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What amazes me is you are proud of this behavior.

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-03
In Reply to: Your glee is our glee. - Another media train comin round the bend. nm

Which is another huge reason not to put one of you in the white house.


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Criminal behavior..

Down below somebody cites lack of opportunity as a reason for blacks in American having a high incarceration rate...  Well, yes, that's one piece of the pie.  I say that ALL of the reason can be traced to the rampant fatherlessness in the black community, where 69% of all black children in this country are born to a single mother.  Everything else from A to Z can be derived from the broken family syndrome.  But of course this has nothing to do with race other than than the statistic above.  Whites and Hispanice from the same social situation suffer the same fate described below.


WHAT HAPPENS TO CHILDREN DEPRIVED OF THEIR NATURAL FATHERS

Compared to children in male-headed traditional families where their
natural parents are married to each other, children living in
female-headed single-parent, lesbian or other environments where they are
deprived of their natural fathers are:


    1. Eight times more likely to go to prison.
    2. Five times more likely to commit suicide.
    3. Twenty times more likely to have behavioral problems.
    4. Twenty times more likely to become rapists.
    5. 32 times more likely to run away.
    6. Ten times more likely to abuse chemical substances.
    7. Nine times more likely to drop out of high school.
    8. 33 times more likely to be seriously abused.
    9. 73 times more likely to be fatally abused.
    10. One-tenth as likely to get A's in school.
    11. On average have a 44% higher mortality rate.
    12. On average have a 72% lower standard of living.

Source: The Garbage Generation by Daniel Amneus Ph.D. It is posted in
HTML format at http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/damneus/garbgen.htm

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Fathers' Absence


  • 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.


  • 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.


  • 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.


  • 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes.


  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes.


  • 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes.


  • 70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes.


  • 85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home.


  • California has the nation's highest juvenile incarceration rate and the nation's highest juvenile unemployment rate.


  • Juveniles have become the driving force behind the national increase in violent crime; the epidemic of youth violence and gangs is related to the breakdown of the two-parent family.


  • 71% of teenage pregnancies are to children of single parents. Daughters of single parents are 2.1 times more likely to have children during their teenage years than are daughters from intact families. Daughters of single parents are 53% more likely to marry as teenagers, 164% more likely to have a premarital birth, and 92% more likely to dissolve their own marriages. All these intergenerational consequences of single motherhood increase the likelihood of chronic welfare dependency.


  • In 1983, a study found that 60% of perpetrators of child abuse were women with sole custody. Shared parenting can significantly reduce the stress associated with sole custody, and reduce the isolation of children in abusive situations by allowing both parents' to monitor the children's health and welfare and to protect them.


  • 18 million children live in single-parent homes. Nearly 75% of American children living in single-parent families will experience poverty before they turn 11. Only 20% in two-parent families will experience poverty.


  • The feminization of poverty is linked to the feminization of custody, as well as linked to lower earnings for women. Greater opportunity for education and jobs through shared parenting can help break the cycle.


  • Kidnapping: family abductions were 163,200 compared to non-family abductions of 200 to 300, attributed to the parents' disenchantment with the legal system.
Reestablishing fatherhood is not just a minor issue to the Signatories to the Fathers' Manifesto. It is the only way to rid this world of its current social pathology, and they know it. Any and every plan for doing this must be presented and carefully scrutinized, regardless of its political correctness. There is too much at stake to ignore any possible solution.

The Constitutional right to freedom of religion clearly requires the preservation of families -- and this requires strong fatherhood.

Sources:

The False Child Abuse Industry by John Knight
Fathering Magazine


You need to examine your behavior.

From the Conservative board.


