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The left has decided to make it about the teenager...

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-02
In Reply to: teenagers - Minos

she is the one who is pregnant after all. It is each person's choice whether to take the high road or throw stones. If Sarah Palin's daughter had decided to have an abortion the left would have used that against her as well. Everyone knows that.

See...that is the problem here. The left thinks they know the common person, the "right," the middle class middle AMerica folks who have family values...anyone who thinks those kinds of people would attack a pregnant teenager in this fashion no matter what party her mother is in...does not know nor understand these people.

This perceived weapon that the left has picked up may well harm their candidate, because no matter how many times he cries foul, there are still his followers who want to go there. So we are left with two ways to view that. Either Obama is political posturing, does not believe what he said, and in the trenches is telling his people "sic her," or he is genuinely affronted by this and his followers are paying him no heed. Either way...it will reflect badly on his candidacy.


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teenager didn't make it.....you need to
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she is a teenager

who got pregnant out of wedlock.  What a shame.


 


Not AS a teenager...
...I said he is acting with the bullheaded immaturity OF a teenager. 
And no underage teenager drinks
alcohol right?  LOL!  Sheesh.  How many underage kids smoke cigarettes?  Making them illegal will just create more crime and a black market for cigarettes.  This thinking is absolutely stupid.  Do we not remember what happened during prohibition?
Naw, C. Mudgeon thinks he did ALL this as a teenager!!
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Yes, I have a teenager; and I've told him to wrap it

I also was a teenager myself in the 80s. 


I can say that in high school when somone popped up with child; they popped out of school early with another diagnosis.  Yes, mono, was one of the "illnesses" these girls supposedly had, so this type of thinking goes way back.  Let's brush it under the carpet, and no one will notice.  I am not so sure I like that mentality. 


Well, I've decided not to

post on their precious board any more, even though they won't like it.  They thrive on hatred and attacks.  They've been baiting people all week with their constant, unrelentless, vicious attacks on liberals.  When someone gives them a taste of their own medicine, they run to the monitor.


You know, the whole concept of "their" thinking the three of us is only one person is very interesting.  A very intelligent person told me a long time ago that if someone accuses you of doing something, it's probably something they are themselves doing.  Maybe all three of these "people" is really only just one person with a severe personality disorder.  The more outlandish things I read that "they" write, the more I'm inclined to think that might be true.  One thing for certain, there are some very sick people out there, and they probably deserve pity more than disdain.  "They" certainly do have some startling, somewhat scary traits, and I kind of wish now that GT hadn't put her email address out there for some of these nuts to have access to.  I hope they don't begin to stalk her, but hatred is a very strong emotion, and some of these "people" clearly don't seem to be very stable.


Like I said, I'm staying away from their board.  It's much easier to breathe on this board, and the intellect is certainly better.


Decided, but if

I have been an ardent supporter of Senator Obama since February of this year.  I have donated $25 a month to his campaign since then.  First time in my life that I have felt that level of committment to a candidate for any office.  If I were still undecided at this point, the thing that would sway me to vote for Obama would be the tone of his campaign.  As in the primary, Senator Obama makes it very clear what his policies are.  He is able to uplift his ideas without constantly talking in a negative manner about his oponent.  He does not get personal in his attacking of his opponents' ideas and stances.  His way of waging his campaign makes it possible for him and his opponent to come together and work for the benefit of our nation when all the politicking is over....as he and Senator Clinton are now doing.  Senator McCain is so harsh and personal in his attacks on Obama.  Senator McCain has said things that he knows are not true of Senator Obama; he has allowed Governor Palin to utter comments that would made it very difficult for them to work with a Congress and Senate that is composed of both Democrats and Republicans.  I know that his back is to the wall, but he should be mindful (as it appears to me Senator Obama is mindful) that the end goal here is successfully governing our nation.  Senator McCain's torched earth policy on the campaign trail would make it impossible for him to govern in cooperation with others.  So, if I were still undecided at this point Senator Obama would have my vote because he is playing the election game with dignity, respect and the realization that whoever wins, we all still must be able to work together.


