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Please remember this is the liberal board and try to respect that.

Posted By: Tired of this on 2005-08-30
In Reply to: This is worse than sad. This is delusional. - nt

It's the liberal board and it's for liberal discussion topics.  If you want to change that you need to contact the administrator.  Please don't bash.


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the conservative board is a liberal board now
you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred.   It's not something I'd very proud of.
Kindly have respect for those on the board
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Me too, I respect what you bring to the board - see message
I've been on this board probably for a couple months or so and I've seen your posts and I enjoy the articles you post and reading your opinions. I too get very tired of posting something and then getting bashed for it. A week or so ago I had made a determination to not post anymore because I was so tired of being bashed and being called a racist because I was not voting for the O. I too would like to have posters stick to issues and not bash. Post information and read it for what it's worth. If you don't like it move on. Thanks to other posters who asked me to stay on I have decided to because we all have the same rights. I'm with you though...stick to articles, information, and issues and let the bashing go.

Just wanted you to know I respect you and hope you'll keep posting.
get off the liberal board
Why must you conservatives continue to post here?  We dont want you or your ideology posted here..Bush is to fault, for gosh sakes, he even admitted it..in his pea brain he kind of realizes he was wrong in his response..
get off the liberal board
Can you not read English?  Get off the liberal board, fool..bye bye..get out of here..
So you expect politics to be *pleasant*. I can remember on the other board SM
two of the regular posters leaving and you and your friends celebrating on the board.  Ding Dong the witch is dead. Stuff like that. Immature, but that's typical. Still, you celebrated.  They left because you HOUNDED THEM OFF.  You were relentless in posting multiple times to their every post, no matter what it was about.  They said they left for the good of the board. You are leaving because you can't take the heat. Big HUGE difference.  If you can't and won't have the strength of your convictions, then what good are you.  Thank God our Lord Jesus Christ had more backbone. 
thought this was the liberal board
you know, the stench of all stenches!  you don't have to read anything here, especially if it gugs ya!  Sorry.  But I don't feel about "shrub" the same as you.  So what does that make you?  Better than everybody else?  Okay then you put up with him, but I'm not gonna take his lies, his rude remarks as in "Oh, we didn't find WMDs, did we?" as he laughs at a fund-raising during the time that our troops are dying for him...Put that in your pipe...Them's is facts!
It's not your right to bash her - this is the liberal board
As I said, if you have a problem with liberal ideology being expressed on this board, you need to contact the administrator as she is the one that helped toward having the two boards and requested many times to not bash.  Can you understand that?
Go over to the conservative board, and look for *you must be a liberal if* sm
and I'm sure there are some other pieces over there that you might find comical. Then let us know if you still think this is the most stereotypical thing you have EVER read.

It's meant to humor liberals. That's why it's on a liberal board. :):):)
Why a liberal and a conservative board?
I don't get this.  Why is there a board for liberals and a board for conservatives?  It's not like no one comes to the liberal board who isn't, and what fun would that be, anyway?  And is everyone comfortable with the labels?  I consider myself a liberal on many issues, but there are some issues on which I would agree with conservatives.  For instance, I want less government (which Bush supposedly wants, ha!).  I think people ought to be able to bears arms and it's a real good thing for Iraq that Saddam Hussein didn't keep them from having them, so now they can try to repel the foreign invaders.  Just a couple of issues for which no label really works....
Excuse me, but this is the liberal board.
The only person who isn't respecting it is you.
This is the liberal board and I'll do as I please. (NT)


Is this the liberal board anymore?
I give you Democrats and/or liberals credit for even being able to respond to the right wing who for some reason, I just cannot understand why, constantly come over to the liberal board and post more than the liberals do and every post is a disagreement or outright attack towards the liberal poster who posted on the liberal board..I frankly have had it with the Republicans.  They have messed up America with their backward way of thinking and they still dont get it.  Their party is falling apart and they are looking at more Democrats being voted in yet they still spew their hate, bias, closed mindedness..From Limbaugh to Coulter to Falwell to Robertson, Dobson, Hannity, etc., etc., they show the world how uninformed and racist and backward they are..and the Republican masses follow blindly.  I just about choked on the latest idiotic comment by Coulter concerning Christians and Jews.  Someone needs to set that broad straight real fast.  The comments she made that Jews need to be perfected is a mind set right out of Hitlers Germany. Oh and all you Republicans who will wander over to the liberal board and real this, dont waste the energy, I will not respond to your posts nor read them.  This is a post to my fellow Democrats/liberals. 
What's brining you over here to the LIBERAL board is the question????
Do some self evaluation before you try to check me chick!


