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We are in bigger trouble than we know

Posted By: sm on 2009-01-12
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It may just be way too late for Obama to get us out of the horrible mess we are in. We are fiddling while Rome burns - I sound like Chicken Little but indeed the sky IS falling - Frightening!


...."If we can use the Baltic Dry Index (BDI) as a guide for the next 12 months of product delivery and food availability in the stores we shop in then the BDI says shelves will be virtually empty of almost every product we use each and every day. Is the BDI is wrong it will be an historic first. The BDI is used by bankers, financial experts, brokers, traders and everyone in high end finance to assess the global financial condition and the availability of products worldwide. The BDI has dropped 94% in a short few weeks which means raw materials, grains, ores, steel, iron, cement and all imported products for food manufacturing and product manufacturing even though we actually do very little of that here in the US."





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President Obama=bigger taxes, bigger government, and a profound change in society and culture


And George supported bigger profits for bigger business and richer people, that was soooo much bette
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Yep. That sliding board keeps getting bigger and bigger

After watching the mayor of Phila. go to Washington today to beg for a few BILLION to bail that cityout, what's next?


 


Her lies keep getting bigger and bigger
Everytime she speaks all I can hear playing in the mind is a song from the 1970s by Three Dog Night called "Liar". She should be put on the spot and made to face her lies. This baloney about her remembering it differently is just a bunch of hooey!
Even bigger than this?

The American left is dancing on the graves of the New Orleans dead








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Posted By: vs on 2005-09-09,


A radio talk show host just said that...and I agree. This is the big story the left was looking for to TRY and nail Bush. Well, I hope they can live with their collective conscience that is if they even have one. I'm starting to believe they don't.


Even bigger WOW!!!! sm
I so agree with you on this! Shocker, huh? LOL

There are so many different systems in place right now that it is ridiculous. In my precinct, we still use the old pen and paper method which, though it probably has its flaws as well (stray pen marks, crumpled ballots, etc.), is definitely an easier system to navigate for voters, especially elderly voters who don't know how to use the more sophisticated systems. I have read and heard of numerous instances in which elderly voters have to be helped to use the machine systems. Everybody knows how to use a pen and paper....whether they use it intelligently or not is a whole 'nuther matter for debate. ;O)

I also think that a standardized method would speed up the process of counting votes and minimize the possibility of error....stray pen marks, hanging chads, etc.

The picture is even bigger than you think.

More smoke and mirrors from Bush.


This is bigger than politics....sm
A friend of mines posted this on another site and wants me to share the word. Her husband is on assignment in Iraq now.

As you all probably know I am a very proud wife of a Military Soldier. It is an honor, privelege and the toughest duty anyone woman can have. At times my fears get the best of me. And although I cannot imagine my life without my husband, I am in a marriage where his life is on the line daily and I have to remain strong not only for myself but for our 4 sons. This is going to really hit you emotionally and some of you may not even get through however you will see the purpose at the end. I live each day like its my last and this is the reason why.

Last week, while traveling to Chicago on business, I noticed a Marine sergeant traveling with a folded flag, but did not put two and two together. After we boarded our flight, I turned to the sergeant, who'd been invited to sit in First Class (across from me), and inquired if he was heading home.

No, he responded.


Heading out I asked?


No. I'm escorting a soldier home.


Going to pick him up?


No. He is with me right now. He was killed in Iraq ..

I'm taking him home to his family.



The realization of what he had been asked to do hit me like a punch to the gut. It was an honor for him. He told me that, although he didn't know the soldier, he had delivered the news of his passing to the soldier's family and felt as if he knew them after many co nversations in so few days. I turned back to him, extended my hand, and said, Thank you. Thank you for doing what you do so my family and I can do what we do.




Upon landing in Chicago the pilot stopped short of the gate and made the following announcement over the intercom.



Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to note that we have had the honor of having Sergeant Steeley of the United States Marine Corps join us on this flight. He is escorting a fallen comrade back home to his family. I ask that you please remain in your seats when we open the forward door to allow Sergeant Steeley to deplane and receive his fellow soldier. We will then turn off the seat belt sign.


Without a sound, all went as requested. I noticed the sergeant saluting the casket as it was brought off the plane, and his action made me realize that I am proud to be an American.


So here's a public Thank You to our military Men and
Women for what you do so we can live the way we do .

Red Fridays.

