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No, your post didn't make it sound like you thought

Posted By: Kiki on 2008-09-18
In Reply to: OMG, I hope my post didn't look like I thought Obama did it - New Englander

he was responsible, I'm only imaging how it is going to somehow get back on him. It is a terrible thing to happen to anybody. Some people just need to step back and get a life. :)


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OMG, I hope my post didn't look like I thought Obama did it
I know he didn't. He's a very decent person and respectful and when something is wrong he'll say so (and will have words with his people if they cross the line). I wasn't sure who did it. The news said they were going to tell us who is responsible but they never did (go figure). I just think its a horrible thing to happen to anyone and DH and I were talking tonight about when did all the nasty things like this start happening. I'm sure 100 or so years ago it wasn't bad like this. I just think it's a horrible world when someone is running for an office and people think its okay to do this. How low will they go?
well, you make it sound like Obama is doing something wrong by being paid -
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Don't make it sound like pubs are making things up.
Yes, the Fairness Doctrine occasionally comes up, but who is it usually brought up by? Nancy Pelosi herself said late last year she wouldn't mind seeing the Fairness Doctrine brought back.

It's not just noise and it's not just imagination. We all know it most likely won't ever happen again, but don't be fooled that there aren't people in our own government that think it's a good idea.
That last sentence just didn't EVEN sound right! sm
And I think the missing sheep brains is the main thing in this picture.
I don't blame her for her opinion....didn't sound like a bash to me....sm
You, on the other hand, have turned into the biggest basher on the board lately. You must be proud.
If you thought oil companies make big profits...

Note these were 2005 figures....no telling what they are raking in now.  It is not about choice for Planned Parenthood.  It is about MONEY.


Planned Parenthood Reports Record Profits, Abortions Performed     


Received largest amount of taxpayer funding to date, nearly $273 million.







Planned Parenthood Federation of America released its 2004-2005 Annual Report on June 1, revealing a record income of $882 million and Planned Parenthood’s second-highest profit of $63 million. The organization also set a record number of abortions performed in one year¯255,015¯ and an all-time low in adoption referrals: 180 abortions were performed for every one woman referred to an adoption agency.


The organization is using these alarming numbers to promote their services and gain customers.


“Planned Parenthood will use any means or any claim to lure more customers and money,” said Wendy Wright, President of Concerned Women for America (CWA). “It insists that the morning-after pill will reduce abortions. Yet Planned Parenthood posts its highest number of abortions committed at the same time as its aggressive campaign promoting and selling the morning-after pill.”

On top of its $63 million profit, Planned Parenthood last year received its largest sum of state and federal taxpayer funding ever: $272.7 million, making Planned Parenthood the recipient of $3.9 billion of taxpayer money since 1987.

"During that time [Planned Parenthood] has surgically aborted more than 3.8 million babies in the womb. Just think of all the positive programs that could have benefited from our tax dollars had they not been wasted on such destructive efforts," said Jim Sedlak, the director of STOPP International, an organization specifically created to counter or “stop” Planned Parenthood, in a statement.

These funds, however, have not impeded any efforts for further government funding from the government.

“Planned Parenthood must assume that elected officials can't read a simple annual report,” said Sedlak in LifeNews.com, criticizing the organization for its perpetual “begging” for government funding despite its large profits. The organization’s greed may be because without the federal government to give them taxpayer dollars, the overall general public would not support them.

President Ronald Reagan in 1983, on the 10th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, wrote:


Our nationwide policy of abortion-on-demand through all nine months of pregnancy was neither voted for by our people nor enacted by our legislators-- not a single state had such unrestricted abortion before the Supreme Court decreed it to be national policy in 1973.

Planned Parenthood’s desperation is currently seen in South Dakota, where it is seeking support from Washington, D.C., to counter the abortion ban signed into law by Gov. Mike Rounds (R) on March 6. The law makes it a felony for doctors to perform an abortion, except in order to save the life of the mother, and it is the most extensive abortion ban since Roe v. Wade.


The Planned Parenthood Web site that serves Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota denounces the abortion ban, stating, “This unconstitutional law is too restrictive and does not reflect the values of most South Dakotans nor most Americans.”


Wendy Wright disagrees. “If the South Dakota ban did not reflect the views of South Dakotans, then Planned Parenthood could rely on those citizens to fund its attempt to overturn the law passed by the majority of its representatives and signed by the governor,” she said. “But never shy to demand money from taxpayers, corporations, customers or donors, its affiliate director crossed the country to pass the hat among Washington, D.C., elites.”

