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Quick - can you see this author's logical Posted By: error? on 2009-06-28 In Reply to: Hiking the Appalachian Trail - GOP shooting self in foot--morality Whether someone says "You shouldn't be able to do in your bedroom" or someone says "You should be able to do in your bedroom", it's just opposite sides of the same thing, i.e. someone offering an opinion about your bedroom activities. Whether it's "may" or "may not" doesn't change the fundamental character of the statement. Got brain? Complete Discussion Below: marks the location of current message within thread Hiking the Appalachian Trail - GOP shooting self in foot--morality Can't we all just agree that - Mythbuster Nothing like the threat of a - C. Mudgeon Amen to that, sister! - Colleen Quick - can you see this author's logical - error? As I've said before - you really don't want to - have this discussion. My opinion. - mt I'd much rather be a conservative.... - AZMT Thanks for sharing that! I sure couldn't have - said it better myself. The messages you are viewing are archived/old. To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select the boards given in left menu Other related messages found in our database The only logical question I have...sm Let's say the Clinton's administration's caution of not wanting to harm innocents and the UAE prince in one instance, led to bin Laden's escape during times we could have took him out. I'll say Clinton dropped the ball. His caution turned out not the best call. But wait, haven't the republicans told us the movement was bigger than bin Laden. Anyway, when on God's green earth does Bush plan on picking the ball back up. Even after 9-11, he has failed to locate bin Laden (or maybe not - maybe there will be a docu-drama of how he refused to take him out during this term. I still don't get how cozy we were with the bin Laden family after 9-11. I don't care if they disowned him). Ironically, the Bush White House gets so many tapes from bin Laden, yet don't have a clue where he is. The conservatives really don't have much to stick their chests out about here either. Seems like a logical decision to reject a man who would guarantee that the election would be lost. There is a lot at stake here. I think that is a good example of him putting Country First, not his own personal preference, if indeed his preference was Lieberman. Sorry, but you have to think through to the logical consequences. I'm sorry, but you can't have it just one way. If marijuana is legalized, it's sheer nonsense to imagine it will stop there. And I assure you that I do care what people consume, and so should you. You must have no conception at all of the enormous costs to society of dependence and addiction (and puhleeze don't tell me marijuana isn't addictive because that train left the station long ago). The fact that we legalize a substance does not make it any less harmful. Doesn't it seem passing weird to you that the very same people whose political ideology supports the notion of banning ice cream socials in high school, banning corn syrup, and all sorts of bans on smoking cigarettes in not only public but also many private places would support the legalization of marijuana? Cough that one up. The author Well, as soon as I got to the part where the author said that teachers work 6 hours a day, 10 months a year, I was ticked. My sister and brother-in-law are both teachers, and I can tell you that they work way more than that, at least 7-8 hours in the school a day, plus nights and weekends grading papers, lesson plans, etc. Days in the summer in trainings, preparing materials, etc. Other than that, there wasn't a whole lot of substance to the article, just like most things posted here! So much for logical discussion between right and left. / Thank you for your intelligent, logical remark...par for the course x Yes, the author of this is completely... truthful and trustworthy. Ahem. And you left out this part of his letter: (1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam. (a) The religion of the Unification of God; of freedom from associating partners with Him, and rejection of this; of complete love of Him, the Exalted; of complete submission to His Laws; and of the discarding of all the opinions, orders, theories and religions which contradict with the religion He sent down to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Islam is the religion of all the prophets, and makes no distinction between them - peace be upon them all. It is to this religion that we call you; the seal of all the previous religions. It is the religion of Unification of God, sincerity, the best of manners, righteousness, mercy, honour, purity, and piety. It is the religion of showing kindness to others, establishing justice between them, granting them their rights, and defending the oppressed and the persecuted. It is the religion of enjoining the good and forbidding the evil with the hand, tongue and heart. It is the religion of Jihad in the way of Allah so that Allah's Word and religion reign Supreme. And it is the religion of unity and agreement on the obedience to Allah, and total equality between all people, without regarding their colour, sex, or language. (b) It is the religion whose book - the Quran - will remained preserved and unchanged, after the other Divine books and messages have been changed. The Quran is the miracle until the Day of Judgment. Allah has challenged anyone to bring a book like the Quran or even ten verses like it. (2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you. (a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest. We call you to all of this that you may be freed from that which you have become caught up in; that you may be freed from the deceptive lies that you are a great nation, that your leaders spread amongst you to conceal from you the despicable state to which you have reached. (b) It is saddening to tell you that you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind: She is right, they don't like, in fact they hate, everything about this country. They hate it because we don't have Sharia law. The only way they will stop trying to kill us is if we kill enough of them first, or convert to Islam and fall under Sharia law. Which do you choose? God is not the author of confusion........ sm so it would seem that you are the one speaking jibberish and lack credibility. "Guilt by association" is a logical fallacy. Unless, of course, you're quite prepared to admit that Obama is a domestic terrorist. (Need the associations to support that?) Please understand. I don't blame you. I blame the public school systems that no longer teach students logical skills. author is Richard Morris - that is hilarous!!! Get your facts right here folks. It is worth mentioning that the author of this article is a a conservative Republican and contributing Editor of Red State, a conservative blog. Since we are always hearing after this or that article about that paper or station being liberal, I think it should be be noted that this is clearly republican and biased on that account. I have already written the author of this- others should email Doctors swamped, having to dictate from a zoo. Honestly. How many of us have heard doctors dictating from the bathrooms, doing their business 1 and 2, their homes with dogs barking, eating, snorting, and the list goes on. Also as an Editor was amused by the fact "only doctors are allowed to edit reports or change." I do not know of any physicians here in the US doing that. As far as what is not to like, when my hospital tried to send work overseas the physicians up in arms because of the horrible work they got back. That did not last long with them when the doctors spoke. Just trying to be logical, but I doubt security wise that would be a good idea. . Tucker Carlson interviews David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor sm He is a theology professor and member of Scholars for 911 Truth (one of those on the fringe loonies they keep telling you about - you will see he is not). Check out Tucker's new look (I am LMAO). He is not wearing his trademark bow tie, and looks like he set his hair with curlers. http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=2a3290a0-4b79-4bf5-8119-b91b7dede110&p=News_Comment%20-%20Analysis&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8063292/&fg= Author of this link is an acid-mouthed witch hunting hate monger has made a career out of spreading division and hate. She makes Michele Malkin look like a Marxist comrade. She is Anti Obama, Anti-Hillary, Anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, Anti-McCain (he's too "liberal", Pro-Palin and (gt this) Pro-Bush. She positively worhips the guy. I reviewed the titles of her newspaper articles and WITHOUT EXCEPTION she publishes these types of articles. Some of her more notable titles: 1. Obama's Contempt for our Constitution. 2. In Palin-Gibson Throwdown--Gov Get A, Media F (I am SO SURE). 3. Where is Obama's TESTICULAR Fortitute? (little trash mouth). 4. Ding Dong, the With Is Dead...referring to Hillary's defeat in the primaries. 5. Barack Obama's Snake Oil. 6. Is Hillary Mentall Ill? 7. Hillary's Slapped-Around-By-Men Problem Bodes Ill for the Presidency. 8. The STELLAR Legacy of George W. bush. 9. The Rest of the World Loves President Bush (this woman needs some serious antipsychotic drugs). 10. Liberals Don't Support Our Troops. If she were in the same room with me, the only way I could control my urge to deck her would be to remove myself from her presence over this outrage. 11. Pathology of Liberalism. 12. Hillary: Typical Actions of an Abused Woman. 13. The 7 Deadly Sins of Liberals. You see, this is why citing sources matters. Credibility....NOT. She is a fanatic hawking a hateful agenda. No surprise there that she would be onboard with this BC lunacy. Why are you so quick to believe he isn't is the nm I just quick read this but it seems these were Saddam henchmen not 9/11 perps as was claimed above unless you all are finally conceding that Iraq had something to do with 9/11. However, I agree that these people shouldn't just walk free. If they are connected in any way with Saddam and/Al Queda/Hamas or any known terror cell they should never see light of day again be it in the depths of a prison or from their graves. Just one quick question... where is the iota of value in this post? And, as it has been explained on numerous occasions, we are allowed to cross-post. Liberals also post on the conservative board. I asked a simple question of a liberal poster and was rewarded first with condescending comments alluding to the superior intellect of the liberal poster, and rewarded second with accusations that I was a cliche (my native american heritage). And after all that....refused to answer my question. I suspect because the posterior was incapable of doing so. Perhaps you can explain to me why many liberal posters post something, and when you ask them a question about it and they cannot, the resort to condescending and hateful comments. Talk about not having one iota of value in a post other than to talk down to someone asking a simple question. Wouldn't the best thing to do be just not answer the post at all? Don't understand the defensiveness. All that tells me is that they are not secure in what they believe and without talking points to refer to are lost as a goose. That is not an accusation...it is an observation. Just another quick observation... when Clinton came to OKC after the Murrah bombing, even though he is not anywhere on my list of favorite people, I was happy that he came and represented the office and spoke to we Oklahomans. It was moving and I was very, very happy that he came. What I did NOT do, and what NO conservative I was aware of did, was complain that why did he come there and NOT go to the funerals of those soldiers who were killed and their bodies dragged behind Jeeps in Somalia. Why, you ask? Because the two had absolutely NOTHING to do with each