Tea parties vs the million man march

All this controversy over the number in attendance af last week's tea parties, and who was there!  I would think over a quarter-million participants would rank right up there as far as demonstration statistics go.

There was another demonstration in 1995 which planned to attact a million demonstators.  Wikipedia has this:

......... Finally, within the first twenty-four hours following the March a conflict between March organizers and Park Service officials erupted over crowd size estimates. Initially, the National Park Service issued an estimate of about 400,000 attendees; a number significantly lower than March organizers had hoped for. After a heated exchange between leaders of the March and Park Services the estimate was raised to 850,000*  but still fell short of the organizers’ estimate of over 1 million. The controversy over the number of men who actually participated in the March has yet to be firmly resolved.  *[guess they were getting the 2 for 1 special?] 

Even back then, folks were hollering 'recount,'  I don't recall seeing any female or white faces in that crowd, either. I think that was pretty sexist and racist.  The point is, you hang with like-minded individuals.  Nobody put out the 'whites only' sign at the tea parties.  It was equal opportunity, and if you were a hard-working black business owner you might have been there.

• Tea parties vs the million man march - Researcher
  • Like James Carvell (sp?) said, most of the people there - Hmmm
    • What does it tell you, - Mythbuster
      • That Republicans who preach the most to everyone - else can't spell?
      • I knew nothing about it at all until that very day - Hmmm
        • I rest my case. - Mythbuster
          • Guess overall just not that newsworthy. NM - Hmm
            • Said the ostrich with its head in the sand. - ctmt
            • Nah, just that 'vast left-wing conspiracy' thing - Mythbuster
    • It's Carville. - Researcher
      • Knew such smart people here could just get by with (sp?) and guess what? - Hmmm
        • I think you missed the mark again - Mythbuster
          • Meant what I put - Hmmm
        • Hey, I gave you a pass on - Researcher
          • Doing spell checking on others can get you thrown off - Hmmm
    • Yeah, those horrible signs - Researcher
    • I will give you this.... - Trigger Happy
    • Horrible signs were stating - TRUE FACTS. No message
      • This is what a hate mongers looks like - Unbelievable
        • Really? Which were the hate-monging signs - and please - be specific.
        • Strange, I did not see any of them - MTfromLA
      • Truth? You're delusional if those think those hateful . . . - sm
        • you don't follow politics/economic very closely then - no-aid drinker
        • But it was okay to portray George Bush as Hitler? - Zville MT
          • I saw the same thing with Obama, comparison to Hitler - Hmm
        • 'Rob from the rich, - Just an observer
  • Good point, good post. Thanks. - nm

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I found and joined resistnet.com because I love my country.  It is a very sad, sad day to see it marching towards marxism/socialism, which has failed in every country it has been tried. 

Do you love this country?  Does the blood shed for our freedoms still matter to you?  If so, then please take a moment and join the "We the People" March on Washington DC.  This group is a grassroots planning and organizing effort to put on a peaceful demonstration on May 30, 2009. We are looking for conservatives to join us and assist us in preserving our Consitution and holding our elected officials accountable to the oath of office they have sworn to. We need you to join us and get involved on the State level marches that will also be held across the country.  Every state is participating!

Don't you think it's time we fire any elected official who doesn't uphold, protect, and preserve our 'We the People's" Constitution?

Please join us and invite your friends and families also.

http://www.resistnet.com/group/wethepeoplemarchonwashington

See link for entire article.

Meanwhile, Tuesday, Officials said insurgents were trying to deepen the political turmoil surrounding the contested vote. Preliminary figures have given a big lead to the religious Shiite bloc that controls the current interim government.

The new violence came as three opposition groups threatened a wave of protests and civil disobedience if fraud charges are not properly investigated. The warning came from the secular Iraqi National List, headed by former Shiite Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, and two Sunni Arab groups.

More than 10,000 people, some carrying photos of Allawi, demonstrated Tuesday in favor of a government that would give more power to Sunni Arabs and secular Shiites. Marches chanted No Sunnis, no Shiites, yes for national unity.

We're protesting to reject the elections fraud. We want to ask the government and the elections commission: 'Where did our votes go? Who stole them?' said Abdul Hamid Abdul Razzaq, a 45-year-old barber who attended the massive protest.

A similar protest in Baqouba ended with arrests. Police rounded up several people — most of them high school students — and took them into custody, Donelan reports.

Iraq's Electoral Commission said Monday that final results for the 275-seat parliament could be released in about a week.

Sunni Arab and secular Shiite factions are demanding that an international body review more than 1,500 complaints, warning they may boycott the new legislature. They also want new elections in some provinces, including Baghdad. The United Nations has rejected an outside review.

We will resort to peaceful options, including protests, civil disobedience and a boycott of the political process until our demands are met, said Hassan Zaidan al-Lahaibi of the Sunni-dominated Iraqi Front for National Dialogue. He spoke in neighboring Jordan, where representatives of the groups have met in recent days.

The election commission considers 35 of the complaints serious enough to change some local results. But Farid Ayar, a commission official, said there was no reason to cancel the entire election.

He also said preliminary results from early votes by soldiers, hospital patients, prisoners and overseas Iraqis showed a coalition of Kurdish parties and the main Shiite religious bloc each taking about a third. Those nearly 500,000 votes were not expected to alter overall results significantly.

