Please share your ideas for economic
Posted By: recovery. on 2009-02-17
In Reply to: Obama's plan is no joke. It is more like a nightmare - for our grandchildren. Wasteful and sickening.nm
What do you think would be the best course of action?
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Poll: In current economic, social and economic
The IDEA of:
- Full employment.
- Shorter work week.
- Guaranteed minimum wage income for all adults.
- Universal social benefits to include health care, child care, vacation time and lifelong access to education and training.
- Programs to ensure gender equality.
- Democratization of our banking and financial system, including popular election for those in charge of public sterwardship in the banking system.
- Employees control over their own pension assets.
- Alternative financial institutions controlled by local community members (similar to credit unions).
If we can't share the wealth, we can at least share a laugh...nm
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best ideas
Hey, i get some of my best ideas when I am "smoked into a frenzy." Sounds like fun.
Your ideas
Any idea for change is better than what we have now. I think your idea for registration is a good one. Most people have a a birth certificate, driver's license and social security card. If, as you said, registration was done at a central place and all 3 documents had to be presented it would do away with voter registration fraud. Going back to paper ballots might not be a bad idea too.
No, because they don't have any ideas. Just want to
It is sad that grown, supposedly adults, just want to come here and slam any and all suggestions.
I guess they wish for another 8 years of the downward spiral that Bush led is into.
It is very easy to point out others' faults and issue warning Subject line zingers, but not one person who has done this has come up with a viable alternative.
We'd have to ban you, too. Or are any ideas
Get a grip and go back and learn what this country was founded on. You obviously have ZERO idea.
prehistoric ideas
What, dear neocon, was wrong in my statement? Not a thing..but, of course, you and your attack dogs have a certain way of disputing reality and truth, you say the same thing over and over and over and over and then attack the poster/author/lecturer, instead of dealing with the facts. Nothing in my post was wrong, nothing. I think you need to go back to the prehistoric age, where your ideas and beliefs are still stuck. Nothing in this country has ever gotten done due to staying the same and being afraid to move on and progress. Everything has gotten done in the country by progressives, people who realize with life and time, you must move on and change with the times and rethink things and adjust to the reality of the day and time. Hey..what..hmm..oh, I think your dinosaur is growling for you, better go get him and ride back to prehistoric times..bye..bye.., sweetie..
You were not being attacked, you ideas are
You don't debate, you scream and holler and fling insults and names.
Where are you getting these erroneous ideas?
Especially about the taxation? Obama's tax plan is going to be of bigger benefit to me and everyone I know than McCain's ever could be.
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Decisions vs ideas.
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Even the worst of ideas
and plans that don't and won't work can be presented eloquently and there certainly will be people dumb enough to believe that those ideas and plan will actually work. This is all a bunch of fluff to get elected. Obama does give hope....it is called FALSE HOPE!
NOBAMA!!!!
Good ideas, especially #2.
The "parties" are the problems. I would also see that spending billions on crappy TV ads by the candidates wasn't done. Instead of the ridiculous debates, how about FREE TV time where ALL qualified candidates could stand before the PEOPLE and present their agenda for change in words of 1 syllable so the PEOPLE would know where they stood. No canned and doctored "questions."
I would have a weekly address to the PEOPLE and the Speaker of the House and what's the head of the Senate called, forget right now, would stand beside me and give account TO THE PEOPLE of what they had accomplished during the week.
Here's my not so genius ideas...LOL
First of all (even though I do believe in unions) the auto unions needs to work with them on this one. They can't afford to re-tool and pay high wages at the same time. At least some people who would be laid off during this time of transition could find jobs in the transition process itself. They need to simply quit producing and selling SUVs and gas guzzlers to the general public. They would have to continue to make available some things like trucks for businesses. Start making electric cars for general consumption as well as fuel efficient cars. Lower the price of cars as much as possible to undercut imports or, like you said, just stop importing them. Then we can start on the Pickens plan of using natural gas for larger vehicles.
I'm sure Obama will be calling soon for my adivse. 
You do have some good ideas
Although reading I'm thinking isn't this a little drastic? :-), but I do see your point and agree with you. This is what I would do...my brainstorming and I think it is reasonable (well maybe just some of it is reasonable)
1. Cut all politicians salaries by 25%.
2. Cut sports players and hollywood people in movies/shows by 25%.
3. All the weathiest people, lets say those who have income of half a million or more tax them at a rate of say 40% (sort of like when Bill Clinton was president but instead of taxing the middle income that outrageous tax he did, we would tax the wealthiest instead).