I've decided too
I've made my decision too but for different reasons. I believe nothing I read and only half of what I see.   I decided on what I heard directly from the candidates own mouths.   Palin is a simpering airhead in my opinion.   I will drag my feet to the polls and cast my vote for Obama hoping that he will do less harm than McCain.  I say no McCain/Palin.  I think that once the new wears off Palin we'll see a lot of people who will agree with me.  Surely the American people are more intelligent than to put someone in power that only knows that Russia is her neighbor.
I have decided to vote
for all the republicans I can.  I've always been the type of person to look at all candidates in both parties and decide which is the better of the two.  However, I'm voting straight republican this election.  My grandma always told me that you never want the oval office and the congress controlled by the same party.  I'm a middle of the road person and I don't want to go extreme left or extreme right so I think we need a little bit of both.  So I will be voting for as many republicans as I can to try and keep the left side from totally taking over.  We need some right sided people to help keep things in the middle of the road so things don't go extreme left.
I decided the same thing!
If we end up with O in the White House, we need all the Republicans we can to balance things out. I don't usually vote straight Republican, but I am this time around.

I decided to do some research

on the birth certificate.  I believe any reasonable person can examine the birth certificate at this website and conclude that Obama's b/c is authentic.  http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


Maybe you could stop trashing him until you see what he actually does and please....quit reading all those blogs that have not a shred of useful information in them.  Learn to reason for yourself.....please!


P.S. Who decided he was the perfect one

to run for president anyhow? There were candidate s much more qualified than O that could have run away with the votes if they were "chosen" by the party...but they chose someone who was only a senator for what, less than 2 years? Why? I would love to know how the party choses their candidates to run for president. Something doesn't smell right here.


 


I agree. It was the TERRORISTS who decided...

...to attack on 9/11.  Likewise, it will be the TERRORISTS who will decide when and how to attack again.


I don't believe this has anything to do with WHO the President is, so while Bush shouldn't take the blame, he also shouldn't claim the credit for what the TERRORISTS HAVEN'T done.  It's the timetable of the TERRORISTS that controls what does or doesn't happen.


The Republicans felt that another terror attack would be helpful to McCain's campaign (they came out and said so).  I don't recall any Democrat uttering anything so UGLY in regards to Obama.


Are you still here? I thought you decided to leave...sm
or are you already back again?
I decided to let it drop b/c it won't let me post sm
THE CUSS WORDS I WANTED TO ADDRESS TO THE IDIOTS. Thank you to everyone else who had kind words. I hope no one ever has to go through what I did.
Guess that will be decided in the media circus
These links are not just guilt by association pieces like Rev Wright. They are containing words straight out of her mouth. Libs approach to research a little different than Christian Right.
Who gives a rip about local news in an already-decided state?
That's why the polls are NATIONAL polls, duh!

And I don't know what you're implying by your virus comment. Grow the he!! up already.
We've decided to sit back and watch
turn the forum back over to the tribal warriors. Our work is done here. For the record, he'll be raising taxes ON HIMSELF, for Pete's sake.
Has the country decided not to hold any more elections
Was 2008 the very last election? I thought every four years there is an election. I also thought, according to past elections, that people should not just assume someone will win. They assumed Gore would win and he didn't, they assumed Kerry would win and he did not. Hence I would not assume Obama will win a second term. If he turns out to be a good president and we still have elections in 4 years, and nothing happens between now and then, then and only then will he most likely be re-elected. But since the guy has not even been sworn in yet and made any major decisions I would not be so bold as to just go on like he's going to be in for eight years. There is that slight possibility that he could very well be a crappy president like Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter (especially with all the people he is picking for his cabinet). I know the country is ready for a change and GW hasn't been the best, but until a man serves in the office we don't know what kind of a president he will be.

