Teen charged with charged with one felony count of terroristic threatening...see article
Posted By: Democrat on 2006-03-29
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Middle-school boy e-mailed theats to officials
BY JIM HANNAH | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER
FLORENCE - A 13-year-old Ockerman Middle School student has been charged with threatening George W. Bush, just days before the president is set to throw the first pitch for Reds Opening Day in Cincinnati.
The teen - described by a police investigator as a student of presidential politics - remained in the custody of his mother Tuesday afternoon at their Florence home.
He is charged with one felony count of terroristic threatening.
He is extremely well versed in the history of President Bush, Florence police Capt. Linny Cloyd said. In talking with him, you can tell this is a hot-button topic with him.
Cloyd launched an investigation after Florence Mayor Diane Whalen received an anonymous threatening e-mail. Cloyd and Whalen refused to give a more detailed account of the threats or release the e-mails.
As investigators worked to track down the sender, a second e-mail arrived in Whalen's city e-mail account. That e-mail threatened Bush and was also sent to the White House, Vice President Cheney and the Pentagon.
If the teen was just looking for attention, he certainly got it, said Whalen, who doesn't know the teen or his parents. I think the key thing here is you can't ignore any threat in these times.
Cloyd went to the teen's home Monday evening with agents from the FBI and Secret Service.
He is a student of the present administration, Cloyd said. He described the teen as in tune with current political affairs.
We asked him what brought him to this point, Cloyd said. He didn't have an answer he was willing to share with us.
Cloyd said the teen's parents consented to a search of the home, and investigators did not find anything, such as weapons, that led them to believe the teen was intending to carry out the threats.
Investigators seized a computer from the home. Cloyd said additional charges might hinge on what's recovered from the hard drive.
Mom was shocked, Cloyd said. That would lead me to believe, if the parents are politically active, it isn't in the same manner at all. He said the teen acted alone, and there is no evidence anyone else is involved
Investigators said the teen will appear in Boone Family Court within two weeks.
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He hasn't been officially charged
so it's all just hearsay at this point. This is all a witch hunt pure and simple, however, everytime dems open up Pandora's box they are the ones who really get burned by it.
I'm not saying people who do something illegal and are found guilty shouldn't be punished Dem. or Rep. alike, but when people start opening up other people's closets they better be darn sure their's are squeaky clean.... 
I know we never not charged a parent for a visit -
We always sent a bill right to the parent for anything.
those boys were not charged with a racist crime -
they were charged with burglary, disorderly conduct, and theft.
According to what I read, they cannot be charged with a hate crime because Obama is a political figure and therefore it would be considered a "free speech" issue and not a hate crime. If he were an everyday citizen, then he could be charged with a hate crime.
Either way, for Palin and Obama, it was repulsive to me!
Greg Palast: Charged with Journalism in the First Degree..sm
Click on link.
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are you threatening me?
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Are you the one who has been threatening him and and his family?
It's not about denouncing the teen.
After all the media hoop-lah, burning interet wires and chat room outrage over "attacks" on Palin, inevitably these issues will surface, as they are trying to do now and will deserve some attention. Pubs preach family values so voter inquiry/comment/opinion legitimate political discours. Abstinence, sex education, birth control and AB will also be front and center and is also legitimate public discourse. Platforms and policies of two candidates will be compared. people will be making judgments. Palin will be scruitinized along since she dropped her hat in the ring. Unfortunately, she dropped Brolin's in there two. There's no turning back. For better or worse, this is how the process works.
Well then quit threatening to leave
because you just keep getting my hopes up.
Stay or leave I really don't care, because the sane people who are the MAJORITY in this country will protect us all from the likes of you...a hate filled leftist.
I think "()" is just some teen-aged lurker.
Yes, they can. But it is a felony and I hope...
they catch them and throw the book at them, and I would say that if Obama's or Biden's had been hacked. It is against the law. Period.
The military leaders are threatening to resign sm
From today's London Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece
You're advocating teen pregnancy?