South Dakota has paved the way for other states to create similar measures. Operation Rescue reports that five other states, Indiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio and Kentucky, have introduced similar bans in their legislatures.

The Louisiana Senate just passed a conditional ban on abortion that would automatically be effective upon the overturning of Roe v. Wade or enactment of a constitutional amendment prohibiting abortion. The law makes exceptions to save the life of the mother or to prevent any permanent or critical injuries. Once the law is effective, those who perform abortions could be subject to up to 10 years in prison and be fined as much as $100,000.

Planned Parenthood is misguided to think that most people are ready and willing to combat current trends by states to ban abortion. Its eagerness in appealing to elected officials in Washington for continued taxpayer funding reveals Planned Parenthood’s inability to appeal to the American people for direct support.


“With Planned Parenthood’s record profits, it is funding a campaign to drum up opposition to abstinence programs and demand more government money,” said Wright. “Americans should use Planned Parenthood’s Annual Report to show government officials that as tax dollars given to Planned Parenthood have increased, so has its number of abortions.”


And here is something I did not know...check the quote below by Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood....red font.  I was appalled.


EDITORIAL: Planned Parenthood targets blacks



Monday, August 25, 2008



 

Abortion protesters call on politicians to reject donations from Planned Parenthood and other such groups.


Planned Parenthood, a self-styled "health care provider" and "informed educator" on women's sexual health, has been promoting abortion since its inception in 1916. This has had a devastating affect on America.


Since the 1973 Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade, which overturned most state and federal laws outlawing or restricting abortion, an estimated 48,6 million babies have been aborted, according to the National Right to Life Committee. In particular, blacks are disproportionately impacted by abortion. Is Planned Parenthood deliberately acting to reduce the black population? Is it practicing a form of eugenics?


According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit organization focused on sexual and reproductive health research, 13 percent of the U.S. population is black, but 37 percent of all abortions are performed on black women. More than 10 million black babies have been aborted since 1973. Black women are 4.8 times as likely as white women to have an abortion. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also indicates that one out of every five white pregnancies ends in abortion, whereas one out of every two black pregnancies ends in abortion.


In a July op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, former Bush speechwriter and current Journal columnist William McGurn, rightly called upon the NAACP to be more active in providing alternative organizations for pregnant black women - institutions that will support them rather than speedily eliminate the unborn. He cites the moving words of Alveda King, a niece of the Rev. Martin Luther King, who had two abortions and subsequently changed her perspective: "I remember when I was pregnant and considering a third abortion. I went to Daddy King [her grandfather]. He told me, 'that's a baby, not a blob of tissue.' Unfortunately, 14 million African-Americans are not here today because of legalized abortion. It's as if a plague swept through America's cities and towns and took one of every four of us."


Fortunately, Miss King and others - such as the Rev. Clenard Childress, founder of Black Genocide.org, Day Garner of the National Black Pro-Life Union and Levon Yuille of the National Black Pro-Life Caucus - are bringing attention to Planned Parenthood's deliberate focus on minority neighborhoods. One-third of all abortions performed by Planned Parenthood in 2007 were on blacks, and a majority of Planned Parenthood's clinics are in minority neighborhoods.


A recent video on YouTube showed a Planned Parenthood development director eagerly taking money specifically to be earmarked for the elimination of black children. One caller said he wanted to do this because there are "definitely too many black people in Ohio." And the receptionist simply said, "O.K." Similar incidents in seven other states have sparked a call for a congressional investigation of Planned Parenthood - and we concur.


Congress must also put an end to the $300 million in tax dollars given last year to Planned Parenthood - the nation's leading abortion provider. The phone calls were made by California pro-life advocates in order to test the theory that Planned Parenthood deliberately targets the black population.


Margaret Sanger, who founded what is now Planned Parenthood, wrote a letter in 1939 to Clarence Gamble, with whom she was partnering to promote birth control and abortions in the black community: "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."


In a protest outside a Planned Parenthood office in April, the Rev. Jesse Peterson, a conservative black minister from Los Angeles, told the crowd "before you go to bed tonight, more than 1,500 babies will be killed in a black woman's womb."


Planned Parenthood has also been accused of targeting other minority groups, including Hispanics, Asians and Native Americans. Approximately 30 percent of American women are nonwhite. However, acccording to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, 60 percent of all abortions performed annually are on African American, Hispanic and Asian women. A Hispanic baby, for example, is three times more likely to be aborted than a white baby. Abortion rates among Asian women are twice that of white women. Planned Parenthood insists it does not target nonwhites. Defenders of Planned Parenthood argue that the disproportionate rate of abortions among nonwhite women is due to the fact that white women have less "unintended pregnancies."


