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Ran this past my brother who is a lawyer and...sm

Posted By: oldtimer on 2008-10-19
In Reply to: See inside for link - sm

a republican I might add (much to my chagrin) and he said it is a frivolous lawsuit. He added, which I already knew, it does not matter where he was born, who his father was, who he was adopted by, or where he went to school. His mother is an American citizen and he is therefore an American citizen, period. This is all just smoke and mirrors, lies, diversions from the real issues.


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Have a lawyer...
He has a lawyer, and he has been holding out for more money for awhile. Been through mediation and the lawyer representing AIG says that they just do not have any more money to come up with.

The lawyer actually thinks he might ought to go ahead and take the figure they are offering...
He's a slimy lawyer - (nm)
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Is he a constitutional lawyer?
Just because he is a lawyer does not make him an expert.  Please cite statutes, case law, etc.
Immigration lawyer. nm
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Saw a lawyer on the tube this morning....
saying that Obama campaign does not have to write down names under $200, however, they ARE supposed to be tracking credit card numbers to stop people from making MULTIPLE $200 donations with the same credit card. Supposedly that was done, but no one was making sure there were not repeat donations on the same card. Or they knew it and ignored it. THAT Is why they want an investigation, because it is against campaign finance law for one individual to donate more than $200.

Obama kept the donation from Hamas until it became public and then he gave it back....lobbyists is one thing. Terrorists quite another.


don'forget civil rights lawyer
and constitutional law professor.  Yep, I think he think on his feet with the best of em. 
Yeah, and Obama used to be ACORN's lawyer
nm
It's to bad Mccain can't slick talk like O the Lawyer
then he could have really ripped O a new one.

But at least he called him out this time, although I wish he would have pushed a few more issues and really make him answer.

It's funny, all the left wings want us to pull out of Iraq a.s.a.p. but in talking with a lot of military folks I know they say they know why they are over there and they NEED to be there. I think the only ones that are ready to jump ship are the ones who only joined the military for a job and an education. The ones that actually joined because they want to fight for their country support what is going on overseas.

I don't doubt that Obama will win. There are too many people who are going to vote for him because he sounds good, and yes, many people will vote for him because he is black, and others will vote for him because they want daddy government to take care of them. Unfortunately, the majority of the nation can't look past his good looks and fancy speeches to see him for what he is.

After tonight, I think Mccain deserves the presidency. He wasn't my number one choice, but he sure as heck is my choice over Obama.
Your supposed "friend" who is a lawyer is a farce. nm
I does not matter what Indonesian law says. US law says that NO ONE can involuntarily take away ANY American's citizenship without their consent which can only be given at the age of majority, 21. Tell that to your friend.

On the reverse side, if a couple legally adopts a child from China, at the age of 21 they may decide whether they want to be an American citizen or a Chinese citizen.

Another example is if a pregnant woman from another country gives birth in the US, that child is automatically an American citizen and remains so until 21 when they can legally decide for themselves what country they want to be a citizen of. Get it?

LOL!!!! Oh brother. nm

oh brother !!!!!!!!
Don't you ever search out the truth or do you just ignore it altogether. Obama has come out and denounced Farrakhan. He doesn't agree with him and he has told Minister Farrakhan this. He finds Farrakhans comments disgraceful and not something he wants in his campaign. However, he can't stop someone from saying they like him and want him as president. There are lots of biggots out there with enough money to get their opinion heard whether its garbage or not. Spreading malicious garbage like this is so disgusting it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I guess you would rather have a president who is a socialist (you should read about her background).
SP brother in law

Anyone see the interview on CNN last night with SP's brother in law (the one she tried to have fired).  I did not see it.  What did he say?


 


SPs ex-brother-in-law....
This is a man wearing the uniform of the state police.  The issues involved were:  He tasered his 11-year-old stepson (who asked him to, but what kind of responsible adult would do such a thing??  And one who would should NOT be wearing the uniform of the state police in my humble opinion), he was found drunk on the job in his patrol car, and told his ex-father-in-law if he got his daughter a lawyer he would be eating an f'ing bullet.  Now Palin says she did not fire the man who SHOULD HAVE fired this lowlife for that reason, but for other reasons.  I choose to believe her, HOWEVER, if she HAD fired him for not firing this lowlife I would be in agreement with her 110%.  This guy's boss was obviously NOT doing his job.  It is a no-brainer.  This man SHOULD have been fired.  He has no business being in the state police.  His appalling lack of judgment should be reason enough.
No, brother.
Well now, let's see. Is it that high-pitched nasal quality, the cheerleader lilt, the putred perk, the colloquialisms, the rambling, the echoes of Minnie Mouse, the shrill screech, the squeal, the Fran Drescher (Nanny) interludes, the nagging quality, the snide conceit, the holier-than-thou undertones, the sarcasm, the audible sneering, the condescension, or the arrogant tone that chaps you so?
Oh brother
So let me get this right...you ridicule and cut down anyone who posts a link from Fox yet you continue to post from BSNBC????????

