Just another quick observation...
Posted By: Observer on 2007-04-20
In Reply to: W's thinking (or not) - ravenswing
when Clinton came to OKC after the Murrah bombing, even though he is not anywhere on my list of favorite people, I was happy that he came and represented the office and spoke to we Oklahomans. It was moving and I was very, very happy that he came. What I did NOT do, and what NO conservative I was aware of did, was complain that why did he come there and NOT go to the funerals of those soldiers who were killed and their bodies dragged behind Jeeps in Somalia. Why, you ask? Because the two had absolutely NOTHING to do with each other. And to try to make political hay out of what happened at Virginia Tech is immature, thoughtless, and another hurt to add to those poor folks in VA trying to deal with this. War is awful, hateful, and NOBODY wants it; however, death has always been associated with war. However, going to your class innocently on any April day and having a lunatic come in and shoot 32 of you is FAR different. And if you really cannot see the difference and the emotional effect, not just you but a great many on the left, need to really sit down and examine your values. Seriously.
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Oh and an observation. sm
Your a hoarder, aren't you? You are one of those awful people who stores perceived bad things about people and then they cross you BAM!!!! It all just comes vomiting out. Yes, I know that you are and it's obvious by your posts. You are hit-below-the-belt kinda gal. Any weapon in your arsenal, even when you are wrong and have been proven wrong, that stuff is just burned into your brain and even a hate-filled screed doesn't get it out. Not a pretty picture.
Observation....(sm)
I would agree that Obama is a pop culture thing. However, if you sit back and look at it you will see why. The younger generation typically gets it's news from shows like Saturday Night Live, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, etc. All of these are slanted to the left. The Obama campaing used the internet very successfully as well to reach the younger generation. The republican party has done nothing like this to reach the younger voter. Why? If I were a young person I would look at it like, well, I guess the republican party doesn't want to take time out to actually reach us, so he must not have our interests at heart.
This is also mirrored in the not-so-young group. Obama was everywhere including, again, the internet, predominantly black churches, labor unions...the list goes on. His campaign was inclusive of many. He also had the benefit of more money which allowed for more visibility through commercials.
The McCain camp on the other hand went for predominantly white churches, less commercials, and very little internet. I'm sure there are more than this, but I personally did not see any, and I live in TN (if you can believe that)...LOL
I think if you look at both sides you will see people just spewing out what they've heard in commercials or in speeches. Not everyone watches cable news like most of us do.
The funny thing to me is that America voted in an African-American citizen with one parent from Africa, who admittedly not only smoked marijuana but also inhaled because *that was the point.* ROFL. I think it's obvious that the majority of people in this country want change. They may not know what that change is, but they do know that what is happening now is not working.
Just an observation..sm
I do not consider myself strictly republican or democrat. I always vote according to the issues, not the party. Forty or 50 years ago it seemed that the working class folks were democrat and the upper class folks were republican. There were not as many social issues involved in politics. I was just a little kid back then, but I recall my father being a "democrat". Jumping ahead to now, there are a lot of older folks in my area, especially rural areas, that don't look at issues at all, don't even know what the candidates support, but by golly, they are voting democrat all the way.
Just an observation...(sm)
The group "2 Million For Marriage" would like you to call them "2M4M." Do these people not look up anything? ROFL.
Just an observation here,
but wasn't he sworn in on a bible, and not a koran? I think he just did not want photographs living on and on with him standing in front of a cross. (Just in case he wants to hedge his bets.)
Just an observation...sm
I am not republican or democrat...I make my voting choices based on issues. I would just like to make an observation here. Maybe I haven't paid really close attention to political stuff in the past, but I don't know that I have ever seen this Country more split that it is right now. I have never seen or heard such irresponsible, selfish and disrespectful actions from Congress as they have done in the last year or so. It seems that no one, and I mean NO ONE, in Washington cares about the future of the United States, only about themselves or certain groups who they think can give them something. I'm not trying to start any arguing back and forth. I just needed to say this.
Just an Observation, Observer.....
Approximately 65% of the posts on this board are made by you. I have read some of your posts, and in one of them you state that you come here, as a conservative, mainly to read and learn. Are you certain that this is, in fact, your main purpose for coming here? It would seem from the sheer number of your posts, well over 50% of them being made by you here, that your purpose is not to read and learn, but rather to dominate and monopolize. Just an observation....
A Realist's Observation...
Got this email this morning...
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first SIX, with a conservative majority, the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%, the lowest in decades.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high—peaked over 14,000
5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...
But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and we got 'CHANGE'.
