They are this naive. That is the scariest part.
Posted By: O crowd booing man in wheelchair too.no class.nm on 2009-01-20
In Reply to: Yeah, war is just gonna stop, POOF! No more war! - Lu
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Joe Biden? LOL -the scariest of them all.
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Are you really that naive? SM
Cindy Sheehan wants Bush to bring the troops home...NOW. Oh, I forgot, the left doesn't care about the people left behind. We know this how? Can you say Vietnam?
maybe they let the naive
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I am not naive enough to think that this is
just dems. I know that there are a lot of people in our government who have found this loophole and that loophole and aren't paying what they should either. I personally think it wouldn't hurt for all of them to undergo a little investigation just to see who is paying up and who isn't, but that won't happen.
I do have to admit that I get tired of dems wanting to raise taxes when it is the rich that always have loopholes to get out of paying taxes. All that does is hurt the middle class and the lower class.
I personally think that we should get rid of all of these silly deductions and have a flat tax. You made X amount this year and you pay X amount in taxes. No loopholes.....no nothing....that is it....PERIOD.
Not naive at all
but criminally calculating in his agenda to *remake* america in his own image. everything he does (especially where it appears he has not considered the consequences) is a move toward fulfilling this agenda.
he was not naive in releasing the initial memos on gitmo detainee interrogation. these made the previous administration and national security agencies look bad. his decision not to release further details came about because he now realizes how this would boomerang back on him as president, not out of national security concerns.
That comment is very naive. sm
Things are deleted from the Internet all the time. I've even done it, had posted once on a medical site, and went and deleted what I posted a year later....the link was still there, but nothing will link to it.
Obama campaign/backers/DNC have been practicing obfuscation on a daily basis.
Do you think it is just the dems? That is a little naive - nm
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Another thing. And call me naive (sp), but sm
I think there is a big difference in liberal and Democrat. I mean, what happened to the Democrats of long ago? In my neighborhood I have a wonderful old-lady friend who is in her 80s who is the most godliest woman I know. She is just amazing. She said she was born a Democrat and will die a Democrat. A lot of her friends are the same age and they vote Democrat because they are still living ithe days of Kennedy and the "good ole Democrats." You know, the Zell Miller type of Democrat.
I think that liberalism is an extreme sect all on its own. I don't view my neighbor as liberal at all, in fact more conservative if anything, yet she votes Democrat. These are the ones whom I believe are Christians and believe in God, but they are not liberals.
The liberals I knew were the Yale, Harvard or Brown University liberals which my Democratic friend is not.
In fact, if you ask my friend she is adamantly against abortion and homosexual marriage.
If the old Democratic party would return I would probably switch to that party, but you will never see me voting for the liberals who are in office today. Big difference. I think JFK is turning over in his grave over what has happened to his party.
I am always amazed at how naive some people are....s/m
He's doing this to enable his admistration, and Congress, the ability to take this country as far and hard to the left, and as fast as he possibly can.
He has a purpose, and it's not for the good welfare of our country.
It's to put our entire country "ON" welfare, and grow the government. This is a major takeover, and you're right about one thing.
He's as transparent as glass to the rest of us.
And we don't want what he's about to bring us to, to our knees with government control over every aspect of our lives.
At least I have the comfort of knowing I didn't vote for him.
Obama is criminally naive.
"Upholding our values will protect us from terrorism."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.bd0713f4765981d1edbe5b522ce08354.3e1&show_article=1
Hello? Wake up, you dipwad. It is precisely our values that terrorists hate.
Umm...and even if they didn't, please explain just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely (since we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office), just which of the numerous American values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event? Was it the mess on the dress perhaps? Or do ya think it might have been failing to get after bin Laden when he had the chance? Huh?
