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Right.....and the "guilty" ones are gonna come forth! Right?!

Posted By: Pleeeeze!! NM on 2009-06-22
In Reply to: Noone is suggesting that we release ALL of them...(sm) - Just the big bad

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im not gonna lie...
I haven't seen the other sides families!
Only Michelle actually, and she really rubs me the wrong way, but I like Obama!
So, what's everyone gonna do with their
big $13 a week?
gonna watch it
Im gonna watch the comet explode.  I think its Sunday night.  Gotta check..however, whenever it is, I will be out there watching my beautiful uncluttered unsmogged desert sky.
change is gonna come
I gotta tell ya, I dont believe it is true.  I live in an extremely republican conservative bible belt air force area (what the heck am I doing here..smile) and the democrat party through the 1990s was doing okay but the republican party sure was flourishing.  I have seen through the 2000s the democratic party has grown quite a bit and more people moving into this rural area are signing on to the democratic party.  We also have a lot of unions here, Farm Workers and such as this is a major area where immigrant workers pick crop year round.  Well, the unions have pushed for the democratic party and its working.  This reminds me of the 1990s with Newt Gingrich, he was gonna change America.  Well he is no where now.  Americans might be apolitical most of the time but when they get fed up, they get fed up and they vote their frustration and with this administration, there is so much distrust, knowlege that Bush lied about war and our brave military has paid the price, the deficit will affect my children and my childrens children, the policies he has passed do not benefit me or the working class, only the corporations.  Change is gonna come..its frustrating waiting for the change but its gonna come.
I'm gonna vote for sure
I already know who I am voting for for pres, but I am still on the fence for congress/senate. Thanks for the info.
Well of course they will......you think they gonna blame
@
You ain't gonna like losing.
Found this on another political message board and thought it might be an interesting read here. I know we don't all hold the same opinions on the war and on President Bush, but take a couple of minutes to read this and give it some thought.

This is from: 'You ain't gonna like losing.'

Author unknown.

President Bush did make a bad mistake in the war on
terrorism. But the mistake was not his decision to go to
war in Iraq . Bush's mistake came in his belief that
this country is the same one his father fought for in WWII.
It is not.

Back then, they had just come out of a vicious depression.
The country was steeled by the hardship of that depression,
but they still believed fervently in this country. They knew
that the people had elected their leaders, so it was the
people's duty to back those leaders.

Therefore, when the war broke out the people came together,
rallied behind, and stuck with their leaders, whether they
had voted for them or not or whether the war was going
badly or not.

And war was just as distasteful and the anguish just as
great then as it is today. Often there were more casualties
in one day in WWII than we have had in the entire Iraq war.
But that did not matter. The people stuck with the
President because it was their patriotic duty. Americans
put aside their differences in WWII and worked together to
win that war.

Everyone from every strata of society, from young to old
pitched in. Small children pulled little wagons around to
gather scrap metal for the war effort. Grade school
students saved their pennies to buy stamps for war bonds to
help the effort.

Men who were too old or medically 4F lied about their age
or condition trying their best to join the military.

Women doubled their work to keep things going at home. Harsh rationing of everything from gasoline to soap, to
butter was imposed, yet there was very little complaining.

You never heard prominent people on the radio belittling
the President. Interestingly enough in those days there
were no fat cat actors and entertainers who ran off to
visit and fawn over dictators of hostile countries and
complain to them about our President. Instead, they made
upbeat films and entertained our troops to help the
troops' morale. And a bunch even enlisted.

And imagine this: Teachers in schools actually started the
day off with a Pledge of Allegiance, and with prayers for
our country and our troops!

Back then, no newspaper would have dared point out certain
weak spots in our cities where bombs could be set off to
cause the maximum damage. No newspaper would have dared
complain about what we were doing to catch spies.. A
newspaper would have been laughed out of existence if it
had complaine d that German or Japanese soldiers were being
'tortured' by being forced to wear women's
underwear, or subjected to interrogation by a woman, or
being scared by a dog or did not have air conditioning.

There were a lot of things different back then. We were not
subjected to a constant bombardment of pornography,
perversion and promiscuity in movies or on radio. We did
not have legions of crack heads, dope pushers and armed
gangs roaming our streets.

No, President Bush did not make a mistake in his handling
of terrorism. He made the mistake of believing that we
still had the courage and fortitude of our fathers. He
believed that this was still the country that our fathers
fought so dearly to preserve.