other. And to try to make political hay out of what happened at Virginia Tech is immature, thoughtless, and another hurt to add to those poor folks in VA trying to deal with this. War is awful, hateful, and NOBODY wants it; however, death has always been associated with war. However, going to your class innocently on any April day and having a lunatic come in and shoot 32 of you is FAR different. And if you really cannot see the difference and the emotional effect, not just you but a great many on the left, need to really sit down and examine your values. Seriously. Quick question for you How can McCain vote with Bush 90% of the time when Bush does not have a vote in the senate? Also, a lot of the votes in the senate are unanimous so that means that democrats are voting "with Bush" too. Please research these things by looking at actual voting records of folks instead of believing whatever the media says, left or right. Quick definition..sm Marxist-Socialist A philosophy-turned-governmental-ideology, usually mistaken for Stalinist/Leninist-Communist. This philosophy, although greatly misunderstood, is nothing more that the belief that the strong, the capable, and the powerful should support those too weak to support themselves. This philosophy, created by Karl Marx, was meant to be the fundamental building block for a utopian society, but was later taken up by a man named Lenin, who twisted and warped the pure isea of Socialism and turned it into Leninist-Communism. Later adopted by Joseph Stalin, who made the idea of Socialism a cruel cycle of death, hatred, and intolerence. Quick question I can't believe that I am going to get involved in this, but I have to stand up for the truth.. 1 Peter 3:15 "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence". What do you think makes you a Christian, bcuz you were baptized? Never in scripture does it say to be a Chrisitan you have to be baptized. Being baptized is the outward sign that you are a christian. It is all based on believing in Jesus who died on the cross for your sins. John 3:16; John 3:36; John 6:40; John 6:47 the list could go on. Women Deacons: God never once said deacons were to be women. It is talked about in 1 Timothy 3:8-13. However, you need to read the scripture in contexts, bcuz this is where a lot of people think when he says "wife" he is saying "deaconess",however, this is not the case. You need to take the words back to the original language to understand their true meaning. Also if you search out 1 corinth 14:34 and 1 Timothy 2:12. If you have a lexacon, I suggest using it, and if not buy one. For homosexuality: Sin is sin, all sin is equal to death (Rom. 6:23)unless you have trusted the Father. Once you have trusted the Father then you also have the Holy Spirit housed in you. With the Holy Spirit, you will feel convicted over your sins and ask for forgiveness. This does not mean that you will never sin for all sin. There is none righteous, not even one (Rom. 3:10). However, if you ask for forgiveness it will be granted to you (1 John 1:9). This does not mean that homosexuality is right. This was never what God intended. (1 Corinth 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10) Just a few passages. I do not hate homosexuals, as hate would be a sin in God's eyes. However, we need to love them and show them that God loves them too. If they would trust in God, he would forgive them and help them to turn away from their sin. Tithing: Tithing is an old testament law. Once Jesus' blood was shed on the cross that was our payment of sin and no longer holds us under the law of the old testament. However, this is one law that churches like to hold onto. If you practice this law of the old testament, then you know that it is not only 10% of your earnings, but 10% of everyhing in your possession. Pro choice: As you stated this is everywhere in the bible. God never wanted abortion. All children are His children. Refer to the Ten Commandments, "Thou shall not commit murder". This is all over in the bible. As a professing Christian, I hope that you brush up on what scripture teaches us. You are hurting the Christian race by blasphemying Christ; going against His word. (Matt 12:31) We need to keeps God Commandments (John 14:15;). I could go on. As for things are different today then they were back then, read Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever". True Christian's beliefs should not be different. There is only one bible (different translations), but if you studied it and researched it back to its original language, you would know that "religion" does not make us Christians, believing His word does. I am not trying to bash you, I am merely trying to help you. I attend a free grace church. If you or anyone wants to learn more you may email me and I will give you the church website. We have free sermons to download and listen to. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life". Sad that some Americans always want a quick nm Unbelievable is all I can say, Everyone so quick to...sm believe and condem. Does not anyone know that what you read on the internet is not gospel? I have not heard a thing on the national news, so I will wait and see. Why are you so quick to discount this but you @ Way too quick to judge! I was simply passing on a story, like the OP. I'm not Republican because my dad is. I'm a conservative and if those beliefs happen to go along with the Dem candidate, then that's who I'll vote for. The story was meant to show how people's idea of "spreading the wealth" can sound like a really good idea - everyone haveing an equal share - but when you get down to it, it goes against everything our country was founded on. The American Dream - come sign up to get your welfare check! No thanks!!! Quick question. Did they know Rock Hudson was gay back then? I didn't realize that was public knowledge back then. I thought that came out later. I still say that teaching children tolerance of others different than they are is one thing. Teaching acceptance of such