Your reasoning abilities are so pathetic that they amount to a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. He is utterly unfit to serve.
your view is naive, short-sighted and simplistic
I don't want to get caught up in a debate here. Americans can buy whatever they want. You are right. But then when your job is gone, don't complain about it because you fed the problem instead of solving it. If you don't support American companies, you are supporting some other economy instead of your own. How can the American economy ever survive if Americans do not support it? There is a bigger picture here, and I believe you are missing it. The failure of the automakers would affect every other business and service in this country, including ours, by a ripple effect. So when you lose your job because the number of hospital and physician visits is reduced since none of them has insurance anymore and no one can afford medical care anymore, remember what you said here. If they fail, we all will lose from it.
Obama is criminally naive. "Upholding our values
Umm...and just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely, we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office. So which of the numerous values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?
Pathetic reasoning - a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. Unfit to serve.
Obama is criminally naive. "Upholding our values
Umm...and just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely, we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office. So which of the numerous values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?
Pathetic reasoning - a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. He is utterly unfit to serve.
You lefties are so naive. Obama has plans for worse for our nation.
I throw it right back at you: Blind, in denial, naive, conservative pub...nm
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only part saved was the ignorant part
You can read the whole article. This quote was saved to show what she said that was so stupid.
I think you are right, but only in part...sm
The bigotry is the other part. What escapes you was the FACT pointed out in this article that blanks are disproportionately denied parole when their white counter parts are allowed parole time for their crimes. No bigotry there...maybe not???
Another sad part...s/m
Yes, due in part to a "surge" there is less violence in Iraq at this time. How long will this last? I certainly do not know. What will the situation be in Iraq in 2 to 5 years? I certainly don't know, but my gut tells me that you cannot go into another region of the world, bomb it extensively, ruin the lives of so many people, impose your will in trying to "plant the flag of democracy" in a region that does not want that, and have a good outcome. It was a terrible mistake in invading Iraq, and I don't see a good or happy outcome long term. That's my opinion.
I got to this part
A reduction in the violence does not mean that things are “going well,” only that they are going “less badly.”
-And I loved it! Exactly.
Here's the sad part...
You came across this article. You read it. You believed it and posted it because:
a) it said what you believe and
b) we (liberals) must believe it too because it is from a Democrat who is against the war.
Did you not question the validity of the statement? It came from an opposer, so it must be true? Do you believe everything you read simply because it says what you want to hear?
If the article had stated his specific reasons for believing so, I would have been more inclined to believe to be true. But again, it was a blanket article that says very little except his opinion. I think the article is short sighted and your posting it most refutable.
All that it did was convince me further that all your postings do is to try and take the very complex issue of Iraq and over simplify it to justify your war position. Not unlike what the Bush administration has done from day one in regards to dealing with it.
No one with half a brain believes that the progresses being made in Iraq is soley due to the troop surge, and there is plenty of documentation out there to disprove this theory.
Wasn't that the intent of your posting? Try to convince others that the surge is working? It didn't work. We are not that gullible.
I am most happy and pleased about the small gains that are being made, and I recognize them for what they are. But I am also realistic enough to know that those gains can disappear tomorrow regardless of the increased forces because there is no real stability established in the country. Our military is not the one who is going to create that stability. It is just a superficial band-aid at best. It is going to remain a hostile territory until the Iraqi people decide for it not to be and that has to come from reconciliation on the three parties involved. It won't make any difference how many troops we have there.
No I'm sure that part won't be on there. sm
I like to go to Huff and read the stuff, most it makes me laugh, the blogs; but ya gotta take it all with a grain of salt. Thanks for geting my point about the whole post, it being about Fox news and not about McCain or Obama.
I feel that with all of the side stuff, both sides are like little kids bickering, we are forgetting about everything that is important. I am so tired of both sides bashing the other, it is a waste of time and money.
I think it is all part of the......... sm
"American Dream" picture and White House tradition as well. Remember Molly, Barbara Bush's dog? I think Molly got more attention than George did at times.
Part 2
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings.
The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the
taxidermist leaves the skin.