It is not the same country. It is now a cross between
Sodom and Gomorra and the land of Oz. We did unite for a
short while after 9/11, but our attitude changed when we
found out that defending our country would require some sacrifices.

We are in great danger. The terrorists are fanatic
Muslims. They believe that it is okay, even their duty, to
kill anyone who will not convert to Islam. It has been
estimated that about one third or over three hundred
million Muslims are sympathetic to the terrorists cause...
Hitler and Tojo combined did not have nearly that many
potential recruits. So... We either win it - or lose it -
and you ain't gonna like losing.

America is not at war. The military is at war.

America is at the mall, or watching the movie stars.

(Remember Obama said in his book 'Audacity of
Hope', 'I will stand with the Muslims should the
political winds shift in an ugly direction'.....what
better place for the Muslims to control our country, than
in the office of the President of USA .
If you think all that's gonna end after the election,
.
Vie, Vie, Vie ahhh what are we gonna do with u?
honey, you were the OP (that means Original Poster) to this thread.  You are the same Vie right that posted the OP (that means original post) ?  Because there could be another Vie out there trying to make you look bad.  Not that you need much help.
Well, who is he gonna invite?
nm
not even gonna argue
i KNOW i have way more on you

But I would really like you to point out how i have spewed hatred in a racism form? That offends me like nothing else and I think you should apologize. You can flame me for politics or whatever else, but to call me racist is the most vile disgusting inappropriate thing to say to someone like me, you dont know my past or my present and you have no idea what that could mean to someone like me so why dont you take it upon yourself to apologize for that nasty comment about me being racist. That is shameful and hurtful.
not that i really expect people like you to care.

And on a side note, my man knows everything about me!
and you think Obama is gonna sm
bring all the jobs back to the US? You are living in a rose colored world my dear! You will see when it all hits the fan and then it will be too late. BTW, I have much right to the conversation as anyone else.
Then looks like your gonna be weeping
As more and more states start to adopt gay marriage. To be able to give the opportunity for two people who love each other to be able to take vows and commit their lives to each other, well you can sit and weep about it because whether you want to believe it or not their vows will be taken in the sight and blessings of God (or whichever deity anyone believes in).

The vows clearly state...

"we are gathered here in the sight of God and in the presence of these witnesses, to join ___________ and ___________ in holy matrimony"

and

"which is an honorable estate, instituted of God in the time of man's innocence, signifying to us the mystical union which is between Christ and His Church" (glad it doesn't say between Patty and her church, it says between Christ and His Church).

and

Into which holy estate ___________ and ___________ come now to be joined and to unite two hearts and lives, blending all interest, sympathies, and hopes. I charge and entreat you, therefore, in entering upon and sustaining this hallowed union, to seek the favor and blessing of Him whose favor is life, whose blessing maketh rich and addeth no sorrow. Let us now seek His blessing."

and

Our Heavenly Father, we beseech Thee to come by Thy grace to this marriage. Give to these who marry a due sense of the obligations they are now to assume, so that with true intent, and with utter unreserve of love, they may plight their troth, and be henceforth helps, meet for each other while they journey through life. This we ask in Jesus' name. Amen.

So...just because you don't approve of gay marriage and you don't think it's a reality doesn't make it the truth. The reality is people take their vows in the sight of God and God loves everyone. Nobody needs you or anyone to approve of it or not. They will be legally married with a marriage license and all. Whether you think it's reality or not is of such little importance. The two people devoting their lives to each other in the sight of God believe it is important, and they will finally be afforded a human right which should have never been kept from them to begin with. I for one am very happy and will push whatever is necessary to get it approved in our state.

As for your viewpoints, yeah the asylum is right and it's best just to ignore you completely.
Oh there is gonna be one religion and sm
one world leader for all some day and it will be forced upon you. At that time you won't like it either. But,the Christians won't be here any longer. Wish you would reconsider, you don't want to go through that period.
yes, it's gonna be ugly, especially if
Hezbullah wins in Lebanon.
LOL I thought you were gonna go out of your gourd!
LOL
Well, you're probably gonna need it worse
Because after you see your paycheck dry up to support the "entitled" in your town, you will be so anal, you will need one.
Not gonna bother. your posts are way too
X
He THINKS he's gonna take guns away..
the NRA is one of, if not the most, powerful lobbying organizations in the nation. Don't think many would stand for that.
It absolutely should not count -- if she's gonna

she should at least have to live through the havoc he's gonna create like the rest of us. 


