


5. Public will have 5 days to look at a bill.


6. You’ll know what’s in it.


7. We will put every pork barrel project online.


Who wants to celebrate a "religion" that hates
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Haven't posted in a while but HERE TO CELEBRATE Obama!
Happy days are here again
TO PATTY: sm
I am a born again, Bible believing Christian. I agree that homosexuality is WRONG! I don't want my grandkids taught this stuff in school and I don't want them exposed to it if I can help it. The Bible says its an abomination.

I am also the mother of a gay, 35-year-old son. He knows how his family feels about it and he does not expose us to his boyfriends.

That being said, I think you are living in a box and are being very cruel. There are people being murdered and tortured all the time because they are homosexuality. Quite like the KKK who murdered black people. To say this doesn't happen is just a little peek into how really ignorant and uninformed you are.

Please see my other note to you about the so-called Rev. Fred Phelps out in Kansas. This man is no more a Reverend than I am. He is nothing but a hate monger who has a congregation made up mostly of his own relatives. It is nothing but a cult and a front for violence and hate against homosexuals. That is no more "christian" than homosexuality itself. Mr. Phelps and his "bunch" bring nothing but shame and reproach upon the cause of Christ.

With all that in mind, please, PLEASE wake up! Homosexuals are murdered every day in this country and all over the world by the same kind of hateful people who murdered blacks back in the 50s because they were black. The KKK was supposedly a "christian" organization too.

When I first started reading your posts I agreed with alot of what you said about homosexuality. But after you made fun of folks talking about how gays are killed all the time, it made me rethink. Your true colors are coming out and it is not very Christ like at all.

To Patty

Patty, first of all I would like to say that I also share in your views that homosexuality is wrong.  It is my religious right to feel this way, political right or just plain right of opinion and I would hope people would not attack me for my beliefs.  I just wish Patty that instead of getting yourself worked up you would pray for God to lead you in the direction that you could HELP people better understand the Bible and to better understand the pathway to Heaven.


Throughout the years Christians have gotten a lot of backlash as being hypocritical, judgmental and things along those lines.  A lot of people are on the fence as to whether or not they believe in God or believe in the Bible and then a Christian comes along that instead of being supportive and showing how much we and God loves them, they point out and chastise their sins.  That is what you are doing and I personally do not believe that any of your statements made on this board would make a person see homosexuality as wrong and choose to follow a path of God.


You make many statements saying that God tells you to hate the sin.  God tells us to be his servants.  Hating the sin Patty, would be you NOT committing this sin.  It is not you not buying particular music or you pointing out to everyone of such a sin.  If you are wanting to explain yourself, how about post the Bible versus you are referring to, pray about it and let people make their own decisions.  You cannot force your beliefs on anyone.


I understand that you said you would not buy this young man's music.  That is your right.  Would you sit by him if he came to your church?  Would you INVITE him to come to church with you?  How about invite him to Sunday dinner at your house after church?


My husband and I are both are very involved in ministry work and we have helped so many people with many different sins.  I never look at those people by what sins they have committed.  I do not want them looking at me by what sins I have committed either.  We are God's servants.  We are to serve him by bringing people TO him, by spreading His word, by showing them what joy it brings you to be a Christian and how happy we are to walk with the Lord.  We are not God's police to point out sins of others.  We are not to judge others.  We are not to imply that one sin would be worse than another one because they are all equal in our Father's eyes.


I will pray for you Patty and I will pray for understanding for other people as well.


Oh Patty! I also am a Christian and sm
I also know that homosexuality is against God's word and is WRONG. BUT to say that no-one is being killed over this, is living in a tunnel! There have been many stories of murders of folks just because they are homosexual.

To me, the worst example of this is the bunch out in Kanasas that go by the name of Westboro Baptist Church and the Rev. Fred Phelps! If this group could get away with murder, they would. But, I don't consider them a church at all, at least not a church as the Bible talks about, let alone a Baptist church. Tehy are nothing more than a hate group like the KKK hiding behind a church sign. This group brings shame and reproach upon teh name and the cause of Christ.

Please wake-up Patty, there are homosexuals being killed every day just because they are homosexual!

