Another thing. And call me naive (sp), but sm
Posted By: Not a racist on 2008-02-21
In Reply to: One phrase cracked me up in your post - sm - NottaLotta
I think there is a big difference in liberal and Democrat. I mean, what happened to the Democrats of long ago? In my neighborhood I have a wonderful old-lady friend who is in her 80s who is the most godliest woman I know. She is just amazing. She said she was born a Democrat and will die a Democrat. A lot of her friends are the same age and they vote Democrat because they are still living ithe days of Kennedy and the "good ole Democrats." You know, the Zell Miller type of Democrat.
I think that liberalism is an extreme sect all on its own. I don't view my neighbor as liberal at all, in fact more conservative if anything, yet she votes Democrat. These are the ones whom I believe are Christians and believe in God, but they are not liberals.
The liberals I knew were the Yale, Harvard or Brown University liberals which my Democratic friend is not.
In fact, if you ask my friend she is adamantly against abortion and homosexual marriage.
If the old Democratic party would return I would probably switch to that party, but you will never see me voting for the liberals who are in office today. Big difference. I think JFK is turning over in his grave over what has happened to his party.
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Are you really that naive? SM
Cindy Sheehan wants Bush to bring the troops home...NOW. Oh, I forgot, the left doesn't care about the people left behind. We know this how? Can you say Vietnam?
maybe they let the naive
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I am not naive enough to think that this is
just dems. I know that there are a lot of people in our government who have found this loophole and that loophole and aren't paying what they should either. I personally think it wouldn't hurt for all of them to undergo a little investigation just to see who is paying up and who isn't, but that won't happen.
I do have to admit that I get tired of dems wanting to raise taxes when it is the rich that always have loopholes to get out of paying taxes. All that does is hurt the middle class and the lower class.
I personally think that we should get rid of all of these silly deductions and have a flat tax. You made X amount this year and you pay X amount in taxes. No loopholes.....no nothing....that is it....PERIOD.
Not naive at all
but criminally calculating in his agenda to *remake* america in his own image. everything he does (especially where it appears he has not considered the consequences) is a move toward fulfilling this agenda.
he was not naive in releasing the initial memos on gitmo detainee interrogation. these made the previous administration and national security agencies look bad. his decision not to release further details came about because he now realizes how this would boomerang back on him as president, not out of national security concerns.
That comment is very naive. sm
Things are deleted from the Internet all the time. I've even done it, had posted once on a medical site, and went and deleted what I posted a year later....the link was still there, but nothing will link to it.
Obama campaign/backers/DNC have been practicing obfuscation on a daily basis.
Do you think it is just the dems? That is a little naive - nm
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I am always amazed at how naive some people are....s/m
He's doing this to enable his admistration, and Congress, the ability to take this country as far and hard to the left, and as fast as he possibly can.
He has a purpose, and it's not for the good welfare of our country.
It's to put our entire country "ON" welfare, and grow the government. This is a major takeover, and you're right about one thing.
He's as transparent as glass to the rest of us.
And we don't want what he's about to bring us to, to our knees with government control over every aspect of our lives.
At least I have the comfort of knowing I didn't vote for him.
They are this naive. That is the scariest part.
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Obama is criminally naive.
"Upholding our values will protect us from terrorism."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.bd0713f4765981d1edbe5b522ce08354.3e1&show_article=1
Hello? Wake up, you dipwad. It is precisely our values that terrorists hate.
Umm...and even if they didn't, please explain just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely (since we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office), just which of the numerous American values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event? Was it the mess on the dress perhaps? Or do ya think it might have been failing to get after bin Laden when he had the chance? Huh?
