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The victim in a breakin is more likely to serve time than the theif

Posted By: Democrat on 2006-01-13
In Reply to: It's already happening in my city - vs

if they are shot in self defense in Alabama. Criminals have so many rights that if you shoot them in the back in your house you could be liable. If you shoot them and they fall out of your door, you could be liable. It's a joke.

As far as the child molesters, in a day and time of Jessica Lunsford and the Groene masacre, I don't see how a judge could let a child rapist walk with 60 days of jail time. He's dead wrong and the governer of Vermont needs to be the one to take the first stand to push for tougher laws so that judges can not skate on sentencing. It should be a mandatory 25 years for raping a child 12 and under, just like in Florida.


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oh yea, continue the horrors for the victim
Yes, make sure the mother has the baby of the person that raped her. Make sure she goes on for nine months every minute of the day remembering the horrible incident. A lot of rape victims want to commit suicide. Luckily most of them are able to get through it with counseling but most of them don't have a belly to show. But hey, let that belly get bigger. Let her feel the child of the person that committed the horendous crime and violated her body. Make sure she remembers that. Geez - why not just frame the rapists photo so she can see his picture every day. Then the cherry on the cake will be the actual birth when she can once again see the rapist once her baby is born.

And then we have the wonderful knowledge that a lot of times these tendencies are hereditary (not always but a lot of times). Would you want to raise a rapists child knowing that when he/she becomes an adult the likelihood of them committing the same crime against someone else is there.

Oh yes that's a nice 20-year sentance for the victim.
I am SO TIRED of minorities playing victim!
So the black firemen totally SUCKED on the test. Maybe they didn't study as hard. Or they weren't as smart to begin with. Or they got loaded the night before the big test. Who cares why the stunk on the test. The fact was they STUNK! I'm sure a lot of WHITE firemen sucked at it, too.

But, instead of people saying, gee, those guys sucked on the test, they decided to pretend like there was something wrong with THE TEST instead of the guys who sucked at it. For no other reason than a bunch of hard-working WHITE GUYS did better than the majority of other people.

Yet another example of how this country bends over backwards to help minorities. They don't want EQUAL rights - they want RIGHT-OF-WAY - as in - clear the decks, let the 'special cases' go to the front of the line.

It's pure and utter BS. Typical of the lunatics on the left to defend such racism, while still maintaining their oh-so-precious "victim" status.
And with this comment you'll continue to play the victim and
say its always and only the conservatives that are mean.
Who will serve best? sm

Anybody see any hypocrisy here?
by Sen. Howard W. Carroll

Democrats:
Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.
Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Sol dier's Medal.
Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
Chuck Robb: Vietnam
Howell Heflin: Silver Star
George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.
Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.


Republicans
These are the guys sending people to war


Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
Tom Delay: did not serve.
Roy Blunt: did not serve.
Bill Frist: did not serve.
Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
Rick Santorum: did not serve.
Trent Lott: did not serve.
John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
Jeb Bush: did not serve.
Karl Rove: did not serve.
Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. Bad knee. The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
Vin Weber: did not serve.
Douglas Feith: did not serve.
Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
Richard Shelby: did not serve.
Jon Kyl: did not serve.
Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
Christopher Cox: did not serve.
Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
Phil Gramm: did not serve.
John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
John M. McHugh: did not serve.
JC Watts: did not serve.
Jack Kemp: did not serve. Knee problem, although continued in NFL for 8 years.
Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
George Pataki: did not serve.
Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
John Engler: did not serve.
Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.


Pundits & Preachers
1 Sean Hannity: did not serve.
Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
Michael Savage: did not serve.
George Will: did not serve.
Chris Matthews: did not serve.
Paul Gigot: did not serve.
Bill Bennett: did not serve.
Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
Bill Kristol: did not serve.
Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
Ralph Reed: did not serve.
Michael Medved: did not serve.
Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)
John Wayne: did not serve.
Please keep this information circulating


Sen. Howard W. Carroll


Why subject the rape victim to a surgical abortion. Birth is safer. nm
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There are other ways to serve one's country
Some are big, and some are small. Just having a job, working hard and staying off welfare is one way. Being a legal immigrant and not an illegal one is another. Donating time and money to charities, philanthropic organizations (even the SPCA) are all little things that serve the greater good. Not committing crimes, voting in elections, working with the PTA, the local soccer team, or participating in 'cleanup day' in your town... those all count, too. I have the greatest respect and empathy for a man who served in the armed forces and suffered at the hands of the enemy. But that doesn't necessarily qualify him to lead the country in these particular times. In another time, perhaps. But not now. He's too old, his time is past, and his ideas (basically the same as Bush's, just painted over to look different) are outdated. They don't address the everyday problems this country and its people face today. His way has been tried, and it's not working very well. (Unless, of course, you breathe the rarified air of the wealthiest communities in the country.) Just about EVERYbody in the country needs a break, small & medium-sized businesses included, and there are ways to do that so that everyone benefits, and yet everyone pulls their fair share of the load.