Okay, give him a pass on the felony...
just like other Clintonites. Just an FYI, Laura Bush has worked with the Initiative to bring water to 10 million people in Africa. Imagine that. A BUSH. Part of the Initiative is also something that George Bush asked former President Clinton and his father former President Bush to work on...Katrina Relief. Imagine that...GEORGE BUSH'S idea. Say it ain't so. I'd like to know how much of Bill Clinton's own money is in his foundation. I would be REAL interested to know that. But, I digress. Yes, is foundation is doing good work, I don't deny that. He is not doing it alone and has worked with all three of the Bushes as part of it. So, let's please not act like he is the hero for the masses all by himself and George Bush has a black soul. The way Clinton used Monica Lewinsky and then threw her under the bus when he got caught, cheated on his wife and committed a felony while a sitting President...is much more indicative of soul problems than anything Bush has done. Let's be real here. As far as Bill Clinton trying to save the world...please. Bill Clinton is trying to save his legacy.
The point was....perpetuating a felony and further...
posting links to illegally obtained material is not particularly ethical.
Just to clarify, inciting one is a felony. sm
That would include just warning people to get their money out. They warn us about this in discussions we have in finance forums.
Washington Mutual was limiting or refusing withdrawals to depositors. I am not leaving my money in the bank, only enough to keep the account open. I do not want them making money off me. For every $1,000 you leave in the bank, they create $10,000 in credit, and debt is our biggest problem.
If it's a felony to incite a bank run, then
shouldn't these people on Wall Street be prosecuted? After all, if they hadn't done what they did to the economy, then we wouldn't have to withdraw our money.
What's this business about a Chinese general threatening to use nukes against the US if necessary,sm
over the treaty with Taiwan? This was reported on Fox News this week.
Anyone been following this?
Punishing a teen for life for a stupid moment of
it just brings yet another person (most likely ALSO stupid) into an already overpopulated world.
Bristol's future MIL arrested on 6 counts of felony drug charges.
Palins can't seem to catch a break this past week.
Mississippi, A Hotbed of Abstinence Education, Now Boasts Highest Teen Pregnancy Rate
The Centers for Disease Control released a new report today that found that Mississippi “now has the nation’s highest teen pregnancy rate, displacing Texas and New Mexico for that lamentable title.” The report found that in 2006, the Mississippi teen pregnancy rate was over 60 percent higher than the national average and increased 13 percent since the year before. While the new report does not explain why the state’s teen pregnancy rate is increasing, one reason may be the poor quality of its sex ed programs. As the Sexuality Information and Education Center explains, Mississippi focuses heavily on abstinence education and teachers are prohibited from demonstrating how to use contraceptives:
Mississippi schools are not required to teach sexuality education or sexually transmitted disease (STD)/HIV education. If schools choose to teach either or both forms of education, they must stress abstinence-until-marriage, including “the likely negative psychological and physical effects of not abstaining.” […]
If the school board authorizes the teaching of contraception, state law dictates that the failure rates and risks of each contraceptive method must be included and “in no case shall the instruction or program include any demonstration of how condoms or other contraceptives are applied.”
A reporter for ABC News’s Jackson, MS affiliate explained, “The Mississippi Department of Human Services says abstinence is the only birth control that is 100 percent effective. And that’s the only message teens need to hear.” Unfortunately, numerous studies show that abstinence-only education is not effective. As one study found:
Teenagers who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are just as likely to have premarital sex as those who do not promise abstinence and are significantly less likely to use condoms and other forms of birth control when they do, according to a study released today.
Further, a review by the House Oversight Committee found that “80% of the abstinence-only curricula…contain false, misleading, or distorted information about reproductive health.” Pregnant teens in Mississippi face few options. Access to facilities that provide abortions in that state is extremely limited. Indeed, because of an unusually effective anti-choice campaign in the legislature, only a single abortion clinic remains open in the state. UpdateThe report also found that the teen pregnancy rate is rising fastest in Alaska, where Gov. Sarah Palin (R) is a strong proponent of abstinence-only sex ed.
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Count me IN!
I lived in River Oaks, (yes, it's possible), then west Houston for many years before moving to Sugar Land. Married to HPD, so I do have a concern about Sharpstown. He won't let his mother go there for Catholic Charities shopping, and quit working in that area long before we met.
I, too, remember when Sharpstown was "the place to move." A Radiologist friend of mine had a condo there and it went down the tubes literally overnight. It's a shame that it happened over there.
If you feel safe over there, God bless ya. If you didn't, I imagine you'd move.
But anyone stupid enough to think that someone in a little, bitty town can't get their head blown off by a nutjob is truly in need of an eye exam or something.
I feel safe in Sugar Land, but we have crime here, too. But there are enough sharpshooters on our extremely quiet subdivision to really help matters. Another plus is the master-planned community thing, which hopefully is catching on. But people rob houses, drive drunk, and all that stuff even in River Oaks.