The toxicity has become so potent that some of the cooler heads on the Left are starting to notice. Richard Cohen, writing in his Washington Post column  today, describes his email, traffic after a mildly critical reference to Stephen Colbert’s unfunny performance at the White House Correspondents Dinner:



 




It seemed that most of my correspondents had been egged on to write me by various blogs. In response, they smartly assembled into a digital lynch mob and went roaring after me. If I did not like Colbert, I must like Bush. If I write for The Post, I must be a mainstream media warmonger. If I was over a certain age—which I am—I am simply out of it, wherever “it” may be. All in all, I was—I am, and I guess I remain—the worthy object of ignorant, false and downright idiotic vituperation. [….]



But the message in this case truly is the medium. The e-mails pulse in my queue, emanating raw hatred. This spells trouble—not for Bush or, in 2008, the next GOP presidential candidate, but for Democrats. The anger festering on the Democratic left will be taken out on the Democratic middle. (Watch out, Hillary!) I have seen this anger before—back in the Vietnam War era. That’s when the antiwar wing of the Democratic Party helped elect Richard Nixon. In this way, they managed to prolong the very war they so hated.



The hatred is back. I know it’s only words now appearing on my computer screen, but the words are so angry, so roiled with rage, that they are the functional equivalent of rocks once so furiously hurled during antiwar demonstrations.



 


Just what was his nasty behavior?
I'm curious...........
Does the behavior on this board not kinda...
support that?
It amazes me that many of you
scoffed at Palin's 80% approval rating in Alaska and yet you throw up Obama's 67% approval rating when he hasn't even done anything yet.  All I've seen from Obama is the same old crap that we've been seeing.  I see no change.
What amazes me is that
this country can fund that much money for campaigns but they don't hold fundraisers and make millions of dollars and just put it towards the deficit.  No....they spend all this money in their campaign telling us what they will do in office and then they do nothing but make a butt load more money and spend it.  Add Obama and McCains campaign money and just put it towards our deficit.  Granted, it won't take care of the whole thing but that would be a nice little chunk.  Too bad politicians are only out to line their pockets with money, getting elected, and sticking it to the rest of us.
Know what amazes me?

is all the time saying I will do this and I promise you this and I blah blah blah and the other candidate says he will propose or work towards, etc....


Tends to make me think one is a liar; wonder who it could be????


One says he "will look to bring greater competition to our drug markets through safe re-importation of drugs and faster introduction of generic drugs."


The other says he "will pay for his $50 - $65 billion health care reform effort by rolling back the Bush tax cuts for Americans earning more than $250,000 per year and retaining the estate tax at its 2009 level." 



 


 


It amazes me that you...(sm)
would judge people simply because of where they were born.  I'm assuming that was your point by saying she was born in IRAN (all caps).  I think that's called racisim.  The US is a melting pot.  That means we have citizens from all over the world.  That's called diversity.  Oh, and by the way, where were your great-grandparents from?  Scotland? Ireland? Great Britian? Africa? The middle east?  I don't think anyone in this country has the right to be judgemental of ANYONE based on origin or race.  Get over it!
This amazes me.
Bristol is an adult who had sex and got pregnant.  She made the decision to have sex.  She was old enough to obtain birth control pills and Sarah Palin is not against the use of the pill.  Not everyone who gets pregnant as a teen instantly wants to get rid of their baby by abortion.  Sounds to me like Bristol made a mistake in not protecting herself enough for sexual activity, but she took the challenge of keeping her baby.  She has the family support that young unwed mothers need.  This isn't the ideal situation, but it happens.  My best friend in high school got pregnant at 17.  She used condoms but obviously one did not work.  When her parents found out they wanted her to abort the baby.  My friend refused.  She said she could not do that and she had her son while we were in high school.  Once her baby arrived, her parents....live most grandparents.....fell in love with their grandson and through their support.....my friend was able to finish high school, attend college and graduate from college, and now has a job as a nurse.  She is now married with a total of 4 sons.
It just amazes me that you really

think that these countries that don't like us will think highly of us after we release those photos.  Even if we go after the people involved in the "torturing," that won't change the way other countries look at us.  All it will do is give more fuel for extremist groups to recruit more people to fight against us and it will put our troops in danger.  It seems to me like some of you are so into going after the past administration that you are willing to put our troops....who are currently fighting for your freedom.....in more danger.  Nice way to repay them, huh?