If the everyday citizen of the country is doing better financially, and if big business is paying its share and not jumping through countless loopholes each tax season, then there's more money to support the country's infrastructure. We have potholed roads, rotting bridges, and our hospital emergency rooms are so overloaded with people with no health insurance, either there for their everyday care, or for the rash of gunshot casualties we have, that many of them have closed their doors.

So yes, it's time for a younger President and a fresh outlook, because what's gone on in the last decade or two has grown very, very stale.
At least he was brave enough to serve his country..
not like some politicians who dodge the draft.
Memory does not serve you correctly.
began long before the dems to control of Congress. Do some research before you spout your partisan blather. That is exactly what is wrong with this country and this board. You are too busy placing blame, whether deserved or not, to realize that you do not know the truth. You believe spin, not facts.

Look up Glass-Steagall, Gram-Leach-Blilley, toxic mortagages, and packaged derivatives if you really want to know how this began. If not, well continue to blather.

Don't bother to respond. I am not bothering to come back here. I thought this board would be different because it is MTs who use their brains for a living, but I guess MTs can be trolls too, as proven by a majority of the posts here. Luckily, I did find a board where, even though they disagree, they do so with logic, intelligence, and reason.

Good luck to you all. You are going to need it.

MOST people who serve in the military are
..
It will serve her well when she faces the pit bull on the other side...
can't wait.
You and she should apply to serve on Michelle Bachmann's McCarthyesque
so you can investigate dems in the Congress and Senate for unpatriotic subversion and help her define precisely what means to be and not to be an American and come up with some sort of homogenous morality that we can all follow. You two could be in charge of decency and common sense department.
Yep, but it was straight time. No time and a half
DHL is GERMAN OWNED.  And, company was located on Snotsdale, I mean Scottsdale, AZ which means.  Labor laws in Arizona suck.  Right to work state.  Basically a company can do whatever they want to do with you and if you do not like it, then quit and find another job.
same time?
Well, if these posts are showing up at the same time, how could it be me?  I cant post everywhere at the same time, LOL. You are idiots if you think that.  For you to even try to connect me with other posts..what for?  Dont you have better things to do with your time?  It makes me laugh that you actually have taken the time.  It would not even occur to me to try to link up your posts and initials with other posts and initials.  Gosh, guess I could take it as a compliment that you are spending so much time obsessing about me.  I have a better suggestion for your time.  Spend it researching this murderous lying administration.
Goes on all the time.
Does not surprise me at all, all politicians are crooks, that is why they had the wearwithall to get into it, smart, but all crooks.  Bill Clinton was a sex addict, no doubt, but he did more to help me than any other president.  I am a swing vote, I vote for the man not the party.  I don't like the current President, I can see he has no soul in his eyes, but yet, they claim they won "two elections", he only won one, and I still doubt that considering that his brother was the gov of one of the highest electoral votes.  But I do believe he won the last election, and his supreme court nomination has to be respected.  I am not happy with Dudley Do Right, but Dubya did win one election, (we think), and he as president has the right to appoint whomever he wants.
It's about time this was done
While I don't agree that this is all the president's fault, and while I think some of what these governors are doing is political positioning it's about time somebody does something about this.   A lot of the immigration could be handled at the state level other than the border patrol which is solely in the federal government's hand.  This is where we as citizens must demand our leaders both dem. and rep. to stand up and do their jobs, and this does include the president.  While I am a great fan of Bush this is one of the areas I think he's lacking in along with the majority of our leaders at the federal, state, and local levels.   I hope these states go one step further and call in the National Guard.  This is going to be the issue that I think will determine elections in 2006 and 2008 along with the issue of soaring gas prices and oil demand.
One time only
Where did she ever state she hated Bush?  Could you please post that article or lead me to it.  She wants to ask some tough questions which, obviously, he does not have the answers to.  I would like to know what our **mission** is too.  It changes so often.  Talk about flip flops.  I think we have had about four different reasons for pre-emptively invading Iraq and, of course, they still try to link Iraq to 9/11.  Didnt know it was written in stone that you can only meet with your servant, the president, one time.  However, it is working out okay, as most of America backs Cindy and quite a few Europeans too.  I think it is great that finally most of America is finding its voice once again and screaming to the warmonger in the WH, bring our troops home.  To stay the course is ridiculous but then, again, having invaded Iraq was monsterous and wrong, based on nothing but lies..That to me is RIDICULOUS BIG TIME. I also find it quite sad that Bush is taking a five week vacation, bicycling around his property, clearing brush, yet he cant spare 10 minutes or more to speak with Cindy and answer the questions she has, which many of us have..shows where his priorities are.  Last time I took a vacation was in 2000 and it was only a weekend.  This person in the WH is so out of touch with reality and the hopes, needs and worries of most Americans.  He is pathetic.
Once upon a time. sm
You and the rest of the nameless posters here hounded two posters from the conservative board.  And what you said and did to them was far far worse than this.  And then when they were gone, you rejoiced and sang songs, ding dong the witch is dead.  Remember?  ON THE CONSERVATIVE BOARD YOU SANG.  Hypocrits.
LOL! Nor did I (either time).
Too bad they're just not bright enough to see how pathetic and desperate they've become.  I've gotta admit, though, their idiocy does provide a LOT of laughs for me.  (I don't want to emphasize that because if they think they're doing ANYTHING to make my life more pleasant, they'll stop!)
Its about time!
 The 2005 International Commission of Inquiry
    on Crimes Against Humanity Committed by
    the Bush Administration of the United States