I love living here, and was so proud of our city when Katrina & Rita hit. Greta certainly fell in love with our city, too while reporting from here. While crime is everywhere, Houston has always been a very friendly, welcoming city.
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Count me in!
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An excellent post, I think you have set an example for your McCain supporters here. You can be sure that I will be right there with you holding Obama's (and the Congress's) feet to the fire
I'm going to back on out of here too. I think we all have our work cut out for us holding the politician's ....all of them....feet to the fire and there is nothing to be gained by keephing hashing over the old stuff. I think everyone "gets" it.
Let me count the ways...
1. Behaving as if he had a mandate from day 1.
2. Iraq, Iraq, Iraq and Iraq (this includes everything from the phony buildup to the quicksand of today).
3. Leaving Afghanistan to go to Iraq.
4. Tax cuts for the billionaires.
5. Restoring integrity to the WH??? Libby, Rove, Cunningham, Goss, DeLay, Cheney, Wilkes, Allen, Watergate redux (we are not only replaying Viet Nam, we are replaying freaking Watergate).
6. Staffing his cabinet with old fogies from his Dad and even Ford's time who see the world quite differently from what it has become in reality.
7. Gross incompetence in domestic and foreign affairs.
8. Making the United States a laughingstock.
9. Turning us into a third world country with outsourcing, offshoring, hiring illegal immigrants, importing much more than we are exporting, the glorification of cheap Chinese stuff at Wal-Mart and on and on....
10. Medicare fiasco.
11. Education fiasco.
12. The reuniting of church and state.
13. Job losses.
14. Healthcare fiasco.
Count me out of the collective *we*. sm
I am not living in crap.
Don't count Obama out yet... s/m
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There are polls, and then there are polls. Here's one that matters.
A new Des Moines Register survey of likely Democratic caucus-goers gives Barack Obama a narrow edge over rival Hillary Clinton, with John Edwards holding steady just below them. Obama is at 28 percent, compared with Clinton at 25 percent and Edwards at 23 percent. Obama's lead over Clinton is within the margin of error.
On the Republican side, Mike Huckabee, who has skyrocketed in recent Iowa polls, has overtaken Mitt Romney and now leads 29 percent to 24 percent. Rudy Giuliani is in third at 13 percent. Both parties' races in Iowa, which holds caucuses in a month, remain fluid, the poll suggests. And in Iowa time, a month is an eternity. Still, both current front-runners can find good omens in the results.
Obama leads Clinton among women 31 percent to 26 percent, the Register reports, a stark change from October, when 34 percent of women caucus-goers said they would vote for Clinton, and 21 percent preferred Obama. Women account for about 60 percent of likely caucus-goers, the poll indicates.
Huckabee leads Romney, 38 to 22 percent, among those who call themselves born-again Christians, who make up half of likely caucus-goers. Romney drew more support than Huckabee from that group in October.
Don't count your chickens...
I wouldn't be so sure about an Obama victory just yet. I seem to recall that not just four months ago, everyone thought the nominee was going to be Hillary and you see how that one turned out!
Look...Obama has 300...count them...
300 foreign policy advisors. If he had gone on a network that was not in the democratic pocket and had given an interview when he was 2 weeks into the process, he would not have done any better. He chose Joe Biden because of his LACK of foreign policy experience. You really think we didn't notice that?
If McCain (God forbid) keeled over in week 2 of his presidency and she became president, she would surround herself with foreign policy experts just like Obama would...and we get him day 1. He is no better prepared to handle a national emergency right now than she would be. That is fact, no matter how you dress it up.
She has never said she did not keep the money. What she says on the campaign trail is that she killed the bridge to nowhere. And she did.
I don't know anything about what you are saying about O'Reilly, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Obama was the consummate politician, hedged energy questions, hedged socialism questions, but one good thing came out of it...he did admit the surge had succeeded beyond anyone's wildest dreams, and that is SURE not what HE has been saying on the campaign trail. You can't have it both ways.
Obama has proven himself to be thoughtful, knowledgable, and decent. That could describe a lot of people in this country. Does not mean they are ready to be President. You can't have it both ways.
Of course she was heavily coached. She is trying to get up to speed in 2 weeks; your guy has had 18 months. lol. And for 2 weeks, I would say she is doing a spectacular job...and without 300 advisors.
Does an old Hippie count?
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Don't count your chickens...
...until they're hatched.
