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Where are you getting these erroneous ideas?

Posted By: sm on 2008-08-16
In Reply to: How sad to hear that.... - sm


Especially about the taxation? Obama's tax plan is going to be of bigger benefit to me and everyone I know than McCain's ever could be.


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sorry, it was ''the erroneous ideas'' post.

The link is in the above post, though.  Look down toward the bottom, where it says LINK/URL.


 


Your post is again erroneous.

50 times?  No, that is incorrect.


And once again, that is not what my post said.  You stretch the truth even further with even more exaggeration.


What is wrong with just stating the truth?  I know we all exaggerate at times but you say things that are laughable they are so untrue.  You'll find that when you do tell the truth no one will believe you.


Yes, it is erroneous . On going through archives it is at least 100 times.

Off with her head.


erroneous time line
Those orphans died between 1892 and 1980
This article is erroneous. Retention levels are very high. sm
And the recruiting levels have not fallen that much. Stats are on the other board.  You don't care about the disaster at all, gt.  You only care about posting articles blaming Bush.  That much is crystal clear. 
best ideas
Hey, i get some of my best ideas when I am "smoked into a frenzy." Sounds like fun.
Your ideas
Any idea for change is better than what we have now.  I think your idea for registration is a good one. Most people have a a birth certificate, driver's license and social security card.  If, as you said, registration was done at a central place and all 3 documents had to be presented it would do away with voter registration fraud. Going back to paper ballots might not be a bad idea too.
No, because they don't have any ideas. Just want to
It is sad that grown, supposedly adults, just want to come here and slam any and all suggestions.

I guess they wish for another 8 years of the downward spiral that Bush led is into.

It is very easy to point out others' faults and issue warning Subject line zingers, but not one person who has done this has come up with a viable alternative.
We'd have to ban you, too. Or are any ideas
Get a grip and go back and learn what this country was founded on. You obviously have ZERO idea.
prehistoric ideas
What, dear neocon, was wrong in my statement?  Not a thing..but, of course, you and your attack dogs have a certain way of disputing reality and truth, you say the same thing over and over and over and over and then attack the poster/author/lecturer, instead of dealing with the facts.  Nothing in my post was wrong, nothing.  I think you need to go back to the prehistoric age, where your ideas and beliefs are still stuck.  Nothing in this country has ever gotten done due to staying the same and being afraid to move on and progress.  Everything has gotten done in the country by progressives, people who realize with life and time, you must move on and change with the times and rethink things and adjust to the reality of the day and time.  Hey..what..hmm..oh, I think your dinosaur is growling for you, better go get him and ride back to prehistoric times..bye..bye.., sweetie..
You were not being attacked, you ideas are
You don't debate, you scream and holler and fling insults and names. 
Decisions vs ideas.
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Even the worst of ideas

and plans that don't and won't work can be presented eloquently and there certainly will be people dumb enough to believe that those ideas and plan will actually work.  This is all a bunch of fluff to get elected.  Obama does give hope....it is called FALSE HOPE! 


NOBAMA!!!!


Good ideas, especially #2.

The "parties" are the problems.  I would also see that spending billions on crappy TV ads by the candidates wasn't done.  Instead of the ridiculous debates, how about FREE TV time where ALL qualified candidates could stand before the PEOPLE and present their agenda for change in words of 1 syllable so the PEOPLE would know where they stood.  No canned and doctored "questions."


I would have a weekly address to the PEOPLE and the Speaker of the House and what's the head of the Senate called, forget right now, would stand beside me and give account TO THE PEOPLE of what they had accomplished during the week.


 


Here's my not so genius ideas...LOL

First of all (even though I do believe in unions) the auto unions needs to work with them on this one.  They can't afford to re-tool and pay high wages at the same time.  At least some people who would be laid off during this time of transition could find jobs in the transition process itself.  They need to simply quit producing and selling SUVs and gas guzzlers to the general public.  They would have to continue to make available some things like trucks for businesses.  Start making electric cars for general consumption as well as fuel efficient cars.  Lower the price of cars as much as possible to undercut imports or, like you said, just stop importing them.  Then we can start on the Pickens plan of using natural gas for larger vehicles. 