In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) Gasoline is went over $4 a gallon & STILL unstable!;
3) Unemployment is up over 5.5%;
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) And THE DOW is probing another low~~$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS has evaporated from their stocks, bonds, and mutual fund investment portfolios.
Let’s not forget, the President has little control over any of these issues…ONLY CONGRESS.
And what has Congress done in the last two years?.....NOTHING!
NOW the candidates CLAIM they are going to really give us change…along with this same democratic Congress????
I don’t think we can stand much more 'CHANGE' like this….
What's y'alls' take on it...??
Excellent observation
Truth is truth and facts are facts. No matter how much you hate someone and think their dummer than a rock, you can't put the blame all on him. Everytime the democrats get into office the economy goes down the tubes. The facts are that the congress votes on issues (not George Bush).
Love the observation. Thanks.
I'm just making an observation (sm)
If there are any FACTS (and I'm not talking about an interpretation) relevant to this election from pubs on here, please feel free to point them out. I am honestly trying to understand why people would vote for McCain.
Great observation
I haven't thought of that aspect of all this hoopla and flash that has accompanied this whole election/inauguration. I'm not worried as much about him as I am his snooty, snobbish, holier than thou wife! She already has a goddess complex, I sure hate to see what all this is going to do to her. Seriously, can she get her nose any higher? Looking down on people like she's so above them, makes me sick.
You certainly have that one right - good observation
If only more people would realize this.
Good observation
You said it. It's sad to see that it's not balanced anymore and people don't want to hear the truth. My MIL thrives on bashing the republicans and the conservative shows. She listens to the way way left and all she can do is gloat about Obama winning and how perfect and handsome he is and she'll actually come out and state what she wants to happen to anyone who is a republican. The same thing she's screaming about if it happened to Obama but its okay if it happens to a republican. It's just very sad that this is what our country has turned into. - Zero tolerance for anyone who has a different viewpoint.
You are deifinitely right about the liberal rigging the game.
It was just an obvious observation.....
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An astute observation!! look it up!!!!
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Not to get a fight started...just an observation...
that little twinge is probably be the Holy Spirit and you would be well served to maybe listen to it....? Or perhaps you think not listening to the twinge in favor of listening to John Edwards is the better path.
God bless!
Attack versus observation
So if someone called me a big, fat, smelly, ugly, loud-mouthed, foul hag that could qualify as an observation (in your words) and would therefore be acceptable? I mean, technically someone could say they OBSERVED these traits in me. When does something cross the line and become a personal attack?
My take on all this is that if it originates from one of the C-posters it's an observation. If it originates from an L-poster it's an attack. Not always, but in general. Could be due to the whole political board system have a very very far right-leaning slant........
Merely an observation. I'll pass on this and
Sam is hateful because sam is hateful. Her posts speak for themselves.
You make an important observation.
The "arrogance" and "elite" accusations are tactics used ad nauseum in the absence of direct debate on issues, when trying to avoid confronting talking points that have been raised and when trying to run from fact and valid observations/opinions. Usually these accusations are made by folks whose own fund of knowledge is limited on the issues at hand and who are not inspired to research to broaden their own fact base in rebuttal.
This is when the accusations surface and attitudes are substituted for intelligent discourse. You are right. The confusion you describe and accusations of this nature are typically leveled against Obama, who does display confidence, intelligence, substance and ability to lead, which unnerves his detractors and send them into fits and tantrums.
Don't go there - I made that observation last week
and got shredded apart for it. I thought it was freaky, but all the super-dems took major offense to it. It was just an observation on my part.
This observation is made by a Canadian MT.
Go Obama! Hilliary in 2012. The world is watching and the world says VOTE OBAMA.
Intelligence offends you? Just an observation.
Oh oh, another big word....
Excellent post and observation
You saw the same thing I did too. The Queen would never be so low class to point out one's error in front of others. MO should not have put her hand on the Queen's back, shoulder or touched her anywhere. She should have shook her hand and that was it.
Why are you so quick to believe he isn't is the
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I just quick read this but
it seems these were Saddam henchmen not *9/11 perps* as was claimed above unless you all are finally conceding that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.
However, I agree that these people shouldn't just walk free. If they are connected in any way with Saddam and/Al Queda/Hamas or any known terror cell they should never see light of day again be it in the depths of a prison or from their graves.
Just one quick question...
where is the iota of value in this post? And, as it has been explained on numerous occasions, we are allowed to cross-post. Liberals also post on the conservative board. I asked a simple question of a liberal poster and was rewarded first with condescending comments alluding to the superior intellect of the liberal poster, and rewarded second with accusations that I was a cliche (my native american heritage). And after all that....refused to answer my question. I suspect because the posterior was incapable of doing so. Perhaps you can explain to me why many liberal posters post something, and when you ask them a question about it and they cannot, the resort to condescending and hateful comments. Talk about not having one iota of value in a post other than to talk down to someone asking a simple question. Wouldn't the best thing to do be just not answer the post at all? Don't understand the defensiveness. All that tells me is that they are not secure in what they believe and without talking points to refer to are lost as a goose. That is not an accusation...it is an observation.