When we win the war (which is another way of saying that we were successful), then we can go back and see whether or not it is worth going through this stuff and handing out punishment.  Right now...it seems to me that this is just liberals wanting Bush and Cheney put before a firing squad and the dems who knew about what was going on are lying through their teeth and saying they knew nothing which is complete and utter BS. 


This is unnecessary drama and turmoil during this already stressful time period in our country.  We are calling the CIA liars and are ruining our intelligence that helps defend ourselves against terrorists.  We are virtually making it impossible for people in authority to take any action for fear of being charged of something later. 


Not only will this help terrorists recruit more people but it will also show them that they can literally blow us up and if they are caught....no big deal......they will be treated quite nicely and they don't have to fear anything so no need to spill information to us because we will eventually let them go free and clear.  Now...if we are captured by them.....they will behead you and not even bat an eyelash about it.


Right now I'm more concerned about the safety of our country and that of our troops who are fighting for us while we stay home and b!tch about whether or not they should be there in the first place and whether or not pictures should be released that will put them in danger.  As far as I'm concerned.....nothing is worth putting our troops in greater danger.


For once I actually have to give Obama credit for standing up and saying no to the release of those photos.  I just hope he doesn't flip flop again like he has on so many other issues.


That still amazes me really.

OJ was so guilty it wasn't funny.  Too bad there was too much tampering of evidence that they couldn't use it in court.  Pathetic. 


It still amazes me that

people continue to give him free passes for the obvious lies that he tells.  He doesn't even try to hide the lies.  They are blatant and out for all to see and yet so many still refuse to see anything but how wonderful he is.  The man is bankrupting us and all he wants to do is continue to spend spend spend.  Bush may have started it but Obama is definitely finishing it!!!  Wake up people!


Infantile? High school behavior?

So it's only okay when you do it?


Sadly, common sense and good behavior...........sm
are seldom rewarded but highly expected and those who practice sound financial habits are often not given the breaks that those who do not are given. It just seems harsh to say "screw them" when one may not know the circumstances and when there may be children involved who would be homeless through no fault of their own. Guess I'm just a little tender-hearted about that.
She didn't know about Rock Hudson's nasty behavior.
None of us did until he died from AIDS. And calling people names, even though wrong, is a far cry from being beat up. We have to teach our kids to be kind but not to accept certain behavior as good and that's not what you want. Am I right?
And most of Fox is based on this type of behavior....Fox a News Station? What a circus!.....nm
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Oh brother - it amazes me how many are caught up in a fantasy
.
I can't beat comparison but I like the fact she knows, it amazes me you call some of these people
NM
I'm not proud of it
just trying to use your formulas for determining aid to people which translates into dollar signs.  You really can't have a beef with Bush, because he's throwing as much or more.  I don't think throwing more and more money is going to solve the poverty woes of this country which are mostly rooted in moral deprivation.  Money will never be able to fix moral deprivation.
I never said I was proud.

Bush has made mistakes.  I will not disagree with that at all.  However, you cannot solely blame him for this economic crisis when there are so many things that factor into this and it includes many other people besides G.W. Bush and I'm frankly more concerned about the solution to these problems and not who to point to for blame because I don't have that many fingers to point blame to all who were involved in this.


Very proud indeed!
Yes, I'm proud to have roots in Israel.

Whoopdie-doo if your heart bleeds for Palestinians. They brought it all on themselves, and they're still bringing it on.

You have a very short-sighted view of history. My history goes back thousands and thousands of years.

Your seems to begin whenever it suits your purpose.

Palestinians are SQUATTERS! Just because you only recognize history after the Muslim INVASION does not give your Palestian pals claim to the land. This isn't a matter of 'finders keepers.'

