With the largest jobs loss since 1945, your fix would
Posted By: jj on 2009-01-09
In Reply to: Yep, let the hard-working taxpayer pay for those - sitting on their butts. Thanks Obama.nm
simply be to evict and starve the unemployed out of existence? Wow. Compassionate conservativism at its finest.
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Alaska may be the largest state -
Unless they're counting the caribou. Oh wait... maybe she shot 'em all.
Largest tax increase in HISTORY and you think it
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temporary jobs lead to permanent jobs -
projects are always just temporary; however, they lead to more permanent positions. Also, by the time some of these "temporary" jobs are over, the crisis should be settling down too. Do you think that rebuilding our infrastructure is going to happen in a day, week, or month?
What should we do? Tell these people who will be temporarily paid not to work for the next couple of years on these jobs because they are only temporary? That is a good idea - nobody do the temporary jobs, that way the projects will never get done and the deficit will not go up, and the economy will just continue to decline...
That's a great way to handle it!
Very sorry for your loss but
bitterness never helps anything and always hurts the bearer.
I'll pray for your family though. I know the Christmas much be very difficult for you this year.
I am sorry for your loss as well. sm
However, yesterday Nazrallah released a video pretty much reinforcing what was said about terrorists and the left. It's a fact. I also honor your son-in-law's service and sacrifice.
I am sorry, very sorry for your loss....
but, what can I say?
Think of the people who had losses caused by the WWWI and WWII.
As far as job loss right now...(sn)
no, I don't hold Obama responsible for that. We have been in a recession for quite some time under Bush, and that is something that Obama inherited -- along with a deficit and a budget that didn't include the cost of 2 wars.
Since you know so many small business owners who are laying off as a "direct result" of regulations Obama is putting into play, please feel free to enlighten us as to the exact nature of those regulations. Please be specific.
I am sorry for your loss.
I don't post here much, but I will pray for you.
Very sorry for your loss Carla.
Period.
No *buts* or *howevers* or other qualifiers.
Just very very sorry. Period. 
Yes, but a loss for America.
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For every auto job loss
that seven other people in this country are affected. Think about it: Bailing out the big 3 IS bailing out the American taxpayer.
Not really a loss, IMHO.
I believe the term for him and others like him are RINOs (Republicans in name only).
Now at least he won't have to lie about which party he belongs to.
Not really a loss, IMHO.
I believe the term for him and others like him are RINOs (Republicans in name only).
Now at least he won't have to lie about which party he belongs to.
For those of you who think that loss of gun ownership can't happen here...
http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=177117&page=1&wh=wh
1929 crash saw a loss of
The high point for us was last year at 14,164 in October and an 89% loss is 1,558.
It is hard for me to see where shoring up the banks is helping anybody. We are already down almost 50% from this time last year.
No loss to our side - Specter was never truly a republican
He didn't switch sides because he is "disenchanted" with the republican party. He never voted republican to begin with. He has always been a liberal. When I heard he switched parties at first I thought he switched to be a republican. He was always left, just not as far left as most. He couldn't go too left otherwise suspicion would have been raised a long time ago. So there is no loss to the republican side since he was never really a republican to begin with. He also switched for one main reason. It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative values. It has everything to do with the fact that he does not believe he will be voted for next year as a conservative. He's done this in the past. He used to be democrat, then when he thought he would not be voted for as a democrat he switched to republican. So, he may have switched now, but don't worry, down the road if the democrats don't get voted in he will switch again for the following election.
No big loss. That poster added nothing of substance and sounded like he/she is a
troll from the conservative board. 
I read plenty thanks! You can blame loss of life
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So sorry for your loss. You make great points. Lets
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Was not aware of Carla's loss, but your response was completely uncalled for
your response about dead soliders is not only wrong but completely, completely uncalled for.
Turning Obama's loss of his last living elder relative
Palin's handicapped child was being dragged out at all hours of the day and night to help gain that hockey mom family values gal political capital. No harm in pointing that out. Pregnant daughter used by the fringe camp as a convenient way to cry sexism foul and cop out on legitimate political debate on Roe vs Wade and birth control. Son and daughter are still among the living.
Obama's grandmother has been politicizd how? He credits her for instilling him with many of the values that drive him to seek office. She raised him during his moist formative years. She is DYING, for heaven's sake. Most human beings understand that grieving this kind of loss is off limits in terms of gaining political traction. This coming from the party that would shove their morality down our throats. I am so sure.
Labor Department's report of 533,000 job losses in November — the biggest job loss in 34 years
Getting worse every day.
jobs
my husband has been a carpenter and self-employed since he was fresh out of school. after 20 years he had no job, no work anywhere. he had to go take a job at a store making less than half of what he used to make. now they are saying they may be laying him off and he hasnt been there long enough to collect unemployment. I cant imagine things getting worse, but I fear they are going to.
