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Powell WMD speech 'lowest point in my life'

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-08-23
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Former aide: Powell WMD speech 'lowest point in my life'






Tuesday, August 23, 2005; Posted: 10:44 a.m. EDT (14:44 GMT)






 
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell presents the case that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction in 2003.

(CNN) -- A former top aide to Colin Powell says his involvement in the former secretary of state's presentation to the United Nations on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was "the lowest point" in his life.


"I wish I had not been involved in it," says Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, a longtime Powell adviser who served as his chief of staff from 2002 through 2005. "I look back on it, and I still say it was the lowest point in my life."


Wilkerson is one of several insiders interviewed for the CNN Presents documentary "Dead Wrong -- Inside an Intelligence Meltdown." The program pieced together the events leading up to the mistaken WMD intelligence that was presented to the public. A presidential commission that investigated the pre-war WMD intelligence found much of it to be "dead wrong."


Powell's speech, delivered on February 5, 2003, made the case for the war by presenting U.S. intelligence that purported to prove that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Wilkerson says the information in Powell's presentation initially came from a document he described as "sort of a Chinese menu" that was provided by the White House.


"(Powell) came through the door ... and he had in his hands a sheaf of papers, and he said, 'This is what I've got to present at the United Nations according to the White House, and you need to look at it,'" Wilkerson says in the program. "It was anything but an intelligence document. It was, as some people characterized it later, sort of a Chinese menu from which you could pick and choose."


Wilkerson and Powell spent four days and nights in a CIA conference room with then-Director George Tenet and other top officials trying to ensure the accuracy of the presentation, Wilkerson says.


"There was no way the Secretary of State was going to read off a script about serious matters of intelligence that could lead to war when the script was basically un-sourced," Wilkerson says.


In one dramatic accusation in his speech, Powell showed slides alleging that Saddam had bioweapons labs mounted on trucks that would be almost impossible to find.


"In fact, Secretary Powell was not told that one of the sources he was given as a source of this information had indeed been flagged by the Defense Intelligence Agency as a liar, a fabricator," says David Kay, who served as the CIA's chief weapons inspector in Iraq after the fall of Saddam. That source, an Iraqi defector who had never been debriefed by the CIA, was known within the intelligence community as "Curveball."


After searching Iraq for several months across the summer of 2003, Kay began e-mailing Tenet to tell him the WMD evidence was falling apart. At one point, Wilkerson says, Tenet called Powell to tell him the claims about mobile bioweapons labs were apparently not true.


"George actually did call the Secretary, and said, 'I'm really sorry to have to tell you. We don't believe there were any mobile labs for making biological weapons,'" Wilkerson says in the documentary. "This was the third or fourth telephone call. And I think it's fair to say the Secretary and Mr. Tenet, at that point, ceased being close. I mean, you can be sincere and you can be honest and you can believe what you're telling the Secretary. But three or four times on substantive issues like that? It's difficult to maintain any warm feelings."




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At one point in my life, I was working
but still had to count on foodstamps to feed my two kids.  Was a burden to society?  Had to learn to use coupons, and then one day the checkout girl forgot to take off the 25 cent coupon of my food bill.  I was told, "It's only a quarter" to which I replied, "I hope you never have to learn what a quarter means."  Found out years later that unfortunately she too learned what a quarter was after she married, had a couple of kids, and was on foodstamps.  But I thank those Americans who paid their taxes in order that my children did not starve, even as I was working full-time.  
You missed the point....she was trying to end another's life!
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"kill him" speech is not acceptable free speech - it is against the law - nm
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I am not in your life....I am in the life of the baby...
and will continue to speak for the baby. Again, my right.
Powell
I agree. I think he'd win by a landslide, and America would finally have a President with some dignity.  Oh, to dream!! 
Powell

He was never anything but a Dem in my book.  Notice that it was that nasty, ole' George Bush who was the first prez to put a black into such a high level in his cabinet.  And also Condi Rice...  But Bush is way too lib for me, anyway.  But he's right on things I consider important.