The timing of this whole Israeli mess is very interesting. Don't count out martial law just yet, in case there's a "terror attack" on the USA or some other scheme going on in Washington. 
You mean 14 days....you still can't count
At least we can count. Obama cant.
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Recount!!....I count 28 so far.
Barrasso (4 earmarks, $2.7 million)
Bayh (4 earmarks, $1.2 million)
Bennett (23 earmarks, $18 million)
Brownback (21 earmaks, $12 million)
Bunning (5 earmarks, $735,000)
Burr (3 earmarks, $1.3 million)
Chambliss (7 earmarks, $4.3 million)
Collins (1 earmark, $380,000)
Corker (1 earmark, $760,000)
Cornyn (5 earmarks, $2.5 million)
Crapo (1 earmark, $100,000)
Enzi (5 earmarks, $1.7 million)
Graham (14 earmarks, $9.5 million)
Grassley (8 earmarks, $350,000)
Gregg (19 earmarks, $10 million)
Hatch (7 earmarks, $700,000)
Hutchison (35 earmarks, $9.9 million)
Inhofe (34 earmarks, $53 million)
Isakson (2 earmarks, $1.4 million)
Kyl (3 earmarks, $5 million)
Lugar (10 earmarks, $3.3 million)
Martinez (8 earmarks, $18.8 million)
McConnell (36 earmarks, $51 million)
Roberts (11 earmarks, $2.2 million)
Sessions (12 earmarks, $4.3 million)
Thune (6 earmarks, $4.3 million)
Vitter (16 earmarks, $4 million)
Voinovich (6 earmarks, $13.5 million)
Let me count the ways
1. Really poor choice of Republican presidential candidate (republican lite).
2. George Soros's backing.
3. Mainstream media gave him a complete pass as far as any close scrutiny. Still are, although the honeymoon may be ending.
4. He's gonna fill my gas tank and pay my mortgage.
5. Political correctness.
6. The teleprompter.
7. Etc.
Count me as one who WOULD like to see them succeed (sm)
which, of course, would require that the bullies of this world (with the U.S. as #1) stop making it economically impossible with their embargoes, etc.
Yeah. Let's count them: First, we have the one who wrote for everyone to see
"I spent 19 years in the military."
It's not until someone thanked her for her service and asked what branch she was in that we found out that she was in a military FAMILY. Was that a lie? OF COURSE NOT AND DON'T ANYONE DARE SAY SHE LIED.
Another poster (maybe the same as the above) really displayed the extent of her intelligence when she responded to a poster by referring to their "vaucity." When asked what that meant, she responded by saying look it up. When a poster responded that she tried BUT IT ISN'T IN THE DICTIONARY, she replied that it's a "combination of 2 words" that can be found on blogs all over the net. (When asked WHICH 2 words, she couldn/didn't respond.)
Turns out, it was a typo and was supposed to read "vacuity." The irony was that she was trying to tell the original poster that they were stupid, but who REALLY looked stupid during all this???? Can she say it's a typo? NO. And as far as a "blog" term that doesn't exist, SHE DID NOT LIE, SO DON'T CALL HER A LIAR.
Best part is if a little HONESTY could be employed by these people, there wouldn't be an argument. It's absolutely honorable to be a member of a military family, and they, too make sacrifices and should be thanked for that. But it is NOT the same as saying "I spent 19 years in the military." I know people who actually DID spend 20 years in the military and retired at a very young age. Still, it is very honorable to be a member of a military family. At least in my eyes it is. Guess it wasn't in hers or she would have been honest about her role.
Also, instead of saying "I made a typo, and I meant to write vaucity," again, the invention of "facts" about a combination of two nonexitent words.
Another member of their gang... well, just go visit the Conservative board for yourself and read the entire thread about the activist judges/groups who are responsible for not letting the poster place a nativity scene in her own yard. She was questioned by someone, and it's not until the fourth post that she begins by saying, "I'll be up front with you." HOW NICE. It's quite comical. If you haven't read it, you should. Turns out it had nothing to do with "activist judges/groups" at all. BUT SHE DID NOT LIE!!!!!
When I come to these boards, I start out with the belief that everyone has credibility. It's only after they prove to me THEMSELVES that they don't, by their very OWN ACTIONS AND WORDS that they can't be believed, that I begin to form negative opinions.
What you wrote is a perfect example of someone whose credibility is definitely ... uh.... challenged. (trying to be kind)
And yes, LOL, I'd bet a psychiatrist could make a mint from some of these people.