I'm sure Obama will be calling soon for my adivse. 


You do have some good ideas
Although reading I'm thinking isn't this a little drastic? :-), but I do see your point and agree with you. This is what I would do...my brainstorming and I think it is reasonable (well maybe just some of it is reasonable)

1. Cut all politicians salaries by 25%.
2. Cut sports players and hollywood people in movies/shows by 25%.
3. All the weathiest people, lets say those who have income of half a million or more tax them at a rate of say 40% (sort of like when Bill Clinton was president but instead of taxing the middle income that outrageous tax he did, we would tax the wealthiest instead).
4. All CEO/execs of companies get a 25% salary cut.
5. Any company that is found spending bail out money on lavish parties, spas, etc, a return of the money immediatly, the company dismantled and the execs thrown in jail.

On a personal level (people like you and me). Every one should have some type of garden to be able to grow food. Our founding fathers were farmers. Why? They had to eat. Take some of the dependence off the stores (only for stuff you really can't grow or make).

Get rid of Apple computer and downsize Microsoft. Do we really need IPods and IPhones. I have a portable CD player (I bought 6 years ago) with earphones and I can hear my music just fine with that. This downloading music or whatever is just a big gimmick. I also have a cell phone I bought at radioshack and I can talk to people just fine on that. What's up with "texting". If I want to text I come home and use the computer.

Get rid of a lot of autos. Half of them are not being bought. Horse and buggy worked very well in the past and could work again too. But if you don't do that, then anyone driving around with their music playing so loud it rattles the dishes inside of the house as it passes - those people should be fined big time!

Better yet instead of cutting politician salaries by 25% do away with them. Have a representive from your own state but get rid of the whole DC congress thing. Politicians should also only be allowed one term. No 2, 3, 4 or 5 year terms. If the politicians don't work for the people they need to be fired. No more career politicians.

Every person in America should know how to feed, cloth, and protect themselves without dependence on others, and any body caught breaking into someones home should be shot on the spot - no trial. They were breaking in with the intent to steal and possibly injure or kill whowever lives there so the criminal can take what is not his/hers. Take them around the back of a building and immediately put down like the animals they are. Think of all the money we'd save not having to feed and clothe them.

Get rid of some of the TV stations. Do we really need over 400 channels of TV programs? And most of the time I still can't find anything decent to watch. I grew up in the 1960s (when TV's had tubes in the back - to this day whenever something happens to our TV I will still say, maybe there is a bad tube :-) ) But I grew up on 12 channels (except we didn't get channel 8 or 11) and I always found something entertaining to watch and when there wasn't something to watch mom taught us quilting, sewing, canning, knitting or we played a good ol fashion board game of monopoly.

I think there is too much stuff in this world people do not need.

As for taxes...we should pay, but there should be a list available of who is getting what taxes, and like when I give to charity I give to what charity I want to give to and therefore I should be able to decide which organization I want my taxes to go to. And taxes should be a flat rate. That way people who make 20,000 pay the same percentage as people who make 120,000. Unlike people like John and Teresa Kerry who paid only 6% in taxes a few years back while I paid 27%.

As for all that's going on in the country. It is very sad and depressing, but in 4 years none of us are going to care if the Mayan calendar is correct.
Discussing ideas is antagonistic?
I, personally, have been very respectful. If discussing ideas and having a dialogue with someone is antagonistic to you then I'm afraid you're in for a very difficult road in life.
His website states his ideas and how he
I was undecided until McCain picked Palin.  C'mon people - she was the mayor of a town with 9,000 people.  God forbid if something should happen to McCain - would you want her to step in.  It's Obama for me - I've always liked Joe Biden - he doesn't think he's above everyone else and even commutes to and from work like us "normal" folk.    
I have some ideas about auto bailout

Let the oil companies bail them out since they directly benefited from some of the bad management decisions.


Don't bail out the companies.  Give the money to the workers for re-education, etc., while the auto companies restructure.


