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Obama is th perfect storm for socialism.....

Posted By: wake up people............sm on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Do not fall for this hysteria... we all need calm heads - MAX

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The Perfect Storm. SM
America Will Reject the Race Exploiting Demagogues of the New Orleans Tragedy

by Keith Thompson 

Saturday 10 September 2005, 6:35 pm


MSNBC ran a ticker headline Friday identifying dead bodies, debris, human waste and chemicals as prominent contents of the toxic flood waters. It’s no surprise, and curiously fitting, that the national media all week has been awash with the cultural equivalent: noxious, vile proclamations by the America’s foremost moral pretenders, atrocity addicts, all-purpose grifters and incendiary race hustlers: Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, and Maxine Waters — with auditions from aspiring race-mongering demagogues Kanye West and Michael Eric Dyson.


Each of these self-congratulatory progressive activists has labored to exploit the New Orleans catastrophe as an onslaught against black America. Collectively they possess moral authority equivalent to the two scammers who used an amputated finger in an attempted shakedown of Wendys. Let’s be clear about the lineage these bottom feeders are part of. The opportunistic race-based ghouls who have made New Orleans their haunt are not different from David Duke, in either kind or degree. The activists now working overtime to incite race hatred — doing so in the name of “justice” and “civil rights” — deserve the same accolades and mantles as the klansmen who terrorized blacks, Jews, Catholics, and white civil rights workers in another decade.


Like the vulgar, hate-driven white racists who read aloud from Bibles in church the morning after lynching, burning and raping, these morally bankrupt representatives of today’s civil rights elite represent the last gasp of a morally unregenerate worldview. And like the Klan of yore, they (and their enablers Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Richard Cohen, and Hillary Clinton) grow more desperate and deranged as the moderate American mainstream rejects their quest to rip open the nation’s past racial wounds for temporary partisan advantage.


Efforts to turn New Orleans into the cultural equivalent of Rwanda are repugnant to everything about America than makes moral sense. Lincoln spoke of the better angels of human nature, implying the existence of something very much worse. Every schoolboy knows the proper counterpart is demon. The moral scammers now inciting race hatred in the wake of the Louisiana nightmare will fail. And the movement they represent will ultimately fail, because it is more than wrong or simply false, it is cancerously self-canceling. The body politic will cast off this disease and will do so to preserve its well being, vitality, and wholeness.


But the end of this fight is not near. The mainstream media is highlighting the preposterous claims of America’s hate apostles because the MSM sees an opportunity not simply to negate the past two presidential elections, but to reverse the general trend away from the cultural corrections (anti-welfare state, pro-national defense) that Reagan’s 1980 victory represented. The American left has been licking its chops for years, hoping for the political equivalent of a perfect storm: the ideal convergence of forces that would yield a return to normalcy for expanding the gutter of identity politics and apologizing to the world at large for everything American. The left longs for a return of Carter’s malaise because that will reinforce the left’s longstanding antagonism toward the resurgence of personal responsibility and national pride since 9-11.


The unconscionable quest to exploit the human misery of New Orleans sickens me more than I can say. I was with my family at a Florida hospice, attending to my mother as she lay dying from cancer, when Katrina came ashore, wreaking human and physical loss only miles away. We were all aware that our personal loss would be shared by many hurricane victims, and that the American people would do what we always do: rally to help the wounded, the sick, and the bereaved. It never occurred to us — not even remotely — on August 25, the day mom passed away, that leaders of this nation’s so-called progressive community would even consider using a natural tragedy as an occasion to further their now familiar By Any Means Necessary campaign against this country and its traditions.


Then again, neither did I expect that there would be 250 demonstrations on American campuses against the United States responding militarily to the September 11 attacks, as David Horowitz has so aptly described. Naïvete dies hard, but there’s a positive side. It’s extremely hard to resuscitate.


Why doesn't Obama come clean about socialism?
And if you wanted to know what McCain wants to do for the country you could go to his website and read it if you have room in your brain for anything not Barack Obama.
If Obama plan is socialism then it was just voted in.
Got it?
Yep, and Obama's plans constitute socialism
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Well if we storm in better do it before the new CD sm
is implemented or we'd be arrested.
Why not? He can't stop the storm.
The individual people did not prepare. They are the only ones accountable. The national guard and disaster medical assistant teams are always staged close by. It was so weird after Katrina listening to the politicans and leaders criticize FEMA because FEMA already does so much. FL has had soo many storms and FEMA was never criticized like it was with Katrina! It's just the opposite they are happy when they hear it was made a federal disaster becuase they know FEMA will help.

