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If this man will lie about a GI bracelet, what WON'T he lie about?  Come on, y'all! Wake up!

I didn't copy the entire thing (no no, right?).  It appears that you'd have to go to the site to download it.  Keep an eye out to see if the drivebys (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, NYT, etc.) mention it.  I'm hoping they'll have no choice.  There will be a ton of crying and hand wringing beforehand, you can be sure if it ever happens at all.

(H/T D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com)

http://tinyurl.com/45q5r6
or:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/28/family-told-obama-not-wear-soldier-sons-bracelet-where-media
Family Told Obama NOT To Wear Soldier Son's Bracelet... Where is Media?
By Warner Todd Huston
September 28, 2008  

Barack Obama played the "me too" game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin.
Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son's name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family.
Radio host Glenn Moberg of the show "Route 51" asked Mr. Jopek, a man who believes in the efforts in Iraq and is not in favor of Obama's positions on the war, what he and his ex-wife think of Obama continually using their son's name on the campaign trail.
Jopek began by saying that his ex-wife was taken aback, even upset, that Obama has made the death of her son a campaign issue. Jopek says his wife gave Obama the bracelet because "she just wanted Mr. Obama to know Ryan's name." Jopek went on to say that "she wasn't looking to turn it into a big media event" and "just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself." Apparently, they were all shocked it became such a big deal.
But, he also said that his ex-wife has refused further interviews on the matter and that she wanted Obama to stop wearing the reminder of her son's sacrifice that he keeps turning into a campaign soundbyte. This begins at about 10 minutes into the radio program. (Download radio show HERE)    (H/T D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com)

Hi, GP.

I had posted this a few days ago; it's down the page somewhere, but, in true Bush style, he is taking care of his "base" right up until the end.  I apparently failed to provide the link when I posted it, but anyone interested can just Google the title below, and multiple links will pop up.

I'm thinking the "trickle up" theory is how things SHOULD be.  ALLOW the little guy at the bottom to be ABLE to afford a 1989 clunker; allow the guy who's a little above that to be ABLE to afford maybe a 2000 Chevy Cavalier, and ALLOW the guy who's standing on the next rung of the ladder upward to buy a new Mustang.  The guys who are standing at the top can still afford their Porsches and Benzes, but EVERYONE would have access to some things in life that most of us feel are essentials, not luxuries.  Probably won't be too many new American cars to buy, though, because there isn't a level playing field when it comes to "free trade."  I personally think this whole "free trade" thing should be scrapped and reinvented so that it benefits American CITIZENS and not just American EXECUTIVES.

Instead of sneaking a little "P.S." in the middle of the night like Bush did to make sure his rich criminal buddies get their bonuses, why NOT start the "trickle-up" program and make them work for their bonuses?

"Trickle down" simply doesn't work because nothing is "trickling."  The greediest at the top (Bush's base) are the ones who are benefiting, and the most needy (formerly known as the "middle class" and Obama's "base") are being stomped on BIG TIME. 

Frequently, this whole mess reminds me of the movie "Trading Places," where two rich old men play with and manipulate the lives of two people and create havoc -- all for a ONE-DOLLAR BET.  If it didn't feel and sound so familiar to what Americans are experiencing today, it might even be funny.  Instead, it feels like we're all being manipulated on a much more sinister level.

I think someone should force Bush, Cheney, Paulson and a few other "elites" on Wall Street to empty their pockets before they leave Washington, since one of the conditions of the Wall Street bailout was that it would all be done in secret, with no transparency, and no list of the recipients of what is now trillions of dollars.

I can remember my mortgage when trickle down Reaganomics was going strong.  The interest was 16-1/2%.  This is how we got here.  Time to trickle up.

Bush Administration created executive pay loophole

The Bush Administration inserted an eleventh-hour provision into the $750 billion bailout bill to protect executive bonuses, a single sentence that will torpedo efforts to reduce bonuses even as companies slash tens of thousands of jobs and use taxpayer money to gobble up other companies at fire-sale prices.

Pressured by constituents who worried that companies would take government aid and continue to pay their executives eye-popping bonuses, Congress inserted a provision that would penalize companies who took taxpayer money and shelled out outsized bonuses.

But at the last minute, Bush officials insisted on a one-sentence provision that stopped the measure in its tracks, according to congressional aides who spoke to the Washington Post.

The change stipulated that the sanction would only apply to firms that sold mortgage backed securities to the government at auction, which the Bush Treasury Department said would be the method they'd use to infuse troubled companies with bailout cash.

"Now, however, the small change looks more like a giant loophole, according to lawmakers and legal experts" who spoke to Post reporter Amit Paley. "In a reversal, the Bush administration has not used auctions for any of the $335 billion committed so far from the rescue package, nor does it plan to use them in the future. Lawmakers and legal experts say the change has effectively repealed the only enforcement mechanism in the law dealing with lavish pay for top executives."