BTW, to open up a real hornest nest, I am the mother of a 35 year old gay son. I don't agree with him either and he knows it and in no way would I support his lifestyle choice. But I also don't want him murdered because he is living this way either.

I listened to your posts until you said "give us a break, you are breaking my heart." That head-in-the-sand attitude really breaks my heart. These posters are not making this up, many many stories of folks being murdered because they are homosexual.
Be very careful what you say, Patty. As
the mother of 3 young men, the oldest now 41, who were raised in church being taught the Bible is God's inspired Holy Word. Being their mom, I consider them "good boys." Let me tell you, over 41 years, I have had a pretty healthy diet of words. Unless you have walked in someone else's shoes you have no right to tell that person what you would or would not do because you have no idea what you would do. I'm sure MTTL has shed many tears and prayed many prayers over this. She is no more responsible for her son's sins as an adult as I am for my sons' sins as adults. This does not mean we stop loving them, that would be unnatural love. Please rethink your post.
Patty's not far from the truth of this...........
California has a tremendously LARGE population of gays and most gays know Christian beliefs do not approve of gay marriage; California has already shot that down even though some are still trying to push their agendas/lifestyle off on everyone else as acceptable.

It is no secret that the gay rights push out there is tremendous and no doubt a lot of hate for the Christian community, so if you think it's a far fetched idea that gays/lesbians are behind this, you really need to open your eyes. Bet if we could see behind the walls of their neighbors, you would find gays who know they are holding a Bible study and THEY are the ones that started this crap in the first place.

You're right, Christians have sat back and let this happen because we all get hammered when we speak out against homosexual behavior, but those that have spoken out against it in California will be subjected to being singled out and gays trying to cause trouble for them.....that isn't so far fetched to believe.

Friends of mine who live out there do say they too strongly believe gays reported this Bible study they didn't like in the first place and have strong reasons to believe this. They also know a great majority of those in political positions are gay and will do everything in their power to also push the Bible studies to stop..... period! Anywhere!


Patty, just get off this particular thread.

It is very obvious that you are a minority here and you're just trying to stir the pot, as you always do.  Nobody wants to hear your bigoted idiotic statements about something you know nothing about, so just keep handling your snakes and leave everybody else's sex life alone.  It is none of your business!!


I agree with you 100% Patty
I may not agree with you on a lot of issues but this is one I'm with you ALL the way.

Why they think it's okay to bash Bush and call him names, but the O is supposed to get a pass when he is doing harm/wrong to the country.

Kudo's to you for saying so.
Wrong! In the words of Patty

who actually did play the race card first: 


' I could be discriminated against too.....if I chose to be homo but I don't. Our sexual partner is a choice. Rosa Parks couldn't change her color and women can't cut off their vaginas. You CAN choose who you have sexual relations with. Now stop blubbering. You're making puddles.'


As Rosa Parks was a black woman who defied the law to sit in the whites-only part of the bus, I believe Patty brought up the race subject to which I was merely responding. 


Patty you are talking out both sides sm
of your mouth here! You label yourself a Christian but yet you tell your kids its "BEST" to wait til you find the person you want to spend your life with? If you believe what the Bible really says, you will teach those kids that God created sex to be within a marriage relationship. I know most folks are not going to like that but I am going by what the Bible teaches. If you are Christian then you should be teaching your kids what the Bible teaches. They may not agree but they will at least be taught.
Sorry, JTBB, I agree with Patty. I do not
believe everything what the Bible says, but I believe that homosexuality is wrong.
Not because it is written in the Bible, because it just IS. It always was and still is.
I do not hate them, I would never do something bad to them, I wish them all the best, but I just would not even socialize with them, especially as a mother with kids.
You're right about one thing, Patty.
Your mental disease is downright UGLY!!
Just wondrin' Patty: Who put you in charge . . .
of deciding what is a "sound" law or not?  LOL
Patty, I like that...can I borrow your word, "asscream"?

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So true! I think Patty & Aunt Louise should go
All that narrow-mindedness and hatred really gets old.
I am an atheist and yet I agree with Patty so find

a different name to call me.  In your small world you believe that anyone who is against O is a far right, Bible thumping conservative and that is just not the case, as I am proof of it.  Yes, I voted for him, worked on his campaign for 2 years because I truly believed every word that he spewed but with every passing day I regret that. 