Not me, I have 3 jobs, thank you. Why?
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JOBS
Maybe Obama is thinking these jobs will last until he is out of office, and then when the jobs are finished, and people are out of work, he can say, see what happened when I was no longer in office.
Well of course Obama wants to keep jobs in the USA. Here is why.
Do you want $8,500 of your dollars to fund the Useless Nations? I know I don't.
Barack Hussein Obama has a legislative record in the Senate and one of his proudest accomplishments is The Global Poverty Act (S. 2433).
Barack Hussein Obama's Global Poverty Act will commit us to a stealth United Nations-inspired global tax of $845 Billion dollars... that comes to approximately an $8500.00 tax burden for every household in the United States!
Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media wrote:
"[T]he legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which... would amount to $845 billion 'over and above what the U.S. already spends.'"
"The plan passed the House in 2007 'because most members didn't realize what was in it.' Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require."
The United Nation's actual record on ending pain and suffering around the world is pathetic and dismal.
Here is the link, check it out for yourselves before you flame me. I am sure I am not the only one who is worried about what will happen when/if he gets into office.
ExposeObama.com
It is not that Americans won't do the jobs...
it is really that they will not do them for the wages given. Unfortunately, we expect a cheap food source, which we get. If farmers have to pay Americans to labor away in fields, they will have to pay more than they do and our food costs will go up. I am actually okay with that. Perhaps retail markup will have to go down some, as well. Coming from California, I know what kind of living conditions migrant famers live in (huge amounts of people in subpar housing, etc.) and understand that Americans WILL do the work, but only for a fair amount of pay.
I've had jobs since the day I was old enough to
even though there were times I could barely scrape together 2 cents to buy something I or my family needed. Yes, jobs are pretty easy to get, if you don't think you're "above" working at a gas station, McDonald's - whatever it takes. There are plenty of people who use social programs in lieu of finding a job. I see it all the time. They milk the system, if you don't admit that, you're in denial. I don't believe for one minute that the hard-working people in the country that make decent money should have to pay for these people. I have no problem with programs for those who truly need it, but if you were truly to examine most of the recipients of these programs, a good lot of them are abusing it. I worked in a law office where I saw this and I worked in medical offices where I saw this. The sad reality is that those who milk the system are darn good at it and REAP the benefits, but the people who truly need welfare, disability, etc., fight for sometimes YEARS and never receive benefits.
I think it's highly tacky of you to insinuate that the only way Whoopie could've attained her success is by using social programs. That is a borderline racist remark, IMO. Would you say that about a successful white actress? Hmmmph.
Just WHO do you think does provide jobs?
the middle class?
how to figure out which jobs are on their way out
Anything that requires a loan: houses, cars, trade schools, university of Phoenix type schools, shopping malls, vacations and travel, elective surgeries or cosmetic dental lasik surgeries, etc.
Jobs that will increase:
Anything that helps America:
Teachers, nurses, geologists, scientists, infrastructure, power grids, alternative energy, solar.
how it affects our jobs
It will affect us if the automakers fail because it is estimated that upwards of 6 million, and some estimates are as high as 10-12 million, people could potentially face unemployment. That is those working for the big 3 as well as those who supply them and those who work for business that all of these people utilize. 6 million is a lot of people now without health benefits and paychecks. Obviously, that will have an impact of numbers of doctor and hospital visits.
Green jobs.......... sm
would take quite a bit of time to implement as it would take time to build the utility facilities, not to mention retrofitting households to use green energy. I don't think this is a viable short-term plan to help our country, although I do see a benefit from it long-term. However, in creating green jobs and bankrupting the coal industry like he said he would that creates yet another situation where people will be jobless and not paying taxes. With a good portion of our electric energy coming from the coal industry, this number could be significant enough to offset any benefit obtained with green energy and green jobs.
We are in a financial crisis and I don't see that there is anyway out of it (unless they yank that Golden Fleece) without immediate tax increases on all tax-paying Americans.
Like I said, a plan is just a plan and even with a Democratic Senate, I don't foresee his tax plans coming to fruition in the near future.
You nut jobs can have this place
Keep on ranting about the stupid b/c like as if you are smarter than Hillary and McCain. If there'd been even a SNIFF of wrongdoing in the b/c, they would have drug it out and already drug it through the mud. Personally I don't think a lot of the nut jobs who hang out here are even MTs. I think they are professional political pot stirers!!!
They are bragging about 3M jobs
being created. Guess what DH reminded me of? There are millions more unemployed than the 3M (he said 10M, but I'm not sure on that), plus most of these jobs will not happen until 2011. How's that going to help?