4. All CEO/execs of companies get a 25% salary cut.
5. Any company that is found spending bail out money on lavish parties, spas, etc, a return of the money immediatly, the company dismantled and the execs thrown in jail.
On a personal level (people like you and me). Every one should have some type of garden to be able to grow food. Our founding fathers were farmers. Why? They had to eat. Take some of the dependence off the stores (only for stuff you really can't grow or make).
Get rid of Apple computer and downsize Microsoft. Do we really need IPods and IPhones. I have a portable CD player (I bought 6 years ago) with earphones and I can hear my music just fine with that. This downloading music or whatever is just a big gimmick. I also have a cell phone I bought at radioshack and I can talk to people just fine on that. What's up with "texting". If I want to text I come home and use the computer.
Get rid of a lot of autos. Half of them are not being bought. Horse and buggy worked very well in the past and could work again too. But if you don't do that, then anyone driving around with their music playing so loud it rattles the dishes inside of the house as it passes - those people should be fined big time!
Better yet instead of cutting politician salaries by 25% do away with them. Have a representive from your own state but get rid of the whole DC congress thing. Politicians should also only be allowed one term. No 2, 3, 4 or 5 year terms. If the politicians don't work for the people they need to be fired. No more career politicians.
Every person in America should know how to feed, cloth, and protect themselves without dependence on others, and any body caught breaking into someones home should be shot on the spot - no trial. They were breaking in with the intent to steal and possibly injure or kill whowever lives there so the criminal can take what is not his/hers. Take them around the back of a building and immediately put down like the animals they are. Think of all the money we'd save not having to feed and clothe them.
Get rid of some of the TV stations. Do we really need over 400 channels of TV programs? And most of the time I still can't find anything decent to watch. I grew up in the 1960s (when TV's had tubes in the back - to this day whenever something happens to our TV I will still say, maybe there is a bad tube :-) ) But I grew up on 12 channels (except we didn't get channel 8 or 11) and I always found something entertaining to watch and when there wasn't something to watch mom taught us quilting, sewing, canning, knitting or we played a good ol fashion board game of monopoly.
I think there is too much stuff in this world people do not need.
As for taxes...we should pay, but there should be a list available of who is getting what taxes, and like when I give to charity I give to what charity I want to give to and therefore I should be able to decide which organization I want my taxes to go to. And taxes should be a flat rate. That way people who make 20,000 pay the same percentage as people who make 120,000. Unlike people like John and Teresa Kerry who paid only 6% in taxes a few years back while I paid 27%.
As for all that's going on in the country. It is very sad and depressing, but in 4 years none of us are going to care if the Mayan calendar is correct.
Discussing ideas is antagonistic?
I, personally, have been very respectful. If discussing ideas and having a dialogue with someone is antagonistic to you then I'm afraid you're in for a very difficult road in life.
His website states his ideas and how he
I was undecided until McCain picked Palin. C'mon people - she was the mayor of a town with 9,000 people. God forbid if something should happen to McCain - would you want her to step in. It's Obama for me - I've always liked Joe Biden - he doesn't think he's above everyone else and even commutes to and from work like us "normal" folk.
I have some ideas about auto bailout
Let the oil companies bail them out since they directly benefited from some of the bad management decisions.
Don't bail out the companies. Give the money to the workers for re-education, etc., while the auto companies restructure.
My first suggestion was a little cynical, but I'm not sure why the second hasn't occurred to anyone. ...
not questioning your ideas or beliefs -
I am just wondering how is that? Are you and your husband both American? I am just being nosy and I guess you don't have to answer me if you don't want to... just curious how that happened or how it works and if it was something you chose.
Here, some party sign ideas
Tea Party Sign Ideas
* We The People ARE FED UP
* Cap and Trade = Broke and Poor
* I would rather live under a bridge than live under socialism
* One Bad Ass Mistake America
* Revolution! Nuff said
* The sleeping giant is now awake
* Is this what you voted for?
* Government is Broken
* FAIR TAX
* RIP America
* I’m sorry I didn’t do more to stop the madness
* Tea is only the beginning
* Do you know what happened after 1773? We Do
* We don’t want pork, We Want Liberty
* Special Interests Get the Pork, We Get the Beans.