Say it ain't so Joe.
Brother Bill
Apparently people have forgotten their outrage over Clinton's zipper problem in the White House and now he's revered regardless of the fact that he made us the laughing stock of the world.  So why the outrage about Edwards?  I'm outraged that he would do this to his gravely ill wife.  As for Clinton, I lost all respect for Hillary for "standing by her man."
HE DOESN'T HAVE A BROTHER!
He has a half-sister.........................................Jeezus......it is raining stupid
tolerance...........oh brother!!!
Listen, I don't give a rat's butt about all this political PC garbage. Muslim countries hate us..... plain and simple. They so-called "religion" teaches hatred, not love, not tolerance, but pure hatred!! What about that don't you get?

After 9/11 everyone got to PC about profiling. We're worried about profiling? H@ll with that.....I saw profile them to death. If I happen to be on a plane, you better believe I, just like everyone else, was watching them like a hawk. You can be PC about everything if you want, but this is my country, not the Muslims. They have a country. They do not teach tolerance of ANYONE but themselves.

This has nothing to do with intolerance of those different than me. What an idiotic statement. I live in a community with people different than me in so many ways, it would take a while but one thing they all agree on.....they love this country more than they care about being PC. I posted a few days ago about a Muslim couple in our neighborhood. And, they said they would go back to their country any day if they felt safe. They feel no allegiance to this country. They will tell you they do not agree with bin Laden's hatred, but they do admit their sons are taught the Q'ran, which does not teach love of anyone but other Muslims. They fear their daughters could be stoned or raped and they know no one there will protect them. They take comlpete advantage of our schools to educate their children, but there is no allegiance to this country. You need to get off your PC pot because as you can see, that'll get us nowhere real fast!!!

Tolerance, what a joke. Why don't we just tolerate them coming on over here and taking another 9/11 blow at us? Will that be enough tolerance for ya?
That should read: No brother,
That's the second time I messed up the name line this morning. Must need a 3rd cup.
Oh brother - where to start is right.
His father left his mother when he was a baby? Yet Obama was able to write a whole book based on him? He has some communication with Kenyan relatives but not all? Where did you hear this? Wait...from him? Is that his explanation? So where did you study African Tribal Family Structures and the American family strucures? I think maybe people should take a break from the Survivor TV show. If the sheeple want to be led around blindly and actually buy into the same ol retoric of oh poor Obama, he didn't know he had an aunt or a cousin or an uncle because that's the way the "tribes in Africa" are, but he knows about all these others relative (Cheney & Irish ones). Glad I'm awake through all of this. Staying away from Survivor and doing some research does the mind some good.
Am I my brother's keeper?

Am I My Brother's Keeper
I find it interesting that he does not help his family. He has a brother living in poverty. CNN is not the station I would listen too as they are not going to tell you all about the candidates, or is MSNBC.
But it is true he has a brother living in poverty. My question is...why is he so willing to spread everyone else's wealth around but not his own.
Interesting.
Oh brother - get off the kool-aid

This is even weirder than the OP message.


Where's that icon of someone throwing up!


Oh brother. Obama is doing something,
You cannot spend and spend and think you are going to get out of a recession, but will cause inflation/depression.

If you are in debt, would you keep on spending more and more and get more into debt? No, you cut things out to reduce costs and try to pay off things. You find out you are in so much debt, you ask family and friends to bail you out. It works for awhile, but you are still in debt and now in more debt because of owing money to family and friends and before you know it, you are bankrupt which is just what is going to happen with this country. It is happening now.

As for creating jobs, sure, I am going to apply now to help make bridges and roads. Sorry, not my line of work.

If Obama fails, he stated at a town hall rally in Fort Myers, Fla, where the president promoted the bill, he said that in "a few years from now" if his prescriptions haven't worked and people don't feel like he's led the country in the right direction, "then you'll have a new president."

Hello, of course not, no one will vote for him again.

That was a clear reference to his likely re-election bid in four years.

Obama said he won't make any excuses if he fails in his effort to turn the economy around or improve the health care system.

"I won't lie to you," he said.