I'd say the same about anyone who dies after they cast their vote but before the election.  It shouldn't count.  Where's the accountability?


Just Me -- we're all gonna see that big pile
 I think I'd better start drinking now!!!
Well, change is what you're gonna get with O BUT.......
that's ALL you will have in your pocket when he gets done. You should research the internet about his plans to use children to snitch out naysayers - Hitlerish-sounding to me. Of course, as usual you won't hear or see any of the REAL things that he has planned with the regular media...surprised? No 'cause they were behind him all the way. And the economy? Well, I see this morning that he WILL bail out the Big 3 Automakers - after all, they gave him big bucks to win so he'll have to pay them back - while you and I go broke from tax burdens!
Remember he said it was gonna get worse before it
this whole economy and wall street/bank failure to come about. It's going to take even longer to put it back together again. There are no sure things or quick fixes for this, it's going to take time. All we can do as individuals is ride it out the best we can.
and next you're gonna probably tell us you've never
Pffft!
If you liked that, you're gonna love this...(sm)

And this is just for sex offenders....LOL.  I think my favorite is the last one.


 Republican sex offender & former Regent University law school assistant dean Stephen L. McPherson, who was indicted June 7, 2008 on 13 felony sexual assault charges involving two girls, has entered a guilty plea to two counts of forcible sodomy and two counts of object sexual penetration. He is set to be sentenced May 22. There was no agreement on a potential sentence, except that prosecutors will recommend a cap of 18 years and six months.



  • Republican sex offender and former North Country assemblyman and current state Parole Board member, George "Chris" Ortloff, 61, was arrested on Monday, Oct. 13, 2008 on federal charges that he used the Internet to solicit sex with minors. He was arrested following a sting operation at a Colonie motel and had allegedly arranged for a date with a minor he met on the Internet. '' The New York Post reports that he had child pornography and sex paraphernalia in his possession when he was arrested. State Police reportedly searched Ortloff'''s home in Plattsburgh and a computer had been seized from his Lake Placid real estate office, officials said. Ortloff, married with two sons, retired from the Assembly in 2006 having represented the 110 th District. '' He was appointed to the part-time position on the Parole Board, a six year term which expires in 2012, a position paying him $102,000 a year.

    • Republican sex offender & Missouri State Rep. Scott Muschany, (R)-Frontenac, was indicted today, Aug 6, 2008, in connection with a reported sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl on May 17, the day after this year’s Legislative session ended. The alleged victim is the daughter of a state employee. The girl’s mother and Muschany, a married father of 2 children, were romantically involved, the woman said. (Aren't "Family Values" a wonderful thing?) In a morbid twist of irony, Muschany was a co-sponsor of legislation that toughened sex offender laws in 2006. According to his legislative biography, Muschany and his wife were licensed as foster parents with the Division of Family Services.

      • Republican sex offender & longtime stalwart Republican operative Peter Hong was arrested July 23, 2008 for solicitation of prostitution. Police spokesman Peter Panos said that the arrest came during the first day of a two-day sting operation during which "johns" and prostitutes responded to ads placed on the Internet and in print. Thirty-five people were arrested Wednesday and Thursday, Panos said today.

        • Republican sex offender & candidate for Mineral County (W.Va.) Commission Wilton Frederick Bland, 30, of Bayberry Place, was arrested March 23, 2007, after police received a complaint concerning a juvenile boy who said Bland had wanted him to appear nude on the Internet. Bland charged last year with 136 counts related to sexually based crimes against children has been sentenced to a possible total of 85 years after pleading guilty in both Grant and Mineral counties. was charged at the time with 73 counts of possession of child pornography, 45 counts of sexual assault in the first degree for allegedly having sex with a child under age 11, nine counts of use of obscene matter with intent to seduce a minor, seven counts of display of obscene matter to a minor and two counts of employing a minor to do sexually explicit conduct, according to the West Virginia State Police.

