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Your *information* was filled with insults...sm

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-10-13
In Reply to: Honey - You win the drama queen award

Sorry I don't meet your level of debate.



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Ah, more insults
is that all you can do?
Keep your insults
I did not bother to read past the first 3 lines of your post because you began your response by misinterpreting my post and you apparently are interested only in inflammatory response. It is the value of basic humanity I was referring to. Many of us remember a kinder and gentler America, more unified, an America where taking care of each other is not perceived as some sort of weakness or threat to our American values or way of life. Also, you do not understand the difference between democratic platform principles and socialist ideology. They are not the same.
completely filled
The main board used to be completely filled with them...and I mean completely.  You apparently missed all that.  Not sure if there are still there or not.
I filled in the blanks s/m
with Republican rather than profanity.  Of course I'm almost to the point where I say Republican=profanity judging from the excuses made for Saint McCain.  LOL
That's because our government is filled with more and
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Time for new insults. These are getting old!

well actually 15 of the hate filled showed up from the sm
church from Kansas carrying signs reading, "God hates America," "Thank God for dead soldiers." It was ridiculous. The police had blocked them off a section and in front of them were a group holding the US flag so as to block them out of site from the family and friends.
What a hate filled post.
:-(
What a hate filled post.
:-(
Maybe she just had her fill of insults from the other side
Another lib's perspective.
When did "conservative" and "liberal" become insults?

It seems to serve the purposes of politicians very well to encourage their followers to label, demonize and fear those who belong to "the other" party, and to paint them all with whatever nutty ideas the true extremists in the other party happen to believe.


The truth is that most "ordinary" Democrats are only a little more liberal than most "ordinary" Republicans, and vice versa, but we are encouraged to hate one another because this serves the purposes of the parties.  Politics has become not a matter of which party offers the most persuasive platform of positive ideas, but seeing who can create the largest howling, mindless mob.


Put your "everyday" Democrat and Republican in a room together attending some nonpolitical function - say, for instance, a baby shower or a choir practice.  They don't happen to know which party anyone belongs to.  What kinds of things do you hear them talking about?  What aspirations do you hear them express?  You'll be amazed at how much they have in common, sharing concerns for good schools, safe streets, job security, affordable healthcare, and many other issues.  The Democrat will be no happier about the increase in the sales tax than the Republican, and the Republican will agree that the current system of healthcare leaves too many people without options.


You're a liberal, and I'll bet that you're a moderate liberal.  I'm a conservative, but I'm a moderate conservative.  If we could get together outside of Washington, we'd probably come to some pretty workable, livable and even affordable solutions to the common problems that we all share.


Let's recognize what's happening to us as those in power in Washington find it useful for us to hate one another.  Let's resist.  And let's all see if we can't find some moderates in both parties that we can send to Washington who will truly represent who the American people truly are and what the American people truly believe when we refuse to be manipulated into positions of hatred toward one another.


 


But he just signed a bill filled with earmarks???
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To the pubs: Your fantasy-filled hatefest

Americans are tired of fear; they're voting for HOPE.


Americans are tired of lies; they're voting for TRUTH.   (Truth is not found on the tabloid pages, nor on internet "dot-com" pages claiming to be the gospel). 


Americans are tired of a dwindling and endangered middle class; they're voting for its SURVIVAL.


Americans are tired of being screwed by big business; they're voting to screw it right back.


Americans are voting for a leader who remembers they exist and will work FOR them, not AGAINST them, as the past 8 years have gone.


Americans are voting for NEW IDEAS to solve our problems; not the same old bull-caca that's been kicked back and forth through the halls of the White House in recent years.


As an MT, I'm voting with the hope of maybe, just MAYBE, saving my future employment; and NOT giving someone free rein to send the next wave of jobs to Mexico or Bolivia.


After tonight, I remain more optimistic than ever that a NEW DAY is coming to America, and that certain washed-up politicians will finally be put out to pasture.



 


Wow,you're so filled with self-loathing and bitterness s/m
you're incapable of accepting that there are people out there that are not.  To be called a suck-up for being nice and telling someone I appreciate them for being so?  Are you kidding?  You have proven my point to Marmann exactly.  What a shame to go through life so miserable that the only way you can feel good about yourself is to tear down someone else -- but for being nice?  There is plenty of nastiness on this board as it is, so really, you should be ashamed for contributing to the toxicity.  I bet you pull the wings off of butterflies, too, don't you?
Your insults persist, is your mind so tiny that you

..can't seem to debate or discuss?  So you pile on more bashing and insults?  You must be a very unpleasant person.