The government can't make people use their brains and store water, grandola bars and life jackets.
If people ignore warnings they are to blame. What is very sad is for the elderly and disabled. If healthy able bodied people don't take care of themself they obviously are not checking on their elderly family and friends who are the most vulnerable.

The government has things set up like the NHC and the AF hunters to provide us warnings.

Katrina was hurricane during hurricane season in a city by the Gulf. They acted like the people in a hostage situation with no warning.

I think the RNC should go on with occasional references to prayers and good wishes to those in the storms path. LOL it will give us something to listen to on the radio. :) There is so much waiting waiting waiting it would be nice to listen to.

There isn't anything anyone can do anyone, once the storm starts. When it's over unless Bush is going to drive a clean up truck to help clear the roads so the utility crews can start working there is no reason for him no be here immediately. I am sure he is not experienced with that and would injure himself. The best thing anyone can do is stay home immediately after the storm and let the roads clear. Then Home Depot can open and the National Guard will set up water and MRE stops. If Bush showed up four or five days later that would be nice for moral. He should address the people listening on the radio during and after the storms just to give encouragement.

When do the storm troopers show up

with flame throwers to torch my garden?  Will I be able to harvest anything this year?   Next spring, maybe if I plant a screen of marijuana plants around the vegetables, that will disguise them as something no longer regulated.   Probably home-preserved food will be verboten; I imagine if I want Mason jars or a dehydrator, I'd better get them now? 


BTW, anyone wanting a good doomsday book (how to survive when it all goes to hades in a handbasket)  should read Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven.  Usually it's in the sci-fi section but it really is more speculative fiction about what happens when an unbelievable natural disaster (about which nobody heeds the warnings) hits the planet.  I think O might qualify in the natural disaster category. 


Storm track is not the only news needed.
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And to go a bit further into history, Daddy Bush had to do Desert Storm.....sm
"for the freedom of the Kuwaiti people", even though the average Kuwaiti at the time was far more prosperous than the average American, we were shown the peasants on the borders. Ethnic cleansing goes on for generations on the African continent, but do we rush in there to save the people. Nope. We don't have oil, or any other money-making interests there! Guess where the Bush family got most of their wealth....Bingo, oil wells! Now, let's connect the dots on this. Osama Bin Ladin himself (may he rot in he!!) said in many interviews and videos that the Jihaad started the moment Daddy Bush did not heed the warning and stay out of the Muslim desert. We went, and THAT is what started all the POINTED ATTACKS on Americans. So if you really want to trace things back, it goes back to Bush, the first one! JMHO. And oh, just what was it we accomplished with Desert Storm besides securing those Kuwaiti oil fields????
E-mail, memos detail Katrina’s political storm

see link


Here is a perfect example. sm
You might want to step back, take a deep breath and ask yourself why one simple question *why did you post this*, would bring on such a tirade from you. It was a question. That was all it was. 
Perfect....
The world (in my opinion) would be a better place if people didn't take themselves so seriously.

Great statement, TT! Says it all.
I am not saying that he is perfect -
I never said anything about transparency - I am saying that even when I read the articles you all are quoting it never says that Obama lied about anything.

Maybe his aides misspoke, maybe Bush's aides misspoke, I don't know - but you all are calling Obama a liar and I just don't see where he lied.

At the same time, I don't think that telling what he and President Bush talked about is really all that bad a thing - yes, I really would like some transparency in knowing what is going on in my country - they are both elected officials and in fact are answerable to "we the people". I don't think any sensitive information was leaked out concerning our enemies - I think what we read was about our economy, which at this point we are all concerned about and should have as much information as possible.

Now for the part about admitting that he is wrong, if he is wrong or does something bad, I will be the first to stand up and say it, and I will be the first to admit I was wrong in supporting him, but at this point, I do not see anything he has done wrong.
This is a perfect example....(sm)

of why dems are so critical of the right.  You just throw stuff out there that has no basis.  Given that I have looked at all available text that would fall into the category you speak of and have found nothing to back up your claim, the fact that Obama typically meticulously chooses his words before he says them, and your obvious unwillingness or inability to provide some kind of documentation to support your claim, I have to come to the conclusion that what you have said is false.  If this is incorrect, then by all means, please feel free to prove me wrong.


The dems were just recently accused of character assassination after stating facts.  And then here you come along with this garbage, which is basically the same thing that has been done by the pubs since before the election.  At least you're consistent.