Patty: that's what you are believing, you with your 'biblical, caged' mind..nm
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I was talking about the slander that is going on on this board! Wake up, Patty!..nm
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Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in PA

And is moving their plant to MEXICO.  It's situations like this where NAFTA should be renegotiated and remove any profit incentive for companies to take away American jobs like this.


Although I really like York Peppermint Patties, I don't think I'll continue to buy this product.


Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in Pa.


By Associated Press



READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.


After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.


The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.


The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.


Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.




READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.


After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.


The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.


The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.


Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.


http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/39968037.html


 


Patty: this baby hadmore than health problems, it had NO brain!...nm
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I'll double that 'amen', and I'll raise you one!
amen
Oh. Well, they'll have to kill me before they'll censor

We'll see who'll be laughing tomorrow.
Bet it's me!
If O "fails", then you'll probably like him more cuz he'll

So when the terrorists come, you'll just say STOP or I'll say STOP again? nm

I'll be.
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We'll see...
  Again, you might want to consider a bib for the drool...
Okay I'll say it again...
I condem sexual abuse and from AR says he/she does too, but please don't generalize the whole of conservatives because of what one guy did in Washington or Oregon. That would be like me saying that all liberals are responsible for what the extreme left is doing like burning down SUV dealerships in the name of environmental protection.
I'll tell ya
I'm 25 and in college. Right before Bush got re-elected, my Composition class was discussing the state of things (we had just read a sort of anti-war book). Anyway, I was the only one (aside from my Professor) that spoke up against the war in my class. The others were so angry with me (how dare I be unpatriotic!) that I was seriously afraid people were going to jump me or something!! The same thing happened in another class around the same time. I haven't had a class discussion about it since then, but I'd be curious to see if they all feel so passionately for the war now.
yes, i'll be around!
In an uncertain world, reason should prevail. Besides, I have an axe to grind. My chemo drug runs $6,000 per month (who can afford that). I have had to fight insurance companies like a pitbull with lipstick (kak). I have watched my entire life go down the toilet due to illness and I have worked hard my whole life, paid taxes, obeyed the law, etc., and now..........I can try to at least make an impact on something that means so much to future of our country.
And I'll bet YOU don't, right? We all have

I'll bet....
you voted for BUSH both times, too!!! Now that's good judgment. Bye-Bye Now, Bye-Bye.
well you'll just have to

keep on bein' that way, I guess.


 


we'll never know now, will we? sm
Obama never does anything that's not according to the script or teleprompter. That's why he looked so foolish at his press conference, with all his ers and uhs. Didn't have all his talking points memorized yet.

Who could believe that?

Yea, well, if you believe that you'll believe
Government does hope this stays as quite as possible until it already happens. Poster who spoke of Kent State knows exactly what I'm talking about. POLICE STATE!

"nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them". Citizens' rights are violated every day by our police with "tasers" and other "nonlethal" things but somehow they manage to kill. One guy practically bragging about how big he is and how the taser really hurt him. We already have tasers that police use and abuse. Perhaps you would like to tell me why military needs them on our streets.

If you think it is that benign, what the h@ll do they need equipment for controlling citizens for? Just like national ID sounds benign enough to those who refuse to see it for what it is. There are lots of things that seemed benign to some while your civil rights were being thrown in the toilet and then as time went by and people become complacent, BOOM, all of a sudden you find yourself screwed over and wonder how that ever happened! It was right under your nose.

Of course, it will all seem benign enough until reasons start appearing out of nowhere as to why military need to patrol our streets

"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control"

hello....wake up!!! We have the police "force" for that. They do a fine enough job of interfering with our civil rights, what do you think the military will do.....hand you a cupcake and milk?

All you need to do is look at history in other countries to see how this seemingly harmless environment creeped into their lives and now their children grow up with military roaming the streets, monitoring "their" every move, until it seems perfectly normal to them....except for those who never accept the fact they are being controlled and those are ones who you see being trampled by their military while they try their best to protest for their freedom from government control.