Mark Twain
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill
the world with fools.
Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)
There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress.
Mark Twain
What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.
Edward Langley, Artist (1928 - 1995)
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
enough to take everything you have.
Thomas Jefferson
but part of what got us here
is many, many people abusing the system and getting free handouts when they should have been working.
The problem with our nation is the mentality that everyone is owed something. There is no pride in hard work anymore! And yes the rich thing they are owed loop holes, and the poor think they are owed handouts, and well the middle class is just p.o.'d at both of them!
Unfortunately if we start taxing the heck out of the rich they will just cut jobs from the middle class who pays taxes and then the poor who receive handouts won't be taken care of because we won't have any tax money left!
Before anyone gets mad, I understand completely that their are poor people who need help, and that doesn't bother me. The welfare system was originally created for single mothers though, not single mothers and their babies daddy and for the mothers to have 14 babies so the community to take care of them!
Here's a good idea for creating jobs: hire more caseworkers to investigate everyone on welfare and the ones that are abusing it lose it, which puts money back into the system for those that need it! The ones that abuse it should have to do community service to make up for it!
The sad part about this....(sm)
is that it's gonna get a lot worse than this before it gets better. As far as staying in their homes until they get arrested, some of them may not have any other choice if they don't have anywhere to go. If they go to jail, at least they have a roof over their heads. I don't think Obama's housing plan covers those who have already been evicted, but they need some kind of relief. At least ACORN is trying to help them, regardless of how they're going about it. What a mess.
You mean the part about
many officials who fear that the government will squander its takings, and so propose returning the money to citizens in the form of tax rebates or cuts, an idea known as "cap-and-dividend".
Yep, I am "enlightened" alright!!
Got it now. Had to use only the .com part
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now I don't get the part where I
tried to change the subject as usual. I don't believe I am familiar with you at all as I don't remember ever chatting with you before, an endeavor which I am starting to think is not worthwhile anyway. I left this board a long time ago because of the constant bickering and mudslinging. Perhaps I have made an error trying it again. You consequently have not answered a question I had. In a nutshell, would you have objected a few years ago had he directed these kids to a liberal webside? If you are objecting on this behalf you would be just as wrong.
AW, you are part of a team.
People get mad at me sometimes because they think I am too harsh with conservatives - and I'm talking about liberals and progressives. You know though what we're up against. You can't be too harsh with them. Look at what they do. They've been getting away with it for a long time and enough is enough. They refuse to act like normal human beings and they shouldn't be treated like normal human beings. You could run away from a swarm of angry bees or vacate a house that was overrun with cockroaches and you'd be right to do so - but please even if you leave here, don't stop pegging these people. These kind of cockroaches are trying to overrun the world. I know you know who they are and I hope you won't be able to stay silent when they come scurrying around! I really hope you will stay here and keep adding your voice. In no way on no day should these people be allowed to remain unchallenged.
I think we agree for the most part
however, from what I heard of the tapes I don't think this teacher was just throwing his opinions out there. He was teaching them as fact. I think even if he was transferred to a political science class then he would still need to tone down his rhetoric several notches. You can teach any class from an objective point of view with very little effort. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, however, I think teachers need to be very careful about much of their own opinion they teach to students.
This is the part of a sermon that I can do without...sm
But this lady takes it to a whole new level. Passing out!? That's a class act.
Yep, I read that part...
and probably the difference in the cost is split between the difference in what the doctors make in both places, and if there is some sort of a cap on services...meaning, the insurance plan tells the doctor that is what you get for that particular service. No negotiation, no nothing. That is the only way I can think of that the streamlined disbursement system would work. If they do not have clerical personnel handling it, that tells me they have specific charges for specific services, regardless. That would be another sticky wicket on this side of the pond with the medical profession.
Another thing mentioned, and why the French physicians are okay to charge less...medical school in France is tuition-free. There will be another huge hit on the American taxpayer....can you even imagine the cost of that on the front end?