And, who blasted the first rockets after the cease fire, braniac? They came from Hamas! From Palestians! So if you want that river to stop running red, maybe you should work on knocking some sense into the Hamas terrorist leaders.
You have every right to be proud of your son.......sm
It is very apparent he is proud of his country.
All I can say is Hollywood would be proud...
Quite an acting job. I call it *cheerleading.* Trying to push people into an emotional frenzy. There are many that think pushing someone into an emotional frenzy will get them to make a decision for the Lord. Trouble is, that just confuses people and when the emotion wears off the *cheerleaders* are gone, the person who has made the *decision* is confused, does not know why all the emotion left and begin to question, and have no place to turn. I personally believe the choice for God is not made in the heat of an emotional moment but in a moment of quiet, clear clarity built on a solid base of faith. I do not mean to cast aspersions on anyone's choice of faith. It is just easier to get through the every day if you have that quiet, strong knowledge of faith and not expect to slide through life on an emotional freight train. That does not mean I do not have my emotional moments, because I do; usually associated with music because that is one of the ways God speaks to my heart. However, those who make an emotional decision not based on faith and knowledge of God's word get disenchanted when the *cheerleaders* are gone. That is why counselors are present at the Grahams' gatherings, so that people can talk quietly with someone and understand their decision before it is made. That way they have something concrete to hold onto when the emotion goes away. Just my two cents worth.

God bless!
Proud to be an American

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BJjKCBbI2s  Cat


Nasty and proud of it.....obviously. And...
definitely not someone who should be calling someone else ignorant. But, since your opinion means les than nothing to me...knock yourself out.
You seemed pretty proud yourself
Like the other poster said, own up or take cover. Defend your candidate's views and positions or bash, slam ad slur to an audience of 1.
I bet you have. Your mother must be so proud. nm
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Great. Be proud. I'm not saying...sm
Not to be, and I'm not saying she hasn't accomplished anything. But that doesn't make her qualified to be the VP. Her resume is tissue-paper thin, and the McCain camp trying to inflate it is starting to backfire. The whole thing is just ill-advised. Pure pandering on McCain's part.

That's what I meant above when I said some women are taking her nomination too personally, like this is our one and only chance to ever have a woman in the White House, and there will never be another! LOL

It will happen, and when it does, I want a woman who is qualified, not a woman who, IMO, is blinded by ambition and is being *used* as a shill by right wing MEN. This is no great thing to be proud of for woman. Don't fall for it.


Are you proud of Bush's
"accomplishments?" You keep defending him. If he hadn't given those big tax cuts to the wealthy in the first place and hadn't started an unnecessary war in Iraq, we wouldn't be in this big financial mess. You don't cut taxes in a time of war...oh...unless you're a pub. They always seem to have it backwards. Everything they do is the opposite of what should be done. I'm sick of it and can't wait for a fresh start. It'll take time, but after Obama gets elected, he'll turn this country around.
Did she not say she was not proud to be American...
until now with her husband running for president. I think that says a lot. And since you don't know one thing about me either, do not go making assumptions my race, nationality, religion, my political affiliation, my attitudes, intelligence or anything else
I'm proud of Arkansas s/m

Arkansans, typically Republicans, kicked Mike Huckabee to the curb and elected a Democrat, Mike Beebe.  He's straightened out the mess. 


http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=109551.54928.121696


I am proud that RW is being allowed to
been convicted and knows in HIS heart to be right without fear. I hope there has been no compromise or deal in the background made and I do not believe RW is of this character. I am afraid that you are right, the people who elected Obama will not be listening to what RW will have to say because they do not know who he will be talking to. I know this is just something for you and a lot of others to just laugh off, but one of the saddest days of this election was the day the Billy Graham Ministry resigned as as pastor/counselor to the the president since serving in that capacity since Eisenhower. They resigned just a few days after Nov 4.
So right, I am not proud of our country either but
nothing to do with O.
Proud to be an American again
Hooray for Obama. He has given America back its hopes and dreams...
why in the WORLD are you proud of this???
you are PROUD of this spending bill? you are PROUD that your children, grandchildren, great grandchildren are going to bear the burden of this disgusting act of social programs that are thrown in to further the dems agenda? i dont know how they have a conscience passing such a thing. During the election campaign didn't Obama speak in disgust about Bush's spending?? and he turns around and whips out the BIGGEST SPENDING BILL EVER!!!

i feel sorry for you for backing your party just because you belong to it.