Unless of course you have heard something that none of us have heard and there will never be any more elections in the future. I have heard and read that Obama is a socialist, and maybe we are heading toward the same thing Cuba faces. The leader just appoints himself to the office every time. So maybe that is what you are referring to.
I decided to stop posting on this issue,
because it's becoming a troll.
But Barack's mother decided to send her son, when he was 11
years old,back to Hawaii to her mother.
Since then Obama was educated in America.
How much did Barack Obama think about foreign policy before he decided to run...?
I would say...none. There is certainly no proof that he DID, that is why he chose Biden. So, if HE has to make a crucial decision that does not involve voting present or yelling at Michelle for spending $10,000 to send their kids to camp, or which Britney Spears designer to use for his next big speech...what's he gonna do? All I can say is, if he is elected, he better put Biden on speed dial or handcuff him to himself. You act as if your guy is ready!! And no one has to keel over for HIM to be in charge...he is in charge on day 1. Yeah, THAT IS scary!!

I don't know in what alternate universe you think Karl Rove is advising him. Karl Rove and John McCain detest each other. Have you not paid ANY attention these last few years??
The court has decided. The plaintiff just doesn't like the ruling. nm
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Don't ya'll pay attention? The Popes (past and present) had already decided this.
...Madsen, a Washington-based writer and columnist, who often writes for Counterpunch, says that people close to the pope claim that amid these concerns, the pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations. John Paul II has always believed the world was on the precipice of the final confrontation between Good and Evil as foretold in the New Testament.

Before he became pope, Karol Cardinal Wojtyla said, "We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of the American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel."
you mean left wing....it's a left wing ding website on the messiah....the right wouldn't bothe

Yeah, just heard today he decided to cut his vacation short to deal with the
huricaine. Sheesh.
NOBODY can make Saddam look good. But Bush seems to be the ONLY one who can make him look less

If you can't make abortion illegal, just make it impossible (sm)

That's right, Bush is still alive and well.  Check this out.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#28024676


Yeah, I know it's MSNBC, but how many other people are doing a lame duck watch?


Just because you make a statement does not make it true...
.
Those who make you believe absurdities can make

No need. I can't think of who else left besides Nan before. sm
That's why I didn't name their name. Either way, my point was they'll be back.
Actually what the left
expects and the right should too is not to be lied to on a continual basis, to have our constitution upheld. We didnt go into this war to spread democracy we went because this administration lied. WMD remember? THATS why we went into Iraq, that and the fact that due to republican spin fully half of Americans believed Saddam did 09/11. and meanwhile the real perp of 09/11 runs free. If Iraq had no oil, we never would have gone in there. Sadly, Mr bush has made one huge mess that is costing us billions and killing our soldiers. Yeah a whole lot of America is furious and upset and we have good reason to be.
Look what the left does..

maybe this was posted before but it just goes to show how biased the media is and what liars they really are. the quote in red was the actual quote. Look how the media decided to butcher it.


The media is trying REALLY hard to paint Sarah Palin into an evil religious zealot. The AP is willing to break the typically utilized laws of printing the English language to do it.


According to the AP, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church:


“Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,"


According to real life, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church (with the AP’s selective quoting underlined):


“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God,”


The AP quote means “Iraq is a mission from God.”


The actual quote means “We pray Iraq is a mission from God.”


The headline is even more misleading.


Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'


The AP not only doesn't mention the previous sentence, or the first part of the sentence they quote, they also essentially ignore the meaning of the very next sentence as well. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."


This is a statement of humble reflection from Palin. To translate into terms the media might understand, its "I hope we're doing the right thing."


This story is bad enough that the AP really should issue a correction on it, if not a full retraction. There's no story unless you butcher the quote. It's based on half (or a quarter) of a quote, mentally ignoring the previous and following sentences, and even presenting the trimmed quote as the start of a sentence --forcing them to capitalize a word that actually appeared in the middle of the sentence.


Really bad.


you left off

spinning his wedding ring.  And everyone knows what a married man is thinking when he does that . . .