a controversial topic is another story. As for not teaching 5 year olds...what was with the story about the same-sex penguins who raised a baby penguin together? If that isn't teaching kindergartners about homosexuality...well then I don't know what is. Tolerance can be taught without teaching acceptance of homosexuality in public schools. Besides, since homosexuality is much more out there than it was when I was in school, you would think kids would be used to having them in their schools anyway. I keep hearing about how same sex marriage is more acceptable especially by younger people and yet here you are telling us that homosexuality acceptance should be taught in public schools because it isn't accepted by young people. So which is it? That was quick. Sorry I missed (%'s MySpace. nm how about a quick tubal ligation dontcha think? My quick explanations of my comments -- I did not blindly follow Obama. I did not vote for Obama because he is black. Actually, my vote may have been more of a vote against McCain than for Obama. Next, to the points that I can address quickly - he is now not going to raise taxes on the "rich" because of the current economic condition, but that he is still intending on giving tax breaks to the middle class families. He also said during the campaign that he is going to bring the troops home, but it has to be in a safe manner. You cannot just say that they are pulling out on a certain day - that would be crazy and extremely dangerous for our soldiers. It has to be arranged. He had a timeline in the beginning - people just jumped on what he said and took things out of context and listen to what words they want to hear, not every word. I for one will support him as long as he is doing a good job and then I will be the first to stand up and say I should not have voted for him if things go bad. And the whole point of sending them to other countries, we all agreed in the beginning that we need to get Osama Bin Laden, so why not do it now? I think he needs to be gone and I think we need to do whatever it takes to get him. I, however, think that Obama's point of view is the same as mine, we should not be in Iraq wasting our time when that is not where the problem is... When I say "love him or hate him", I mean that nobody is lukewarm for his policies. It seems as if everyone is either gungho behind him or gungho against him. That has been proven time and time again just on this board, not to mention other places out in public that I have been. The people who are for him are for him and the people that area against him cannot be objective to sit down and listen to his whole speech or his whole idea. Don't be so quick to bash Bush.... sm This is near the bottom of the article I posted. Maybe you just missed it. "To gain access to the emergency loans, GM and Chrysler must also agree to a wide range of concessions, including limits on executive pay and the elimination of their private corporate jets. " Everyone put it on Bush's shoulders to do some thing about this and now that he has, still he gets bashed. He's not my favorite president by far, but I think he should be afforded some kind of recognition for doing something to help the economy. As far as pay cuts for the UAW, the article says that they will have to bring their wages more in line with those of foreign auto makers, which is still a danged good salary. Would the UAW rather have a pay check or be completely unemployed? That is pretty much what it all boils down to. I wouldn't particular want to take a pay cut either, but in light of the situation and the current economic picture, I think I would thank my lucky stars that I at least would HAVE a jo Like the old saying goes "You can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time." Off . Wow, you sure are quick! BTW...love grapes! nm // Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill. Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back????? Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $ht. Help??? I like blue so much better! Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill. Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back????? Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $ht. Help??? I like blue so much better! A quick look at this board shows... me exactly where they are. After a quick scan of the board... ...I respectfully and totally disagree. Quick b4 they melt. She thinks global nm quick get out your remote lie detector tester and tell us all from your isolated, secret location what is true and what is not. Here, hold up a mirror, real quick....you just described...sm how almost every liberal on this board holds their fellow members, you know, the ones so cherishingly called "repugs" and "rabid pubs." You sound a lot like Ann right then....in reverse. So predictable. Quick to judge, aren't you? At least you apologized.... // Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing... So, if married MEANS you can if you want have children, what if I married a man who was NOT ABLE to have children and I knew this. Could I still marry him? Would we be considered "married" in the eyes of others since we could not have children? Or a woman unable to have children, should she be able to be married? Just a thought! Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing... So, if married MEANS you can if you want have children, what if I married a man who was NOT ABLE to have children and I knew this. Could I still marry him? Would we be considered "married" in the eyes of others since we could not have children? Or a woman unable to have children, should she be able to be married? Just a thought! Quick! Someone call the pound. AG's pit bull broke loose from We can't be quick enough. You've seen how they're passing enormous bills - - that they don't even read within a matter of hours. First the stimulus, then the tax bill on executive bonuses, etc. Meanwhile, it's taken them over six months to investigate some very straightforward charges against Charlie Rangel. CORRUPT!