True. Sure hope he does not get lung cancer while in office.nm
Posted By: middle class on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: last I knew there was nothing about the president not being able to smoke... - Amanda
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My dad died of lung ca. from 2nd-hand smoke. I hope
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Hope this guy never wants to run for office..
you know what they do to people who return their medals...those commie pinkos !!!!
A Veteran’s Letter to the President:
“I Return Enclosed the Symbols of My Years of Service”
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by Joseph DuRocher |
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President George W. Bush
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20500
Dear Mr. President:
As a young man I was honored to serve our nation as a commissioned officer and helicopter pilot in the
U. S. Navy. Before me in WWII, my father defended the country spending two years in the Pacific aboard the U.S.S. Hornet (CV-14). We were patriots sworn “to protect and defend”. Today I conclude that you have dishonored our service and the Constitution and principles of our oath. My dad was buried with full military honors so I cannot act for him. But for myself, I return enclosed the symbols of my years of service: the shoulder boards of my rank and my Naval Aviator’s wings.
Until your administration, I believed it was inconceivable that the United States would ever initiate an aggressive and preemptive war against a country that posed no threat to us. Until your administration, I thought it was impossible for our nation to take hundreds of persons into custody without provable charges of any kind, and to “disappear” them into holes like Gitmo, Abu Ghraib and Bagram. Until your administration, in my wildest legal fantasy I could not imagine a U.S. Attorney General seeking to justify torture or a President first stating his intent to veto an anti-torture law, and then adding a “signing statement” that he intends to ignore such law as he sees fit. I do not want these things done in my name.
As a citizen, a patriot, a parent and grandparent, a lawyer and law teacher I am left with such a feeling of loss and helplessness. I think of myself as a good American and I ask myself what can I do when I see the face of evil? Illegal and immoral war, torture and confinement for life without trial have never been part of our Constitutional tradition. But my vote has become meaningless because I live in a safe district drawn by your political party. My congressman is unresponsive to my concerns because his time is filled with lobbyists’ largess. Protests are limited to your “free speech zones”, out of sight of the parade. Even speaking openly is to risk being labeled un-American, pro-terrorist or anti-troops. And I am a disciplined pacifist, so any violent act is out of the question.
Nevertheless, to remain silent is to let you think I approve or support your actions. I do not. So, I am saddened to give up my wings and bars. They were hard won and my parents and wife were as proud as I was when I earned them over forty years ago. But I hate the torture and death you have caused more than I value their symbolism. Giving them up makes me cry for my beloved country.
Joseph W. DuRocher
Joseph DuRocher was for 20 years the elected Public Defender of Florida’s Ninth Judicial Circuit, covering Orange and Osceola counties. Since retirement, he’s been writing and teaching law at the University of Central Florida and the Barry University School of Law. He was a commissioned officer in the U.S. Navy in the 1960s, serving as a Naval Aviator in the Atlantic, the Caribbean and the Mediterranean. On Monday, Mr. DuRocher returned his Lieutenant’s shoulder bars and Navy wings to President Bush, and enclosed the following letter. Mr. DuRocher can be reached at: PDJWD@aol.com.
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I hope it isn't true and it if is just ... sm
a fabrication made up by people who have nothing better to do with their time, then this 16-year-old has nothing to worry about. She has no shame either way. She would be the one vindicated and can say what idiots people are. Like I said, either way she has nothing to feel bad about.
I certainly hope that is true, but I have my doubts. nm
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The sick thing about you is that you HOPE it is true. Don't even tell me
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You could find out you have cancer and need
you might have to wait 6-12 months and could die by then.
72 yrs old and 2-time cancer survivor.
Before you go off, this is NOT wishful thinking, just simple fact. The only thing scarier than a McCain presidency would be a Palin presidency.
He has skin cancer, she has a tanning bed . . . nm
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cancer and national health
It's these sort of false concerns -- LOOK OUT, SIX TO TWELVE MONTH WAITS AND BY THEN YOU'RE DEAD! DEAD!!!! -- that impede progress toward a fair healthcare system. They're repetition of talking points, nothing more. A ten-second internet search would tell you, for instance, that in the UK:
-Over 99% of people with suspected cancer are now seen by a specialist within two
weeks of being urgently referred by their GP.