I find it amazing that the Dems will defend their party no matter what the scandal, but the Republicans don't.  Rmemeber Mark Foley?  Gone!  His replacement:  3rd mistress, I believe?  How about Ted Stevens?  He needs to GO, and is Republican.  Clinton cheating on Hillary all the time?  I wouldn't condone that from any of them. 


That's my point, and it's the truth.  The politicians work for US, remember?


The show and Powell

I thought the show was wonderful and illustrated very clearly how bits and pieces of intelligence were selected and manipulated and turned into something they weren't.  (They referred to it as a "Chinese menu" that the administration used to pick and choose from.)


I taped this show and watched it a couple times.  As far as Powell is concerned, it did show how Powell's relationship with George Tenet began to disintegrate.


It further showed how Tenet was, at Bush's father's urging, kept as CIA director when Dubya took office, and all the events leading to his resignation.  He was one of Dubya's sacrifical lambs.  I guess Bush thought giving him the Medal of Freedom made up for that.


Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell's chief of staff, said that Powell told him, "I wonder how we'll all feel if we put half a million troops into Iraq and march from one corner of the country to the other and find nothing."


Powell said, "I will forever be known as the one who made the case. I have to live with that."  (That made me feel really bad for Powell, who I have always trusted and considered to be an honest, ethical man.  His association with Bush really dragged him down, and his statement about having to live with that just tells me that he's still an honest, ethical man, the kind of man who had a spectacular military career, actually had the guts to go fight in wars himself, someone who truly IS Presidential material, someone who doesn't belong in an underhanded, lying, foolish administration like Bush's.)


The show also pointed out how if you are someone who works for this president and you discover something not right or in alignment with his "plans," if you tell him, you'd better be prepared to resign or be fired. 


This show clearly illustrated how Bush wanted to go to war with Iraq, and all he needed was a reason, even if he had to invent a fictional one.


Again, I thought it was an excellent show, and if you ever have the opportunity to watch it or obtain a transcript of it, I would highly recommend it.


same with Colin Powell

It is easy to see that he is heart-sick that his years of service to our nation were in vain because he was pressured into making those untrue statements to Congress.  It is big, sick, industrial machine ruining lives everywhere it plants its massive cloven hoof.


 


I always admired Powell
There are some people you admire even if their politics are different and it's because they appear to have integrity.  That's what the frothing right-winger(s) on this board don't understand.  It's more about integrity than political affiliation for some of us.  And that's why so many folks don't care for Bush - he had a life-long history of lacking integrity and being publicly mean and petty at times. 
what about Colin Powell as VP?
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Come to think of it, Colin Powell might be the
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You got that right. Colon Powell could have
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If he had chosen Powell...
all we would be hearing is about how Powell went to the UN and "lied" about the "faulty intelligence" that took us into Iraq. Powell has said that no one lied and it was indeed faulty intelligence and he believed it too...and the same people who are here lauding Powell since he endorsed Obama probably are the same ones who said Bush lied men died. Opinions are based totally on what side of the political fence someone is presently standing on. LOL. Sigh.
Here's a few more republicans besides Powell
1. William Buckley, III
2. Susan Eisenhower
3. Julie Nixon Eisenhower
4. US Senator Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)
5. Former Rep Jim Leach (R-Iowa)
6. Former Bush White House intelligence advisor Rita E. Hauser
7. Governor Linwood Holton (R-Virginia)
8. Former LA Mayor Richard Riordan (R)
9. Bill Ruckelshaus, appointed first chief of the EPA in 1970 by President Nixon, appointed acting director of the FBI in 1973 and later named deputy U.S. attorney general. He resigned rather than obey an order from Nixon to fire the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox. In 1983, Ruckelshaus was appointed interim director of the EPA by President Reagan.
10. Douglas Kmiec, co-chairman of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign’s Committee for the Courts and the Constitution; worked in the Reagan Justice Department.
11. Mayor Ed Koch of New York, formerally endorsed Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg for Mayor, AL D’Amato for U.S. Senate, George Pataki for Governor, and, in 2004, George W. Bush for President of the United States.
12. Retired four-star Air Force General Merrill “Tony” McPeak, served in the Air Force for 35 years. Former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, served as co-chairman of Oregon Veterans for Bush something he would later call an enormous mistake.
13. Donald Capoccia Vice Chair, US Commission of Fine Arts
14. Jackson M. Andrews, Republican Counsel to the U.S. Senate. Republican nominee, U.S. Senate from Kentucky.
15. John Martin, Founder of RepublicansForObama.org
16. Richard J. Schwartz, Chairman, New York State Council on the Arts
17. Todd Garrett, retired Senior VP and CIO of the Procter & Gamble Company
18. Richard B. Stewart, Assistant Attorney General for Environment and Natural Resources
19. Jim Whitaker, Fairbanks, Alaska Mayor
20. Ambassador Thomas Graham Jr., Executive Chairman of Thorium Power Ltd.