And riled? Yeah, used to a little bit, but now I just find them more comical than anything. But I'll grow out of it like I did with the OTHER Curly, Larry and Moe.
Did you count the unnamed trolls?
Since you're into counting....that makes up the majority of the trolling that goes on on the conservative board.
That doesn't count, Democrat.
It never counts when they do it.
And the Conservative hypocrisy of the day:
They themselves posted this about Liberals: *If they dont' say it here, under a pseudonym, they say it THERE and then gather like little old ladies to chew the fat.*
Just take a look at the posts Nan... or should I say Brunson.. has posted over there today at the top of the board. 
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OK. so education doesn't count and
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Life experience can count as much or more.
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Don't count your chickens before they are hatched
Truth of the matter is we don't know who will win. The polls mean didly. I've said it before and I'll say it again - They don't mean anything. Even Rasmussen was interviewed and he said you cannot tell by polls who is ahead and a lot of it has to do with the media and their love affair with Obama and how they are manipulating what they are feeding you. The real poll will be on 11/4 after the election is held or the next day.
Oh, and your comments can go both ways -
What's going to happen to the rabid democrats when McCain wins?
Will their anger fade away or are we going to see riots in the streets because a black man didn't win with Farrakan leading the way?
Will they accept a McCain presidency, or are they going to remaind divided like they always have while pointing the finger that the other side won't work with them.
What's going to happen when they find out that their "lord" Obama was actually born in Kenya and there is a birth certificate to prove it, which makes him disqualified to run as president. Will his good friend (the leader of Kenya) be able to keep this silenced for long. He already threw one person in jail for getting too close - will he be able to jail everyone who wants to know the truth.
Will Franks, Dodd & others who benefitted from FMFM and threw the economy into a near depression be men and own up to their mistakes or will they sit on their hands and continue to blame the republicans.
I don't have to ask if they will undermine the progress to make themselves look better. They have already been doing that and they will continue on.
Domestic terrorists you ask? We don't have to look any further than Obama's close friends William Ayers, his good freinds in Pakistan whom he spent time over there with, and his friends from the Muslim schools he attended while growing up as a Muslim.
If I had known back then what I know now about Obama, I would have voted for Hillary. At least we know about her. It's what Obama is hiding about himself that HAS to make you wonder.
The questions still remains...
Why do so many people not care if we have a president who has ties/friends to known terrorists?
Why do so many people not care that their taxes will go up and they'll be left with less money to live on.
Why do so many people just blatantly ignore the facts about Obama, which is NOT, I repeat NOT a good direction for our country to go.
Why do so many people not care if they elect this guy our country will be turned to a socialist country. Are there really that many of you that don't have a lot so you believe that the people who have worked so hard all of their lives should just give you part of what they have worked for?
Why do so many people not care what happens to our country?
Why do so many people not care that our country will not be safe anymore?
Why do so many people not even care about 9/11 and everything we have done to keep our country safe since then. Lets just throw it all away and vote in this radical muslim. Why? Because it's PC?
Why do so many people believe him when he says he won't raise your taxes, when in fact his voting records shows that he voted to raise taxes over 50 times in the past, but now that he's running for President and telling you that he won't raise your taxes you believe him? Why?
There are too many why's and such an unsettling feeling. Sure McCain may not be my first choice, but between the two he is the better choice.
The election isn't over, and its with views like yours that I hope martial law is implimented and McCain is placed in the position. If that happens it will serve you right!
I agree and count only your #1....the rest...sm
....to me, are the many ways that Obama has tried to paint himself, many only just recently as he has run for office of the pres....don't trust a single word out of his mouth.
He will screw us all over, just to get elected. Just watch.
That's awful!!! If ANYONE's votes should count is is theirs!!! sm
The government should have made absolutely sure our soldiers' votes were here on time and if not, dammit, we should postpone the election until they do. They are leaving their families and risking their lives to protect this country and they don't even get a vote on who runs it?? That has me fuming mad!!!!!!!
Yeah, they'll only count the ones for O
plus a couple for McCain to appear as though they are fair.
Another reason that IF O wins it will be a stolen election.
It absolutely should not count -- if she's gonna
she should at least have to live through the havoc he's gonna create like the rest of us.
I'd say the same about anyone who dies after they cast their vote but before the election. It shouldn't count. Where's the accountability?
you may be correct but why would it not count as any other vote?
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