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True Christians strive to be Christ-like, loving, tolerant...sm

Posted By: mother teresa on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: true Christians - CB

nonjudgemental, understanding, washing the feet of the lowliest citizen, feeding the hungry, living life without always saying me, me, me. I could think of a lot of adjectives that would describe what being a Christian means to me but I am seeing none of that here from people whose greatest claim is that they are devout Christians. I hear only fear, lies, hate, biogotry and defensiveness instead of love, truth, hope and light in Jesus name.


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If we as Christians believe we have the truth, and that following Christ is the true way......sm
why are so many Christians so insecure? Why so paranoid? Don't you think Jesus will take care of it all? Where does it say that "we" have to be "dominant", Christianity is a lifetime philosphy, a way of life, a calling for the soul, why do you think we must be the most populous in the country? When Christianity started out it was a tiny, obscure "and left wing" type of religion, even labeled an insane cult, but it cretainly thrived, even with rabid Roman prosecution....God even put His seat on earth, supposedly, in Rome, is that no irony, and does it not show the might of the Lord? Perhaps the percentages will change in the future between the major religions, but in the end, belief of a higher power, belief in goodness, honesty, truth, kindness, charity, love, equity, righteousness, morals....all fo that was not "copywrited" from the Christians. Jesus, his family, his followers were all Jews, Jesus NEVER renounced Judaism, just the hypocritcal sects that had grown up in the temples, and the apostes saw Christianity as an addition of rules and precepts from the Master IN ADDITION to their Jewish heritage.....If we are strong in our faith, we should not worry about what percent of population is Christian.
Wow what a loving, tolerant, and compassionate

little liberal you are...NOT.  You just wished me dead.  How sweet!


Not tolerant of people who mislead and slander, invent fiction and then say it's true.

True Christians?!?!?
This is JOKE, right?? An article out of MAD Magazine or something???
true Christians
I consider myself a true Christian. I was baptized in the Southern Baptist Church when I was 11, and converted to Presbyterian Church USA as an adult, where I am an ordained Elder and Deacon. I am voting for Obama.

I am pro-choice and pro gay civil unions. The bible talks a lot more about tithing than it does about homosexuality (we just had a great sermon on this, but I don't remember the exact number difference.) Most Christians aren't up in arms for those who don't tithe. Homosexuality has been around forever, as has abortion (performed by midwives, etc., using herbs and other methods.)

I am married, with 2 children. I have never had to make the choice on abortion and hopefully never will. I hope my daughter never has to make this choice, but I sure as h@ll want it to be available to her if she does.

I think marriage is up to the individual churches, and many churches do perform gay marriages. I think that the government should allow civil unions. I really don't care what 2 people come together as a couple. I wish them all the love and happiness and support I have had in my own marriage for 21+ years.

How dare you say I am not a true Christian because my beliefs are different from yours. Christians come in many "flavors" and you are free to believe as you wish, and I don't think you are more or less Christian because of it.

I agree with the other posters, religion and politics don't mix and never should.
Most true Christians perform their works and
They don't want or expect recognition and prefer to donate anonymously. The generalizations on this board are extremely troubling to me, toward both parties.
Christian my foot......true Christians do not
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I read the one only true Testament of our Lord Jesus Christ, who was infallible Lord....sm
and I am not, and thank you for calling attention to that; I was paraphrasing Paul in his letter to the Hebrews, but my point is still from my heart, the deceptions that went on during the former administration are still causing ruin and death as we speak, and if you chose laugh at me, that is fine, The flamers on this board love to feign superiority, which I belive is against the Bible as Pride, one of the 7 deadly sins, no? I was asking if posters who want to make inflammatory, ridulous remarks could just TRY to confine their comments and posts to pure facts, and then political discussions can bear fruit and have some intelligence and merit. I am working hard as I am writing this, so forgive me if distracted. It is all just noise, rhetoric, and one-upmanship otherwise, while the country crumbles further. Thanks for correcting me, I will double check Mr. Dunniger's quotes.
We should all strive to be like your husband
he will outlive all of us with this bickering back and forth. People who take life as it comes live longer.

I am opinionated so I am talking about me too. However, I do practice be more objective or maybe the word is more diplomatic and just hope practice makes perfect before I give myself a stroke with all of my strong opinions.

The tolerant party is often the least tolerant among us.
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Wellthe Klan might thing their Christians but real Christians don't consider them that sm

They are a radical group calling themselves Christians, like AL Queda calls themselves Muslim. 