Obama hailed the Senate's passage of the massive stimulus bill.

"That's good news," the president said repeatedly in announcing the Senate's action to the crowd, as people jumped to their feet and cheered.

By the way, McCain is running for re-election and stated:

Being the Republican nominee for President was one of the great honors of my life and an experience I will never forget. Some have wondered, after my hard fought presidential campaign, if I plan to run for re-election to the United States Senate.

I want you to know that I do intend to seek re-election. The magnitude of the financial crisis that many American families are facing makes it clear to me that I want to continue to serve our country in the Senate.

The economic challenges currently confronting our nation are immense and unfortunately, the Democrats in Congress propose addressing these challenges through increased spending that wastes billions of taxpayers dollars and saddles our children and grandchildren with a staggering debt. Their proposals will not stimulate economic growth or create jobs. While the leader of the Democratic Party, President Obama, has pledged to change business as usual in Washington and spoken of bipartisanship, I have been saddened to watch as Congressional Democrats try to use their majority to advocate more of the same failed policies and wasteful spending of the past. With so much at stake, now is not the time to step away from my work in the Senate.

Sincerely,

John McCain

Oh brother. Obama is doing something,
heading us for a major depression.


You cannot spend and spend and think you are going to get out of a recession, but will cause inflation/depression.

If you are in debt, would you keep on spending more and more and get more into debt? No, you cut things out to reduce costs and try to pay off things. You find out you are in so much debt, you ask family and friends to bail you out. It works for awhile, but you are still in debt and now in more debt because of owing money to family and friends and before you know it, you are bankrupt which is just what is going to happen with this country. It is happening now.

As for creating jobs, sure, I am going to apply now to help make bridges and roads. Sorry, not my line of work.

If Obama fails, he stated at a town hall rally in Fort Myers, Fla, where the president promoted the bill, he said that in "a few years from now" if his prescriptions haven't worked and people don't feel like he's led the country in the right direction, "then you'll have a new president."

Hello, of course not, no one will vote for him again.

That was a clear reference to his likely re-election bid in four years.

Obama said he won't make any excuses if he fails in his effort to turn the economy around or improve the health care system.

"I won't lie to you," he said.

Obama hailed the Senate's passage of the massive stimulus bill.

"That's good news," the president said repeatedly in announcing the Senate's action to the crowd, as people jumped to their feet and cheered.

By the way, McCain is running for re-election and stated:

Being the Republican nominee for President was one of the great honors of my life and an experience I will never forget. Some have wondered, after my hard fought presidential campaign, if I plan to run for re-election to the United States Senate.

I want you to know that I do intend to seek re-election. The magnitude of the financial crisis that many American families are facing makes it clear to me that I want to continue to serve our country in the Senate.

The economic challenges currently confronting our nation are immense and unfortunately, the Democrats in Congress propose addressing these challenges through increased spending that wastes billions of taxpayers dollars and saddles our children and grandchildren with a staggering debt. Their proposals will not stimulate economic growth or create jobs. While the leader of the Democratic Party, President Obama, has pledged to change business as usual in Washington and spoken of bipartisanship, I have been saddened to watch as Congressional Democrats try to use their majority to advocate more of the same failed policies and wasteful spending of the past. With so much at stake, now is not the time to step away from my work in the Senate.

Sincerely,

John McCain

Lastly, I just have to say this. I bet those 3 pubs were blackmailed. Probably did not pay their taxes either. LOL.
my ex-brother-in-law got SSI because he had a temper! nm
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Answer to Brother!, not Skeet

You sound like Big Brother! Creepy!

Lawsuit...Biden's son and brother....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082302200.html?dbk


oh, brother. just some nice photos,
for crying in a bucket! 
I didn't know Pete had a brother. LOL!
God bless!
BTW, how many adoptions has your brother dealt
NM
Oh brother. Dems are launching a
FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Oh, I forgot, we have to "change" to socialism. Well, I did not vote for it and proud of it. YES I CAN.
Oh brother!...now you're really stretching..
What a silly statement.
Oh brother - president of death???? please
Because our president believes in a woman's right to choose you call him a president of death??????? Because he's fighting so that children themselves who get pregnant and not emotionally or physically or financially able to have a baby don't have to have one you say he's a president of death?????

Your other post was religious oriented, hence with all the talk of God and how we're all doomed and are going to he!! that belonged on the faith board.

Our president is not a president of death. We have a president who is on the side of a woman being able to choose.

Obama does not want to "murder" babies. You really need to get your facts straight before proclaiming something that is incorrect. You may disagree (as I do about some of his policies - who doesn't), but to say the things you are saying is outrageous and bordering on lunacy.