          • Republican Delegate Robert McKee, known as an advocate for children's rights, is the focus of a child pornography investigation after officers searched his Hagerstown, MD home. McKee is not facing any charges right now, but as of today, Feb 15, 2008, he has resigned his position as both a state delegate and as executive director of the Big Brothers Big Sisters Club of Washington County. In a statement, McKee said he is entering treatment to, "get well and stay well." Shock waves echoed through Hagerstown, as the news that he was being investigated for child pornography spread like wildfire.
            **We will be keeping an eye on this story for further developments** ***UPDATE*** - Robert Mckee entered a guilty plea of possessing child porn on September 6, 2008. He was sentenced to 3 years in prison on November 21, 2008. McKee's journals document that he simultaneously printed images of child pornography from the Internet and printed stories describing sexual acts between young boys and other young boys or adult men. Someone from McKee's home called the Washington County Sheriff's Department to tip off authorities and provided them with printed images from a computer.


            • Republican sex offender & Department of Children & Families press secretary AL Zimmerman, 40, was arrested Friday, Feb 1, 2008 and charged with eight felony charges of using a child in a sexual performance. According to an arrest report, Zimmerman offered two teens money in exchange for photographing them in sexual acts. The victims were ages 16 and 17 at the time of the crime, and at least one may have been in the care of DCF at one point, according to the report. Authorities believe some of the images date back to December 2005, the arrest report showed. Zimmerman is suspected of taking photos as recently as Friday, the report showed.

              • The Republican Mayor, who is also the Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins Missouri, a town in St. Clair County, is accused of trying to convince someone whom he thought was a teenage girl to meet him for sex. Diamond police say Allen D Kauffman is charged in Newton County with four counts of enticement of a child after an online investigation that began in mid-November.
                Diamond Police Detective Jim Murray says he posed as a 13-year-old girl named Cindy and was approached by a man who used the screen name duke dukeadk on Nov. 15 about noon in an online chat room.
                Murray says Kauffman discussed meeting her to take nude photos and to have sex. Over the course of seven conversations during the past two months, transcripts show each chat was sexually graphic. Murray say Kauffman recognized the girl’s age, and even showed some hesitation, teasing the girl about whether she could be a cop.
                Police say Kauffman repeatedly asked the girl to use a webcam, and didn't wait long to use his. The detective saved some photos from a webcam on Kauffman's computer in his home in Collins.


                • Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman, 37, of Allouez, Wisconsin was charged last month with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child for allegedly fondling a 16-year-old Ethan House runaway and providing the boy with beer and marijuana late last year.

                  • Republican U.S. Justice Department official John David R. Atchison, 53, an assistant U.S. attorney from the northern district of Florida, has been arrested on suspicion of traveling to Detroit over the weekend to have sex with a 5 year old child. An undercover officer posed as a mother offering her child to Atchison for sex, according to police. In deposition, detectives said Atchison suggested the mother tell her daughter that "you found her a sweet boyfriend who will bring her presents." The undercover detective expressed concern about physical injury to the 5-year-old girl as a result of the sexual activity. Detectives said Atchison responded, " I am always gentle and loving; not to worry, no damage ever, no rough stuff ever. I only like it soft and nice." The undercover detective asked how Atchison can be certain of no injury. He responded, "Just gotta go slow and very easy. I've done it plenty," according to detectives.
                    **UPDATE: John Atchison has killed himself. Detroit police confirmed Atchison's suicide death at 10:14 a.m. Friday, Oct. 5, 2007. Good riddance, scumbag!


                    • Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.

                      • Republican Homeland Security deputy press secretary Brian J. Doyle , 55, was arrested Tuesday night, April 4, 2006 and charged with trying to "seduce'' a 14-year-old Polk County girl with graphic talk over the Internet. On March 12, Doyle contacted a 14-year-old girl whose profile was posted on an AOL Web site, according to the Sheriff's Office release. Initially, detectives thought Doyle was posing as someone working for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. But they soon learned otherwise when he sent a picture to the girl over the Internet wearing an official ``DHS tag'', Judd said.

                        • The former head of the Michigan Federation of Young Republicans, Michael Flory, admitted Tuesday that he sexually abused a colleague during a national convention in Cleveland last summer

                          • Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.

                            • Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.

                              • Republican Township Supervisor Robert Holland stepped down amid accusations that he sexually assaulted a 92-year-old nursing home resident in 2006. Holland, a 77-year-old Republican, pleaded guilty to aggravated indecent assault and related charges and is now serving a two- to four-year prison sentence in Bucks County.

                                • Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.

                                  • Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.

                                    • Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.

                                      • Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.