Your reasoning abilities are so pathetic that they amount to a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. He is utterly unfit to serve.
your view is naive, short-sighted and simplistic
I don't want to get caught up in a debate here. Americans can buy whatever they want. You are right. But then when your job is gone, don't complain about it because you fed the problem instead of solving it. If you don't support American companies, you are supporting some other economy instead of your own. How can the American economy ever survive if Americans do not support it? There is a bigger picture here, and I believe you are missing it. The failure of the automakers would affect every other business and service in this country, including ours, by a ripple effect. So when you lose your job because the number of hospital and physician visits is reduced since none of them has insurance anymore and no one can afford medical care anymore, remember what you said here. If they fail, we all will lose from it.
Obama is criminally naive. "Upholding our values
Umm...and just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely, we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office. So which of the numerous values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?
Pathetic reasoning - a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. Unfit to serve.
Obama is criminally naive. "Upholding our values
Umm...and just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely, we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office. So which of the numerous values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?
Pathetic reasoning - a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. He is utterly unfit to serve.
You lefties are so naive. Obama has plans for worse for our nation.
I throw it right back at you: Blind, in denial, naive, conservative pub...nm
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Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner. LOL....
GP, I like your sense of humor.
You call it hysteria, some call it concern for the
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Then call it what it is...or call for conservation...
but don't make up a myth to try to gain control. That is what Gore is after...what all the global warming hoohah is after. They have an agenda...pure and simple. And the base fact is that a very low percentage of the greenhouse gas effect is from cars. Every time you breathe out, you contribute. Are we all going to stop breathing? Are cows going to stop belching? I have no problem with ethanol...I have used it. My husband is from Iowa...I would love it if we started using ethanol more extensively. But in previous years, Democrats (Hillary being a primary one) opposed the use of ethanol. I guess if I believed any of those people out there hawking global warming actually believed what they were saying it would be different...but I don't. The science is not there. As I said...if the real interest is conservation with the side benefit of less CO2...fine. Just say so. But as the article pointed out...if it is as bad as they say it is, you can't stop it anyway. It just does not make good sense to me.
Fine. Call if whatever you want to call it....
I will call it as I see it. I look at a totality of things. He has embraced black liberation theology which is racist and has Marxist tones for 20 years. There is no way the man went to that church for 20 years and did not know their doctrine. But, if you choose to believe that, again, fine. I do not. I believe he knows that theology backward and forward and believes it to his core. You don't have to. That is the wonderful thing about America. We can agree or disagree. On this we disagree.
Yes, I am feeling a pinch. But I don't think the government should take money from you and give it to me. I don't think they should take money from any private business and give it to me. If you think that is fair, fine. I don't. That is how socialism/Marxism takes hold. Historically it ends the same way. I don't want that for America. Perhaps you do...you want the pinch eased for you and if that means taking money from someone else that they earned, and giving it to you, who did not earn it, to you it is all good. To me it isn't.
He never has said who the $1000 checks are going to. I am thinking not every person in the whole US of A...so not only does he get to choose who he takes the money from, he gets to choose who to give it to. That would be another interesting piece of the puzzle. If he confirms to the Marxist view, it would be issuing checks to the "poor." And he gets to define who that is. You may be okay with that...me, not so much.
And by the way...have you ever researched an oil company profit margin? It is not as huge as Obama would like you to believe. But, again, he is counting on no one researching what he says. They hear free money and that's all they want to hear. Also, do you think oil companies don't employ people? You think it is one CEO at a desk in an office raking in billions? You don't think there are rank and file regular folks who work for oil companies? Whose jobs might be impacted by you and others wanting to take money away from their employers and doling it out to people who have not earned it? You think there is a chance they might have a problem with that?
I call, fax, and call again and I do campaign....
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But valuing over the price of a dollar is a right thing wing thing, so you are on the wrong board. n
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I never said it's a bad thing, it is a good thing....nm
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Try looking it up. To call something
untrue because you want it to me is truly blind. Just go to google and search for PNAC document. But you wont, because then you will have to admit your wrong and maybe actually put a few of your brain cells not already brainwashed into overuse.