Like I said, it looks good on the face...one would be interested in knowing how long it took from inception to where it was "working well" and the dollar cost involved in the conversion and the ongoing maintenance.
I wonder, when they apply the "broad tax on earned and unearned income" if the French people will love it as much as they do now. It is a consideration...
Not meaning to be a fly in the ointment, kam...just looking at in stark reality.
Have a good day!
What part of this are you not understanding
I just read a bunch of posts below and am not disturbed, but maybe dismayed is a better word. Whether you trust Obama or not because of his policies, voting record, political life, or whatever is your perogative (sp?), but to incorrectly be making statements not based on anything but milicious rumors spread around leads readers to believe the writer is a biggot and just does not want a black man (which I should state once more 1/2 black, 1/2 white) in the white house. I have no doubt if more of the white race came out and he looked more white than black a lot of this would not be surfacing.
First - Obama is NOT muslim. You can think all you want and hope it to be true but what part of the facts don't you understand. How many times does he have to repeat he is a Christian. Always has been. Raised in a Christian home, white grandparents, white mother, went to catholic school, attended a Baptist church, married in a church (not Moslim), children baptised in a church. To say he is a muslim is like saying McCain belongs to KKK after all he's a white dude. Pullease. Sure, his father was a muslim when he married Obama's mother but that's where it stops. Obama never studied the muslim religon or went to muslim services. My parents are catholics but I was not raised catholic and am not catholic. His mother later remarried someone from Indonesia and Obama attended a catholic school. Get your facts straight. He never went to a muslim school or studied muslim studies and he is not muslim. So what if the muslims like him, so do the Christians, Jews, Mormoms, Baptists, and many other religions!
Second of all on the flag thing. Obama's plane has the American flag on it, are you upset because the flag is not so huge it covers the plane from one end to the next? There's a flag there! Also, just because he doesn't have an american flag plastered all over the place on everything does not mean he is not "American". Have you seen him pledge to a flag of another country? No, he pledges to the American flag! As for the picture that he is standing not with his hand over his heart. I can't tell you how many times I've said the pledge of allegience and I didn't have my hand over my heart every time. Doesn't mean I'm not American. He's not trying to get rid of the American flag, but for pete's sake it doesn't need to be plastered in every square inch of empty space.
The poster who is not well informed about Obama's religion and trying to scare people into believing he's muslim when he's not is just plain wrong. It doesn't "ruffle any feathers" because you are just wrong. You may not want to "sugar coat any facts" but first you need to get the facts straight. People don't "hate" republicans, and certainly not enough that they would want "anything" in there. You could always put that statement on the other foot "People just hate the democrats so much they'll elect an old senile person to fill the position just as long as a democrat doesn't get in there". That excuse just doesn't sit well.
I'm no "Obama-lover" and I won't be voting for him but not because of malicious rumors on the internet or false statements made by the republican side. I'm basing my decision on his voting records and other issues that I don't agree with him on, certainly not from anything I get off the internet. You know there are people on both sides who hate the other candidate so much they are posting fall information, but for anyone to spread this...all I can say is "shame on you".
What part of we got other issues do you
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actually, in answer to the last part,
I do believe I heard him say he was going to consult with his wife and grandmother! McCain was going to consult with the generals. Agree with the rest of your post.
PS. Forgot the part about "I don't think
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Yes....I was only replying to the part about using her name....
I think that is why people use her name. As to what she thinks, of course no one knows what she thinks...can guess, I suppose, but no one really knows.
I think the statement Obama made was great. He was forceful, no beating around the bush, I didn't think he did it because of politics, I think he meant it. I am not an Obama supporter, but the man was a class act when he made that statement. Hats off to him.
Wow. Looks like I missed that part.
One blurb just said Bush will speak via satellite and RG was "bumped." Still curious about why. Please post if you hear anything.