Abortion is a tragedy regardless of the ethnic or racial composition of the victim. But when a specific population is targeted for elimination, it is an abomination. Congress should stiffen its moral spine.


Verryyy interesting.


Actually, they didn't take everything, just what they thought they
they thought they were entitled to. After the outcry on what they removed, the Clintons returned several items.

A lot of this was based in truth, though, not urban legend as someone else states below your post.

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=004bMl
I thought you didn't believe in polls?
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You didn't say garbage, but I just thought
you were implying C-Span was garbage like some sites. Sorry if I misinterpreted it. I copied your part of the message in my message to you. To me, it sort of insinuated C-Span was garbage (my words, not yours).
I didn't make fun of anyone.

This issue is not funny.  It could be deadly for us all.  There are certain Christians who will defend Israel no matter what Israel does.  I think a legitimate question is why.  Jewish people obviously do not accept Jesus Christ as their savior.  So why do some Christians have such undying loyalty to these people?  Is it because they truly put them on a pedestal (again, if so, why?), or is it because of the real estate inhabited by Israel, which just happens to contain the holiest of cities?  Or is it because the Bible says they must not turn their back on Israel or they won't get into heaven?  Some of them are very excited about the prospect of the Rapture.  Coincidentally, these people also represent Bush's base.  Do they believe the Jews are worthy of heaven only if they convert to a certain form of Christianity?  And what happened to Pat Robertson's theme park plans in Israel, and why did it happen?  How does Jerry Fallwell feel about Jews' entrance into heaven?  And can't anyone else see how this could be interpreted as the Jewish religion being inferior to the views of certain Christians?


I personally feel the Jews are entitled to gain entrance to heaven as much as anyone else of any other religion is.  Why don't you?


These people don't represent all Christians, as Starcat pointed out in this thread.  I can't help but find it fascinating that when either Israel or the concept of loyalty to Israel is brought up, a nerve is struck, and attacks against posters asking the questions ensue, without any answers ever being provided to the questions that were asked.


This is not a religious forum, and religious comments really shouldn't be posted here.  Unfortunately, we have a President who has mixed religion and politics so intrinsically during his administration that they can't be separated now.


I have full respect for anyone's religious beliefs, and what they believe is none of my business, but if the entire world is about to end because its end was assisted by those of a certain religion to self-fulfill a prophecy they and the American President believe, then it becomes my business, as well as the business of every person in the world who may be harmed as a result of the religious beliefs of some - not all or even the majority in the world.


I apologize if you feel I made fun of anyone's religion.  That was not my goal.  I admit that sometimes my words don't come out right and what are questions may seem like confrontations.  I apologize for that.


teenager didn't make it.....you need to
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well duh - he didn't make a donation.
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Your time out didn't make you
Tax cuts/credits, progressive tax system and social programs aimed at creating opportunities are as American as apple pie. Those policies and initiatives can be found punctuating the pages of our country's history since the time of its inception.

Tax schemes that move the wealth of the masses upward toward an exclusive, elite power class (as in the now defunct Soviet Union), government ownership/takeover of banking and lending institutions and massive buy-outs of privately held properties (homes) such as John McCain proposes to "fix" the mortgage crisis smack of communism and are not exactly what you would call traditional American values. Got it?
I didn't make the way of salvation sm
but God through Jesus Christ his son did and that is what he says not what I say. That truly is a great God who has made a way for ALL, from the least to the vilest of sinners.

If you spend eternity with Ghandi who has not accepted Jesus, you will regret those words because you will spend an eternity in he**.
Hey, don't blame Libby, she didn't make it up.
That information is all over the blogs and they took it from the National Enquirer which, as you should know if you are paying attention, has long been thought to be a toy of the CIA.

AND, Laura Bush slipped up herself thinking she was off camera and made a comment about some event they were talking about, and said oh yes, that was the night we were ALL drinking! So it seems there may actually be some germ of truth in the story taken right from the horse's mouth.

But just shoot the messenger, eh!
She didn't make it up. In fact, it's not the first time

these domestic terrorists bought an abortion clinic.  Now, they "need a bigger office."


Operation Rescue president Troy Newman said that his group has discussed the idea of buying the tan, windowless clinic in east Wichita. He made the comment after the Tiller family announced that the clinic would be closed permanently.

"I would love to make an offer on that abortion clinic, and that's some of the discussion that we're having," Newman said in a telephone interview Tuesday from his group's headquarters in Wichita.

Tiller was shot May 31 while serving as an usher at his church. Scott Roeder, a 51-year-old Kansas City, Mo., resident, has been charged with first-degree murder and aggravated assault.