And by the way, I am an athlete and a weightlifter and my boyfriend says that with my mouth I don't need the muscle behind it.  I am definitely not a sissy.  Most of my liberal friends are athletes also and are definitely not sissies and we're not a bunch of fatsos either.   As for AG stating that it must "stink to be" us, well she's wrong.  It's actually really great!  Many of the libs in the blue states are among the most educated, best paid, longest-living and healthiest and SLIMMEST folks, we're likely to stay married and we generally smoke less.  So AG, you got it wrong about it stinking to be us -- kind of an unworldly and naive and cruel comment, I'd say.


Please point out the insults and I will address those posts. sm
In reading the board, I am not sure who the one poster you are referring to is. As far as Nina's post, I saw no insults.   Please point them out.  Until a poster identifies themselves as a certain political persuasian, how do you know who they are?  I'd like a clue. 
Sick of your insults - stop with the name calling
I'm sick of hearing "rabid republicans". You've said it in more than one or two posts. We have objective conversations on this board, but you don't want to hear anything that differs from your viewpoint. And whenever we bring up anything positive about McCain we are instantly cut down and called a bunch of names. All you want is to hear everyone praise Obama. We know you support Obama and in your own words "I don't. Big deal". The media is biased towards Obama and independent newcasters have even said so (and not on Fox only). However, Fox news interviews both sides and they are fair to both sides (and at least they look everyone in the eye - unlike liberals who interview McCain and won't even look at him). We understand the Obama supporters refuse to watch Fox because all they want to hear is praise for Obama and insults and cut downs for McCain. There is no tolerance on MSNBC, CNN and others liberal stations for anyone with a difference of opinions and nobody can have a decent conversation with them. I stopped watching a long time ago (and I was an avid watcher for the past 8 years but the constant put downs and lies just got to be too much).

I get a bit tired of hearing the same ol retoric of the republicans this or the republicans that and the "rabid republics". I have a few names myself for the other side but at least I have some respect for people with other viewpoints than my own. I listen, I research and if I ever find myself wrong I admit it. I find no tolerance on the democratic side with the exception of a few. I have relatives who are voting for Obama and you ask them what part of his plan do they support the most and they cannot tell you. They want to change the subject. That's what I find about most Obama supporters. Most cannot even explain what his plans are. Most keep shouting the same party line "Hope" hope, hope, hope, hope. Hope for what? Obama has not even explained what the "hope" is and nobody else can. Change? Change what? Change our constitution? Change our way of life? Change is not always for the better. "Yes we can". Yes you can what? Nobody can explain that either. The republicans at least have the foresight to know what McCains plans are about. The democrats in Washington have messed up the economy and they don't even have the you know what to admit it. They know it too. The republicans will be the first to admit its both sides fault because it is, the democrats just like to throw blame to the other side, but we all know the truth.

As for McCain getting in...we are all hoping that will happen and nobody will know til Tuesday.
Those ain't insults, they are observations! Man you guys R thin-skinned! LOL! NM

Insults do not an effective campaign strategy make.
nm
Your first sentence really shows was a mean hate filled shallow person you are.


Thanks so much for proving my point about the angry, hate-filled left. sm
You did a perfect job of it.  You are incapable of thought other than that driven by hate. Your debates are screeds and your voice is strident and laced with the same adjectives...the word liar comes to mind. Which, of course, you are.
Certified graduate of the *How to Insult like a kindergartener* school of insults. SM

Wow, the vitriolic statements, insults, and downright hate being shown....sm

on this board today (not unlike any other day, really), is amazing.  Okay, we all have our ideals, our belief system, etc.  But this board is a sad, tragic, IF very minute microcosm of why this country is so far in the dirt.........educated adults who will hate, insult, stamp their feet, stick out their tongues, and spew garbage rhetoric, RATHER THAN join with the country, the new president, the senate, congress, etc., and try to be part of the SOLUTION  instead of the PROBLEM.  We will NEVER fix this country, whether we have a democrat, republican, or independent in office, with pure hate and spite.  This is a chance for a new start.  Why not wait and see, why not pray for the president, teh cabinet, the Congress, and the whole nation, and try to work in our own ways for change.  While we are busy hating each other, we are strengthening the real enemies out there who truly want to harm us.  Everybody grow up.  Both my parents went through the Great Depression, and I grew up knowing and seeing it written on their faces just how awful it was to try to live through.  Instead of arguing and namecalling while the country teeters on the egde, why not TRY, why not wait to see before condemnining, why not see what each one of us, in our little lives, can do to help???