Very soon, you will see a great many people wearing Red every Friday. The reason? Americans who support our troops used to be called the silent majority. We are no longer silent, and are voicing our love for God, country and home in record breaking numbers. We are not organized, boisterous or overbearing.

Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends,
simply want to recognize that the vast majority of
Americasupports our troops. Our idea of showing
solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday -- and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message that ... every red-blooded American who supports our men and women afar, will wear something red.

By word of mouth, press, TV -- let's make the United Stateson every Friday a sea of red much like a homecoming football game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this country will share this with acquaintances, coworkers, friends, and family, it will not be long before the USA is covered in RED and it will let our troops know the once silent majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the media lets on.

The first thing a soldier says when asked What can we do to make things better for you? is ..We need your support and your prayers. Let's get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example, and wear something red every Friday.


WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!
You really need to look at the bigger picture
Of course you care about your interest rate on your home, but neither candidate is going to 'solve' this horrific crisis, because there is no ONE reason for it! It is very complicated but as Americans, its our responsibility to TRY to understand it better so that we can demand the right course of actioN from ALL parties involved.

ONE FACT: When wages are stagnant an economy cannot grow - and that DEFINITELY is playing into what is happening in the financial crisis. Ask yourself which candidate is for INCREASING wages and fighting for equal pay for women and men...

Don't depend on SAM or anyone else to help you decide, use the power of the internet to educate yourself.

IF you like war and bleeding the treasury to ensure we have more of it, and more enemies to boot, then McCain is your man.

Im not enamoured of Obama either, so I'm not selling him to you either. That said, he ALWAYS opposed Bush's fake war - which has cost us HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS. Gee, where could we have put that $ to better use? Remember IRAQ did not attack us in 2001; the majority of attackers came from SAUDI ARABIA.

Why? Because they demanded we remove our military bases from their lands and we did not comply. After they attacked us, we attacked Iraq and guess what? WE MOVED THE MILITARY BASES TO IRAQ to appease Saudi Arabia.

Think this has nothing to do with you getting a good rate on your new home?

THINK AGAIN. As long as Americans choose their leaders based on cute lines in debates, we are destined to be robbed again and again and again.

You must look at WHAT THEY WILL DELIVER based on their past record. MCCain will give you more of the last 8 years.

But again, that's my opinion. Please care enough to do your own research, which you will believe more than anything a stranger tells you anyway.



Here is the bigger problem
O says he is going to be transparent and "change" how things are done.  Haven't heard ONE thing about where that money went.  They aren't doing anything about it.  That is an even bigger problem because we have four long years ahead of us still to come.
You probably need to get a bigger teleprompter as I see
you are all stumbling in your reply here.  Duh?
Bush is by far a bigger embarrassment than

All Clinton should have said was "No comment" in regard to the whole Monika disaster.  He should not have lied, but I really don't think it was any of our business what he did behind closed doors sexually, so I think he should not have commented at all.  Bush's string of ignorant comments and actions are far more embarrassing/damaging to this country than anything Clinton did or said.  I die a little inside each time I see President Bush on TV or read about another dumb thing he said.  It bothers me so much!!!  He makes us all look bad, and he is soooo cocky.  Disgusting. (btw, I'm not voting for Hilary.  Just wanted to point out why I think Bush is a much greater embarrassment than the Clintons!)


No bigger than the backlash JM brought down
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but some people are BIGGER liars
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But the bigger question remains:
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Shoot - Let me know if you want image that bigger (NM)

The new govt will be worse. BIGGER.
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correction - I don't think it is a bigger problem than it has always been -
I needed to correct my statement. I do think it is a problem that people do not vote on the issues, just do not think it is a new problem. Just brought out more prominently this time because Obama is black.
We KNOW O doesn't...Pelosi's are bigger, but still no..nm
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You don't know it's not a good idea for BIGGER
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His plans are to create bigger government, which
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Not in this country! It means bigger government, more
You want free thinking, you must mean "independent", as if independent thinker, thinking for yourself, not told how to think!

And making BIGGER government isn't a dictator?
!!
All Obama is doing is builder bigger Govt and
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Who cares? Got bigger fish to fry.... geesh!!
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And we'd big in trouble if he did nothing.

That's where we are as a nation, between a rock and hard place.  Suck it up!


Why do you think we'd be in big trouble

if he did nothing?


On the mortgage debacle, I say let the one's who took bit off more than they could chew, fail. They put themselves in this position.