Collin Powell........sm
has been hoodwinked, just like so much of America who has put on the blinders when Obama is the subject for discussion. I don't believe that Powell is necessarily a fool, but I do believe he has been fooled.


If it was McCain and Col. Powell
I would have probably voted for Powell. If it was McCain and Rice, I probably would have voted for Rice. But Obama? WHO IS HE, REALLY! I know nothing about him. I do not trust him at all, ESPECIALLY since now our new treasury guy is in office. Soooo, can I use Turbo tax and kinda of fudge my taxes and not pay for some things and then state, "Oh, I am sorry, I guess I do not know how to use Turbo Tax." You know it and I know it that I would be thrown in jail. But this? A guy who is now running our treasury department? There are higher ups now, newscasters, Jim Cramer on Mad Money and so many others who are not pleased with the new treasury guy let alone Obama's stimulus package. I even heard almost half the Democrats, are not to thrilled with his stimulus package.

Nope, DO NOT trust our new president at all. I wish we could have had future presidents take a mental exam. Sorry, I really, REALLY wanted our new president to the best for this country. We are all in the same boat, but I choose not to sink in the same boat.
If McCain had chosen Powell for VP...sm
the race would be a LOT closer right now. Stupid choice John.
Was that before or after General Colin Powell
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I don't look to Colin Powell as my "leader"
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And let us not forget....Colin Powell....
believed that same "bad" intelligence and went before the UN to sell it to the world. Surely they do not consider Colin Powell an imbicele...the same Colin Powell who endorsed Barack Obama? Surely NOT. Sighhhhh. So did the senate foreign relations committee, lots of Democrats. Our VP elect also voted for the war resolution. But that is conveniently forgotten in the rip Bush apart effort. These same people who preach unity. Sighhhh.
Colin Powell would get voted in in a heartbeat if he ran.
He would have democratic and republican support.

I wish he would run too!
You must be thrilled that C. Powell has relegated SP's SNL flop
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IMHO Colin Powell isn't a puppet.

Colin Powell interview on Obama
Beautifully stated. See link.
Exactly. The real Obama himself. I thought Powell
was to be picked for something by Obama since Powell endorsed Obama.  Waiting to see where Oprah fits in this too.  Already picking shady characters for his team and more liberals.  Partisanship, my ....
I doubt Colin Powell would ever speak out against this admin.
It's not in his nature to be a whistle blower.

I will say though I have ALWAYS admired him, before he joined the Bush admin. I had great respect for him; in fact, when I learned that he was a republican I was surprised. I felt we had a lot in common politically. While I am a democrat, I consider myself an independent thinker and do not always vote a straight democratic ticket.

I still had respect for him though as sec of state in Bush's admin. It did turn my stomach though when he made the case for this war, I felt he was either being lied to and was falling for it or felt he had to support it because of his political affiliation.