"The flimsy executive-compensation restrictions in the original bill are now all but gone," Sen. Charles Grassley, a Republican from Iowa and ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, told Paley.

According to Paley, "The final legislation contained unprecedented restrictions on executive compensation for firms accepting money from the bailout fund. The rules limited incentives that encourage top executives to take excessive risks, provided for the recovery of bonuses based on earnings that never materialize and prohibited 'golden parachute' severance pay. But several analysts said that perhaps the most effective provision was the ban on companies deducting more than $500,000 a year from their taxable income for compensation paid to their top five executives."

This amendment to the Internal Revenue Code was the only part of the bailout measure that had an explicit enforcement mechanism.

Bush officials initially opposed executive compensation rules. Banks, in particular, had been taking heat for "golden parachute" cases, where top executives received lavish pay upon their departure even if they'd done a poor job leading their company.

It remains unclear whether the Administration ever intended to limit executive pay -- if perhaps they knew in advance that Treasury didn't intend to buy mortgage assets at auction all along -- as they'd told Congress.

Con means to deceive or mislead.  That's how they communicate, from Bush right on down to his peon worshippers.  They deceive, lie, mislead, twist, manipulate.  They do everything except speak the truth.  This is a perfect example.  You asked them above to see the post.  You didn't get a response, did you?

Now they'll just continue to troll this board with more outrageous fictional tales conceived in their tiny little minds, all for the purpose of demeaning and attacking liberals.

It's really sad, irritating and definitely bothersome, but they are their own worst enemy because they are getting more and more out of control every day.  In a way, I guess I will really be worried if it stops.  If I no longer see those angry hateful posts here, I will fear that they finally snapped in real life and either hurt someone else or got hurt themselves.

Kelsey Grammer

Gary Sinise

Stephen Baldwin

Patricia Heaton

Dennis Hopper

Craig T. Nelson

Ben Stein

Tom Sellek

Kurt Russell

Ted Nugent

Elizabeth Hasselbeck

Angie Harmon

John Ratzenberger

have afforded them the courtesy of not posting here, as has been said before.

NOT! America and the Poor...

Wednesday, September 14, 2005 By Bill O'Reilly PHOTOS VIDEO Click image to enlarge ARCHIVE SHOW INFO • America and the Poor... September 14, 2005 • Can President Bush Make A Comeback? September 13, 2005 • Feeling Sorry for O'Reilly September 09, 2005 • Government Cannot Protect Us: Part Two September 08, 2005 • What Really Happened in the Wake of Hurricane Katrina? September 07, 2005 • Keeping the Record Straight on the Katrina Story September 06, 2005 • The Politics of Katrina September 02, 2005 • The Straight Story About Katrina September 01, 2005 • Resisting Jessica's Law August 26, 2005 • Are You An Extremist? August 25, 2005 • The Bush Presidency At A Crossroads August 24, 2005 • The 'Swiftboating' of Cindy Sheehan August 23, 2005 • Demanding Justice For Jessica August 19, 2005 • How Is The USA Handling The Conflict In Iraq? August 17, 2005 • The Truth About the Cindy Sheehan Situation August 16, 2005 • The Saga of Cindy Sheehan Deepens August 11, 2005 • The Fascinating Saga Of Cindy Sheehan... August 10, 2005 • A Sad Day for America in Georgia August 09, 2005 • Is the ACLU Bin Laden's Best Ally? August 05, 2005 • Far-Left Crisis? August 04, 2005 • God vs. Science August 03, 2005 • A Tale of Two Terrorists August 02, 2005 • The Senate Slaps the ACLU July 28, 2005 • More Trouble On The Left.... July 27, 2005 • Those Who Help the Terrorists... July 26, 2005 • Let's Talk About Terror in Britain... July 25, 2005 • The Politics of Terror... July 22, 2005 • Why Judge Roberts Will Be Confirmed... July 21, 2005 • Why Do School Officials Hurt Poor Children? July 20, 2005 • Is Karl Rove a Hero? July 19, 2005 • Karl Rove vs. the Liberal Media... July 18, 2005 • It Just Can't Get Much Hotter In Aruba... July 15, 2005 • Memo to a Judge July 14, 2005 • Investigating Karl Rove July 13, 2005 • Anti-American Danger July 12, 2005 • Media Coverage of the London Bombings July 10, 2005 • Failure To Deal With The Deadly Enemy July 08, 2005 • Reaction to President Bush's Iraq Speech June 30, 2005 • On the Defensive June 28, 2005 • What you, the folks, think about Gitmo June 24, 2005 America and the poor, that is the subject of this evening's “Talking Points Memo.” The aftermath of Katrina has produced a debate over poor Americans. There are about 37 million people living below the poverty line right now. The issue was described this way by Newsweek (search) reporter Evan Thomas (search), a liberal guy but not alone, who writes, Liberals will say [the authorities] were indifferent to the plight of poor African-Americans. It is true that Katrina laid bare society's massive neglect of its least fortunate. Massive neglect? Let's take a look at that bit of overstatement. Halfway through President Clinton's tenure in office in 1996, the poverty rate was 13.7 percent. Halfway through President Bush's tenure, the rate is 12.7 percent, a full point lower. In 1996, the Clinton budget allotted $191 billion for poverty entitlements. That was 12.2 percent of the budget and a whopping amount of money. That's why Bill Clinton (search) was called the first black president by some. However, the Bush 2006 budget allots a record shattering $368 billion for poverty entitlements, 14.6 percent of the entire budget, a huge increase over Clinton's spending on poverty entitlements. ADVERTISEMENTS