* Pay for Your OWN Mortgage
* Free Markets, Not Free Loaders
* No Public Money for Private Failure
* Reward Responsibility, Not Irresponsibility
* Andrew Jackson was Right: No to Bank Nationalization
* Cut Taxes, Not Deals
* Next Time, Read the Bill Before You Sign It
* You Can’t Borrow to Prosperity
* Don’t Mortgage the Future
* Solve Problems, Don’t Sweep Them Under the Table
* 220 Years to Build the Republic, 1 Month to Destroy It
* Obama has a Crisis of Competence
* Why Should I Pay for YOUR Bad Decisions
* Restore the Republic, Revolt Against Socialism
* Sleep? I’ll Sleep When Conservatives Run Congress
* Netizen Warriors, Not Dependent Whiners
* READ THE BILL NEXT TIME
* No Taxation Without Deliberation
* No Taxation Without Deliberative Representation
* No Spending Without Deliberation
* No Spending Without Deliberative Representation
* Join Our Cause: Restore the Republic
* We Don’t Want No Stinkin Socialism !
* The Very Small List: Things Government Does Well
* REPEAL THE PORK
* REPEAL THE BAILOUT CONGRESS
* We the People…are now owned by the Chinese.
* Atlas will shrug
* Stimulate business, not government
* Honk if I’m paying your mortgage
* You can’t borrow prosperity
* Home ownership is not an entitlement
* I’ll pay for my house, you pay for yours
* Party like it’s 1773
* Proud American capitalist
* Repeal the pork or your bacon is cooked
* Your mortgage is not my problem
* No taxation without deliberation
* Give me liberty or give me debt!
* You can’t spend your way out of debt
* Wake up America, stop the insanity!
* R.I.P. Free market economy
* Save trees, stop printing money
* Don’t tread on me (Gadsden flag or First Navy Jack)
* I want your money (recruiting picture of Uncle Sam)
* Wall Street got a bailout and all I got was the bill
* TARP = $750 Billion
o Stimulus = $870 Billion
o 2009 Deficit = $1.75 Trillion
o U.S. Dollar = WORTHLESS!!
* Just Say No (word “Socialism” with circle and slash)
* Liberty is all the stimulus we need
Quotes:
* “Man is not free unless the government is limited.” Ronald Reagan
* “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.” Vladmir Lenin
* “Debt, n. An ingenious substitute for the chain and whip of the slavedriver.” Ambrose Bierce
* “It takes as much imagination to create debt as to create income.” Leonard Orr
* “Debt is the fatal disease of republics, the first thing and the mightiest to undermine governments and corrupt the people.” Wendell Phillips
So, I have trouble understanding abstract ideas AND
I have no sense of humor. Anybody else?
sorry, it was ''the erroneous ideas'' post.
The link is in the above post, though. Look down toward the bottom, where it says LINK/URL.
Comesin handy when you are fresh out of ideas
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no numbers, ideas, detail or plan......
DailyKosTV has great video from the big announcement of the GOP budget today. The big news is that there really is no GOP budget. No numbers, no ideas, no details, no plan. They are the party of "NO" -- No future:
Any ideas on how paying down too much debt could be a terrorist threat?nm
Economic Downfall sm
When you have 5 minutes, watch this; it's causing quite a "furor" in the online community! =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM
Economic definitions.............
Recession is when your neighbor loses his job.
Depression is when you lose yours.
Recovery is when Obama loses his.
McCain economic plan...
Click on the individual windows to get the complete plan.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/jobsforamerica/
Don't agree. His economic plan will...
kill what economy is left. How do you give 95% of the country a tax cut when nowhere near that many even pay taxes? He will add a trillion or more to the deficit with all his plans...and how is he going to pay for that with even less tax money coming in? Oh I forgot...he is going to tax those making over $250,000. Which will kill jobs from small businesses who are S corporations (there are thousands of those) and file their income taxes personally and not as a business. Oh well. That's just what they get for being successful...they lose their business or have to downsize. Thank you so much, Mr. Obama. That will put even more people in the lower class because of job losses. If ANYone is going to divide into rich and lower class and no in between, it is Obama.
ACORN is definitely an economic issue.....
When thousands of fraudulent voters are going to the polls being counted as a vote, even though they do not truly exist in the first place, and Obama gets elected due to voter fraud, which he himself has paid to help enforce, how do you not see that as affecting our economy?
The majority of those dumb enough to help with the fraud are sadly enough easily led individuals who can't think for themselves and just do what they are told. They help to put a man in office who is going to tax them even more and they don't have the sense to know it! You don't think that affects your economy?
By the way, I am Independent.. McCain does't rock my boat either but Obama makes me want to puke!
We are broke now in an economic meltdown and
post-911 mindset. There is only one way out for those who look forward to what lays beyond that quagmire. I'll give you a hint. It does not involve a right turn.