That is a perfect example of
how helping people sometimes isn't helping.....it is enabling them to continue mooching.  This is what the current administration fails to understand. 
Never said he was perfect...
just said he wasn't a socialist! Where do air traffic controllers come in?
Yes, that was so right on .... so perfect.
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How perfect.. thanks.
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perfect
" . . .no obligation to think logically, represent facts accurately or to be an honest broker in the public arena of ideas."  Thank you for that perfect description of Fox News. 

PERFECT!!!
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Here's a perfect example, Suzie:

American Girl: Yawwnnn.... you're boring me to death....


Nameless Troll: By all means.... RIP.


MT: See, THAT'S what I am talkin' about! SM boring and lame! I am telling you, you are lame girl.


American Girl: Did they just wish me dead? ....RIP is a term usually reserved for the dead, right?


They degenerate debate to name calling, calling us evil, and then wishing us dead....all the while preaching to us about how evil and intolerant we are....the irony is bewildering but not unexpected.



MT: Don't forget when they told Nan she was old and would die soon SM and wished for her to burn in hell. That was an especial highlight of the nature of how they "never" say anything hateful.


(No name, but I admit it was me, completely frustrated and having sunk to their level): I know it's difficult but close your eyes and try to FOCUS for a second or two. Take a deep breath. You can do it. The poster was directly responding in kind to YOUR post in which YOU wrote: you're boring me to death.... Now feel free to twist and mangle that any way that makes you look like poor little AG who is always picked on, but YOU are the one who started this. The person was wishing you a peaceful trip while on the destination YOU indicated you were headed.


American Girl: Admit it though... you still wished me dead....


Nameless Troll: Not true. I don't wish anyone dead. I don't harbor that kind of hatred inside me. Sorry to bust your bubble.


Nan: They'll never admit it. sm It has to be your imagination.


These were just a FEW in an entire thread of insults (including one from Nan calling the person a slimy bottom dweller.) Not ONE post in this entire thread added anything of intelligence to any debate (including my own).


Does anyone reading this SERIOUSLY think the poster wished AG dead? When I read it, I see it as a very sarcastic response to a very sarcastic post. I believe it’s shortly after this point in time (when those three were getting exactly what they gave, after repeated threats and "chances" and "strikes" by them to the poster or else they would tell the Monitor) that they all three posted that they wouldn’t be coming back here any more. Those posts are gone now, and as we can see, one of them is already denying ever saying she was leaving. (To those of you who actually did read these posts and know they were there, please continue to rely on the accuracy of your memory because it’s correct.)


Now, when the day comes that AG recalls someone on this board "wishing her dead," are you going to believe that that is what the person REALLY wished, given the entire context of these posts?


Your post is a perfect example.
I believe this is what Delighted was referring to.  You are not discussing anything, merely demeaning all liberals.  It grows tiresome.  There is little to no debate generally, and postings are merely a platform to demean liberals on this, the liberal board.
Perfect example of why Dems will win and be in the
Republicans thrive on scare tactics - or at least they THINK they're scare tactics. 
The Perfect Stranger
The Perfect Stranger


By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, August 29, 2008;

Barack Obama is an immensely talented man whose talents have been largely devoted to crafting, and chronicling, his own life. Not things. Not ideas. Not institutions. But himself.

Nothing wrong or even terribly odd about that, except that he is laying claim to the job of crafting the coming history of the United States. A leap of such audacity is odd. The air of unease at the Democratic convention this week was not just a result of the Clinton psychodrama. The deeper anxiety was that the party was nominating a man of many gifts but precious few accomplishments -- bearing even fewer witnesses.

When John Kerry was introduced at his convention four years ago, an honor guard of a dozen mates from his Vietnam days surrounded him on the podium attesting to his character and readiness to lead. Such personal testimonials are the norm. The roster of fellow soldiers or fellow senators who could from personal experience vouch for John McCain is rather long. At a less partisan date in the calendar, that roster might even include Democrats Russ Feingold and Edward Kennedy, with whom John McCain has worked to fashion important legislation.
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Eerily missing at the Democratic convention this year were people of stature who were seriously involved at some point in Obama's life standing up to say: I know Barack Obama. I've been with Barack Obama. We've toiled/endured together. You can trust him. I do.

Hillary Clinton could have said something like that. She and Obama had, after all, engaged in a historic, utterly compelling contest for the nomination. During her convention speech, you kept waiting for her to offer just one line of testimony: I have come to know this man, to admire this man, to see his character, his courage, his wisdom, his judgment. Whatever. Anything.

Instead, nothing. She of course endorsed him. But the endorsement was entirely programmatic: We're all Democrats. He's a Democrat. He believes what you believe. So we must elect him -- I am currently unavailable -- to get Democratic things done. God bless America.