Little by little by little.......
if ya'll can do about SP
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I'll help you out here......
The Qur’an dehumanizes non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:

Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)

Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. Verse 2:65 continues the theme.

Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to "panting dogs" with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness.

A hadith says that Muhammad believed rats to be "mutated Jews" (Bukhari 54:524, also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).

Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than demons who believe in Muhammad.

I'll second that
While Billy was president I could not stand him (I voted for him the first time but after 6 months was disappointed and by the end of the first year with him I loathed him and cringed anyone I saw him or his wife "the anointed one". However, with all that has happened over the past few weeks he is finally starting to make sense.

I just think the country has done such a dis-service to Hillary and voted in a man that came from nowhere (and has done nothing).

I am glad Billy is finally starting to wise up and speak the truth.
sorry-I'll try again
Year Total income Gifts to charity Federal taxes
2000 $240,726 $2,350 $63,732

2001 $275,123 $1,470 $86,072

2002 $260,824 $1,050 $68,958

2003 $238,327 $3,400 $51,856

2004 $207,647 $2,500 $40,426

2005 $1,670,995 $77,315 $545,614

2006 $991,296 $60,307 $277,431


Well, I'll say this.........
making such a big deal out of "Joe the plumber" was pretty juvenile on the part of McCain and Palin.  IMHO good ole Joe was probably a republican plant paid to ask that question but then what do I know?
something you'll never see on tv

Love the "disco pants!"  Of course, SP would do it in a heartbeat with a smile on her face.  They'd have to put Michelle in a straight jacket.  Can't you just picture it?


The libs just don't have a sense of humor like the rest of us!







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And to add to this so ya'll can

get all your slams on me at once.  LOL


I also believe that people should have the right to protect themselves in their homes.  If someone breaks into my home, I should have a right to shoot them.  In my opinion, they took a risk breaking into my house.  I am not going to take the chance of them hurting me or my kids.  So don't break into my house because I will shoot you and then I will rip my clothes and beat my head into a wall to make it look like I was attacked and was using self defense.  LOL!


I'll ask again.
WHICH question did Joe Biden NOT answer, as you alleged?
I'll add another bet. S/M
IF McCain/Palin get in the White House, I will bet that in 2012 the Republicans will have about as good a chance at getting back in as Hermann Munster!!!
Okay, I'll tell ya

#1.  He is black.  Never mind he is only HALF black, there are plenty of people who won't vote for him because of the color or his skin but it isn't p.c. to say this so they p.c. and say they WILL vote for him.  When they close the curtain on the voting booth, I think they'll have a change of heart and punch the button for the one who is "like them."  Remember Palin said he wasn't "like us."


#2.  There have been so many smears against him I really believe that many people who don't care enough to investigate for themselves, just believe it "like sheeple" and so they go down the garden path.


#3.  I think there are a lot of people who forget that John McCain is only one of many service men and women who have served their country.  He is no more or less honorable than any of them but McCain keeps railing on "I served my country and I have the scars to prove it." and then whining that "all I ever wanted to be is a Navy pilot."  So at the end I think a lot of people will feel if they don't vote for him they will somehow dishonor "his" service to our country.


The reason I don't think the Republicans will stand a chance is that after 8 years of Bush/Cheney and 4 more years of McCain/Palin, people will vote for anyone but....and maybe that's a good time for an independent with REAL values and REAL promise of change to show up.


Now, if I'm wrong, boil up the crow, I'll be here to eat it.  LOL


I'll say it again
As a Jew, I don't believe there is a soul until the first breath is taken.

But, regardless of what I believe, I don't expect everyone to agree with me. It is clear what you believe and that is fine with me. I would never try to change it. I expect the same courtesy, that people allow me to believe as a Jew, as I was raised and studied, and not try to force your beliefs on me. I don't believe anyone should be forced into having an abortion, but I also don't believe anyone should be kept from having one either.
Again, I'll say it
My husband is there. No, we did not buy the ticket. Yes, he joined BEFORE the war, but he joined the military. It is silly to think that you can join a military and never expect to go to a war. Of course that is where the military sent them. This is their job. They chose their field and most of them support it.