If you've ever heard him speak publically, he's very down to earth and nonpolitical in his nature. Much to be admired still in this man.
Colon Powell endorses Barak Obama. nm
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Colin Powell....closet democrat...no surprise there...nm

What part of "I am republican first and foremost" (Colin Powell)
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What makes you think Colin Powell would want to be on the McCain ticket?
Colin Powell decided not to run for President of the United States several years ago. Why on earth would he accept an offer to run for Vice President on the McCain ticket? In addition, Powell has adamantly denounced the despicable smear tactics used by the McCain campaign recently.

I find it laughable how quickly the right-wing wackos turn against anyone who makes an educated decision to support Obama.
I prefer watching re-runs of Colin Powell's
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Here we have a fringe flock constituent accusing Colin Powell
with a straight face and seriously expecting us to buy into this psycho-babble. The only people you are scaring with this trash is each other.
I agree. This is the exact reason why Colin Powell wouldn't run..sm
He didn't want his privacy or his entire family's personal life to be dug up and exploited by the media. He got a lot of respect from me when he chose to protect what was the most important to him...family.
I think BB has a point here in that the main point on the board is political discussion, and let'
face it, there is SO MUCH going on right now, changes, problems, disasters, and so much debate on what should/could be done, but so many tims the political discussion disintegrates in a finger-pointing, name-calling exercise, spouting religion all over the place. Yeah, our spiritual beliefs are dearly held and we would all strive to be the best we can be, and do whatever we can whatever the ideology is, but sometimes I wonder, since we have a board EXPRESSLY for Faith isuues, where relgious debates/discussions/forums, etc are welcome, why does THIS board have to be turned into RELIGION BOARD PART II, especially if one ideology wants to dominate or ridicule/condemn those who come on here for lively inteligent discussion, debate of issues in Congress and in our lives, and just want their beliefs held separately? CNN is not EWTN or any other Christian network, and there are constant informative, bright, lively, balanced discussions from all over the political spectrum on the credentialed news stations, as well as C-Span, but they are not constantly hiding behind a cross, rosary, bible, star of David, or whatever....can we not strive to do the same and put religious debate on the Faith board?? Just a thought to ponder, MHO, it might work beter, who knows?
is the the starting point or the end point for the middle class?
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Bush inherited Powell from Clinton who inherited him from Reagan.
Bush wouldn't have had the sense to pick Powell all by himself. Have you heard the latest on Condi? She's been palling around with senior Hamas leaders, sending them thank you notes and such.

Here's how that other thing works. When the fringers stop lying, dems stop denying. It's not that complicated.
I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.

Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming my world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction. They are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say?
I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.

Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming a world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not exactly have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction they employ in order to "secure" themselves.

The Palestinians are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say? This might just account for the lop-sided fatalities/injuries ratios between the Israelis and the Palestinians. In closing, it is worth noting that even with the advantage of all those terrorist toys and tools our tax dollars have bestowed upon them, security and peace of mind just seem to be further and further beyond their reach. Wonder why that is?
get a life
You post once again shows you are a vile and nasty person who surmises too much about people on chat boards.  You know nothing about me and you attribute too much to me.  I have no control of liberal posters.  I enjoy reading their posts and respond when I want to.  My advice to you is get a life and stop taking postings on a tiny bulletin board so seriously.  You are sounding irrational.
Life?
Well, as a practicing Jew, I believe life begins at the first breath, but I know everyone does not agree with me.
Life...
How can something that moves, has a heartbeat and brain waves not be alive? Please to explain that to me.
Life...
I never said I did not give a hoot about what you believe and I am somewhat taken aback that you accuse me when you do not even know me. I do not agree with you, no; but you are entitled to believe as you wish, and just hope that you afford me the same courtesy. So, you are saying that you are on board with abortion? It is okay because the child is not alive according to your religion...that the child has no soul until it takes its first breath? So basically taking away its chance to take that first breath by invasive surgery is not murder, because you believe the child has no soul until it breathes? I am not finding fault, I am trying to understand a different view.
life
I am not on board with abortion. Since I believe (and many Jews do too, but not all) that life begins with breath, I believe it is up to each woman to make the decision that is right for her. It is not my place to judge or condemn her choice. My family has 2 children what were very much wanted and are very much loved. I feel fortunate that I never was in a position to have to make a choice regarding my pregnancies. But, just because I didn't chose to terminate a pregnancy (for whatever reason), I certainly don't want to take that choice away from another.