Quick question for you
How can McCain vote with Bush 90% of the time when Bush does not have a vote in the senate? Also, a lot of the votes in the senate are unanimous so that means that democrats are voting "with Bush" too. Please research these things by looking at actual voting records of folks instead of believing whatever the media says, left or right.
Quick definition..sm
Marxist-Socialist
A philosophy-turned-governmental-ideology, usually mistaken for Stalinist/Leninist-Communist. This philosophy, although greatly misunderstood, is nothing more that the belief that the strong, the capable, and the powerful should support those too weak to support themselves. This philosophy, created by Karl Marx, was meant to be the fundamental building block for a utopian society, but was later taken up by a man named Lenin, who twisted and warped the pure isea of Socialism and turned it into Leninist-Communism. Later adopted by Joseph Stalin, who made the idea of Socialism a cruel cycle of death, hatred, and intolerence.
Quick question
I can't believe that I am going to get involved in this, but I have to stand up for the truth..
1 Peter 3:15 "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence".
What do you think makes you a Christian, bcuz you were baptized? Never in scripture does it say to be a Chrisitan you have to be baptized. Being baptized is the outward sign that you are a christian. It is all based on believing in Jesus who died on the cross for your sins. John 3:16; John 3:36; John 6:40; John 6:47 the list could go on.
Women Deacons:
God never once said deacons were to be women. It is talked about in 1 Timothy 3:8-13. However, you need to read the scripture in contexts, bcuz this is where a lot of people think when he says "wife" he is saying "deaconess",however, this is not the case. You need to take the words back to the original language to understand their true meaning. Also if you search out 1 corinth 14:34 and 1 Timothy 2:12. If you have a lexacon, I suggest using it, and if not buy one.
For homosexuality:
Sin is sin, all sin is equal to death (Rom. 6:23)unless you have trusted the Father. Once you have trusted the Father then you also have the Holy Spirit housed in you. With the Holy Spirit, you will feel convicted over your sins and ask for forgiveness. This does not mean that you will never sin for all sin. There is none righteous, not even one (Rom. 3:10). However, if you ask for forgiveness it will be granted to you (1 John 1:9).
This does not mean that homosexuality is right. This was never what God intended. (1 Corinth 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10) Just a few passages.
I do not hate homosexuals, as hate would be a sin in God's eyes. However, we need to love them and show them that God loves them too. If they would trust in God, he would forgive them and help them to turn away from their sin.
Tithing:
Tithing is an old testament law. Once Jesus' blood was shed on the cross that was our payment of sin and no longer holds us under the law of the old testament. However, this is one law that churches like to hold onto. If you practice this law of the old testament, then you know that it is not only 10% of your earnings, but 10% of everyhing in your possession.
Pro choice:
As you stated this is everywhere in the bible. God never wanted abortion. All children are His children. Refer to the Ten Commandments, "Thou shall not commit murder". This is all over in the bible.
As a professing Christian, I hope that you brush up on what scripture teaches us. You are hurting the Christian race by blasphemying Christ; going against His word. (Matt 12:31) We need to keeps God Commandments (John 14:15;). I could go on.
As for things are different today then they were back then, read Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever".
True Christian's beliefs should not be different. There is only one bible (different translations), but if you studied it and researched it back to its original language, you would know that "religion" does not make us Christians, believing His word does.
I am not trying to bash you, I am merely trying to help you.
I attend a free grace church. If you or anyone wants to learn more you may email me and I will give you the church website. We have free sermons to download and listen to.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life".
Sad that some Americans always want a quick
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Unbelievable is all I can say, Everyone so quick to...sm
believe and condem. Does not anyone know that what you read on the internet is not gospel? I have not heard a thing on the national news, so I will wait and see.
Why are you so quick to discount this but you
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Way too quick to judge!
I was simply passing on a story, like the OP. I'm not Republican because my dad is. I'm a conservative and if those beliefs happen to go along with the Dem candidate, then that's who I'll vote for. The story was meant to show how people's idea of "spreading the wealth" can sound like a really good idea - everyone haveing an equal share - but when you get down to it, it goes against everything our country was founded on. The American Dream - come sign up to get your welfare check! No thanks!!!
Quick question.