Your permission is not necessary for her to "spout" on the LIBERAL board.
Apparently you had forgotten.
Since when are you the judge of what is more stimulating on a LIBERAL board?

I don't find anything you write to be stimulating, intelligent, educational or worthy of debate.  And as far as patting people on the back, that's what you do on the Conservative board.  You bash liberals, ALL liberals, EVERY LIBERAL IN THE WORLD, and then the people with the crudest, rudest insults against liberals are patted on the back and high-fived by the rest of you.


Liberals don't discuss things like Repuglicants do.  We would rather be civil with people and find you incredibly distasteful human beings. They obviously call you neoCONS for a reason.  Your posts are nothing but litter...trash...garbage, and I for one, can't relate to and don't want to communicate with people who do nothing but prove how ignorant, childish, hateful, nasty, untruthful and uncouth they are.  Is this really the image you want to portray of your party?  Because that's what you're doing.


Why can't you just be happy on your own board and stay away from people who have asked you repeatedly to stay away because we're not interested in your rhetoric and your attacks?  Or, like your president, aren't you happy unless you're destroying things? 


This is the liberal board. She can scream all she wants. If you don't like it, LEAVE.

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the Liberal Board.

This is the liberal board. Please do not bash the posters here. Thank you. nm

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Wow....an aspiring Ann Coulter right here on the liberal board...
what a hateful, bigoted rant, vrt...are there any Jewish people in my neck of the woods? Christians get a sensivity chip in their brains? Wow...you sound a lot like the person you are slamming. Pot, kettle, BIG TIME.

Okay...Al Franken made a terribly offensive remark toward gays. Yet the left blew that off. Media totally did not report it. Some said he was *joking.* Do you think gays found that funny?

Your protests ring hollow when you accept it on your side and criticize on the other...I don't see where you have any high moral ground to speak from.

Your post speaks to it.

When I said she was an entertainer, I said that is what she does. And it is what she does. I never said I liked it and in fact said it WAS offensive and wrong. Yet you want to attack me personally because of semantics. AL Franken is also an entertainer. He has made terrible, offensive, nasty comments. I don't watch him. I don't listen to Coulter either.

As to your "freaking ignorant" comment...perhaps people in glass houses should not throw stones.
Yeah....liberal compassion. I see a LOT of that on this board....
laughable. But again, skirted entirely around the issue.
What liberal board did you copy this smut
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I see that no liberal on this board was outraged by your post...sm
Did you also see in the news about the walls outside of congressional offices, new furniture being thrown out, as well as files and files of personal info?

Where is the outrage about this? I could only find it on Fox, so obviously the liberal media could care less.

I guess this has been going on for some time, but still....it really makes me mad....


....just like the fact that they voted themselves raises and are hoping no one would notice........
Why are you starting these dumb @$$ threads on the liberal board?
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Looking back on the liberal conservative board shows you for what you are.
Liar.
This board is for liberal posters. Do not bash their posts. sm
Thank you.
"Our opposition.." You are the voice of the liberal board?
Guffaw.
Now, now, GT, that is precisely the kind of post that belongs on the Liberal Board!

Do you know where we can find one?


That's interesting, coming from one of the most judgment neocons on the liberal board.

But lately, you;ve contributed daily to the toxic liberal posts on this board.

I see the liberal left on this board...save one "sm" could care less for your post....sm
Dems everywhere want total control, and obviously could care less what happens once that is obtained.