Those that have been paying their mortgages all along and are now trying to keep their homes should be helped since the prices fell so far so fast. 


Bigger is not alwasy better and some people need to learn that the hard way. Home prices went too high to fast. The bubble was bound to burst. Those that bought into those inflated prices that they couldn't afford should not have done it. Look at the couple in FL. They waited and saved to buy their dream home. They wound up buying  a home that was foreclosed on for only $80K. The house had sold to someone for $235,000. 


Why do people need bathrooms as large as a bedroom anyway? Whose idea was that? How long do you spend in a bathroom every day anyway? A tub as big as a swimming pool? a fire place? Terrazine(sp) tile? Subway tile? Granite counters? The cost is outrageous. We went to buy a separate shower for our extra bathroom 5 years ago. It cost $150. We went back a year later and it was up to $450. Needless to say, we still don't have a shower for our extra bathroom.


My list of people who started this housing crap are the developers, the companies who make the products that go into the homes, the real estate agents who put the price tag on the home after the developer gave their price, and the mortgage lenders/banks who pushed the bad loans.


 


Now I do believe she is in trouble.
She has now accused the CIA of lying to her. No one else, just her. Seriously?

Here's what I think will happen:
1. The investigation will continue and she will be proven a liar - the CIA will help out with this one, I'm sure, with documentation confirming that she knew early on everything that happened.

OR
2. The democrats will ask her to step aside, seeing her for the liability that she is, in order to put the whole nasty mess behind them and do what Obama has suggested and look forward.

Either way, if I had money, I'd bet that her political career is pretty much over. I must say, too, that it couldn't happen to a more deserving person.
The longer this goes on, the bigger terrorist breading ground sm
Iraq becomes. This is getting past ridiculous. Now, I don't think we should just pull out, but I think we need to let them have it, and there will be more US casualties, and get out ASAP.
I just heard billions of dollars in bigger government...
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I know his campaign is in big trouble.

Seems to me he thought he found something and before confirming it, he started appearing on talk shows.  At the most, he knowingly lied and wanted to tell his base what they wanted to hear. 


At the least, he's reckless and sloppy in his approach to things. 


I suppose the true test of his character will be if he comes clean and admits he was wrong.


Other than that, I find it increasingly difficult on a daily basis to understand why some of these politicians do what they do, both Republican and Democrat alike.


This country is in such trouble.

I will not vote for someone who wants to create more government assisted programs.  We are in deep crap now because of government spending.  That will only make our economy worse.  All of our money will be put into government programs, the spending will go up instead of down, and all the money we dish out in taxes to pay for all of this crap will most definitely not go towards our deficit.  It will only get bigger than it is now and it is HUGE right now.  There is no way that Obama can only go after rich people and tax them more.  It still wouldn't be enough to pay for all these "plans" he has.  God help us!


NOBAMA!!!


i had trouble staying with what JM was saying -
it was rambling & almost incoherent.
Media causes trouble
I think half the time it is the broadcasting of such statements that prompt people to react in such a way. It's almost like they feel it is expected, so they then act out.

Plus the whole group mentality is freaky. Look at what people do sometimes after big sports events (like college games) ... even the winners. Like a pack of dogs!
I think they have been in trouble for some time (sm)
but I think the credit freeze just topped it off.  I think there should be a loan (not a bailout), but with oversight and possibly even a controlling interest for the government.  Of course, there is no guarantee that they will change or that the government will do any better, but I don't think them filing bankrupcy is the answer.  Too many jobs are at stake.  One interesting thing though is that everyone was in a hurry to bail out the financial institutions to the tune of 700B, and yet the big 3 are under an emormous amount of scrutiny.  Michael Moore said the other night that there seems to be a difference between how you're treated depending on whether you take a shower before you go to work or if you shower after you get home from work.  So true.
Sigh. Trouble is, if they get what they ask for....
we all get it. Like I said...at least I can take comfort in the fact that I will have had nothing to do with the demise of freedom in this country as we know it. This whole thing with Joe really brought that home in a BIG way. Civil rights down the tubes.
That is their fault. They have been in trouble for
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No....Clinton got in trouble
for lying about his blowjob.  It is called lying under oath and it is punishable by law. 
Should have saved yourself the trouble.
Your message was so juvenile and old hat, I don't know why you even posted.