I call them as I see them. NI
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I call them as I see them. NI
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I don't know how you can call it ...
respectful, because I don't see that it is any way respectful to the men and women in the war zone. But obviously their well being is not your primary concern. So be it. Protest away.
Effective? Effective in prolonging the war...yes. Effective in further endangering our men and women in the war zone...yes. Effective in boosting enemy morale? Yes. By all means. Get out there and be effective.
Exercise YOUR right as long as YOU feel it necessary. I think that says it all.
Have a good day.
DUH - call me an i-d-i-o-t
Okay, totally forgot about that. Boy, talk about feeling like an id!ot.
And guess I must have taken what he said wrong and not paid enough attention. Both of you said it was sincere, so I will believe you both.
call
yourself a saint, for all I care. How do you get your arm back there to pat yourself on the back? You are more sensitive than others. Thanks for letting us know. If you hadn't told us we might have missed it.
You need to call a tax guy/CPA or something
what this all means. You will not be getting a tax cut at all! You need to understand that.
Would never call you a Dem
I consider myself conservative, but have voted several times Dem. I just find it hard to believe that anyone could accept the hate coming from this man about how terrible this country is. Yes, there are problems, but villifying the government and calling the people in this country stupid - just beyond reason.
31K - 63K --is that what you call looking out for my
No doubt afraid of what you will see.....his vote to tax you even more.
I have not seen much in the way of what you call
racism EXCEPT from the supporters of O. Everytime someone makes a statement of why we shouldn't elect the O president, they are called a racist. So who's the fanatical ones?????
That's why they call it.......sm
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Call it whatever you want, but...(sm)
the fact is that he is actually doing something (as opposed to the party of NO and hip hop) that will actually help the economy. What's funny to me is that you guys seem to be terrified that he might actually manage to help someone who you would consider beneath you in the process. Yet another example of republican greed. Hey, maybe Steele can bust a few rhymes with that....
My name is Michael -- My game is to stifle -- We keep peons hungry -- And we keep all the money....Everybody in the house say Hey!...say Ho!
I will call it what I want
It's WELFARE!!!
Before you call me down,
that is loonies as the other perceives them to be.
Whatever you want to call it TS...
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What do you call...
you run of the mill wacko ANTI-life supporters? YOU MUST BE SO PROUD!!
Help, call Oprah. sm
There really is such a thing as a talking sphincter.
Well, call me what you want, but I wanted to know.
I say use God's name when you're speaking the truth. If it's truth point it out to me.
They don't call them CONservatives for nothing!
Con means to deceive or mislead. That's how they communicate, from Bush right on down to his peon worshippers. They deceive, lie, mislead, twist, manipulate. They do everything except speak the truth. This is a perfect example. You asked them above to see the post. You didn't get a response, did you?
Now they'll just continue to troll this board with more outrageous fictional tales conceived in their tiny little minds, all for the purpose of demeaning and attacking liberals.
It's really sad, irritating and definitely bothersome, but they are their own worst enemy because they are getting more and more out of control every day. In a way, I guess I will really be worried if it stops. If I no longer see those angry hateful posts here, I will fear that they finally snapped in real life and either hurt someone else or got hurt themselves. 
when did I call you bigot?
When, my misguided soul have I EVER CALLED YOU A BIGOT? Please show the post. If it is the post talking about the stench from anti war, then you did not use your handle and yes, I called whomever posted about dirty masses a bigot..I wish you could show me any other post..
Wake Up Call
Read this article closely:
Describing George W. Bush as the most stupid president in U.S. history, the Al Qaeda leader reached out to the Muslim world and said his group was winning faster than expected in Iraq.
The U.S. president's policy had enabled the militant group to achieve their goal of fighting more Americans, said the Al Qaeda leader.
We call the lame duck (Bush) not to hurry up in escaping the same way the defense minister did, he said, referring to the removal of Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary following the Democrats' victory in Midterm elections.
They are getting ready to leave, because they are no longer capable of staying, the Al Qaeda leader said.