    The Bush Crimes Commission

    Friday 14 October 2005


    When the possibility of far-reaching war crimes and crimes against humanity exists, people of conscience have a solemn responsibility to inquire into the nature and scope of these acts and to determine if they do in fact rise to the level of war crimes and crimes against humanity. That is the mission of the International Commission of Inquiry on Crimes Against Humanity. The first session will be held October 21-22 in New York City. This tribunal will, with care and rigor, present evidence and assess whether George W. Bush and his administration have committed crimes against humanity. Well-established international law will be referenced where applicable, but the tribunal will not be limited by the scope of existing international law.


    The tribunal will deliberate on four categories of indictable crimes: 1) Wars of Aggression, with particular reference to the invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. 2) Torture and Indefinite Detention, with particular reference to the abandonment of international standards concerning the treatment of prisoners of war and the use of torture. 3) Destruction of the Global Environment, with particular reference to systematic policies contributing to the catastrophic effects of global warming. 4) Attacks on Global Public Health and Reproductive Rights, with particular reference to the genocidal effects of forcing international agencies to promote abstinence only in the midst of a global AIDS epidemic.


    The Commission's jury of conscience will be composed of internationally respected jurists and legal scholars, prominent voices of conscience, and experts and monitors in relevant fields. The tribunal's legitimacy is derived from its integrity, its rigor in the presentation of evidence, and the stature of its participants. Representatives of the Bush administration will be invited to present a defense.


    Prior to the meeting of the Commission, teams with sufficient expertise will prepare preliminary indictments in each of the four areas, setting forth the scope of the Bush administration's actions and how they contravene legal and moral norms for international behavior. At the meeting of the Commission, there will be four prosecution teams that organize the presentation of the evidence. This evidence will be documents as well as eyewitness testimony by victims and observers of the crimes alleged. The formal proceedings will be held in a public venue and all attempts will be made to publicize and broadcast its deliberations internationally. The Commission's jury of conscience will come to verdicts and its findings will be published.


    The holding of this tribunal will frame and fuel a discussion that is urgently needed in the United States: Is the administration of George W. Bush guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity? The Commission will conduct its work with a deep sense of responsibility to the people of the world.