If this was truly to help the economy this much money wouldn't be needed.

our country is in BIG trouble but wants a quick fix. something needs to be done, but THIS?
this is too much
and it is very scary

wake up!!!
You must be so proud of your research
I'll stick by my kool-aid comment, however, that was not in this post and I'm sick of people calling me ignorant because I believed both countries were in the middle east. These wars have been going on for so long I'm sick of it all.

As for reality I have a pretty good grip on it. You know for a fact there are people who voted for Obama just because he's black! That's reality sista. I know because my brother and his friends boasted on how they didn't know his policies and they didn't care. He's black, we're black so therefore we have to vote for him because he's black. Sorry you don't like to face reality. How about the people interviewed that said that if Obama was president they wouldn't mind Sarah Palin as VP. Oh yeah, those people really understand Obama's policies. How about the people who were told McCains plan and they said yeah, that's why I'm voting for Obama, those plans there you just said. How about the thousands and thousands of people who kept boasting about if Obama gets in office that our troops will be coming home from the middle east.

I'm in touch with reality here, you are not!

And for your information. I did not attack anyone who replied to my post here but plenty attacked me for my beliefs and questions.

WEll then, be proud of your friend's son! nm

When you say Wounded Knee is nothing to be proud of....
You primarily mean the original Wounded Knee, right?
Ignorant and proud of it. Loser.
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I agree completely. He should be proud of his...
accomplishments. However, that being said...I most assuredly do NOT think he is the right man for the Presidency.
Becuase he's proud to be black
He always talks about being biracial. Loves his grandparents and mother (white) and is proud of his heritage even though he never talks about the black side of his family. I wonder why that is?
another gracious winner....you should be so proud....
start clawing upward right now and you should reach the bottom of the barrel in a light year or two.
You almost sound proud of your ignorance.
You have not got the slightest idea what you are talking about. Not surprising, given the pervasive lies and distortion in US mainstream media. This is not a right of a left affliction, it's across the board. All you have to do is read coverage of the situation from outside the US to find out just how much propaganda has been shoved down your throat all you life on this issue.

Do you know anything at all about how the state Israel came into being? It's a new kid on the block, having been there a mere 60 years. Look at this map.
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/ww2timeline/palestine2.html
Do you see anything on it that says Israel anywhere? Do you know how long the Palestinians lived there before the creation of Israel? Have any idea what the British Mandate did? How about the UN Partition Plan? Ever hear of it? Know anything about occupation? Historical interference from Western powers?

Palestine (Gaza, West Bank, Golan) is an occupied territory. They are not allowed to control their own destiny. People who have been living in these kinds of conditions tend to rebel and reject their oppressors. That would be Israel, bankrolled by the US.

It would be a waste of time to try to discuss this issue with someone who has clearly stated they have no capacity to conceive of the human suffering which has been imposed by our support of Israel and could care less about wholesale murder.

I would, however, like to pass a few links along regarding your question about the tax dollars (truly laughable you seem to be unaware of this).

http://www.rense.com/general41/trill.htm
Study in 2003 estimates cost to US since 1949 of $3 trillion.

http://www.wrmea.com/archives/November_2008/0811010.html
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Nifty little table of accountable direct aid. Please notice language under the table indicating the additional costs not included in the table.

That should keep you pretty busy. After all, I wouldn't want to overwhelm you with too much reality all at once.

Wait. Here's one more.
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1222181
Seems that some folks in the US DO care about the humanitarian crisis. December 30, US pledges $85 million in aid to Palestinian refugees in Gaza, West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria...a drop in the bucket.