Obama does not want babies murdered and he certainly is not a president of death. You are certainly the one who is misinformed (not uninformed).

If you want to protest taxes, health care, the spending bill, foreclosures of homes, loss of jobs, etc, that's one thing, but abortion is a religious viewpoint and by your posts professing to know that Jesus is alive/here (or however exactly you said that) and god this and god that and you'll be praying for all of us, etc. That is a topic for the faith board so take it there.
Oops - my slip it was OBL's brother - thanks for correcting me
On Sep 11, the morning of the attack, Bush Sr. meets with members of the Carlyle Group in Washington. Bin Laden's own brother was at the meeting.

Sorry about the mixup, thanks for pointing it out.
Have you ever seen me post anything about the Kenyan brother story?
I don't remember seeing that on this board at all. Maybe I missed that. I realize there are those on both sides who engage in this kind of thing...but does that mean that everyone has to en masse? Could not individuals decide that was not the thing to do, like your candidate asked?
Did read it. So what? Take a chill pill, like my brother used to say....nm
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He DOES have a half-brother living in Kenya
nm
Oh brother - it amazes me how many are caught up in a fantasy
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WHERE DID I SAY I WAS WAITING FOR FREE MONEY...Oh brother...
I was making fun of your conspiracy theory regarding paid "SMs", but I think you know that.
As someone who watched my brother die in great pain......
and nausea, morphine not helping, dying of cancer, I would have given anything to give him relief. And now that I have systemic lupus, RA, Sjogren's and sarcoid, I at times wonder if pot would help (although I HATE smoking and never liked any drugs), but sometimes you just want so much to function.

I agree. We all know the ravages of cirrhosis and other alcohol-related diseases, I have had loved ones killed in car crashes involving alcohol, I see my kids losing friends to it, and I know of many "responsible adults" who still think nothing of driving after "only having a couple." If it were medically managed by a physician for documented conditions, if it helps in pain (I mean, like OxyContin, Percocet, and morphine are NOT being abused, sold on the street, etc?), I think it would be worth a shot with strict regulations, could be a HUGE cash crop for California as well as other states. And I am sick of the argument that it encourages people to be drug addicts. Come on, how many people become alcoholics because it is legal, and solely for that purpose? If someone has addictive behavior disorders and genetic predisposition, they are going to abuse Robitussin, alcohol, sex, ANYTHING. And how about how cigarette smoking affects the economy. There are millions of people on Medicaide and disability with emphysema, lung CA, and heart disease that can be attributed to tobacco, but because of tobacco lobbyists for decades and decades, we will never outlaw cigarettes. JMHO
Our sympathies to your lame brother. But shouldn't this
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I posted under Libby's post which brother up *other* families
Libby made it fair game.  She brought it up...
I visited this site. My brother, who is schizophrenic, goes to sites like this. sm
Sorry, but I don't care for this kind of site on the extreme right or left.  It has no believability.
Big Brother is I believe a covert force infiltrating each and every one's personal lives without
their knowledge. That is hardly the same thing as a poster on an MT board noticing that 4 different names post the same thing. I think that is creepy.  I have been on this board for a long time and I recognize patterns, phrases that are repeated verbatim from far in the past, things people remember about me and say something like ***weren't you the one who ....*** and it is posted under a name different from the original. I leave Big Brother to our shadow government, wherever they are.
They certainly have in the past. sm
but their headline didn't intentionally mislead like the one posted above. Oh, let's face it, the media is just not what it used to be.  I don't trust them at all.
from the past
I am so-o-o sick of the party bickering, finger pointing and verbal barbs blaming the other guy, I am remembering a line from my past "Alfred E. Newman for president." Back then it was a joke but it is starting to sound good again!
That's because most do not look at his past tax
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You mean once we look past the
seas of humanity jumping for joy on November 4th, the rafters-busting crowds that are descending on DC for the inauguration and the hordes in the global bleachers cheering him on? Four years is sufficient time to build a slam dunk of a track record but in the absence of worthy GOP opponents, all he has to do is stay alive between now and then to get re-elected. Personally, I hope that they put SP, Hasselbach and/or Coulter up there, the dream team of certain defeat. Sure doesn't look like they have much more than that to offer at the moment.
What about Roger Clinton, Bill's drug addict brother. Or Billy Bob Carter, sm
Jimmy's alcoholic brother.  Man, we could do this all day.  You know you posted that article to make the Bush's look bad.  If you judge people by their families, that says a lot about you.