    The Commission is sponsored by the Not In Our Name statement of conscience, joined by the following individuals and organizations:


  • James Abourezk, former United States Senator


  • As'ad AbuKhalil, professor of politics & public administration, California State University-Stanislaus


  • Dirk Adriaensens, Brussells Tribunal executive committee and coordinator SOS Iraq


  • Dr. Nadje al-Ali, social anthropologist at the University of Exeter, founding member of Act Together: Women's Action on Iraq  and member Women in Black UK


  • Anthony Alessandrini, organizer with the World Tribunal on Iraq and New York University Students for Justice in Palestine


  • Edward Asner


  • Russell Banks, novelist


  • The Rev. Luis Barrios, Ph.D., associate professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice & Anglican Priest


  • Amy Bartholomew, professor of law at Carleton University


  • Greg Bates, Common Courage Press


  • Phyllis Bennis, Institute for Policy Studies


  • Michael S. Berg, grieving father of Nick Berg killed in Iraq May 7, 2004, and one man for Peace


  • Ayse Berktay, from the organizing team of the World Tribunal on Iraq


  • William Blum, author of Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II and Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower


  • Francis Boyle, author of Destroying World Order and professor at the University of Illinois College of Law


  • Jean Bricmont, Brussells Tribunal executive committee


  • Marjorie Cohn, professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law and executive vice president of National Lawyers Guild


  • Lieven De Cauter, Brussells Tribunal executive committee


  • Patrick Deboosere, Brussells Tribunal executive committee


  • Michael Eric Dyson


  • Peter Erlinder, William Mitchell College of Law and lead defense counsel, United Nations Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, Arusha, Tanzania


  • Larry Everest, author of Oil, Power & Empire: Iraq and the U.S. Global Agenda and Behind the Poison Cloud: Union Carbide's Bhopal Massacre


  • Richard Falk, professor emeritus of International Law, Princeton, and Visiting Professor in Global and International Studies, UC-Santa Barbara


  • Thomas M. Fasy, MD, Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York City


  • Lawrence Ferlinghetti, member, American Academy of Arts & Letters and founder & editor in chief, City Lights Books, San Francisco


  • Ted Glick, former coordinator, Independent Progressive Politics Network


  • Dr. Elaine C. Hagopian, former president of Association of Arab-American University Graduates (AAUG) and primary founder of the Trans-Arab Research Institute (TARI)


  • Sam Hamill, director, Poets Against War


  • International Movement for a Just World (JUST), Malaysia


  • Abdeen Jabara, past president, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee


  • Dahr Jamail, U.S. independent journalist who has reported extensively from Iraq since the invasion


  • C. Clark Kissinger, contributing writer for Revolution and initiator of the Not In Our Name statement of conscience


  • The Reverend Doctor Earl Kooperkamp, Rector, St. Mary's Episcopal Church, West Harlem, New York City


  • Joel Kovel, editor-in-chief, Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Quarterly Journal of Socialist Ecology, and author of The Enemy of Nature


  • Jesse Lemisch, professor of history emeritus, John Jay College of Criminal Justice


  • Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun magazine and author of The Left Hand of God: Taking Back America from the Religious Right


  • New Jersey Civil Rights Defense Committee


  • New Jersey Workers Democracy Network


  • National Lawyers Guild


  • National Lawyers Guild, San Francisco Bay Area Chapter


  • Rev. Davidson Loehr, Ph.D., First Unitarian Universalist Church of Austin, Texas


  • Robert Meeropol, Executive Director, Rosenberg Fund for Children


  • Barbara Olshansky, deputy legal director of the Center for Constitutional Rights and author of Secret Trials and Executions


  • James Petras, professor emeritus of sociology at Binghamton University, New York


  • Jeremy Pikser, screenwriter


  • Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights and author with Ellen Ray of Guantanamo: What the World Should Know


  • Stephen F. Rohde, civil liberties lawyer and co-founder of Interfaith Communities United for Justice and Peace


  • Marc Sapir MD, MPH, co-convener of the UC Berkeley Teach In on Torture and executive director of Retro Poll


  • Sister Annette M. Sinagra, OP


  • State of Nature on-line magazine


  • Inge Van de Merlen, Brussells Tribunal executive committee


  • Gore Vidal


  • Anne Weills, civil rights attorney in Oakland, National Lawyers Guild


  • Leonard Weinglass, criminal defense attorney


  • Naomi Weisstein, professor emeritus of Neuroscience, State University of NY at Buffalo


  • Howard Zinn, historian


        --------

        The 2005 International Commission of Inquiry on War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration of the United States: Sessions take place Friday, October 21, 4-10pm, and Saturday, October 22, Noon-6pm, at the Grand Ballroom of the Manhattan Center, 311 W. 34th Street, New York City, NY.