You almost sound proud of your ignorance.
You have not got the slightest idea what you are talking about. Not surprising, given the pervasive lies and distortion in US mainstream media. This is not a right of a left affliction, it's across the board. All you have to do is read coverage of the situation from outside the US to find out just how much propaganda has been shoved down your throat all you life on this issue.

Do you know anything at all about how the state Israel came into being? It's a new kid on the block, having been there a mere 60 years. Look at this map.
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/ww2timeline/palestine2.html
Do you see anything on it that says Israel anywhere? Do you know how long the Palestinians lived there before the creation of Israel? Have any idea what the British Mandate did? How about the UN Partition Plan? Ever hear of it? Know anything about occupation? Historical interference from Western powers?

Palestine (Gaza, West Bank, Golan) is an occupied territory. They are not allowed to control their own destiny. People who have been living in these kinds of conditions tend to rebel and reject their oppressors. That would be Israel, bankrolled by the US.

It would be a waste of time to try to discuss this issue with someone who has clearly stated they have no capacity to conceive of the human suffering which has been imposed by our support of Israel and could care less about wholesale murder.

I would, however, like to pass a few links along regarding your question about the tax dollars (truly laughable you seem to be unaware of this).

http://www.rense.com/general41/trill.htm
Study in 2003 estimates cost to US since 1949 of $3 trillion.

http://www.wrmea.com/archives/November_2008/0811010.html
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Nifty little table of accountable direct aid. Please notice language under the table indicating the additional costs not included in the table.

That should keep you pretty busy. After all, I wouldn't want to overwhelm you with too much reality all at once.

Wait. Here's one more.
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1222181
Seems that some folks in the US DO care about the humanitarian crisis. December 30, US pledges $85 million in aid to Palestinian refugees in Gaza, West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria...a drop in the bucket.

So NOT proud of the country. O's "change" just
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I was never so proud to be an American as I was today when I saw that on TV.
And then I came here. 
That was eloquent and I am also PROUD !!! Gobama!
everyone else is sour grapes!

I would not be so proud of the other side. Obama
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WOW! Proud of Intel and hope other
Just watched Lou Dobbs. Intel CEO is closing down manufacturing jobs overseas and bringing all the manufacturing jobs back to the United States and CEO is "pressuring" other companies to do the same. This was just announced today.


http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE51942N20090210

Intel to invest $7 billion in U.S. plants
Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:39am EST


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Intel Corp (INTC.O) plans to invest $7 billion over the next two years to build advanced manufacturing facilities in the United States that make faster, smaller chips that consume less energy.

The announcement comes less than a month after the world's largest maker of microprocessors used in personal computers said it would close plants in Southeast Asia and scale back U.S. operations under a restructuring that affects as many as 6,000 employees.

The investment funds deployment of Intel's 32 nanometer manufacturing technology, the company said.

Intel's investment will be made at existing manufacturing sites in Oregon, Arizona and New Mexico and will support some 7,000 jobs at those locations. The company said its total workforce in the U.S. is about 45,000.

In a speech before the Economic Club of Washington, D.C., Otellini also underscored the need for tech companies to invest in the United States. He quoted former Intel CEO Andy Grove who said, "bad companies are destroyed by crisis. Good companies survive them. Great companies are improved by them."

Otellini called the current crisis the worst he has seen since he began at Intel about 35 years ago, adding, "For nations like the U.S., absolutely nothing about the future is inevitable or guaranteed -- not jobs, not leadership, not our standard of living."

Piccioni said the Intel announcement also boosts its public image as a major U.S. corporation, especially at a time of massive job cuts.
Gosh, I've always been quite proud
of my hazel eyes.  Sure, I was born with that color, can't take credit for them, but still I think they're much nicer than, say, blue or brown eyes.  I'm also pretty pumped about my great vision and hearing. 
PASS. I like it where i am...also great....I am so proud of McCain...
this morning. He chose well. Good for him! It is a GOOD day in America!