I will remember that one...if you remember...thou shalt not kill. nm
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The so called liberal media is not so liberal anymore...sm
Case and point Fox News is the #1 media outlet via ratings and hardhitting conservative anchors, pundits, and journalists. Other than Hardball, I don't know of another mainstream show that puts the liberal point of view out there and checks this administration and their policies.
liberal hit piece by a liberal deep thinker....
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Oh my! I remember him well. I remember we used to call him...sm
tricky d!ck. He lost the election when he appeared at the first television debate against JFK, slam dunk! He was a very crafty, evil man in my opinion and the latest news reinforces my opinion even more. It was so interesting that he eventually did become president years later and proved to be a disgrace to the presidency.
So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

some respect?


You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board

Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.


I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)


I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.


I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.


If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 


Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.

To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.

Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.

This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.

The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
With all due respect,

all the posts I've seen you post have come across to me as very confrontational.  You seem to be limited to posting only posts that defend these three, and I haven't seen you post anything on any political issue -- just confronting posters and complaining about their behavior, sympathizing with poor AG, Nan and MT.  That's ALL you've posted on this board, and to say it was YOU who was attacked shows, at the very least, the very same mindset that precludes you from seeing things objectively.  Afraid I have to agree with GT above.  I, too, smell a conservative in liberal clothing, and it also wouldn't surprise me if you were either one of those three or one who is very closely allied with them.


But I will take you at your word that this is your last post.  In addition, I will make this my last post to you.  I'm happy that at least temporarily we're free of all the intolerance and hatred and rage and battles that ensue when those three are around.  I refuse to get back into that, and I feel that you're trying to take me down that path, and I'm not buying it.


Have a blessed day.


With all due respect.
One source is a personal blog. Those are strictly opinion pieces and carry no weight on either side.  The Chicago Sun piece is more interesting, but merely makes vague statements without a single name of anyone who is bashing.  Now don't get me wrong, I have serious concerns with President Bush, stem cell research not being one of them.  I am alarmed at the big government policies and also at the illegal alien fiasco (which I am reading has some surprises in store).  At any rate, this really is a nonstory.  Remember when Lieberman gave the speech on the Senate floor criticizing Clinton.  It happens.  I feel no connection to the country club wing of the republican party (any more than the country club wing of the democratic party).  They certainly don't speak for me.
With all due respect..

... it doesn't say very much about an Army mom who would use his service -- his putting his life on the line -- in order to try to bully, shame and coerce people who would rather see her son home with his family and safe.


It doesn't say very much about an Army mom who would sacrifice her own flesh and blood because she's too busy worshiping a very false idol in Bush.


But most of all it doesn't say very much about a president who couldn't care less about her son, a president who has recklessly, negligently and uncaringly tossed America's young people into harm's way for an unnecessary, very possible illegal war.


I honor her son, and I respect his courage very much.  I thank him for putting his life on the line in service to his country.  And I profusely apologize to him for the way his life has been devalued by Bush.  Maybe if Bush had the integrity and courage to actually serve in a war himself, he wouldn't be so hasty about killing our young people.  Her son, by virtue of having the courage to serve, is way, way, WAY above George Bush in the integrity and courage categories. Wouldn't we be fortunate if someday her son went on to become president?  He's already more fit to serve than Bush is.


I hope and pray that he can return home to his family (where he belongs) and that his return is safe and without injury.  I'm just very, very sorry that his mother can't see that just because we don't worship an idiot like she does, that doesn't mean we don't support our troops because we want them safe and home with their families instead of fighting an unnecessary, immoral war.


No respect
No respect for the owners of this board who have requested republicans/conservatives to not post here..Do I have to report you?
With all due respect...yes you did...
you posted that you loved to find the errors and do the research. That certainly implies that you enjoy trying to prove people wrong. And that is fine, if that is what trips your trigger. Again, what I said was we had more social programs, and again, the comparison to other nations, I would like to know what other nations and their population in relation to ours before I put a lot of stock in the data. Respectfully.
With all due respect...sm
*Civil debate* has not gotten us anywhere. In order for there to be debate BOTH sides would have to listen to each other, and meet somewhere in the middle.
With all due respect, I
disagree. I have read the words Dems and lefties and socialists used interchangeably. Look through the archives and I did not say it was you.
Respect
Well, I find the posts title a bit disrespectful. I mean, I wouldn't come to the conservative board and post with a title "Glad to not be a republican." Seems to me like "Me" was looking to stir the pot with that title.
With all due respect...
the moderator has posted several times that we can cross post. Apparently the moderator does believe in freedom of expression.