Clinton's withholding the "I've come to know this man" was vindictive and supremely self-serving -- but jarring, too, because you realize that if she didn't do it, no one else would. Not because of any inherent deficiency in Obama's character. But simply as a reflection of a young life with a biography remarkably thin by the standard of presidential candidates.

Who was there to speak about the real Barack Obama? His wife. She could tell you about Barack the father, the husband, the family man in a winning and perfectly sincere way. But that takes you only so far. It doesn't take you to the public man, the national leader.

Who is to testify to that? Hillary's husband on night three did aver that Obama is "ready to lead." However, he offered not a shred of evidence, let alone personal experience with Obama. And although he pulled it off charmingly, everyone knew that, having been suggesting precisely the opposite for months, he meant not a word of it.

Obama's vice presidential selection, Joe Biden, naturally advertised his patron's virtues, such as the fact that he had "reached across party lines to . . . keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists." But securing loose nukes is as bipartisan as motherhood and as uncontroversial as apple pie. The measure was so minimal that it passed by voice vote and received near zero media coverage.

Thought experiment. Assume John McCain had retired from politics. Would he have testified to Obama's political courage in reaching across the aisle to work with him on ethics reform, a collaboration Obama boasted about in the Saddleback debate? "In fact," reports the Annenberg Political Fact Check, "the two worked together for barely a week, after which McCain accused Obama of 'partisan posturing' " -- and launched a volcanic missive charging him with double-cross.

So where are the colleagues? The buddies? The political or spiritual soul mates? His most important spiritual adviser and mentor was Jeremiah Wright. But he's out. Then there's William Ayers, with whom he served on a board. He's out. Where are the others?

The oddity of this convention is that its central figure is the ultimate self-made man, a dazzling mysterious Gatsby. The palpable apprehension is that the anointed is a stranger -- a deeply engaging, elegant, brilliant stranger with whom the Democrats had a torrid affair. Having slowly woken up, they see the ring and wonder who exactly they married last night.
Yes - and then it would be a perfect world
Yeeee-haaaaaa
These are perfect!! Thanks for the shot . .
of reality . . . well, reality to most of us, anyway. 
Now there's a perfect example of true

I think it is a perfect analogy.
I'm sorry you feel like you wasted your time reading my post but grades are earned just like incomes are earned.  To take away from one to give to another is just absurd, discouraging, and not fair at all to the people who worked hard to achieve their incomes or grades.  It encourages people to not work as hard because they are penalized for making more and it will encourage more people not to work because they will get a check from the government supporting them anyway...so why bother.
Sure, because NOTHING in this world is perfect...nm
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Right, we understand, you are perfect,
doubt anything you print here, and most certainly, if anyone disagrees with any of your opinions we are spiteful and impulsive hens, pathetic and hilarious. And those are just a few mild descriptive terms from this one post you have. I am so sorry you had to stoop to the level we did and become a mere MT at some point in your life. Maybe some day you will find something of substance and reality in your life and realize what it is all about, however, I will not hold my breath!

Now, as my 2-year-old granddaughter says when she finishes her meal, I'm done.
P.S. Who decided he was the perfect one

to run for president anyhow? There were candidate s much more qualified than O that could have run away with the votes if they were "chosen" by the party...but they chose someone who was only a senator for what, less than 2 years? Why? I would love to know how the party choses their candidates to run for president. Something doesn't smell right here.


 


Thanks for posting this. Perfect!
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Such a perfect post... Thank you.
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Okay, maybe this would be the perfect time
for that explanation of irony?  Nah, never mind. 
Perfect solution........... sm
Send the illegals back to their home countries with a politician under each arm!

I agree that amnesty is a bad idea. With the millions upon millios we now spend for healthcare, housing, and other benefits for illegals, the rising tide of illegals that will likely come with this amnesty will only dig us all further into debt. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting a little tired of paying taxes to cover illegals' medical bills and pay for their food when I can't afford insurance for myself and have to scrimp on the food bill because there just is not enough money to go around after I pay taxes.
Jon always has the perfect perspective . . .

Hey Fox!! Paranoia will destroy 'ya!!  TEE HEE!! 


fighting for a perfect
Move to Pakistan and fight the Taliban.
Oh, that makes perfect sense.

They're simply not the *right* EC (evangelically correct) Christians.


Did you by chance see the Barbara Walters special last night on heaven?  I watched part of it, but I also taped it. 