Tiller attorney Dan Monnat declined to discuss Newman's suggestion.
"I'm just not going to respond to every irreverent publicity stunt or comment by these extremists," Monnat said.

Newman's group bought another former abortion clinic in Wichita in 2006 for its headquarters, but he said the group needs to expand. "We need a bigger office," he said.


 
Balance at:  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/10/national/main5079658.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._5079658


Good post....truth doesn't always sound good
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There was no one cogent thought in that post. Not one. sm
blah blah blah HATE BUSH blah blah blah BURN IN HELL blah blah blah WARMONGER BUSH blah blah blah BUSH IS HITLER blah blah blah... That's all you ever say. You don't talk about Able Danger.  You don't talk about Islamic threat.  You don't talk about ANYTHING that is worthwhile.  You just spew hatred.  Reality Check was right.  There is no use in anyone coming here who does not hate Bush.  And I don't.  I don't support him 100%.  The fact is, a lot of conservatives have reservations about things like illegal immigrantion and the like.  But I never spoke of any sitting President the way you do.  And I certainly had an opportunity. I guess that's what separates us.  Hatred and lack of hatred.  In that case, I am glad to be in the latter group.  Have a nice hate-filled day. 
What's with the name-calling? I thought her post was quite sm
nice and you have to say "chicken little", all snotty. Uncalled for.
Just when I thought you couldn't post anything worse sm
you come up with another even worse screed.  It's bottomless.  They have ugly ugly children, she's a Stepford wife, and he is worse than satan.  And the terrorists are just really nice guys who need a hug, right?  Unbelieveable!
so, just like I thought, the original post was pointless!
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Can't make sense of your post.

Are you saying that the conservatives believe only videos portray the truth?  Then wouldn't the videotape of soldiers being interviewed for 60 MInutes also be the truth then?


Military Times is not a military newspaper and does not speak for servicemen?  Who does it cater to primarily if not the military?  Hairdressers??????  Medical transcriptionists????    Yes, it is privately owned and is a Gannett publication.  While their survey may not be the most scientific thing ever done it still has merit.  See below:


 A poll for the Military Times newspapers, which questioned 6,000 randomly selected active-duty members, gives us a much better sense. In case the myth that military personnel still widely support the president's policy hadn't been debunked enough, these results should do the trick.



Barely one in three service members approve of the way the president is handling the war, according to the new poll for the four papers (Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Times). In another startling finding, only 41% now feel it was the right idea to go to war in Iraq in the first place.

And the number who feel success there is likely has shrunk from 83% in 2004 to about 50% today. A surprising 13% say there should be no U.S. troops in Iraq at all. [...]


Nearly three-quarters of the respondents think today's military is stretched too thin to be effective.




As for the escalation, only 38% of those surveyed believe more troops should be sent to Iraq, while 39% think there should be the same number or less than there are now. (The rest said they didn't know.)


Wow. Doesn't this post make you want
your chair and rush down to the nearest GOP headquarters and sign up as a life-long loyalist? Hope there's a box on the form I can check to become affiliated with the furthest right fringe that they have to offer. What class. What style. What charisma. Oh, please, can I be just like you? I'm getting really tired of that sugary sweet Kool-Aid I've been guzzling and can hardly wait to take a healthy slug of that bitter acid foaming out of your mouth. Thanks for sharing.
I am not attacking you, therefore I can post here. In other words, make me. :) nm

didnt try to make this post political
Cronyism is wrong, both repblican and democrat..I re-read my post and no where did I make it political.  No matter if you are democrat or republican, cronyism is wrong..A person, especially being considered for a life time position, has to be judged on their merits, not on whom they know.
I agree excellent post! One that has to make one think.
I own Mississippi Burning. Good movie.
You make that judgment from one post on a board....
are we then to assume, because of Bill Clinton's antics, that all democrats are morally bankrupt?
Huh?? This post doesn't even make sense
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gee, I thought conservatives were supposed to post on their own board.....proves all you want sm

to do is fight with someone.  What possible reason could you have for being over here?  Obviously you are not creating dialogue or trading ideas....the only reason is to start something and then here come the insults.  Guidelines posted when they started these boards were to post on your own board. 


I do notice that conservatives post more on that board, but instead of discussing opinions and ideas and their reasons for them, all they do is bash the left. 


 


 


Washington Post: Commission admits they thought they were being deceived.sm

After C Span aired the 911 Scholars Symposium in LA for 3 days, the questions and information has started to flow.  Looks like some are starting to do some CYA.  There are articles in the NYT, Vanity Fair, and even the Washington Post.  For a change, they are not calling skeptics names.  It is only a baby step, but this has made my day. 