My first suggestion was a little cynical, but I'm not sure why the second hasn't occurred to anyone.  ...


not questioning your ideas or beliefs -
I am just wondering how is that? Are you and your husband both American? I am just being nosy and I guess you don't have to answer me if you don't want to... just curious how that happened or how it works and if it was something you chose.
Please share your ideas for economic
What do you think would be the best course of action?
Here, some party sign ideas

Tea Party Sign Ideas

* We The People ARE FED UP
* Cap and Trade = Broke and Poor
* I would rather live under a bridge than live under socialism
* One Bad Ass Mistake America
* Revolution! Nuff said
* The sleeping giant is now awake
* Is this what you voted for?
* Government is Broken
* FAIR TAX
* RIP America
* I’m sorry I didn’t do more to stop the madness
* Tea is only the beginning
* Do you know what happened after 1773? We Do
* We don’t want pork, We Want Liberty
* Special Interests Get the Pork, We Get the Beans.
* Pay for Your OWN Mortgage
* Free Markets, Not Free Loaders
* No Public Money for Private Failure
* Reward Responsibility, Not Irresponsibility
* Andrew Jackson was Right: No to Bank Nationalization
* Cut Taxes, Not Deals
* Next Time, Read the Bill Before You Sign It
* You Can’t Borrow to Prosperity
* Don’t Mortgage the Future
* Solve Problems, Don’t Sweep Them Under the Table
* 220 Years to Build the Republic, 1 Month to Destroy It
* Obama has a Crisis of Competence
* Why Should I Pay for YOUR Bad Decisions
* Restore the Republic, Revolt Against Socialism
* Sleep? I’ll Sleep When Conservatives Run Congress
* Netizen Warriors, Not Dependent Whiners
* READ THE BILL NEXT TIME
* No Taxation Without Deliberation
* No Taxation Without Deliberative Representation
* No Spending Without Deliberation
* No Spending Without Deliberative Representation
* Join Our Cause: Restore the Republic
* We Don’t Want No Stinkin Socialism !
* The Very Small List: Things Government Does Well
* REPEAL THE PORK
* REPEAL THE BAILOUT CONGRESS
* We the People…are now owned by the Chinese.
* Atlas will shrug
* Stimulate business, not government
* Honk if I’m paying your mortgage
* You can’t borrow prosperity
* Home ownership is not an entitlement
* I’ll pay for my house, you pay for yours
* Party like it’s 1773
* Proud American capitalist
* Repeal the pork or your bacon is cooked
* Your mortgage is not my problem
* No taxation without deliberation
* Give me liberty or give me debt!
* You can’t spend your way out of debt
* Wake up America, stop the insanity!
* R.I.P. Free market economy
* Save trees, stop printing money
* Don’t tread on me (Gadsden flag or First Navy Jack)
* I want your money (recruiting picture of Uncle Sam)
* Wall Street got a bailout and all I got was the bill
* TARP = $750 Billion
o Stimulus = $870 Billion
o 2009 Deficit = $1.75 Trillion
o U.S. Dollar = WORTHLESS!!
* Just Say No (word “Socialism” with circle and slash)
* Liberty is all the stimulus we need

Quotes:

* “Man is not free unless the government is limited.” Ronald Reagan
* “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.” Vladmir Lenin
* “Debt, n. An ingenious substitute for the chain and whip of the slavedriver.” Ambrose Bierce
* “It takes as much imagination to create debt as to create income.” Leonard Orr
* “Debt is the fatal disease of republics, the first thing and the mightiest to undermine governments and corrupt the people.” Wendell Phillips


So, I have trouble understanding abstract ideas AND

I have no sense of humor.  Anybody else? 


Comesin handy when you are fresh out of ideas
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no numbers, ideas, detail or plan......

What do you call?......link: http://www.americablog.com/2009/03/what-do-you-call-budget-with-no-numbers.html


Thursday, March 26, 2009



What do you call a budget with no numbers, no ideas, no detail and no plan? The House Republican budget



DailyKosTV has great video from the big announcement of the GOP budget today. The big news is that there really is no GOP budget. No numbers, no ideas, no details, no plan. They are the party of "NO" -- No future:

Any ideas on how paying down too much debt could be a terrorist threat?nm
 
warped sources = warped ideas
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warped sources = warped ideas
Consider the source!