Thank you for once again proving how ignorant your leftist lunatics really are.
More trouble in Iran

Iran's increasingly isolated opposition leader effectively ended his role in street protests, saying he'll seek permits for future rallies. A leading cleric demanded in a nationally broadcast sermon Friday that leaders of the unrest be punished harshly and that some are "worthy of execution."


Oh, you mean as opposed to bigger tax cuts for the upper 1/3 of the nation? Really, still waiting f
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Bettery try that again or I'll get in trouble with
http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2006/09/saturday-cartoons.html
Conservative starting trouble
It is obvious this is a conservative trying to start trouble on the liberal board.  Who cares what you think about Senator Clinton?  Cast your vote and lets see how the country thinks..A level headed calm thinking democrat or a rash testosterone so out of touch with reality dangerous republican.  Oprah had a show on universal health insurance a few weeks ago and a professor was on and stated that when the conservatives want to scare the people or distract from programs to benefit the people, they say it is socialism.  Well, what I want to know is, what do you call the health insurance program the Congress has?  That most definitely is government health insurance, so I guess socialism?.  Well, if it is good enough for the Congress, it is good enough for the people. What do you call the govt programs that build bridges, roads, dams, run schools, etc., etc., etc..?  Socialism?  The govt must help the people of this country.  We pay our taxes and we have a right to govt programs to better the lives of the people of America.  I am so sick of conservatives and thankfully most of America is too.
I feel the same way about Obama. The trouble is...
we will all be holding the bag, just like we are for the bad mortgages...with all the other problems I have with him, the idea that he and the Democrats could have avoided this for us had they listened to McCain in 2005-2006 trumps them all. And it is amazing to me how all of you just excuse that...like it never even happened.
You seem to be having a little trouble staying on task.
Let's try this again. The subjct is guilt by association. The post you are answering listed Mc'Cain's associates as follows:

Just off the top of my head:
1. US Council for World Freedo. Can you say Iran contra? How about dong business with terrorists (the arms seller AND the arms customer)?
2. Phil Gramm, (co-chair of the McCain campaign), champion of Enron tax loopholes and author of Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that effectively neutralized any existing regulation of financial services industry. You remember good ole Phil. He's the one talking on McCain's behalf when he said we were having a "mental recession" and we have a nation of a bunch of whiners.
3. Gordon Liddy. That's the guy who got a 20-year sentence for his conviction of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping in the Watergate fiasco. m
4. Let's don't forget the Keating 5.
5. Richard Quinn, publisher of Southern Heritage ragazine for neo-confederates…unapologetic bigotry and proud of it!
6. Rick Davis, McCain CEO, lobbyist, paid $15,000 each month for "consulting" from end of 2005 until September 2008.

Let me spell out the issue at hand. If we are to infer that Obama embodies the phuilisophies of each and every single person or organization that he has ever encountered dring the corse of his lifetime, then we can infer the same about McCain. Are you with me so far? an appropriate, direct and credible response would not include the word democrat in it. It would deal with the issue at hand and with the list of pub snakes McCain pals around with.
McCain was having trouble speaking
McCain has had it. He lost it big time the minute he picked Palin. Oh sure the rallies got louder and the base was excited but people out there with common sense know what a mistake she is. She has a future in infomercials.
Gourdainter. I am having trouble linking to

Though this is the one rare subject on which you and I disagree (for reasons I totally get), still I am always interested in your insight.  I am wondering if you wouldn't mind posting it again.


geez. I am NOT trying to start trouble...
I am seriously, honestly asking what this means.  I didnt hear any audio and I dont live in Harlem and I am just curious what this means, if I am to take this how I THINK it sounds.  I do realize that I could be taking it wrong and so I am trying to reserve judgment until I know what it means. 
You posted this before. Trying to stir up trouble again? (nm)

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Yeah, I'm having trouble dealing

with the no-First-Dog thing too.  Maybe that was an attempt to humanize himself, since many people are said to like dogs and dog owners?  Then after the election he no longer needed to appear warm and fuzzy? 


I don't know, if you figure it out, let me know.  Just so terribly disappointed, I was really counting on that pooch. 


They're not happy unless they are starting trouble.

They don't want to debate.  All they want to do is attack and chase away people who don't agree with them.  They don't want liberals on their board, but they refuse to practice what they preach. 


This is the reason the administrator created a conservative and liberal board.  They have their own board, but that's not enough for them.  It's typical of how they must control everyone's thoughts and deeds and even which God they worship.