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300.html?sub=new


While the "poo" is flying, let's note I did not make my post about whether...sm
I agreed with the stimulus package, because if you read further back on this board, I have been stating my opposition clearly for weeks, and just what I have problems with! This post was about a thinly-veiled, very inflammatory, crude, demeaning, hurtful "comic," and not just for the President, many African-Americans were hurt by this, and wrong is wrong, I am keeping my post specifically to this one point, I am sick of "pubs" or anyone else clouding issues by dragging other irrelevant issues in. The Post really demeaned themselves by publishing this, and they know it!!
Do I need some kind of motive to post what I thought was a good read..and your point is..
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I guess I didn't take B's post that way. SM
I use God as a comparison when I am really trying to make a point. I think that is what was going on, but only B can answer that.  At any rate, I agree with B.
Perhaps you didn't READ my post
I said -- keep it the hell out of politics.
You're welcome to claim whomever you'd like as your Saviour in the privacy of your own home and the community of your own church.
Brunson didn't post that. someone else did.
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You didn't read my post
I was referring to people I talk to, as I stated.   I don't generally talk to Churchill or Chomsky.  In fact, I don't even pay much attention to them, nor should you.  Just as I don't pay much if any attention to crazy right-wingers.  Just common sense.
FYI--I didn't post the comment above this.sm
I think this was a mistake. Is this you Observer?

P.S. If there is another person posting with the Democrat moniker let me know and I will change mines.
I didn't post this.....someone used my initials...sm
x nice try.
Why didn' you post a message?
I'm not sure why you wrote Henry Kissinger but then didn't write anything. If Obama can come up with when Henry Kissinger said that to him I will take back my original post. All I'm saying is Kissinger was interviewed and he said he never said it. You should take him at his word. If Obama says something I believe him. Maybe Obama really believed Kissinger said this.

Obama says he cares about the people. He cares that people needs jobs, decent healthcare, and not to lose their homes. He said he is going to work towards getting this fixed. I believe him.
link didn't post
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/09/30/palin_pity/
You didn't address your post
to Christians exclusively. If that was what you wanted, maybe you should take it over to the faith board, will everyone will gush and agree with you.
It didn't post for some reason; will try again

Very Good for Today: cartoon from 50 yrs ago "Count your Isms"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY


Does anyone else have this happen as well?  It says it posted successfully, & doesn't show up.  Just curious.


Thanks!


 


Why didn't you post this yesterday?
Or the day before? Didn't feel the love until Obama got elected?
Actually, you didn't read the post then
Didn't say she was a liar. There is a difference with calling someone a liar and saying you don't believe them.

She over did it with the drama. Sure maybe she donated to charities on her own, but all the drama about contributing to the greater care, organizing for charity, painted and nailing carpeting in "poverty stricken homes" as her "gift to her children" oh yes, all while she didn't have a pot to you know what in, all while making only 5.30 an hour. And on top of all that she moved in with her parents to take care of her dying father while herself working full-time as a supervisor several states away (wow what a commute each day that must have been). On and on an on an on. Could it have happened? Sure anything could happen. Do I believe it personally? Not in my lifetime. But that's not saying it didn't happen. Just sounds like she should be awarded the model citizen of the century award.

BTW - there is a clear difference between saying you don't believe someone and them attacking you personally.

So I'd boo-hoo on yourself.
Guess you didn't see the post I did below

showing that Bush tried to regulate the industry as far back as 2001, but the dems would have none of it....those most opposed were all on the "take"; i.e., getting thousands of dollars in contributions from FM/FM.....or don't you believe it even when it comes from their own mouths?


Open your eyes and listen, or do you need a hearing test?


you really didn't need to post describing yourself
we had enough of you yesterday. Sometimes it's best to leave things alone and not comment at all.
Sorry, the link didn't post.....
In a nutshell, Hawaii has passed "Islam Day" law....

Where is their "Christianity Day"?

Where's the loud mouth ACLU on this?

This country is heading to he!! in a handbasket!


You obviously didn't really read her post...what's happened
You used to be a pretty straightforward poster even though we were often at odds.  Now you seem nasty.
I didn't really have an intention. That post just caught my eye. nm

You didn't respond to Yepper's post.

I don't feel the need to make the choice. It's a child, not a choice. n/t


Ooops, I just reposted this. I didn't see your post. sm
Cutting Medicaid and student loans but has hundreds of billions while throwing hundreds of billions at Iraq.