Medical was part of it......... sm
The foreign car workers have, I believe, national insurance coverage so that does not figure into the workers' benefits from the company. The figure being negotiated with the UAW was the amount that the foreign companies pay their workers. I don't believe health care would be a part of the package for the UAW.
If you don't vote, you are part of the
problem....It saddens me that you take your freedom, or what's left of it, so lightly. If you allow others to vote for you, you are giving your rights away. Politics is always a dirty business, but it's not politics you are voting for. Hoping you reconsider.
The Sickest Part.........
Is the fact that most pubs probably did the same name-calling and pandering in the last election as they are doing right now. Look what it got you. George Bush. Are you proud of him? Has he been a success? Would you even ADMIT that you voted for him? McCain isn't proud of him. The whole party is trying to pretend he doesn't even exist. He didn't even speak at the convention - he was "wired" in because he INSISTED. How sad. He was used like TP and now he is being flushed. Now you want to put another puppet in the whitehouse. Some shuffling, suffering, old man who looks like he can barely move - I am sure he is in pain. And you have his running mate one HEARTBEAT AWAY........who has governed a state with a population the size of Memphis, TN. THAT'S executive experience!!!!!! NO, it is absolutely TERRIFYING! If you keep expounding the same lies over and over - the simple ones start to believe them. If those bozos win - I hope I can afford to leave this country (you can keep your comments about "no one will miss you" as your hate is not welcome or necessary). I'll move to Mexico and tell the Mexicans they are more than welcome to overrun this country because that is what it will become, a third world country. The rich and the poor and nothing in between.
The sickest part
I totally agree..besides, I certainly would not want a VP whose former brother-in-law Tasered his own stepson (now THAT's sick)!!
(See story in today's Yahoo! site
Now did I say the "pubs" had no part in it?
This article says an untruth when it says: Mr. McCain was never a leading critic or defender of the mortgage giants.
This is what McCain said in 2005 with his proposed legislation:
Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
The Democrats killed that bill.
Barney Frank, Democrat, pushed fannie/freddie to extend those subprime loans to minorities/lower income people who did not have a hope in heck of paying them back.
Top CEOs at fannie...Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, James Johnson, and timothy Howard...two of who were Obama advisors until recently....all left Fannie with millions and we are left holding the bag. Chris Dodd, democratic head of banking and commerce committee...looked the other way. He is top recipient of donations from Fannie. Guess who is #2?
Pubs may have had a finger in it...Democrats had both hands up to the elbows in it. Just plain old fact.
Exactly what part of the video do you....
consider a conspiracy? The Chris Dodd part? The Barney Frank part? The Franklin Raines part? All denying that there was a problem with fannie/freddie? Which part of that is the conspiracy? SOme nasty Republican holding a gun to their heads to make them say it?
Perhaps the disclosure of which politicians were most in the fannie pocket? That part?
Or maybe the part where the bills introduced by the Republicans (named and numbered and easily verified) trying to regulate fannie/freddie only to be shot down by the Dems? That part? The part where McCain said on the senate floor we better wake up? That part?
Which part was it?
And what part of two-faced do you use to
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What part of he has already been investigated don't
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What part of the evident below do you not
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I know, I don't think religion should be part of it either (sm)
But if McCain had been attending a white supremist church that hated African-Americans and had a minister who spewed hatred, and he had attended that church for 20 years and called the minister one of his mentors.....who would vote for him?? No black person, no non-caucasian person, and at least 90% of whites would not vote for him either!
This is the part where I realize just how little
going on besides the "economy" thing that everyone has their minds wrapped around so much it doesn't allow them to see anything else and every time Obama is questioned about something he wants to sidestep, he shoots back to that horrible economy that he knows so many can't think past.
You'll just have to pay attention, dive in, and connect the dots. I'm tired of doing it for you.
what part of reading don't you get?
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this is part of the problem
God forbid somebody mention God. They are talking about God in this election. Don't read those posts if it offends you. To some people God is relevant in this election
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