Yep, they'll be back when all the Lebanese are dead, because all us conservatives are evil like that.    

I posted this on the comedy board too - its half political/half comedy.

1. The invention of beer, and

2. The invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer, and the beer to the man.

These facts formed the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals & 2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to barbeque at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hugs, the evolution of the Hollywood actor, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide all the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

 Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jack@ss.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most are social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood, and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history.......

It should be noted that a liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.

A conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers, and to more liberals...just to yank their chain.

Have a great day!

Please tell me what personal knowledge you have about gt's drinking history, if any such history actually exists.

The administrator should ban you for this kind of personal slanderous assault on a poster.

To My Conservative Brothers and Sisters,

I know you are dismayed and disheartened at the results of last week's election. You're worried that the country is heading toward a very bad place you don't want it to go. Your 12-year Republican Revolution has ended with so much yet to do, so many promises left unfulfilled. You are in a funk, and I understand.

Well, cheer up, my friends! Do not despair. I have good news for you. I, and the millions of others who are now in charge with our Democratic Congress, have a pledge we would like to make to you, a list of promises that we offer you because we value you as our fellow Americans. You deserve to know what we plan to do with our newfound power -- and, to be specific, what we will do to you and for you.

Thus, here is our Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives:

Dear Conservatives and Republicans,

I, and my fellow signatories, hereby make these promises to you:

1. We will always respect you for your conservative beliefs. We will never, ever, call you unpatriotic simply because you disagree with us. In fact, we encourage you to dissent and disagree with us.

2. We will let you marry whomever you want, even when some of us consider your behavior to be different or immoral. Who you marry is none of our business. Love and be in love -- it's a wonderful gift.

3. We will not spend your grandchildren's money on our personal whims or to enrich our friends. It's your checkbook, too, and we will balance it for you.

4. When we soon bring our sons and daughters home from Iraq, we will bring your sons and daughters home, too. They deserve to live. We promise never to send your kids off to war based on either a mistake or a lie.

5. When we make America the last Western democracy to have universal health coverage, and all Americans are able to get help when they fall ill, we promise that you, too, will be able to see a doctor, regardless of your ability to pay. And when stem cell research delivers treatments and cures for diseases that affect you and your loved ones, we'll make sure those advances are available to you and your family, too.

6. Even though you have opposed environmental regulation, when we clean up our air and water, we, the Democratic majority, will let you, too, breathe the cleaner air and drink the purer water.

7. Should a mass murderer ever kill 3,000 people on our soil, we will devote every single resource to tracking him down and bringing him to justice. Immediately. We will protect you.

8. We will never stick our nose in your bedroom or your womb. What you do there as consenting adults is your business. We will continue to count your age from the moment you were born, not the moment you were conceived.

9. We will not take away your hunting guns. If you need an automatic weapon or a handgun to kill a bird or a deer, then you really aren't much of a hunter and you should, perhaps, pick up another sport. We will make our streets and schools as free as we can from these weapons and we will protect your children just as we would protect ours.

10. When we raise the minimum wage, we will pay you -- and your employees -- that new wage, too. When women are finally paid what men make, we will pay conservative women that wage, too.

11. We will respect your religious beliefs, even when you don't put those beliefs into practice. In fact, we will actively seek to promote your most radical religious beliefs (Blessed are the poor, Blessed are the peacemakers, Love your enemies, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God, and Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.). We will let people in other countries know that God doesn't just bless America, he blesses everyone. We will discourage religious intolerance and fanaticism -- starting with the fanaticism here at home, thus setting a good example for the rest of the world.

12. We will not tolerate politicians who are corrupt and who are bought and paid for by the rich. We will go after any elected leader who puts him or herself ahead of the people. And we promise you we will go after the corrupt politicians on our side FIRST. If we fail to do this, we need you to call us on it. Simply because we are in power does not give us the right to turn our heads the other way when our party goes astray. Please perform this important duty as the loyal opposition.

I promise all of the above to you because this is your country, too. You are every bit as American as we are. We are all in this together. We sink or swim as one. Thank you for your years of service to this country and for giving us the opportunity to see if we can make things a bit better for our 300 million fellow Americans -- and for the rest of the world.

Signed,

Michael Moore