 


If you have next to no $ left now
you must be one of the ones that the rest of us will be supporting with our tax money. 
I will if you put the left one in.

nm


 


Left behind
I am just wondering if either of you read Tim LeHaye's "Left Behind" series. It is fictional but deals with the rapture and those left behind. I had read it many years ago but was just thinking the other day how scary it is that I find so many similarities between the books and our current situation and my feelings about what we as a country may be facing after this election. Part of it also deals with a "one-world" religion, another thought I find scary. Have you read it?
She is the only one left on there with
decency and common sense! She is definitely no twit and there is nothing to hate about her. Just my opinion of course, and I feel like all the others are twits.
Does anyone have anything left in their

those to the far left seem to think
we are to be all-tolerant of them and their lunatic ideas, but the tolerance doesn't work the other direction. Don't worry, those who counted on Obama for the gay/lesbian legislation -- i'm sure he'll come through for you before its all over.
Yes, I know someone who left the
country because Bush was reelected.  So, in answer to your obnoxious question, YES!
I'm about as far left as you can get ....
and Dubya didn't have anything to do with prompting the 9/11 attacks.  He just had the bad fortune to be the sitting president at the time.  Those attacks were years in the making.  Years.  It's foolish to blame any one president or any one administration for it. 
Is this what the left always does when they have no
nm
Oh, come on! Both can be mean, but the left can
nm
What will they do when there's no one left to pay
This, of course, is the major flaw in all socialist dreams and schemes. Sooner or later, the camel collapses under the weight of hauling everyone else's load. And my hump is already getting rubbed raw.
Here is one, but it's partisan left! sm

Neighbors for Peace to "Raise the Bar" for Democratic Candidates


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


St. Paul, MN – June 17, 2003 – When national Democratic leaders visit St. Paul next week, Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace and other Minnesota organizations will be on the scene to question presidential candidates, raising the electoral bar for peace, justice, and environmental issues.


The Association of State Democratic Chairs and the Democratic National Committee will convene this weekend at the Radisson Riverfront Hotel at 11 East Kellogg Boulevard in St. Paul. Gearing up for the 2004 presidential elections, Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace will be outside the hotel on Friday, June 20, from 2:30 to 5:30 p.m. to invite the candidates to join concerned Minnesota Democrats in dialogue about critical issues.


"People are leaving the Democratic party in droves, because in recent elections the candidates have become so centrist that they are almost indistinguishable from the Republicans," comments Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace co-founder, Anne Benson. "We want to see the Democratic party return to its progressive roots—to stand up for working people and poor people, and to fight against the regressive domestic and foreign policies of the Bush administration."


The neighbors from the Merriam Park area of St. Paul hold that in recent elections, Democratic candidates have lost their chance to take office because they've neglected the concerns of their own voters.


"It has always been said, 'There are more Democrats than Republicans; we just need to get out the vote,'" states member, Steve Schwarz. "We, however, need a reason to get out the vote. Many Democrats have felt alienated and misrepresented by the party and have looked instead to other alternatives. We believe in the principles that made the Democratic party what it was and still can be today. Remember, we in Minnesota have supported a long line of Democratic politicians who voted on principle and not on predictions of popularity. We expect our candidates to make peace and justice issues a priority."


Adds Benson, "We're encouraging candidates to ask themselves the hard questions: Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Was I misled by the administration when I voted for the War Powers Resolution? How do we get out of this quagmire in Iraq? Does the PATRIOT Act infringe on too many civil liberties?"


Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace has invited all Democratic candidates to meet with them after their sessions conclude on Friday to answer a series of fourteen questions regarding issues of pre-emptive war, international relations, arms development, military spending, V.A. benefits, U.S. economy, social programs, employment, globalization, education, health care, civil liberties, terrorism, and environmental policy. They invite all Minnesotans with these concerns to join them in St. Paul on Friday in addressing the candidates.


"We're not endorsing a particular candidate," group member, Jeanne Schnitzen, notes. "We're giving them all a chance to look us in the eye and answer to the issues we vote for. If they're really in this race to turn the tides, we'll make sure they get that chance. I want to believe there is a Democratic candidate who is capable of sowing the seeds of change."


So much for the tolerance of the left. nm

Looks like you left your *objectivity*

on the Conservative Board.   Might be time for you to return.


Left leaning.

I am well aware that I am on a *left leaning* board; however, how can you ever possibly gain a true picture of real facts if you only visit left leaning sites?  It isn't possible. I don't do it. In fact, on the other political boards I post on, some left and some right, Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, News Max, Fox, are not used as sources. 


You misunderstand me about the Constitution and Iraq. 


The left really hates this guy
This is so laughable that with all that's going on the world the left stoops to National Enquirer style reporting. Get a life and a clue.