Obama's economic plan.......
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Probably appointing economic team...
It may seem that he's acting a little early, but given the economic state of this country, I don't think that's such a bad thing.
He also has a parent-teacher meeting just before that...good for him!
Obama not going to attend economic
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Obama's economic plan
Number one, thanks for a thoughtful, relevant topic.
Number two, Obama's plan starts with rolling back the tax breaks for the wealthy that the Bush administration enacted to pre-Bush status and not make them permanent. A big step in the right direction would also be to tax the stratospheric earnings of equity-fund managers as income at 35% rather than as capital gains at 15% (they can surely afford it) and penalize them for moving their funds offshore.
Number three, all bets are off the table in light of the current GLOBAL economic crisis. The Obama administration will be so busy putting out fires they didn't start that it'll be difficult to enact any long-term or short-term economic plan. I know healthcare is a sore subject, but it's a potentially huge stimulus for middle-class folks, and huge stimuli are needed in times of severe GLOBAL recession.
Our economic situation is in no way as simple as that...wish it were!.....sm
What Mr. Rogers (love the name!) does not take into account in this equation is that in our particular case, which he did not forsee before his death, I believe, is much different. There are many hardworking, ethical, proud Americans who are very reluctantly receiving "handouts" from the government because there ARE NO JOBS to be had, the bills are due, the house is on the auction block, cannot afford medicine for a sick child, food for a starving family, heat and shelter....there are definitely people who abuse the system and use it as their piggy bank, but nowadays it can be me, you, your neighbor, anyone, no matter how many years you have worked hard, no matter how you have tried, we are in a crisis of almonst UNPRECEDENTED proportions, and still gettin worse. As for the rich, please do not get me started....TAKE from them???? don't you think that they are robbing all the American People and the System when they use all types of tax loopholes not to pay their fair share of taxes, when they move operations overseas for cheap labor and once again to avaid American taxes, when they pay lobbyists, who pay politicians, to look the other way in Congress on bills that would hurt big business but might HELP Amerfican workers???? Okay, I could go on, but I guess you get the idea how this poster feels about that particular quote. All for freedom, yes. But Free Enterprise has become the Evil Empire, as in Star Wars, (okay, hokey analogy!), and until we get that particular 2000 pound elephant out of the room and roasted, we are sunk as a nation.
I used the last economic stimulus check
It was costing me about $25 in quarters every time I went to the laudromat. Not to mention gasoline and time spent not typing. I used the $600 to buy myself a portable washing machine (attaches to sink in kitchen when in use) and a portable drier. They use very little electricity. Washer uses very little water (good thing, now that we're in a major drought), and only a teaspoon of detergent per load. So it's nice to no longer have to pay at the pump and at the 'mat!
Lots of ways to cut down costs and giving our money to the government in taxes. I now pay all my bills online. Costs me nothing. Saves me a stamp (the price of which is going up AGAIN this spring), and the use of a check that i had to pay to have printed.
If they want to send me another $400, I'm sure not gonna complain. As a single renter with no kids, I have ZERO tax breaks. Last year, the I overpaid and Calif. OWED me $300. Then they very conveniently 're-figured' my taxes, and sent me a letter saying I actually made LESS MONEY than I had put on my return, and by their calculations, they didn't owe me anything. (???) If I made less money, but still overpaid the same amount in taxes, shouldn't they owe me MORE? Needless to say, if I owe them this year, they might just be getting a $300 IOU. They can spend their bailout money collecting it from me.
Well, O had the Economic Summit today and
the stock market is tanking again. It's down to -212. I have never seen the INDP as low as today at 7154. I think part of it is because they talked about nationalizing CitiGroup and Bank of America.
We all gonna drown. Hope you all have a life jacket.
And your solution to the economic crisis is???? (nm)
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Please share, then
Please share who they really are, since you seem to know. I've been following this board for 4 years or so and I surely don't know who this poster is. Whoever they are, though, they speak the truth about your postings, Observer. You are not always the "lively" debater you claim to be when you utilize sarcasm, accusation and put-down so frequently.