It is cold comfort to point fingers and laugh at the "other side" when both sides are falling into the abyss that is the growing national debt, growing unemployment, plunging stock market, while still mired in wars we cannot pay for.  Discussing political ideologies, hopes, fears, and issues is great, pure scathing hate and animosity will insure more failure.  Can you all not put our beautiful country ahead of everything else, the future of our kids and grandkids, stop childish fighting, and become part of the SOLUTION instead of the PROBLEM?   Please? 


 


This will get you the information

www.operationmilitarypride.com


 


some information...

I had the privilege and honor of seeing Mother Teresa some years ago in D.C. The audience was made up of a few ordinary people and mostly political and/or media types. The woman did not mince words. She did not hesitate to tell everyone in the audience how she felt that intolerance, indifference, selfishness, materialism and consumerism, the treatment of and attitudes towards the poor, the sick, the imprisoned run rampant were things that incited people to take up arms against each other, to hate one another, etc. and that Americans might want to look a good look at themselves and give some thoughtful prayer to what part they may play in the situations they so despised. Some of the people were so moved by her that they talked to her about going to India. They wanted to work in her clinics, her hospitals, on the streets. She laughed out loud and I will never forget what she said. She said, and I quote, ** You do not have to go to another country to do God's work. Take a look around you. Man's inhumanity to man is evident everywhere. Go into your own cities and find the poor, the needy, the imprisoned, the sick, the haters with hardened hearts, whatever. They will always be with us and they are everywhere. I believe sincerely that peace is God's work, perhaps in the highest form. You think we live in peace here in this country; as Mother Teresa said, look around you. The war is but 1 faction of a very very sick society, a sick world. I was born into peace and nonviolence. I have practiced it all my life. Protests are really quite a small part of my nonviolent lifestyle. There is plenty enough hatred, violence, intolerance and indifference to keep the peacekeepers busy until the end of time, right where they live, wherever that may be.  We also unfortunately have, in this country, warmongering and war profiteering and people in power who could care less about exploiting our troops and whomever they may be fighting. War is a big money maker for some folks. I do protest here but these days it is mostly letters to the editor, letters to senators, clergy, manning phones, that sort of thing. Another thing I believe is that the Creator is the changer of hearts and minds, not men, and that prayer changes things. You asked what I did besides whine on the other board, where were my legs...you asked for it, here it is.


1. I train service dogs for the disabled. I do this for all sorts of people, some of whom happen to be veterans whose welcome home from their government is, in my opinion, nothing short of betrayal. The wonderful projects, facilities that have sprung up to help these vets are all and I mean ALL privately funded, quite a few of the dogs I train have been purchased or **sponsored** meaning covering all costs and it is quite expensive,  from the bleeding heart liberal pinko commies as you refer to us. They pay the fee, anywhere from $12,000 to $25,000 so that people who cannot afford it or whose government does not think them or their service  important enough to provide them everything they could possibly ever need can get something they desperately need. My portion of this 2-year training program is the last leg, the month where trainer, new owner and dog are put together to learn the mechanics of what they are doing together and to learn each other. At this point the dog, its care, individualized training, all vet bills have been paid for. Normally I charge for this month of training that I do one-on-one.  I have NEVER charged 1 red cent to any veteran for my services and I never will. This is one of the ways I support the troops but not the mission. You see, it can be done.


2.  I have belonged to a prayer and meditation for peace group since I was a child. If I go somewhere where I can't find one, I start one or I hook up with the Mennonites or Friends, the original civil disobeyers. We PRAY for peace, for everyone, everywhere.