Remain steadfast in the battlefield you coward, he called on the U.S president.
If this does not chill your blood, with all due respect, there is something terribly wrong. These people are focused on the destruction of the United States. They get their information from the New York Times and CNN, and they are heartened that the majority of this country who voted espouse the cut and run theory on Iraq. They seek to divide us from within and for the country to turn on the President (and they have done that successfully it would seem). They think (and it would appear that they are right in many cases) that the US as a whole has no stomach for the fight. In their eyes, we are weak and not willing to fight for what we believe in like they are, and in their eyes that makes us cowards. We are in a WAR, yes a WAR, like no other. And if you do not think us pulling out of Iraq prematurely will not fire the jihad you are very sadly mistaken. They will view it as a major victory and I shudder to think what will follow it. The very reason we have not had more major attacks on our soil, in my opinion, is that these people, with all their bluster, are afraid of George Bush and what he might do. They are afraid that if they pull something like that again Iraq might be a walk in the park and would mean even more American boots on the ground in places they don't want them. They just can't be sure of what the US might do under his leadership, and that is why they are biding their time. If we get a dovish adminstration, it could, and most likely would, get ugly real fast. All it will take is the first (and probably homegrown) jihadist to blow himself up in a mall somewhere and take several innocent American lives with him....and then it will be too late. It could happen, do not think for a moment it could not. They want dead Americans. They would prefer dead American citizens on our own ground. They prefer the cowardly fight. They do not prefer having to face our military. But they will, because they are dedicated to their belief, no matter how perverse it is, while all the time trying to get back on the playing field they prefer...cowardly suicide attacks. We will learn what Israel has had to live with for years, the hard way. Do you see where I am going with this? We NEED for them to remain afraid of what we might do if they start something like that. We need for them to respect our willingness to stand toe-to-toe for what we believe in. We need to demonstrate that we are willing to do so and not waver. We need to demonstrate a belief in our country and our way of life as strong as theirs is. We are already wavering as a country, and we need to suck it up and stand up straight again. It is time to wake up. We are not acting as the World police in Iraq. We are in a fight for our survival, the survival of a free country where we are not afraid to go into a mall or get in a car or go anywhere we wish without fear of suicide bombers, car bombs, being grabbed off the street and found without a head a week later. We do not need to join the hunker down and be quiet and maybe they will leave us alone club. That does not work. They are not going to leave us alone. No one is safe, for these people there is only one way....their way. They are not going to stop and go quietly away. That should be patently obvious. This is the most important issue that faces us. None of the rest of it will matter if we lose in Iraq. Take a moment to look at history, all the precursors of 9-11. Had we not gone into Iraq, and swept yet another incident under the rug (with Khobar Towers, the Cole, the Achille Lauro, Tanzania, Somalia, and on and on and on) there is no telling where we would be right now or what other awful things might have occurred. For those of you who cannot grasp that, who think that if we pull out of Iraq and pander to these people that everything will be all right....God help you. God help us all.
Wakeup Call
Great article and on target! It also should chill the blood of the get out of Iraq now crowd, because what this article describes is precisely what would happen. But, they have blinders on. Iran in control of Iraq's oil .... think on that for a minute. With their nuclear ambitions .... think on that for a minute, people. It is still hard for me to believe that we actually have leaders, members of our own Congress, who are ready and willing to turn our belly up to be ripped out by these fanatics. Sorry if that is graphic, but that is exactly what they want to do. How can anyone in their right mind support a party who would rather go after the man who had guts enough to fight for this country, than to go after the terrorists? If they would focus the hatred of George Bush and the energy trying to bring him down on terrorism instead we might be a lot closer to defeating them. How did their thinking get that screwed up? How did it become acceptable to screw over your fellow Americans, your own country, to have power? And how were they able to sell that garbage to a portion of the American people? I ask the question and I know the answer. Because a great portion of the American people have strayed from core values, moral stands, and the black and white of right and wrong to the gray area of appeasement and whatever makes ME feel good, to heck with what is best for the country. The REALLY sad part of it is that they are going to drag us all down with them. As I said in another post....as THEY sow, so shall WE all reap. It is heartbreaking. We cannot give up, however. We still have a mighty sword and that is prayer. And not to sit down nor shut up. God Bless!