Only time will tell. nm
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I never take time off.
My pursuit of literacy is as endless as my pursuit of honesty and integrity.
One mo time..... 1 example

This board will return to a dead state too




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Posted By: huh? on 2006-03-10,
In Reply to:
Oh, she revealed it on the Conservative Board - ??

The stupid rules have made these boards a place where only crickets chirp. Its sad that people are so childish and cannot discuss things like mature adults. This is why these boards will remain a snoozeville, because some people are not capable of mature conversation and get insulted by anyone who does not believe exactly like they do, but if you like it dead here...by all means enjoy the silence.


Well this time it is ..
someone else. Thanks for the holiday greeting. Merry Christmas to you too, and a happy, healthy, joyful new year.
One last time....

I watched a TV broadcast; it evoked thoughts in my mind. The thoughts irritated me. I FELT uneasy and I THOUGHT I could print the same on this board and why. This is, after all, still America despite the speech police and this is, after all still the liberal board.


I'm sorry you feel the need to throw the little personal zingers in.


In this day and time you really can't have it all...sm
There is always going to be something or someone out of sorts, so I say just do you (Mrs. Obama). No one else can do it for her. If I were in her shoes, I would do the same thing.
yes, but she has done it time and time again and yet. sm
She is castigating Obama for MAYBE changing his mind.  So what's with that?
I will try this one more time...
There IS money for childrens' health care, if we prioritize. Anyone with half a brain knows there is waste galore in the social programs we have now. They are not administered properly, rules are not followed, people get on who should not thereby taking the funds for people who really need them. All I suggested is that they go ahead and do the cigarette tax, and then prioritize how to spend the rest of the social funding and make sure childrens' health care goes first. As to agreeing or disagreeing to the war...won't go there as childrens' health insurance seems to be the issue. If they would clean up the SCHIP program now and get all the illegals off it, there would be that much more funding for insuring American children. Then if the illegals want to get legal, seek citizenship and pay taxes into the system like the rest of us, then yes, I think their children should be covered too. I really don't see why Democrats seem to have a problem with prioritizing spending. We do it on a personal basis every day; why can't the government do it with OUR tax money? We all know we can't do everything we would like to do. Therefore we should do the most important things first. That is just common sense. Just like parents are not made of money where their own families are concerned, the government (that being your tax dollars and mine) is not made of money either...and prioritization as far as social programs needs to be done. I really don't see why everyone seems to have a problem with that.
Sorry...it would not have been the first time...
a poster used the same moniker and posted as liberal and conservative...guess they like to start a fight and then watch it develop...kinda like people who flock to wrecks. lol. Could not be sure that was not the case and still cannot be sure...but I will take your word for it. lol.
Well, time will tell...

I couldn't disagree more.  I think Obama is going to be torn apart if he is the nominee, more so than Clinton would.  Really, I just do not like the guy.  I think he is totally arrogant, along with his wife , and I do not believe for a minute that he is honest.  Of course, Clinton isn't either.  They're both lousy.


Yes, Ron Paul is out of the race...that's what I said, loooool.  In my opinion, he was the only person who ran that would be worthy of the presidency.


How do you know how much time she

THere is a first time for everything. :)
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did that the first time.
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next time they have a

cuddle session for the cameras he can whisper it into Bush's soft, pink shelllike ear.


 


Yes, because you have had some time...
to make up your mind. They are registering people who have never really thought about it until that minute. And then putting them on a bus to go vote hearing Obama speech all the way there. Now you tell ME if that is fair. If you heard Republicans were doing that you would be yelling voter fraud at the top of your lungs. Who knows if these people are EVEN eligible to vote? The people registering them aren't asking. They are just signing them up.

Don't you think that greatly increases the chance of voter fraud?
still time
Before the first vote the email boxes and switchboards were flooded. I wonder if the same is true for this 2nd vote. Urge everyone you know to continue to contact the officials for their districts. I failed to contact my senator before the 2nd vote, but he did vote no on it. You can bet I have not neglect to contact our representative! I am asking, begging, everyone to please do the same and to ask everyone you know to do the same while there is still a little time.
Unfortunately, I did the first time. sm
Woke up before his second term. He did campaign on small government.
why, you need more time?
xx
Of course you won't take the time because
you can't find the facts to back up your words.

The words are on the pages, unless you're saying those words are lies as well.