                                        • Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

                                          • Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

                                            • Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

                                              • Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

                                                • Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

                                                  • Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

                                                    • Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

                                                      • Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

                                                        • Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.

                                                          • Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

                                                            • Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

                                                              • Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

                                                                • Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.

                                                                  • Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

                                                                    • Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

                                                                      • Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

                                                                        • Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

                                                                          • Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

                                                                            • Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

                                                                              • Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

                                                                                • Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

                                                                                  • Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

                                                                                    • Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

                                                                                      • Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

                                                                                        • Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

                                                                                          • Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

                                                                                            • Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

                                                                                              • Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

                                                                                                • Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

                                                                                                  • Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

                                                                                                    • Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.

                                                                                                      • Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

                                                                                                        • Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her 2 children by strapping them in their car seats and plunging them into a lake in South Carolina and blamed it on a black man. Beverly Russell admitted abusing Smith when she was 15 and continuing an incestuous relationship with her until shortly before she drowned her children in John D. Long Lake.

                                                                                                          • Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.

                                                                                                            • Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

                                                                                                              • Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

                                                                                                                • Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

                                                                                                                  • Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

                                                                                                                    • Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.


                                                                                                                      • Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.


                                                                                                                        • Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.


                                                                                                                          • Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

                                                                                                                            • Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

                                                                                                                              • Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

                                                                                                                                • Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.


                                                                                                                                  • Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).


                                                                                                                                    • Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

                                                                                                                                      • Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

                                                                                                                                        • Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

                                                                                                                                          • Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

                                                                                                                                            • Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

                                                                                                                                              • Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

                                                                                                                                                • Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

                                                                                                                                                  • Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

                                                                                                                                                    • Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

                                                                                                                                                      • Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

                                                                                                                                                        • Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

                                                                                                                                                          • Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

                                                                                                                                                            • Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.

                                                                                                                                                              • Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

                                                                                                                                                                • Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

                                                                                                                                                                  • Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

                                                                                                                                                                    • Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.

                                                                                                                                                                    • Sorry that don't cut it and as they say "it aint gonna fly"
                                                                                                                                                                      Blaming Bush for the trillions that the O is spending??? Excuse me, but the O way outdid anything Bush did in 8 years, it took the O less than 90 days to make it triple worse. You didn't like that Bush spent money, but your okay with the O spending triple the deficit Bush had????? That is not Bush's fault and sorry but that "aint gonna fly".

                                                                                                                                                                      No they are not trying to "frantically keep us from another great depression". How does giving money to CEO/executives, authorizing millions upon millions in bonuses (then trying to take it back when they hear Americans are not happy - they (the crats) are the ones who authorized it to begin with). Then there is bailing out companies and not enforcing them to use the money to help the company but instead they pocket it and ask for another bailout and they give it to them again, and saying we're giving money to the American banks but instead having it go oversees to bail out other countries banks, and letting our jobs go overseas and telling the people that they are giving the jobs to "oh well those are jobs that Americans don't want anyway". How does drafting kids 18-24, bowing to the S.A. King then lying to us about it, telling other country we are not a great country, but Americans are selfish and irresponsible (among other things he has said), and the other things he has done to destroy our country and who knows what he has told our enemies about us. Not to mention the lies he told us during the campaign like how he was going to pull the troops home, but instead he is sending more to war (a war that he said was "unjust"), how he was going to not increases taxes for people making under 250K, I mean 200K, I mean 175K, I mean 150K. Then we have the FM/FM situation which was caused by the crats in the congress (B. Franks, C. Dodd, etc) and they are the ones who benefited the most, along with your lord the anointed one, which by the way began long before Bush got in there. It started in the Clinton presidency. Lets see...there was how he was going get rid of the patriot act, yet he signed it and it's even worse than when Bush was in. How he was going to tax only the 1% wealthiest, yet my taxes are going up (and I'm by far no where near $150K mark) along with other people who are making around what I make, yet his wealthiest few friends (those 1%) are not paying taxes, and his cabinet is filled with people who don't pay their taxes but that's okay, and he promises change but he fills his cabinet with left-wing Clintonites (no change there). The only changes we the people are seeing are more companies laying off, more people losing houses, more jobs going overseas, etc, etc. He boasted of being the only one to be able to bring the two party's together (you know that nonpartisonship thing), yet there is no equality. He has chosen what...2 or 3 republicans in his cabinet (and yet they vote more democrat than republican). The rest are crat stooges that don't know what they are doing. Uh, tell me, how is all that going to keep us from a depression. And sorry you don't get to use the "This is all Bush's fault" excuse. That aint gonna fly anymore. You cannot blame Bush for the depression the messiah is putting us in. I'm hoping next time the idjits will remember the damage the anointed one and the crats are doing to destroy our country and vote sensibly. I'm hoping a third party will emerge from all this destruction and work for the people. There is no difference between the crat/pubs they all work for themselves. We need real leaders who will work for the people of the country, get us out of this recession/depression, re-establish our once was great nation, and restore credibility to our country. It's not in either parties that are currently in there that's for sure. So, once again, sorry, but the "It's all Bush's fault" is lame and not true. This is all the anointed one's fault and nobody can take that away from him. He didn't have to do this. He could have said no, but he didn't. He could have said I'm going to live up to my campaign promises of transparency and no pork in the spending bill. I need time to read through this. I'm going to get some top economists on this and look it over and get some advice from them. No instead he listens to unqualified people who are only out for themselves. So, sorry but no you don't get to use the "it's all Bush's fault" excuse anymore.
                                                                                                                                                                      Then what are ya gonna do about the dems turning
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                                                                                                                                                                      Not gonna change a liberals mind