-Over 99% of patients with cancer are receiving their first treatment within one
month of diagnosis.
-Over 96% of patients with cancer are receiving their first treatment within two
months of being urgently referred by their GP.
Now I'll leave it to you and Google to find the comparable numbers for the US.
The larger point is, though, that if you decide this nation doesn't need universal healthcare, then you need to say exactly who it is you don't want care provided to. Because that's all this ever comes down to: Who do you include, and who do you leave out?
Bravo to them. Lots of cancer in my family.
Great article. Thanks for posting it! I applaud them. Obviously early detection is key, and it makes sense that many people without insurance are not getting regular screenings done.
American Cancer Society focuses its ads on the uninsured
Has anyone seen the ads yet?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/31/us/31cancer.html
Good Article. The American Cancer Society sm
is also advocating national health care as are a lot of medical organizations. They see the problems with the current system every day and know things cannot continue as they are.
And neither does John McCain. He is cancer free - see link.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/113705
And at least he isn't at risk for lung cancer like Mr. Obama who smokes like a chimney. That is more worrisome to me.
Yes, McCain has made mistakes in what he has said. So has Obama. But at least McCain doesn't associate with radicals and hasn't had communist mentors, and on and on and on.
I'm glad we don't have to worry then because he is cancer free and has been for several years
I thought I posted the link but I guess I must have forgotten to.
I'm more worried about Obama's chain smoking and the potential for lung cancer. My mom had lung cancer and it was horrible. It eventually went to her brain. Horrible horrible way to die.
Anyway...sorry I forgot to post the link before. Here it is.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/113705
It's called a skin graft, if that, indeed, was where there was cancer removed....sm
My aunt had a cancer (don't remember the kind), the size of a grapefruit removed from her cheek, and the skin graft always stuck out after that.
Or how about leaving your wife who is sick and dying of cancer to run for President
There! Don't sling mud unless your prepared to get it back in the face.
Palin has a loving and caring family that is backing her and taking care of things - and I doubt very much she is "leaving" her baby. Sheesh! Your trying to make it sound like she's dropping her child off on a cold street corner with nobody to take care of them. If your going to go there then you might as well say and what father would leave his 2 young children to run for President.
Ovarian cancer. McCain's father died of a heart attach...sm
around 70 I think. FYI, Obama quit.
Good for Joe! I hope so. And I hope he sues...
the governor of the state of Ohio from now to next week. He should. They BIG time violated his civil rights. If this situation was reversed and he was a Dem who had asked McCain a question and a state had had him investigated, the ACLU would be all over this like ugly on an ape. Liberals only care about other liberals...they could care LESS what happens to conservatives. But yeah, they are all about civil liberties. Geez. Pull the other leg awhile.
That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.
Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
Has anyone here ever run for office?
Local,state, whatever. There seems to be a lot of complaining about how terrible the politicians are, but curious to know if anyone has ever run for office or actually held an elected position.
I certainly haven't.
GP, I think you should run for office
then when you get to Washington, you can clean up their act. 
TL office
The office I worked in was in Houston. TL was actually started by an MT. I forget the name.
lying in office
It was a personal matter between he and his wife and Monica. He only lied when the govt tried to pry into his private life. It had nothing to do with national security, and since he was impeached for lying, Im just waiting for Bush to get impeached or Rove to be fired for lying about giving out the name of Valerie Plame to reporters to out her. If there is gonna be a standard about lying while in office, it should work for this administration too. One saving grace on that, the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, seems like a tough guy who does not take sides but finds out the truth.
Every second he was in office he was investigated. sm
I do not know how the man stood it. Arizona even introduced a bill to succeed because of constitutional complaints concerning Clinton, HRC 2034. Where is that bill now? No president has trashed the constitution like Bush.
I know MTs that have become office managers
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If the 'pubs end up in office again, all I can say is
Maybe he should run for some other government office.
They are in office for the last 8 years right?
and all yall voted for Bush right?
What about her office redecoration...sm
with city funds????
From the Huffington Post 9/17:
"Sarah Palin has been touting herself as fiscal watchdog throughout her political career. But Palin's tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, was characterized by waste, cronyism and incompetence, according to government officials in the Matanuska Valley, where she began her fairy-tale political rise.