I can give you Muslim after Muslim who will tell you after leaving those countries to learn abroad, they only then realized Christianity is a good thing and teaches love, something their Q'ran does not.
When was the last time your mom
How many times have you been divorced? Do you have any friends with triple-digit IQs?
Time will tell
I doubt that sincerely. I love your criteria...The way he walks? Perpetual smirk? What the? It's nothing compared to Bubba's s***-eatin grin. And the Dems just LOVE him. His presidency was an embarrassment.

Thank you! Any time!

Too bad ignorance isn't painful.  Love those drive-by media types.  They're about as subtle as a trainwreck!


Libs are so angy and bitter all the time.  Also, let's not forget ACORN, voter fraud, the stolen election, etc.  The list goes on and on.  If McCain-Palin win, just watch what happens.  It'll be that crap all over again.


 


I don't have time either but
looking at McCain's voting record I was shocked.  Hadn't checked it before but looked to me like he hadn't voted since sometime in early  2007 if then.  No bashing, just checking facts for myself.
there was never such a time
Sex before marriage has been happening for all times, as has abortion. If we go back to a time that didn't happen, we would go back to a time when there were no humans...
Seriously, I don't have time to go

through and post every single link that has been posted on these boards in the last 60 days or so.  It's my responsibility to be an educated voter, as is yours.  Unfortunately, you didn't read my post very well or you would have seen that my beef isn't who you're voting for, it's the constant denial of both party's accusations.  I know that neither candidate is perfect, and who I choose to vote for is my choice.  My post was to gourdpainter specifically because GP seems to change her vote from day-to-day and when given the info she constantly asks for, she consistently denies it as "horsepuckey" or argues to the point of fatigue.  I'm tired of it.  Vote for who you want, but quit asking others for validation of your vote. 


I'm secure in my vote.  My reasons are my reasons.  I don't expect your approval or anyone else's when I get in that little booth.  Take your anger and spew it elsewhere.  I'm not interested. 


Too bad you can see that the post was directed to GP and not you.  I'm guessing that you just like to argue, too.


Big time
*
Time to get over yourself
Apparently you slept through the last 8 years.

Was Obama the right choice? Maybe, Maybe not but I can tell you have have choked long enough on the crap that has been tube fed to all of us by the Bush administration. Something has to change.

By the way... the banking fiasco? You should point the finger where it needs to be pointed. The people who can't seem to live within their means.

The pie man is selling pies. Does that mean you absolutely MUST buy one? Don't be ridiculous!
Exactly when was the last time....
you saw American "casualties," as they like to call them on the news?  Did you see the HUGE protests in Great Britian when Bush went there?  No.  That would be due to government censorship.  There's a difference between that and liberal media.  This is not a partisanship issue!  For a long time most of the world has hated US government but had sympathy for its citizens.  Why?  Because in thier eyes we are ignorant to what goes on in the rest of the world, even what WE do in the rest of the world. 
OK one more time
My point was this..... HE SAID IT WAS REQUIRED.  He said this on HIS website.  Does required not mean mandatory?????  I read his website with my two eyes and it said REQUIRED.  He would REQUIRE this.  I am not against community service.  My children are involved in our community.  They CHOOSE to do this.  My post is about O REQUIRING this. 
It's about time for a
than YouTube. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

or perhaps this one

http://chicagoist.com/2008/12/04/obama_birth_certificate_case_heads.php

I especially like the part about how the Supreme Court only heard 60 of the 842 cases presented to it in the past 8 years....and not all of the 60 were successful. That would give your BC nonsense about a 7% chance of being heard....actually less, since it is so patently ridiclous.
It might be time to
get over the stuff about who O hung around with and his B/C and get to the business of TRYING to head off what is coming.  You can bet your boopers that McCain/Palin are right there in bed with Bushes/Clintons/Obamas.  Or...you can keep railing about how things would have been different with your beloved McCain/Palin.  Wouldn't have made a nickle's worth of difference.  I can admit that I was wrong in thinking Obama MIGHT do good but I for darned sure am not going to turn over and wish I had voted for McCain.  There is still no doubt in  my mind he was and is in Bush's pocket.  I only HOPED Obama would not be part of destroying what little is left of our constitution and our country.  He isn't even in office yet but I see the handwriting on the wall and it is NOT GOOD.  Won't surprise me to see McCain in Obama's cabinet.
I think it is time to get out of MT all together.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,453825,00.html


What would this do to us MT's if doctors are quitting?


Maybe physical therapy would be a good field?