                                                                                                                                                                      I don't think Wounded Knee is anything to be proud of. 


                                                                                                                                                                      The above is what the poster posted.  I disagreed and posted about the horrors we did to Indians in our past.  Much worse than Wounded Knee.  That is all.  It is you who jump on everything liberals post, especially me.  I need to remind you, once again, this is the liberal board..if it is causing you angina or if Im blowing your mind, then dont read the posts.  A liberal board is gonna have people who are antiwar and no matter how hard you try, you will not change a liberal persons mind.  You have your beliefs, good.  I would never try to change your beliefs.  Im glad you have strong opinions on America, life, war, etc., more power to you.  I too have strong opinions and no matter how much you attack, call me and others names, you arent gonna change anyones mind, your are just gonna alienate.  Maybe if you acted a little nicer sometimes, I would and so would others..but I gotta tell ya, my history with you and posting here, all I have ever gotten from you is hate filled posts attacking my posts and attacking me personally..So when I see you responding, I automatically think, oh oh, Im in for an attack.  You can get more bees with honey.


                                                                                                                                                                      It aint gonna happen - it's over for her - period!!!
                                                                                                                                                                      Do you really want to live under a socialist dictator. If so I think you are in the wrong country. I think there is plenty of room in Cuba or other socialists/communist countries.

                                                                                                                                                                      Let it rest. She is not going to be president and she is not going to be VP - Even Palosi (sp?) said it's not a good idea. I trust her judgment more than Hillary's and the other feminists pushing for her. Besides...that is just what Obama needs...someone with their hand on the assassination button only too happy to push the button so that she can finally sleeze herself into the seat.

                                                                                                                                                                      Even the top democrats who kept pushing and pushing for her to be the nominee last night started saying what in the world is going on? Why isn't she conceding? Why isn't she congratulating Barack? Why is she being announced by Terry McAulife as the next president when all votes have been counted and she lost and they know it? Have they totally lost their mind?????

                                                                                                                                                                      She has no decent characterists about her. Everything is "me, me, me". Not once whenever Barack won a state did she congratulate him, yet everytime she won a state he congratulated her. Now she's giving a speech last night, does not mention the enormous victory this country has finally having a person of color (even though he's half white) win the nomination. Come on - that is a huge victory! And lastly she says "Thank you South Dakota, you had the last word" when Montana's voting booths had not even closed. Oh, which just so happened to be in Barack's favor (oh lets just forget them, their votes don't count because they didn't vote for me). She's a disgrace to the human race! Moreover she's a disgrace to all women!
                                                                                                                                                                      Gonna go to Alaska if McPain wins and
                                                                                                                                                                      let a polar bear have me as his last meal.....
                                                                                                                                                                      Are you gonna foot the bill? The welfare?
                                                                                                                                                                      You don't want to pay more taxes remember?  You're for McCain right?  You don't want Obama's programs or spending, but you want the child protected.  Are you gonna clothe and feed that child?  If not, then who????????????
                                                                                                                                                                      Aint gonna happen (no message)
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                                                                                                                                                                      I think they're gonna squander all of it. They've
                                                                                                                                                                      in terms of ridiculously high bonuses to do-nothing CEOs, glitzy parties, private jets, etc. Recently one of the bailed-out companies rented San Francisco's brand-new Museum Of Natural History, and threw a posh party there. I think the bailout just rewards failure, instead of allowing all those dufuses to learn from their mistakes. In the end, it will only benefit big business, but it won't do a thing for regular working people, especially if the so-called jobs created by bailing these companies out have low pay, little or no benefits, etc. Or worse, the jobs they create get offered to those living in India.
                                                                                                                                                                      Tuesday night San Francisco's sure gonna
                                                                                                                                                                      As will Berkeley, Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Diego, Palm Springs, Lake Tahoe, Redding, Ukiah, Bakersfield, Vallejo, Fairfield, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Pasadena, Atascadero, Yreka, Arcata, Napa, Santa Rosa, Calistoga, Roseville, Elk Grove, Grass Valley, Nevada City, Truckee, Susanville, Sausalito, Tujunga, Topanga, Riverside, El Cajon, Venice Beach, Hollywood, Santa Monica, Monterey, Santa Cruz, Daly City, San Jose, Livermore, Malibu, Simi Valley, Ojai, Los Gatos, Fremont, Williams, Weed, Red Bluff, Lincoln, Placerville, Volcano, San Andreas, and yes, even Pumpkin Center.