"Executive abilities? She doesn't have any," said former Wasilla City Council member Nick Carney, who selected and groomed Palin for her first political race in 1992 and served with her after her election to the City Council.
Four years later, the ambitious Palin won the Wasilla mayor's office -- after scorching the "tax and spend mentality" of her incumbent opponent. But Carney, Palin's estranged former mentor, and others in city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish expenditure of Palin's own after her 1996 election. According to Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds to redecorate her office, without the council's authorization."
and from David Talbot at salon.com:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/
If McCain is in office, we most definitely WILL
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Yes. He will be voted into office and be
He is a fine AMERICAN citizen who has dedicated his life to public service, has run a brilliant campaign, won over a "commanding" lead in the polls and will be making history in just 48 short hours or so.
8 years in office? sm
Pretty sure of yourself, aren't you, GP?
My husband just came into my office...sm
He was just watching Bill O'Reilly, and my husband said the most interesting things.
Ann Coulter is a humorist, not a politician. She says outrageous things, and sometimes they're funny (sometimes not, I guess). It's how she sells her books.
And I guess Bill and Ann don't like each other much.
The things she says offends those that are center right, and she really offended Bill O'Reilly. Bill thinks she gives conservatives a bad name, and part of that seems to be true.
But I have to agree with him. She can be very offensive in the way she talks and writes. Even though a lot of what she writes about may be true, she's not very nice about it.
No wonder she offends people.
Only 2 weeks in office and already
By what criteria? What he may or may not do? The stimulus package is only in the debate stage at this point, so no one can say what it will end up looking like. Before passing judgement and handing out indictments, suppose you at least wait until the verbs move from the subjunctive into the indicative moods and while you are at it, don't forget to factor in by way of comparison 8 years of lies, corruption, enrichment of corporate America and the wealthy on the backs of the middle class, scorched earth foreign policy, circumvention of the Constitution at every turn and that teeny-tiny thing we call torture
You mean the one they voted in BEFORE O took office?
a couple of weeks back, the first words out of Obama's mouth when he addressed his White House Staff were announcing a salary freeze on highly paid WH aides. Remember?
Wehether or not the Congress is able to vote in yet another salary increase in the future remains to be seen, doesn't it now? My question to you is why you are dodging the subject at hand? Please explain to me why the govt should not cap TARP CEO salaries?
I work in an office. EVERYONE there is against this
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My doc's office must be slipping...(sm)
They haven't asked me for my voter registration card yet, and I didn't see any signs when I went in denoting them as a dem or pub establishment. 
Consider the mentality of those who put him in office
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His office *knew* (tired) ...nm
so was it sexist of Hillary to run for office?
that's one of the most pitiful remarks and reminds me that the Dems are SCARED! or it would have taken longer than 5 SECONDS to bash her!
He was sitting in the office with them and they were briefing him...
but of course you have to have an open mind and yours is obviously snapped shut. If it doesn't come down from the DNC it doesn't exist. Got it.
Right! With Obama in office, where will the incentive
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but when his card gets to the polling office...
it will be knocked out and not counted. ACORN has to turn it in, it's up to the registrars in each town to verify it and count it.
Just wait and watch...Should the O get into office...sm
I would be willing to bet that taxes rise for everyone on everything, eventually. Goods, services, everything. I'm willing to bet people will lose jobs, because businesses will either scale down, or go elsewhere, or completely go out of business, because they can't or won't afford those taxes increases on businesses over 250,000.
Whatever....we will soon find out, won't we?
Gosh darn it, I sure don't want to pay 10 bucks for a loaf of bread, or 20 bucks for a gallon of milk!!!!
Big whoop.....like no political office ever does this
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Office of the President Elect...
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_president_elect_/2008/11/10/149643.html
Obama Invents 'Office of the President-Elect' |
Monday, November 10, 2008 12:54 PM
By: Jim Meyers |
Article Font Size ![](http://www.newsmax.com/images/layout/minus.jpg") ![](http://www.newsmax.com/images/layout/plus.jpg") |
Barack Obama has created a stir by proclaiming that he heads “The Office of President-Elect” — an office that does not officially exist.