No not Christians, just far right wing radical Christians who,,,sm
believe that God speaks directly only to them and do not welcome anyone who does not have their beliefs.
Just loving it
Liars always trip up eventually.  They lie and lie and lie and eventually they cant keep all the lies together and they are caught, LOL..Sit back,  American Woman, and enjoy the unraveling of the dinosaurs, LOL..Im loving it!!
Loving someone
doesn't give you the right to marry them. Everything in life has restrictions and it's important so as to avoid chaos and turmoil which is exactly what homosexuals would like to see. No holds barred. No rules. Giving a homo the right to marry is like giving a blind person the right to drive. Just because a blind person has the "love" and "desire" to get behind the wheel doesn't mean he he has the capabilities. Any man in the universe can sodomize another person or any object he so desires or has the nerve to try. Any woman in the universe can use tongue, fingers and objects for sexual gratification. It still doesn't constitute a "marriage" as there is 0% chance of conception and it doesn't matter how much "LOVE" is thrown in the mix. A marriage is made up of a couple who possess the parts necessary to conceive, whether it happens or not. Those who want to drive blind are just a danger to society. ;-)
I am loving this like you would not believe
Remember all these people who held in in such high esteem for her morality God fearing self, used the kids and then when Palin became pregnant had the nerve to bring Levi out on the stage too. See it always looks better with white folks if they are "engaged" rather than just shacking so if it is put like that then the couple is "accepted" at least more in this case. I don’t give a flip about the girl's pregnancy- I am laughing about this MORAL woman letting Levi shack up with her daughter in their home, my, oh, my....I guess SPalin can come back now and say well they were engaged and to be wedded. Big HAHA
Yeah, loving your spin

MT was answering a POLL, not actively saying she was going back to Iraq.  Any idiot could see that except people who have spin reality to suit their liking which goes on here all the time.


 


what I'm loving is the idea that BOTH SIDES
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Can't believe you used the words loving and caring in the middle of that post.
What, pray tell, is spewl?  Making up words? 
MTPockets posted about SP loving to fire people.
MTPockets could've just kept her post to the issue, but she had to throw in the barb about firing, so the next poster has every right to address it. Or is what she is referencing over your head?
Looks like a loving father thanking his kids for inspiring him
getting them ready for their journey there with him, talking about where they have been, how they got to where they are and where they are going from here.

My sympathy to those not able to come along for the ride.
The other **loving** statement Barbara Bush made in 2003

Ignorant fool that she is.


Why should we hear about body bags and deaths, Barbara Bush said on ABC's Good Morning America on March 18, 2003. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?


Tolerant and non-judgemental my a$$


and we don't have to be *tolerant* of libs
pushing their ideals down our throat or down our children's throats in public school either....
You do not seriously consider yourself tolerant of other views, do you?
what a joke.
No tolerant teachings at all.......
Their teaching...

The first sura of the Qur'an is an example of this. It is a short prayer that is repeated by devout Muslims each day and ends with these words:

Keep us on the right path. The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors. Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray. (1:6-7)


Muhammad was once asked if these words pertained to Jews and Christians. His response was, "Whom else?" (Bukhari 56:662).
Mighty tolerant huh? sm
No problem with gay marriage but religious prejudice up the butt.

California is my home state and I left because of BS like this.
Yes, I think Christ himself
a great deal of their **holier than thou** hate-speech caca. After all, he was the very essence of love and forgiveness, knew the hypocrites all too well and said, *Judge not lest ye be judged* Funny how His own words somehow are forgotten, huh? What about the hypocrisy of taking from the poor to give to the wealthy? Was Christ as a humble, poor person himself not a champion of the poor? I sure don't remember a that he said *Blessed are the warmongers*
Obviously you don't know much about Christ
He did speak out against wrong doing and sometimes LOUDLY and with force. Don't forget the moneychangers' tables. Maybe you don't know what that was about but that was a HUGE thing in Jesus' time and doing so took great courage. Are you saying he hated because he disapproved of what they were doing? He never said let wrongdoing continue. I guess you would call him judgemental, huh? He said love those, regardless, not take part and go along with them and their beliefs.

The very fact that you use Christian and "hate" in your responses over and over tells of your true feelings.
You should have stopped at Not Tolerant. Period.
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Yes, we know, not tolerant, perfectly describes
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Anyone bombing anything in the name of Christ
needs to rethink who they say they are "in the name of". I do not believe a true Christian would harm anyone to prove a point or say that it was in the name of Christ. These people have their ideas twisted. We are to hate the SIN of abortion, not the abortionist. God will deal with them in His own time, it is not for us to do.

Remember, God doesn't NEED us to do anything.


The anti-christ??
Please-with all the damage done by Bush, and Obama is the anti-christ to you?? He is a Christian man with a lovely, loving family, strong values, and wants what is best for America. And he hasn't even been sworn in yet? What is with you folks that see it necessary to act like Obama is the devil incarnate! I have prayed for my country, the my prayers have been answered. He takes office in January.
Christ as in Christian
tells us this behavior is "abominable." Dysfunctional and disgusting is in the same category. Saying something is disgusting or bad or wrong is not judging. It's stating a fact. Tell me how to love my fellow man who insists on being labeled as a sinful behavior that I'm required to hate. Hate the sin, love the sinner doesn't fly in the homosexual community. Can we hate murder but love the murderer? Can we hate stealing but love the thief? Tell us all how to do that when it's hard to separate the two, especially if someone wants to be labeled as a particular sin. Impossible, I say.
Christ himself preached against sin sm
but loved the sinner. A PERSON is not labeled as a particular sin, they have committed a particular sin, big difference.