3.  I work with St. Vincent de Paul (Catholic organization for the needy),


4.  I do meals on wheels (substitute only now, too busy with everything else),


5.  I go with a group of Indians to elementary schools throughout the Tampa Bay area in full regalia with drums, flutes and stories to share with them to try to give them a good honest look at indigenous people. This seems to be going over very well. We have more dates than we can actually handle. I am very proud to do this work.


Those are my legs and I have had them for a long time.  As I recall, this is our board, the L board, so I can post whatever I like and you don't have to read my posts because you always find fault with whatever I said but I will continue to **preach to the choir** as long as I feel like it because it is the liberal board and the liberals don't mind hearing about nonviolence. As Ghandi said, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. And, for further perusal, here's a bit of history on Ghandi.


After one year of a none too successful law practice (in England), Gandhi decided to accept an offer from an Indian businessman in South Africa, Dada Abdulla, to join him as a legal adviser. Unbeknown to him, this was to become an exceedingly lengthy stay, and altogether Gandhi was to stay in South Africa for over twenty years. The Indians who had been living in South Africa were without political rights, and were generally known by the derogatory name of 'coolies'. Gandhi himself came to an awareness of the frightening force and fury of European racism, and how far Indians were from being considered full human beings, when he was thrown out of a first-class railway compartment car, though he held a first-class ticket, at Pietermaritzburg. From this political awakening Gandhi was to emerge as the leader of the Indian community, and it is in South Africa that he first coined the term satyagraha to signify his theory and practice of non-violent resistance. Gandhi was to describe himself preeminently as a votary or seeker of satya (truth), which could not be attained other than through ahimsa (non-violence, love) and brahmacharya (celibacy, striving towards God). Gandhi conceived of his own life as a series of experiments to forge the use of satyagraha in such a manner as to make the oppressor and the oppressed alike recognize their common bonding and humanity: as he recognized, freedom is only freedom when it is indivisible.


Aho.


Where did this information come from?....
the Obama website? I am not trying to start a fight either, but what makes this information any more accurate than the other poster's? Who has independently verified any of it?

The only one who knows how "indoctrinated" Obama is with the Muslim religion or how much he ascribes to it, supports it or it influences him, is Barack Obama. And I think anyone who thinks differently is fooling himself/herself.

As to the United Church of Christ...it has a flagrantly racist agenda, and regardless of what he says he has to know that if he was listening to any of the sermons...Jeremiah Wright did not wake up the morning of Obama's candidacy a racist and that church did not turn racist overnight...

Don't trust Obama. I have read up about his Chicago days and ties to Daly...the most corrupt political machine in the history of this country.

Nope, don't trust him. Not a bit.
Information is the key
Ladies/gentlemen, we can go back and forth on the candidates and their character, however, as we all know candidates can and will promise anything while running for president and promises are conveniently forgotton once in office.  To find out what is in a candidate's heart, read each party's platform which is easily assessible on the internet. The platform will let you know what the candidates will be focusing on once in office. Since each candidate's economic or tax plan really cannot be tested until they are in office, look for issues that concern you morally. Regardless of which candidate wins, let's vow to be united once it is over.
I believe you get your information
from blogs.
where do you get this information?
I have not heard anything whatsoever about this - can you give me something more?
Add the URL for this information.