At his first news conference on Nov. 7, Obama stood at a podium bearing a sign that read: “Office of the President-Elect. Also, his Web site, Change.gov, bears the words “Office of the President-Elect” at the top of its home page.
Writer Larry Anderson referred to the “made-up little title” on the American Thinker Web site, and declared: “I nearly busted a gut ...
“Once again, [Obama] can’t wait to invest himself with the trappings of office.”
Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin wondered: “What other make-believe offices are they going to invent between now and Inauguration Day? I can’t ever recall in my lifetime any mention of such an office.”
Technically speaking, Obama may not even be the President-elect, according to the American Sentinel Web site.
“Megalomaniac Obama’s ego grows even more insufferable,” a weekend posting reads.
“Yes, he will be [president-elect]. But he’s not officially yet, until the Electoral College votes.
“The Constitution provides that on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December, electors convene in their respective state capitals. It’s then that they formally elect the President of the United States, based on the general election results.”
The Nov. 7 news conference did not mark the first time Obama has created controversy with a podium.
Back in June, he spoke at a podium bearing a new seal that altered the official presidential seal.
The seal did include the American bald eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch, but the Latin phrase “E Pluribus Unum” was changed to “Vero Possumus,” a rough translation of the Obama campaign slogan, “Yes we can.”
Obama’s seal also removed the shield over the eagle’s breast, representing the president’s oath to defend the Constitution, and replaced it with the letter “O,” presumably for Obama, and the image of the rising sun.
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Chris isn't running for office...LOL
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He wasn't voted out of office
He was in an appointed position that ended when Taft's administration ended. He didn't win the election because he had been a member of Taft's administration, even though he had been a voice against it (much like McCain). And as far as him trying to make certain registrations invalid, there was a LOT of voter fraud going on in Ohio, just like in this past election, that he was trying to do something about, unlike the dem that's currently in that position. Dems are in control, that's true - as far as how much they will defend my right to my own opinion is yet to be seen - Fairness Doctrine on it's way to becoming law again? We'll just see.
Yes, he has...been very disrespectful to the office of the current
on a daily basis.
In his first day in office, President Obama
-- hit the ground running. Just got done watching TV to see what his first day was like. Just for fun, I looked up Bush's first day in 2001. Here's what I found:
"On his first day in office, Bush moved to block federal aid to foreign groups that offered counseling or any other assistance to women in obtaining abortions. Days later, he announced his commitment to channeling more federal aid to faith-based service organizations. At the time, critics feared this would dissolve the traditional separation of church and state. Bush created the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives to assist faith-based service organizations. In a televised address on Aug. 9, 2001, Bush would announce a national policy on stem cell research that authorized funding and research work, with federal restrictions over the use of human embryos."
Yeah, that whack-job started whacking way at women's control over their own bodies, tried to integrate government and the church (HUGE mistake!), and to outlaw one of the most promising medical breakthroughs. I'm surprised witch-trials and book-burning didn't come back into fashion again under his "leadership".
I think where he belongs is in some isolated, authoritarian religious cult out in the middle of nowhere.
You guyz say that every time a dem is in office. -sm
when a repub gets in and screws up (ie, the last 8, for example), then you blame it on the dems that came before them. As I recall, we were told in no uncertain terms that things would get a lot worse before they started to get better. They have, and they'll probably continue to do so, just as they would've if mcain were prez. I know taxes are part of life, that's how things get done. Roads, schools, bridges, etc. What most middle-class Americans are sick of goes deeper than paying taxes, it's seeing the money go to bail out the rich, the crooks, and big business that has become so profit-driven that any sense of fairness or morality went out the window decades ago. Regardless of what the banks, or the stock market, or the real estate market do, things wont get any better for us - the regular run-of-the-mill workers - until the huge loopholes the rich, and the companies who stomp on the American worker by offshoring their jobs, are jumping through in order to avoid paying their fair share. That's a sore spot in america that's grown to a huge bleeding ulcer. If it isn't treated soon, I think there will be problems in the US that will make higher taxes or corporate woes seem like less than nothing, and the 'little people' who are tired of being stepped on by corporate america will be the ones that start shutting down American big business (auto, wall street, banks, etc.) by no longer patronizing them. Not only won't we be able to afford to, but we won't want to, either.
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