The two religions that stuck out like a sore thumb were the *born again* Christians and the *jihad Muslims*.  They were the two groups who felt that everyone who didn't believe exactly as they do are doomed to go to hell.


So the fact that Catholics are targeted makes perfect sense to me and is in line with the Bush & Co. MO.


But while you are awaiting the perfect bill
This bill plans to use taxes from cigarettes to pay for it, and if it uses tax dollars in other areas that is fine with me too.  On some issues you have to compromise, and when it comes to children's health and saving lives, this is one of those times.  Children need coverage.  You say you want them covered too - well, this bill is a great step in that direction.  Why wait 5 more years for a bill that EVERYONE agrees on?  Who knows how many kids will die due to lack of healthcare in that time.  Can you live with their little lives on your conscience?  I can't.
All is in divine and perfect order
Another stabilizing force is Barack Obama. He will be poised and positioned perfectly to bring the entire planet together, there-by creating yet another grid of unity that will serve to stabilize things as much as possible during the fall. We will connect and support each other through his divine and highly evolved leadership. All, as always, is in divine and perfect order.
That makes perfect sense. not. lol. nm
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I think it makes perfect sense.

They are both getting their victims to do what they want them to do with a promise neither of them will keep. 


Sounds like the perfect politician to me -- too bad

I will not be a perfect president, but I will always tell you the truth
If he just does that one thing and tries his best, we will have struck gold. The rest is gravy.
As in Happy Days are here again? Perfect.
http://www.squidoo.com/proms-formals
Great selection of party dresses. My personal favorite, the asymmetrical black sheath, squared sleeveless yoke on right side, sleeveless on the left.

www.stylehive.com
A red taffeta number with a full skirt and petticoats, no doubt.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fiftiesweb.com/fashion/album/50s%2520Evening/slides/evening-1-57.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fiftiesweb.com/fashion/album/50s%2520Evening/slides/evening-1-57.html&usg=__7I7bEFhO4P5kLMnZNONb98pwCtE=&h=541&w=300&sz=13&hl=en&start=517&tbnid=HwgZUfplaQKUPM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=73&prev=/images%3Fq%3Devening%2Bfashion%2B1950s%26start%3D500%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
This frock is to die for...white body-hugging deep-V halter sheath with what looks like fake white fox along the slightly-above the ankle hemline, essentially bling-less, save the drop earrings so as not to upstage the 3/4-length above the elbow evening gloves. It's crying out for stiletto heels, but actual ambulation might prove to be a bit hazardous. Va-Va-voom.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a280/aimtx/aax.jpg
Lest we forget the fashion statement of the decade...the Marilyn Monroe blow skirt. No need to fuss with much in the way of undergarments.

http://www.vickisnylons.com/BBra/bbra.htm
Speaking of undergarments, don't forget every 50s gal's essentials: Waist-high nylon panties, a snappy sliding garter belt, thigh-high seamed nylons and one of those cool padded pointy bullet bras.

PAAARRRRTEEEE.........

I didn't say it was a perfect solution....... sm
just a solution and as with any solution there are exceptions. The elderly by and large are eligible for this program provided their income falls within a certain limit, as are prenant or nursing women, postpartum women up to a certain point, children under the age of 6, among others. This program is already in place, so what might be more appropriate is to save the food stamp program for the disabled, the low-income working class and the elderly and revamp the screening process for food stamps that would weed out those who currently abuse the system because it is easier to get a hand out than a hand up. Maybe even make job retraining programs a stipulation of receiving food stamps and make food stamps work in conjunction with the commodities program in certain instances.

Here is a link to the commodities program. There is a page listing the foods available now and it does appear that there is more variety than before, but still limited to basic nutritional foods.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/fdd/
Amen! perfect... nuff said.
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You have outlined a perfect example why we were beat in November. sm
People are tired of the dirty fighting.  If you want to fight, don't act like a bunch of 3 year olds on a chat board.  Namecalling and wishing people ill is not going to win you anything but disdain.  I certainly don't want you representing me on the left.  Do you know what they are talking about on the conservative board?  Current affairs and dying war heroes.  In other words, SUBSTANTIAL stuff.  How about trying that here for a change instead of the totally ridiculous Google searches.  My God.
This is a perfect example of what I would point out as a stereotypical, mean-spirited
post, full of generalizations and just plain hatefulness. Yet above posting scripture. I am not sure how one reconciles that.  Don't bother answering.  I won't be around ot see it.  I feel sorry for you.
"The Living Dead" Yes, perfect!
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Perfect definition! I'm standing up & cheering...
In applause. Excellent.