Received a call for a
a political survey. I went Obama all the way. I love to respond to telephone surveys, but wish I knew who was gathering the data. They asked me if I was borned again.
I would not call her *great...* ....
she is racist and an anti-semite and another one of those persons who think nothing that has ever happened to them is their own fault. Maybe that is considered *great* in some quarters. Just keeping it honest.
Okay...call it a draw....
but those women were able to decide whether or not to put themselves in harm's way. A baby has no such choice. It is a completely helpless, defenseless child torn from a place of safety, cut to ribbons or have brain sucked out, thrown into a metal pan and burned. That is hideous beyond belief, and I cannot equate the two. One knows going in what could happen and chooses to do it anyway. The other is murdered in a Josef Mengele fashion, horrifically, with its right of life taken away by another. Sorry, I cannot equate the two, not in any way, shape, form or fashion.
We will agree to disagree.
I just call myself a mutt S/M
Instead of mutt or just plain old American, it wouldn't be so bad for me, just Irish-German-Cherokee Indian, American but think of my kids, who would be Irish-German-Cherokee Indian-English, Scotish-Polish-French Americans. Good golly ms. Molly.
There was not one candidate, let alone the presumed nominee in either party, that I can support. Obama scares the bejezers out of me and Hillary gave me the willies. The republicans are not an iota better either. I keep praying that as Lou Dobbs predicted last year, I think it was, that an independent would enter the race and win. I would vote for him. Whether he would hold up as a politician or not, I don't know. Maybe he would corruptify in the D.C. tradition but at least he would probably attempt to stand up for "we the people" at least for awhile. What are we AMERICANS thinking anyway to let our government tromp on us??? I write to our congressman/woman on a regular basis. What do I get? A form letter of course telling me why they are right and I am wrong. Never mind that the majority wants.
Actually he did call her the 'c' word
I will be voting for him. I think he's okay, better than the other choice at least. However, as unfortunate as it is he actually did call his wife the "c" word.
Nobody is perfect. We all say things we don't mean to say, but when the facts are there and it's on tape/video there no denying it.
As for his kids - I have no idea. I highly doubt he calls his daughter a bad word and I'm sure they (or she - I don't even know how many kids he has), but I'm sure they adore him. All girls love their daddies, and no father I know of says awful things or calls their daughters names.
Once again I see each side that hates the other candidate does make up stuff (both sides are guilty).
that's OK I call McCain
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I think this should be a wakeup call
i realize there are people who are struggling financially.. what i am suggesting is that maybe people should take a big look... and yes i'm sure there are exceptions... i have to wonder about these people who are losing their homes.... curious about what other debt they had going on that led to that.. how many credit cards did they have, etc.... how many vehicles are not paid for... ? that sort of thing. we have a bit of debt ourselves and will admit things have been tight for us too but the fact remains... had we made better choices about what we did with our money, maybe stick it in savings for a rainy day, without a doubt things would be not as tight for us at the moment... i lost a job myself and started with another making less money.... it is life and maybe when i was making more $$$, i should have made better choices..
i am not pointing my finger at anyone, just making an observation about how people so easily these days blame everyone else for their own choices...
Once again, did he personally call you
to say he would quit HIS job and be at home with the kids? Oh wait, I KNOW! The oldest pregnant one can watch ALL of them! Now, There is an idea! Furthermore, yes, you ARE bashing US, by saying we have a 1950's mentality, just because we want to ACTUALLY RAISE our OWN kids, instead of a DAY orphanage! What a concept? Raise your own kids! Dr. Laura people, you all should listen to her...
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