Your information is so ignorant.....
of the real truth that is kind of scares me.  I am afraid that this is what the U.S. has become - a nation of ignorant lemmings who cannot read the information available and refuse to believe what has been documented over and over and over again....that we have been grievously misled by this administration.  PLEASE educate yourself, study multiple world-wide news and information sources from various political genres and THEN draw your conclusions.  And I can assure you, the conclusions may be painful and they will also be startlingly different from you currently hold to be true.
For your paranoid information sm
ALL blogs track ISP numbers.  You must not post a lot of places.  It's part of the software that comes with blogging and it also allows people to be banned who create a nuisance.   Having said that, I see a whole lot of posting here and it is not being removed.   An aspersion was cast as to whether I might be another post and using another name. It's easy enough to prove.  I have my own suspicions about a lot of the posters on here.  But I keep that to myself.  You aren't going to blog anywhere that isn't monitored. 
I can't believe anyone actually compiled this information.
Things are worse than I thought.
Where did you get that information, if you don't mind....
and no pregnant 17-year-olds are involved in this question.
You have way too little time for information.
I don't know how to tell you this, but making an informed decision on how to vote is not a sound-byte proposition. The previous poster did the research for you. All you had to do is open your eyes (and your brain) and read it. There are important problems this nation faces and they have nothing whatsoever to do with pigs and lipstick. If voters do not take the time to understand what they are and vote personality over policy, they will end up getting exactly what they deserve. What makes this such a shame is that the rest of us will end up paying the price. For heaven's sake, become part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Very good information, thank you!
Music is pretty good too!
More information there if you bothered to look....
and much more recent than the Keating 5...4 of whom were democrats.
It was not a dead end. The information was there...
you just chose to ignore it, because it was not flattering to Obama. Period.
Wrong. Where the he!! do you get your information? nm
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And you have this information on WHOSE authority?
international politics and Obama are not founded in reality and merit very little comment. Why don't you stick to your wait and see mode from yesterday. Bush is in office, it IS his problem, the Russian action is aimed at Poland, Bush will likely pass on his responsibility because the only thing he knows is "whup up" and "bring it on." The only problem with that is that he has nothing left to work with after all these years in Iraq, new fronts popping up all over the place. BTW, pehaps he has his own party-bound agenda in his nonresponse which may be underpinning the recent outbreak of air space violations and bombing campaigns in three separate sovereign countries in just as many weeks...Syria, Pakistan and Iran. The old saber-rattlesnake is not going quietly into the night and does not give a second thought to what kind of destruction he leaves in his path.
that was the information I read from day one -
Okay, here are at least 4 articles that are dated before this week that show that it is for college credit and it is not required - I am sure if you need more to prove that the REQUIRED part was not just changed this week, I can find more articles that are dated before this week - let me know if you need more...

http://parentstudentloans.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/sen-obama-wants-to-link-college-tax-credit-to-community-service/

http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/10/06/News/Obama.Emphasizes.Tax.Credit.For.Community.Service-3470957.shtml

http://www.newamerica.net/blog/higher-ed-watch/2008/election-2008-obamas-taxing-college-decisions-ahead-8225

http://volokh.com/posts/1220239627.shtml
Very interesting information.

To make matters even worse, every bit of my microscopic federal "tax break" has been more than eaten up by higher state sales taxes now, and of course that will get even worse when we start to see higher prices because higher prices mean higher sales taxes.


What the government giveth (to get silly people to vote for them), the government taketh away - and a little bit extra just for good measure.


Again, what is your solution to get information out
nm
In an effort to provide some information sm
I was on vacation when the posts were made, but a friend of mine copied them and sent them to me.  They were no exactly death threats, but under a post wishing President Bush Happy Birthday, there were two posts saying something to the effect that they hoped Bush died and burned in hell.   Also, every single thing you accuse conservatives of in this long post, every SINGLE thing, has been committed on this board by liberals.  You might also notice that most of the conservative posters have stopped coming over here, something the liberal posters have not been able to do, as their drive-by postings still appear sporadically and predictably.  
If the information she has to offer upsets you this much...
....perhaps you should debate with the folks on the conservative board who will agree with you and pat you on the back.  Perhaps your anger with gt is not about her, but about you (to paraphrase the mental health folks).
She isn't supplying any information, Observor. SM
This is between gt and I and several other posters who she is telling we should not be concerned with something that seems to be more important to us that her.  Excuse me, but how dare she!   In fact, I have had many conversations with liberals on the conservative board.  You might want to check that out.  The rest of your post isn't worth addressing.  If someone doesn't agree with you, they are either lying, have a mental problem, are uninformed, or have an anger problem.  That speaks for itself.
No, the administrator is not giving me any information, nor would I ask. sm
I made a rejoiner when you once again accused me of something I didn't do (see above posts).  Have you got all the meat off this bone yet!
I had thought that such information was not available to the public.
This is a privacy issue, and therefore an ethical issue.  If such personal information as ISP numbers are freely availale to other posters on this board I would no longer wish to post here. And if this is the case it needs to be posted.
Do you have inside information on IP addresses!!! How is that possible!!!

What is going on here!   I can't believe this!!!!! 


Sound familiar?


I have no inside information. That's my point.
None of us speak for all of us.
Do you really rely on information from the Daily Kos?
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