May be hard to separate the two, but it is what Christ commanded. If you take on the name of a Christian you are commanded to be Christ like. We are human and we fail, but if you consistently have this attitude, it makes me wonder if Christ is just in your head or really in your heart.
Those of us who take Jesus Christ as our saviour.
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PLEASE take Jesus Christ as your Savior >>>
Take him the hell out of everyones politics, you narrow-minded ignoramus.
That was lame.............Christ on a cracker!
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Not tolerant of people who exploit God by using religion to lie and distort.

Which is what is being done in this thread by people who claim to know that Phil Donahue is an athiest, which is ridiculous.


But I already said that.


Thank you for providing such a crystal clear example of how you distort the words of others to fit your asinine, completely false, fabricated assumptions about others that you claim to be the *truth*. 


Have a lovely day, sweetie, and SMILE.  Life could be so sweet if you'd just let some truth enter it. 


Not tolerant of people who exploit God by using religion to lie and distort...


...which is what is being done in this thread by people who claim to know that Phil Donahue is an athiest, which is ridiculous.


But I already said that.


Thank you for providing such a crystal clear example of how you distort the words of others to fit your asinine, completely false, fabricated assumptions about others that you claim to be the *truth*. You have completely misjudged and mischaracterized the kind of person I am and adopted it as the truth. 


I'm not angry with you.  In fact, I pity you.  It must be very difficult to be you and to constantly live in such a skewed reality, having such a limited ability to communicate with normal people who don't twist everything into a completely opposite meaning.


Have a lovely day, sweetie, and SMILE. Life could be so sweet if you'd just let some love and TRUTH enter your heart.  I'll pray for you.


wow, ignoramus, moron...REAL tolerant Melissa. Not. nm

great post by 'pen', ..tolerant and openminded, thanks!...nm
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Question....you tout yourself as open-minded and tolerant....
when are you going to start posting as such? Just curious. Not exactly tolerant and open-minded to make blanket statements about "pubs" when you certainly cannot POSSIBLY know or have talked to every single registered Republican in this country. And how do you know what political affiliation someone is? Do you decide based on how they feel about Barry from Chicago? I myself am registered Independent, and to quote from a post I have seen on this board before but which sums it up...because you have to register as something in this country to vote. I was a Republican once, but they have become Democrats lite. Yes, my politics would be considered conservative. I don't believe the Constitution is a "living" document. I believe is fine as the founders wrote it and not as the ACLU would like it to be re-written. I believe in God. I believe in a free country. I believe in capitalism. I believe in more power at the state level than the federal government level. To name a few. I certainly don't believe in socialism, in making people dependent upon the government for their every need. I believe in hard work as a means to bettering your situation, not handouts from the government paid for on the backs of those willing to work hard. To name just a few. What do YOU believe in besides Barry from Chicago?
Why are "Christians" so judgmental when Christ wasn't that way
shame on you gay haters
It is easy to label someone the anti-Christ..

if you have enough time on your hands.  Here is an article asking if President Bush is the anti-Christ.  People will believe what they want to. 


http://markswatson.com/bushac.htm


Christian does mean to follow Christ Jesus. SM

 You know, Jesus, the son of God, God in human flesh?  Jesus, who answered Pilate "you say rightly I am king," Jesus, who answered the high priest when asked if he was the Christ "Yes, it is as you say."  If anyone knew what Father God was thinking, it was Jesus Christ, God in human flesh.


Sheesh, at least try to know what your talking about with your retorts.


I personally dont see O as the "anti-Christ",but
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Two more and I'm done! Q. What's the difference between Jesus Christ and Barack Obama?

A. Jesus could assemble a cabinet.


 


Q: How many Obamunists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None.  It's enough to hope that it gets changed.


 


  I'm waiting to be called a racist.  I'm sure somewhere in that those jokes, some Obamunist will find racism.


Glad to see you are so open-minded and tolerant of diversity, as your party proclaims.
I am not set in my ways, I have embrace some of the liberal notions although not enough to vote that way say far, and welcome INTELLIGENT debate and discussion.  And I'm suppose to be from the party of intolerance and racism.  I think you should reread some of your posts and see who is intolerant.  I don't come here to poke fun at anybody on either side, I come here because I don't get much out of just agreeing with everybody, I like to hear different ideas and to debate the issues.  But, I guess I could find another liberal board where some mature people hang out and I might be welcome to do that, instead of just reading stupid childish jokes and laughing with each other. 
I find it hard to believe that anyone would ever endeavor to speak for Christ. Nuff said. nm
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I came across this scripture today when I was studying. These are the words of Jesus Christ

from the book of Matthew Chapter 10 Verse 28:


Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in he!!.


What was it that Oprah called Obama again?  The One?


 


That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.

Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.