Did they know Rock Hudson was gay back then? I didn't realize that was public knowledge back then. I thought that came out later.
I still say that teaching children tolerance of others different than they are is one thing. Teaching acceptance of such a controversial topic is another story.
As for not teaching 5 year olds...what was with the story about the same-sex penguins who raised a baby penguin together? If that isn't teaching kindergartners about homosexuality...well then I don't know what is.
Tolerance can be taught without teaching acceptance of homosexuality in public schools. Besides, since homosexuality is much more out there than it was when I was in school, you would think kids would be used to having them in their schools anyway. I keep hearing about how same sex marriage is more acceptable especially by younger people and yet here you are telling us that homosexuality acceptance should be taught in public schools because it isn't accepted by young people. So which is it?
I made a general observation relative to the post.
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That was quick. Sorry I missed (*%*'s MySpace.
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how about a quick tubal ligation
dontcha think?
My quick explanations of my comments --
I did not blindly follow Obama. I did not vote for Obama because he is black. Actually, my vote may have been more of a vote against McCain than for Obama.
Next, to the points that I can address quickly - he is now not going to raise taxes on the "rich" because of the current economic condition, but that he is still intending on giving tax breaks to the middle class families.
He also said during the campaign that he is going to bring the troops home, but it has to be in a safe manner. You cannot just say that they are pulling out on a certain day - that would be crazy and extremely dangerous for our soldiers. It has to be arranged. He had a timeline in the beginning - people just jumped on what he said and took things out of context and listen to what words they want to hear, not every word.
I for one will support him as long as he is doing a good job and then I will be the first to stand up and say I should not have voted for him if things go bad. And the whole point of sending them to other countries, we all agreed in the beginning that we need to get Osama Bin Laden, so why not do it now? I think he needs to be gone and I think we need to do whatever it takes to get him. I, however, think that Obama's point of view is the same as mine, we should not be in Iraq wasting our time when that is not where the problem is...
When I say "love him or hate him", I mean that nobody is lukewarm for his policies. It seems as if everyone is either gungho behind him or gungho against him. That has been proven time and time again just on this board, not to mention other places out in public that I have been. The people who are for him are for him and the people that area against him cannot be objective to sit down and listen to his whole speech or his whole idea.
Don't be so quick to bash Bush.... sm
This is near the bottom of the article I posted. Maybe you just missed it.
"To gain access to the emergency loans, GM and Chrysler must also agree to a wide range of concessions, including limits on executive pay and the elimination of their private corporate jets. "
Everyone put it on Bush's shoulders to do some thing about this and now that he has, still he gets bashed. He's not my favorite president by far, but I think he should be afforded some kind of recognition for doing something to help the economy. As far as pay cuts for the UAW, the article says that they will have to bring their wages more in line with those of foreign auto makers, which is still a danged good salary. Would the UAW rather have a pay check or be completely unemployed? That is pretty much what it all boils down to. I wouldn't particular want to take a pay cut either, but in light of the situation and the current economic picture, I think I would thank my lucky stars that I at least would HAVE a jo
Like the old saying goes "You can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time."
Off  .
Wow, you sure are quick! BTW...love grapes! nm
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Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm
Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill. Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back????? Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $h*t. Help??? I like blue so much better! 
Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm
Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill. Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back????? Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $h*t. Help??? I like blue so much better!
A quick look at this board shows...
me exactly where they are. 
After a quick scan of the board...
...I respectfully and totally disagree.
Quick - can you see this author's logical
Whether someone says "You shouldn't be able to do in your bedroom" or someone says "You should be able to do in your bedroom", it's just opposite sides of the same thing, i.e. someone offering an opinion about your bedroom activities. Whether it's "may" or "may not" doesn't change the fundamental character of the statement.
Got brain?
Quick b4 they melt. She thinks global
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quick get out your remote lie detector tester
and tell us all from your isolated, secret location what is true and what is not.
Here, hold up a mirror, real quick....you just described...sm
how almost every liberal on this board holds their fellow members, you know, the ones so cherishingly called "repugs" and "rabid pubs."
You sound a lot like Ann right then....in reverse.
So predictable.
Quick to judge, aren't you? At least you apologized....
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Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing...
So, if married MEANS you can if you want have children, what if I married a man who was NOT ABLE to have children and I knew this. Could I still marry him? Would we be considered "married" in the eyes of others since we could not have children? Or a woman unable to have children, should she be able to be married? Just a thought!
Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing...
So, if married MEANS you can if you want have children, what if I married a man who was NOT ABLE to have children and I knew this. Could I still marry him? Would we be considered "married" in the eyes of others since we could not have children? Or a woman unable to have children, should she be able to be married? Just a thought!
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