If "most of you" want to speak among yourselves, don't answer my posts, don't pile on with the crass remarks that are totally unnecessary. To coin your own words, ignore me. Quash dissent. Be intolerant of other views. To each his/her own.

There are those on the liberal board who do not mind a discussion and are actually able to do so in true liberal fashion without the personal gotchas. And as far as the gotchas...I only gave as I got. At least there were those true liberals who did not mind...but I believe you quashers have run them all off too.

So, if you do not wish to have a discussion, certainly your right. Don't answer my posts.

And...just a side note...liberal posters cross over too, and I have yet to ask them to get on back to their "own" board or stay on their own board. You see...I don't just say I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of expression...I act on it...unlike you.
With all due respect....
Your quote of:
"What is wrong with this picture? First, it should be obvious that it is not the job of the U.S. government to tell people what version of Islam to embrace on pain of permanent incarceration. As long as people are not committing or fomenting acts of violence, it is not our role to pressure them into changing their faith. When did it become acceptable to set religious conversion of any kind as the price that frightened people must pay for their freedom?"

These kids at Camp Cropper were committing acts of violence..setting roadside combs, firing at soldiers, etc. Your quote came from a different article about a different program dealing with adults...not with children. Two different programs I think. No one is asking them to change their faith. Are you saying that all Islam is radial jihadist? Of course it is not. These children are being taught by Iraqi teachers, not Americans. The article I posted describes it more clearly.

If it can turn a few away from jihad to what most Muslims call "true Islam," that is a good thing, right? If it can get sunni and shiite teens talking with one another, listening to one another, interacting with one another...is that not where change begins? Like you rightfully said, it was the young people in Venezuela who helped turn the tide in that country. Perhaps the same can happen in Iraq. Are you saying it is a bad thing to present these kids with a different view of Islam, that perhaps killing other Muslims is not a good thing to do? When it is presented to them by other Muslims, not by Americans? How can that be a bad thing by any stretch?

Again...we are there, piglet. Whether we leave now, next week, next month, or next year, we are there. Why should we not try to help while we are there? Like the soldier said...it is a positive thing and he is proud of what he was able to accomplish. If it turns one kid, two kids...they may be the future of Iraq. Someone had to start teaching kids in Venezuela another way...why can't we show those kids another way while we are there? If we can stop one from strapping a bomb to himself or getting his arms and legs blown off trying to set a roadside bomb...is that not a good thing? I don't see the down side to this. Honestly.
I have a lot of respect

for any man or woman in the armed forces.  I think that their opinion in our next president is very important.  However, even with military personnel, there are still going to be some of them who vote strictly because of race or political party. 


If our votes don't really count....this is pointless, but you can't screen people and question their motives for voting and who they choose to vote for and why before you let them vote.


with all due respect...
the only one WITHOUT a voice here is the child. We are speaking for the child. If that chaps you so severely, I'm sorry. No one is judging anyone. When Scott Peterson killed laci and connor, 12 people judged him and he is in jail for the rest of his life. It is somehow different because Scott chose to kill the baby instead of Laci? Please tell me how that makes sense. If it is wrong to kill, it is wrong to kill, and it certainly wrong to let one person have the choice to arbitrarily kill another. It is the act and the procedure that is being judged here...or that is what should be judged here.
Moral wrongs are judged by people every day. Stealing is wrong. Murder is wrong. Killing someone is murder. Cutting a defenseless baby to pieces with no one to defend it and nowhere to run to is horrific. At least admit it. If you want to give a person a right to murder another person, at least call it what it is.