I do notice that the posters from the Conservative board repeatedly accuse the posters on the Liberal board as all being the same person. Dream on.
probably not- they just share
the same talking points.
okay, let me share something with you
I found myself alone and with two children with NO child support for quite a while and YES, it does stink but you know I found a job and continued to better myself, eventually receiving a little over $200 a MONTH in child support for 2 children. Now, I don't blame anyone for my situation. I made some poor choices along the way and I PICKED MYSELF BACK UP, prayed,and did the best I could. I received AFCD for ONE MONTH... I received food stamps for ONE MONTH and after that the only other thing that helped me was a little bit of help to cover what my insurance through work didn't cover for my children; that lasted about a year. After that, not a thing... I was back on my feet, I was making better money and working two jobs, one from home. There is all sorts of help out there already and it is awful nice that it was there to help me and my children in our time of need but ya know what?? I was grateful for that. I never once thought I was owed that help and never once complained when that help stopped.
I also know a couple of people who took advantage of the financial aid for school, etc. and when they were done they were able to make the money they needed to survive.
I feel for your daughter, I really do..... but it will get better if she keeps going and strives for more than the $10/hour job.... raise her expectations a little bit and she will get there.... You know no one said this life was going to be easy and I've had my share of hardships too, mostly brought on by poor choices. I will pray for your daughter this evening and I hope things will get better for her.
There are good people out and there may be room for more help to the ones who are helping themselves if the ones who are not willing to change their circumstances and are satisfied with all the help they get continue to live off the taxpayers' money.
IMO if someone is receiving ANY kind of government assistance, they need to be drug tested and made to be accountable for every cent they receive. If they can't NO MORE HELP. PERIOD.
There are plenty of people out there on disability for back injuries for instance who are collecting a check and who knows what else YET they go out and paint houses or do construction work and get paid under the table. Do you know that in Indiana, if you receive disability, once you are approved, they do not check again, unless they have received a complaint and even then, no guarantee they would lose it. Funny how I personally know someone who applied for disability and received it within 2 months and I know another person who had to use continuous oxygen and had other real medical issues that kept him from working and he had to appeal a denial for two years, after having to retain an attorney, before they would approve his. There is something definitely wrong with that picture.
Also, there are so many people in the grocery line, using their WIC or food debit cards and then go outside to a nicer car than I have... maybe it's a relatives, who knows? But they are dressed in nice clothes and eating steak and high $$$ food that I can't always fit into our budget, and I see them with 5 kids.
Some people learn from their mistakes and some people don't think they have made mistakes and continue to manipulate the system and quite frankly it disgusts me.
Sorry this is so long, I haven't even said everything I would like, but I sincerely hope something works out for your daughter.
I would try if you had any to share.
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McCains Top 10 economic crisis strategies.
10. Blissful ignorance. "The economy is not my strong suit."
9. Ridicule. In an interview with the Washington Post on 07/9/2008, McCain advisor and national campaign general co-chair Senator Phil Gramm was defining McCain's plans to reform the U.S. economy. Gramm explained the nation was not in a recession, stating, "You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession," and "We have sort of become a nation of whiners, you just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline." This would be the same Phil Gramm of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which allowed commercial and investment banks to consolidate. The legislation allowed Swiss Bank UBS to purchase several American institutions. Gramm later became a lobbyist for UBS, collecting over 750,000 USD in fees. UBS alone issues over 18 Billion USD in subprime mortgages.
8. Denial. Black Monday, 09/15/2008. John McCain: "The fundamentals of our economy are still sound." A worldwide stock market crash occurred as Lehman Brothers filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy and major investment bank Merrill Lynch was sold to Bank of America. Dow Jones Industrial Average lost more than 500 points, which is the biggest point drop (up to that point) since September 2001. FTSE 100 dropped 212 points, and it was the biggest one-day percentage drop since January 21, 2008. Hong Kong, Japan and Korea stock market suspended that day due to public holiday, and they fell over 5% on the following day. Two weeks later, we had a blacker Monday (09/29/2008) with a 777.68 point drop on the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
7. Political grandstanding. Announcement of suspending his campaign to return to DC to "lead" Congress during economic bail-out negotiations. This effort led to a defeat of the measure when the votes were cast. Tried unsuccessfully to use the bailout as an excuse to postpone the presidential debate.
6. Flip-Flop. Claims to support regulation. Record says otherwise.
5. Incoherence. Threatens to fire the chairman of the SEC if he were in office, even though the president does not have the authority to do so.
4. Theft of intellectual property. Claiming previously existing mortgage buy-out proposal as his own.
3. Avoid / change the subject. Greg Strimple, a McCain top advisor: If we keep talking about the economy, we will lose."
2. Engage the politics of division, hate, fear mongering and cultural warfare with high-gear Obama smear campaign: Ayers, ACORN, Farrakhan, Rev Jeremiah Wright, Barack Hussein Obama, etc.