                                                                                                                                                                      In the streets, dancin' the night away!
                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah, war is just gonna stop, POOF! No more war!
                                                                                                                                                                      Are you really this naive?
                                                                                                                                                                      Cool. Sounds like he's gonna be tough.
                                                                                                                                                                      Hope he doesn't put more goofballs in though. When a party turns on it's own candidates, there's definitely something wrong with it.
                                                                                                                                                                      I agree with your analysis. It's gonna be ugly, especially if
                                                                                                                                                                      Hezbullah wins in Lebanon.
                                                                                                                                                                      Oopphhs..an editorial against bush..am I gonna be banned?

                                                                                                                                                                      Shockingly unprepared


                                                                                                                                                                      The countless questions about the unfolding catastrophe in the Gulf states are all variations on a simple theme: This disaster was all but scripted; why wasn't the response?

                                                                                                                                                                      News reports from the region have shown the situation getting worse, not better.

                                                                                                                                                                      This inability to regain control, or at least to rally against the disaster, has shocked the country's sense of itself. Predictably, recriminations mounted Thursday, even as federal officials delivered more aid. State and local officials in Louisiana were particularly critical of the response from Washington, complaining that the feds were slow to provide the help needed to feed and evacuate survivors and halt criminals.

                                                                                                                                                                      Defenders of the Bush administration said it was doing everything it could. They're facing problems that nobody could foresee: breaking of the levees and the whole dome thing over in New Orleans coming apart, former President George H.W. Bush said Thursday on CNN. People couldn't foresee that.

                                                                                                                                                                      In fact, emergency planners have been thinking about a catastrophic levee breach for years. Many saw it as an inevitable consequence of a high-powered hurricane such as Katrina hitting the city. And in early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency said that one of the three most likely disasters to strike the U.S. was a catastrophic flood triggered by a hurricane hitting New Orleans. (The other two: a terrorist attack on New York and a major earthquake in San Francisco.)

                                                                                                                                                                      It's certainly true that by the time forecasters knew that Katrina was a threat, it was too late to shore up the levees. And by the time they knew Katrina was going to come ashore near New Orleans, there was not enough time to evacuate the city completely.

                                                                                                                                                                      Still, much of what happened this week in New Orleans had been foreseen by federal and state emergency planners, as the city's newspaper, the Times-Picayune, laid out extensively three years ago. Survivors will end up trapped on roofs, in buildings or on high ground surrounded by water, with no means of escape and little food or fresh water, perhaps for several days, one story predicted with eerie accuracy.

                                                                                                                                                                      That's why the complaints from Louisiana about the official response are so troubling. Why did it take so long to evacuate the poor, the elderly and the tourists unlucky enough to be caught with no way out of town? Where was the food and water? Why were the police left to choose between rescuing people from the floods and saving them from predators?

                                                                                                                                                                      Critics of the administration, including former FEMA officials, say Washington's focus since late 2001 on potential terrorist targets has come at the expense of its ability to respond to natural disasters in other parts of the country. FEMA no longer helps prepare communities for disasters — it just responds to them. Other critics have pointed out that the administration diverted money from a levee project in New Orleans to fund priorities within the Department of Homeland Security.