Basically, (and I am not referring to you personally here) if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one, but don't push your beliefs on me or anyone else.
Nat'l Right To Life, etc.
Check some of these places if you still don't want to believe me. Plenty are out there. One search for the above (nrl.org) brought up plenty.
I'm Pro-life sm

My point is that all our tax dollars have no business being spent on bad behavior and things such as this.  The mainstream media has "mainstreamed" this issue, in an attempt to minimize the subject matter a 

Many people who refuse to watch FNC because they're supposedly nutty right-wingers aren't getting both sides to the story.  For instance, if you go to Foxnews.com and pull up Hannity & Colmes, you'll see that the show is half liberal and half conservative.  You won't find that on the others.  And while you're at that site, the info regarding what Rick Warren had to say about the debate at Saddleback, and how Obama actually heard more ahead of time than McCain.  Actually, it was no debate, as Obama still refuses to have a face-to-face with McCain.  I guess that's presidential? 


I personally prefer to know when I get my news that I get both sides of it, and the people on the network aren't afraid to put their political views out there. 


It sounds like we both agree on this, so I was surprised that you asked.  Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough or something.


 


her life is obviously out of

control.  A real woman attends to her responsibilities at home. Her Downs baby needs her to BE THERE and interact with her.  It is not enough just to bring her into the world, she must care for her.  A pregnant teenager needs her mother there to guide her through this unfortunate time in her life. Teenage pregnancy is devastating to the development of a young woman who should be preparing for her own adulthood not attending the needs of an infant.  Infants of teenage mothers suffer also.  Instead Mrs. Palin will be on the road campaigning for 2 months and then in the WH adjusting to her new job after that. Those sure aren't part-time activities.  I don't approve of a part-time mother OR a part-time VP especially with such an elderly pres.  Obama and Biden are vital individuals who have loving, stable home lives and will not be distracted from their duties.


 


Get a life
Duped how exactly??? They still have the ranch and are keeping the ranch. Big figgin deal.
Nothing in life is sure but............ sm
death and taxes, and Mr. Barnett very eloquently proved the latter.


A Day in the Life of a Republican

A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.


All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because *some liberal* union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packingindustry.


In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.


Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.


Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home or go hungry because of his temporary misfortune.


It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.


Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and hisbelow-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.


Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuckhis nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.


He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.


Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.


Joe agrees: We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.


I am against anything that destroys life.
That's my stand. 
Yes, I am strongly pro-life...
and I have said in numerous posts that I am not against insuring children. And I am NOT. What I am against is taxing all Americans to death to pay for all kinds of programs where the waste is unimaginable. There are thousands if not millions of women who made a living having babies...under Aid for Dependent Children. If you don't believe that, talk to some people in Human Services. They sign up 2nd and 3rd generations on AFDC or whatever they call it now. Those ladies will never work and they tell you they will never work, and I can promise you they are not bettering themselves so that they can keep health care for their children. And if you look at those children, I am thinking not a lot of that check every month goes to taking good care of the kids. My point is, trim the fat on existing programs that obviously are not working...don't make NEW taxes to pay for MORE programs that no one is going monitor either. There is plenty of money floating around out there in wasteful programs that could fund insurance for children without making even MORE taxes. And what I am saying to you is that at some point, the more people who get on programs and out of the work force, the less tax money there is going to be to take care of all the programs. That is all I am saying.

And another thing, you need to read the bill. It does give a lot of leeway for folks who could pay for private insurance for their children if they made it a priority. But why should they, if you and I are going to pay for it for them. Yes, I believe there are some people out there who would like to better themselves but will not so they can keep health care for their children. I can also tell you that there are as many out there who could provide health care for their children but will not because they think it is too high and they choose to spend the money elsewhere. Ugly, but true. So why didn't Congress send the bill to Bush that did not have that loophole provision in it? There is a really good question.