1. McCain’s send message to voters is to stop whining about the economy and start focusing on attacking Obama.
Obama's economic crisis strategy...
Vote for the bailout....and nothing else. Zip, zilch, nada. Oh, except echo Harry Reid, and I quote: "Nobody knows what to do about this." Well, no **** Sherlock. And STILL doesn't know. Not a clue. All he can say is middle class tax cuts and watch the thrills run up peoples' legs. Would be funny if it weren't so.....
I prefer the definition of economic meltdown.
Ignore it and your campaign will go down in flames.
This post is about a coherent as JM's economic plan.
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Perhaps you could enlighten us on the economic crisis suffered by
There is nothing in your chart or context that convincingly explains away the $559 billion dollar surplus Clinton left behind when his term came to an end.
Having said that, most Americans will agree that, when compared to the past 8 years, the middle class enjoyed a prosperous decade in the 90s. I was able to pay off my condo, so it has been foreclosure-proof under W.
Bush is the one that CAUSED this economic meltdown.
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Barney Frank is to blame for the economic
BUT, Barney Frank is to blame for the corrupt government interference in mortgages and forcing banks to loan to people who by no means had any business trying to buy a home!!
Barney Frank has been in Congress since 1981. He has been the head of the Financial Services Committee and has been in charge of pushing all these government regulations onto banks.....
LETS CALL IT LIKE IT IS!!! He's a corrupt SOB and he needs to be kicked out of there! And now he dares to come across suddenly acting as if he is doing EVERYTHING he can to get the banking business flowing again! BULL! He's got them just where he wants them, indebted to the government. WHat happens next? Government run banks....... socialism......governments lending YOU, the citizen, monies, owning you, your family, and everything else in your life.......you need to do YOUR HOMEWORK!
Yes, a start, but economic studies have shown that these will be....sm
long-term down the road, and we are sinking way too fast. I do agree with the grener approach, I am a "tree hugger" from way back, participated in some of the "no Nuke" protest, and am an active member of Save The Bay, as our state is right on the bay, almost an island, and this has been for the past two decades. I guess I am eager for O to stop catering to politics, even though I know it comes with the job, roll up the sleeves, and really get to the meat and bones of the stimulus package, this country is HUNGRY! Did you catch Lisa Ling's National Geographic docomentary on the new homeless shown on Oprah? That truly made me cry, because a decade ago my family was close to being one of them, I cry for the children, "bleeding heart Democrat" that I am at heart!
you don't follow politics/economic very closely then
First - signs were not hateful. Signs were truthful but the Kool-aid drinkers don't want to admit it. You consider calling us teabaggers, hillbillies, and rednecks as perfectly fine, but the minute someone points out that he is following the same path as socialist leaders you label that as "hate". What's worse is other countries are pointing it out too, not just Americans. Unfortunately it's the truth no matter whether you want to believe it or not. Last night I was watching a special about Hitler and his henchmen, and how a lot of people think he escaped. Well listing to the people talk about what he and his henchman did, I kept thinking...wait a minute...that's going on right now - (no not the genocide thing), but the way they ran their government back then. The reason you might have seen those signs on Fox was because there were no other channels covering it. BSNBC and the Communist News Network didn't cover it. Our local channels didn't cover it either. Between 250,000 to 300,000 people attended and they pretended nothing happened. What's amazing is they'll cover a story of some ducks crossing a road in some town I've never heard of, or some little kiddy motor scooter race in another unknown town, but over 2000 cities host the tea parties where there are peaceful demonstrations because people are unhappy with the government and they are excersing their right to freedom of speech (you remember the same things democrats were fighting and pushing for when Bush was in office). But there comes a double standard when only democrats can do it but republicans and independents are suppose to remain subservient and not say anything and let us be starved and unemployed and lose our homes and have to go live in shelters and we're suppose to be happy and never say anything???
As for inciting hate and racism...that is exactly what BSNBC is doing when they have Keith Olbermann show or Rachel Maddow or Chris Matthews. And then to have people like J Gorofool speak her utter hatred and racism and stupidity is unleashed. Now what she and Olbermann and the other clowns at BSNBC do...that there is inciting hate and racism. Pure and simple, no two ways about it. Why don't you actually watch Fox news before critising it. There is no hate and racism. What is racist about saying... I'm sick of congress and government taxing me to death, sending my job overseas, and I'm now having to foreclose on my house. I'm tired of them taking my money in taxes which I have no control over and they are spending it on themselves and their friends. What is racist about that???
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