                                                                                                                                                                      One lesson of Hurricane Katrina, though, is that preparedness and response go hand in hand, whether the disaster is natural or man-made. Washington's response to Katrina is likely to gear up notably in the days to come, but the question of why it took so long will linger longer than the floodwaters

                                                                                                                                                                      Daily Show is gonna be killer tonight :)
                                                                                                                                                                      Anybody here watch The DailyShow with Jon Stewart?
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm gonna have the big one. Human Events quoted on the L board! NM

                                                                                                                                                                      holey moley...gonna have to put research in overdrive.
                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks for posting.
                                                                                                                                                                      nice... i think im gonna post it on my myspace page!
                                                                                                                                                                      this election is soooo important!
                                                                                                                                                                      If you lose your ability to work, you're gonna need it

                                                                                                                                                                      ophs..gonna slap me down now, like you did another poster for posting the truth?
                                                                                                                                                                      God ''Unhappy'' With Hurricane Response, Congressman Says
                                                                                                                                                                      Susan Jones

                                                                                                                                                                      Senior Editor

                                                                                                                                                                      (CNSNews.com) - Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) joined the Congressional Black Caucus Friday in blasting the Bush administration's response to the Gulf Coast hurricane disaster.

                                                                                                                                                                      We cannot allow it to be said that the difference between those who lived and those who died in this great storm and flood of 2005 was nothing more than poverty, age or skin color, Cummings said.

                                                                                                                                                                      He disagreed with administration assurances that the president is moving as fast as he can to get the relief effort mobilized.

                                                                                                                                                                      The government needs help, Rep. Cummings said - and he wants it to come from the private sector.






                                                                                                                                                                      We have long heard claims of compassionate conservatism among out nation's leaders. We now want the compassion. This is a time for those with welfare resources to step up to the plate and demonstrate that compassion. This is a time to save human lives. People are dying because they have no water - have no water in America!

                                                                                                                                                                      Cummings said companies that bottle water now have the power to save lives, and companies that make baby formula and food must be on the front lines of the relief effort.

                                                                                                                                                                      Private contractors with helicopters and boats and buses at their disposal could put those to use in the region, he said.

                                                                                                                                                                      Cummings recited the Bible passage (Matthew 25: 37-40) in which Jesus tells his followers to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, and clothe the poor: Whatever you did for the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.

                                                                                                                                                                      To the president of the United States, I simply say that God cannot be pleased with our response, Cummings said.

                                                                                                                                                                      The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who has gone to Louisiana to help move refugees out, has criticized media reports focusing on the looting and violence in New Orleans.

                                                                                                                                                                      He's quoted as saying that some reports portrayed people as animals, but he isn't buying it. We're going to New Orleans today without a security guard, wire reports quoted Jackson as saying. We trust people.

                                                                                                                                                                      Press reports on Friday said President Bush would not touch the ground in New Orleans but would survey the damage from the air, something that his many critics may use against him in the days ahead.

                                                                                                                                                                      No, gourdpainter...it's gonna be Obama ruling....make no mistake....
                                                                                                                                                                      Obama and the democratic congress.

                                                                                                                                                                      I think it's highly doubtful Hillary will pass muster to be SOS, since Bill has too many shady dealings with China and the Saudis, and who knows who else he has taken/is taking money from, and selling our national secrets to (or did, in the case of China with our military secrets).

                                                                                                                                                                      As for Bush, don't know how you get him thrown in the equation, unless someone named Bush has been appointed....I'm working too much to pay close attention...


                                                                                                                                                                      But, as I said, make no mistake. No matter who Obama appoints, it's gonna be him and his socialist/marxist agenda....Obama and his far left agenda to the max.....


                                                                                                                                                                      I'm hiding for the next four years......
                                                                                                                                                                      Lame duck watch --you're gonna love this...(sm)
                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27831761
                                                                                                                                                                      Did you take the time to watch the clip or you just gonna rest on your laurels and lurch?
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                                                                                                                                                                      If I hear liberal garbage or biased media one more time I'm gonna
                                                                                                                                                                      puke!!!!!!  It was an interesting article, nothing more, nothing less.  Taking offense at that article is a little like gasping at straws donchathink?
                                                                                                                                                                      Yup, glad I am taking Yoga, gonna be a bumpy ride either way....(my closets are a MESS, reflects my
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