Preliminary results previously released gave the United Iraqi Alliance, the religious Shiite coalition dominating the current government, a big lead — but one unlikely to allow it to govern without forming a coalition with other groups.

Alliance leader Abdul Aziz al-Hakim traveled to the northern Kurdish city of Irbil on Tuesday to discuss the formation of a governing coalition with Jalal Talabani, Iraq's Kurdish president, and Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdish region.

Al-Hakim's secretary Haitham al-Husseini said there would also be negotiations with Sunni Arabs. Al-Husseini said the Alliance has proposed distributing the top six Cabinet positions, the three-member presidency council and top three parliament slots among the political blocs.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/v-gallery/story/345168.html?/news/alas...

Sure looks great for 8 months along! 

The Libertarian Party has nominated former Congressman Bob Barr, the Constitution Party has nominated pastor and radio talk show host Chuck Baldwin, and the Green Party has nominated former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Ralph Nader declined to seek the Green Party nomination and is running as an independent candidate.  That is in addition to the Ron Paul fans as well as McCain and Obama.

What did we get out of the debate last night?  That same ole crap Obama and McCain have been throwing around since the get go.  Imagine what that would be like with all these other people thrown in the debate as well. 

President Kennedy  http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/The+Kennedy+White+House+Parties.htm

President Clinton  http://mediamatters.org/items/200502190003

President Bush  http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/12/13/letter_ed3__5.php

And I found many, many more hits - just too many to post!

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/14/jacobs_democrats_tea_parties/

There is considerable reason for ardent supporters of both parties to be increasingly concerned about the direction the country is being taken (shoved!) by the Obama-Pelosi-Reid troika, which has already shown that it is far more radical in its liberal agenda, in its contempt for states' rights, its palpable fear of conservatives, and in its "globalism" than many Democrats can stomach.  The pendulum has swung too far, and now it threatens to come off its hinge entirely.  It must be swung back toward the middle before it is too late.

Can it ever become too late?  History says "yes" - and the tipping point can be reached with astonishing speed and little warning.  I never cease to be amazed that so many Americans seem to be so ignorant of history that they have no real appreciation of how little it takes to destroy even the mightiest of nations, or how many seem to believe that "something" would never let this happen to America. They cannot imagine a world in which there is no America or, what is more likely, an America that becomes an extension of the socioeconomically incompetent system of "government uber alles"  that now literally stinks up Europe. 

Here's a very disturbing oxymoron about the "troika" that the mainstream press has not bothered to look into:  Given that the world is quite obviously becoming more dangerous rather than less so, and given an administration that believes so strongly that big government spending is the solution to the current recession with massive increases to almost every government agency, how is it that the Department of Defense is the only skeleton at the feast?  With extraordinary ineptitude, the day after North Korea defied the world and launched its intercontinental ballistic missile, the Obama administration announced defense cuts, including the missile defense program - which has shown that it works.

Now we have a grave situation developing with respect to illegal immigration.  Not only are the labor unions beginning to collude with the illegals, but the number of "anchor babies" born in the US to illegals has nearly doubled from 2.7 million per year in 2003 to over 4 million in 2008.  Is there anyone on this forum who understands what is happening here?

I know that Americans of most political persuasions, including independents, are becoming very alarmed, as well they should.  What concerns me now is that we might already be past the tipping point.  We must restore two-party government to Washington in 2010, or I believe there will be no turning back from this calamitous course.

Arlen Specter, who has always been the weirdest "Republican" senator, has decided to switch to the Democrats, saying "I now find my political philosophy more in line with the Democrats than the Republicans". 

You're just discovering this, are you Arlen?  The rest of the world has known this for years.  You should read a newspaper now and then. 

Forget about the fundamental ethical problem here - i.e., the betrayal of the voters' trust  that any legislator commits when he runs under one party and then switches horses afterward.  I say "forget about it" because this is only one of the multitude of deceptions that legislators like Specter engage in throughout their careers.  One more ripple in this maelstrom of representational malfeasance is scarcely noticeable any more.  Even a used car salesman is prohibited from pulling bait-and-switch tricks on the public, but then whoever said a Congressman should have as much integrity as a used car salesman?

And, this won't make much difference during the current term either, because Specter was a pretty reliable vote for Obama's socialist programs anyway.  He was one of the three Republicans who broke ranks and cleared the way for the "emergency" (quick - before the voters read it!) funding package and like everyone else who voted for it he did so without reading most of it.

Where this could make a difference (unless Democrat voters in Pennsylvania find Specter's duplicity as disgusting as anyone with moral sense should) is that this boosts his chances of reelection.  As things were shaping up, he was not going to get any support from Republicans or Democrats next time out.  Now, he hopes the Democrats will vote for him - and he'll undoubtedly get a lot of money from Democratic party headquarters that he would never have had from the Republican side because they're sick of him..

Let's really get a clear understanding of what we're talking about here, which is a senator taking the moral low road for the sole purpose of preserving his own position.  It is a raw, naked, and some might even say desperate effort to keep power within his clutches and get himself reelected at any cost, no matter what his actions do to further disgrace Congress - a body that has already lost most of the esteem that Americans once had for it.

Specter will be running for his 6th term and now becomes the best argument - the poster child, in fact  -  for term limits.  Again I say (and would say this regardless of which way Specter was switching) - we MUST get control of the subversion of the political process by people who will do anything - including betraying their own voters - to accumulate and retain power for themselves, and the ONLY way to do this is to impose term limits.