I'm serious. That will leave 7M still on the unemployment rolls. We are really in for a long haul here. Thank heavens I don't live in a city. At least we can grow our own food.
You know if they want to create jobs
why aren't we drilling for oil? Why aren't we getting wind farms going? If our government would take more money to look into alternative fuels, not only would that stop our dependency on foreign oil but we will need workers to maintain those things, etc. Those will be jobs that will last. It won't be like construction work like Obama wants. Once the roads are repaired and bridges fixed, etc....then what? I just think we are going in the wrong direction and I just don't understand why. We need to tap our resources with offshore drilling. We need to drill Alaska. While we are doing that, we need to look for alternatives to oil. The sooner they do that, the sooner car companies can make environmentally safer cars and vehicles. I mean....come on.
I read somewhere that most of the jobs
won't get up and running until 2010 or 2011. It takes time. Everything takes time, and so, in the meantime, we have to go it on our own. It's sink or swim right now.
Particularly the construction jobs.
Those often take at least two years of planning, getting bids, getting materials and getting started. Not very helpful right now. I think everyone on the Hill has totally lost any connection with the real world.
From my understanding, the jobs
created would only be temporary. Don't forget, road and bridge construction only lasts in the summer in the northern states, and when those road and bridge jobs are done, what's next?
The money being doled out for infrastructure is definitely not enough. There are many, many roads and bridges that have to be built/rebuilt in the country and any one of them would cost $1 million and up. PA is getting $2.7M for roads. Is that going to take care of the roads? Doubt it. Headlines recenty in our paper stated PA was going to get $6B. I checked the charts and don't see where he gets that figure.
Jobs going overseas
I forgot to mention - as MSMT said in her post titled "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's wrong with the economy" - it stated on yahoo was an article about the layoffs at Dell in Austin.
"Everyone in the room was fired, their jobs shipped overseas".
That's one instance.
I'm taking an online course and 6 students wrote in stating they need to get retrained because they just lost their jobs within the last month. Their job went overseas.
But think of the ''green'' jobs
created by the new technology. Someone will have to develop a ''fartometer'' to measure the bovine emissions. Each cow will be fitted with one by a trained technician. Somebody will have to monitor the readings. Somebody else will have to compile the data. And there will need to be a billing department to calculate the ''gas tax'' due. Surely there will be a place in this new bureaucracy for displaced MTs? (Unless the readings are remotely transmitted to Pakistan...)
Every group has their nut jobs.
You cannot group all conservatives into that category especially since there are just as many nut jobs on the liberal side. Get over yourself and give me a break!
The right not only defends their nut jobs sm
they have people out there like Lamepuke and Billo the Clown pandering to these crazy loons. Some people would sell out their own mother for ratings and to put more millions of dollars into their own pockets. It's pretty pathetic that these two despicable TV/radio man sluts have to resort to attracting the lunatics of the world to boost their ratings.
Bank of America to cut 35,000 jobs.......sm
over the next 3 years. Weren't they the ones who put money in your savings account every time you made a purchase?
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4BA6ZD20081211?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
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Of course, an economy that CREATES jobs, instead
just take care of a lot of that welfare abuse. There should be more OPPORTUNITIES, and fewer loopholes.
Employers Shedding Jobs
WASHINGTON — Skittish employers slashed 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years, catapulting the unemployment rate to 6.7 percent, dramatic proof the country is careening deeper into recession.
The new figures, released by the Labor Department Friday, showed the crucial employment market deteriorating at an alarmingly rapid clip, and handed Americans some more grim news right before the holidays.
As companies throttled back hiring, the unemployment rate bolted from 6.5 percent in October to 6.7 percent last month, a 15-year high.
"These numbers are shocking," said economist Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economics Advisors. "Companies are sharply reacting to the economy's problems and slashing costs. They are not trying to ride it out."
The unemployment rate would have moved even higher if not for the exodus of 422,000 people from the work force. Economists thought many of those people probably abandoned their job searches out of sheer frustration. In November 2007, the jobless rate was at 4.7 percent.
The U.S. tipped into recession last December, a panel of experts declared earlier this week, confirming what many Americans already thought.
Since the start of the recession, the economy has lost 1.9 million jobs, the number of unemployed people increased by 2.7 million and the jobless rate rose by 1.7 percentage points.
President-elect Barack Obama said the dismal job news underscored the need for forceful action, even as he warned that the pain could not be quickly relieved.
Thank you President Bush. You have been such a disaster. You are going to go down as the worst president in our history.
Yep and we've even let nut jobs like Tom Paulin
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Offshore outsourcing and MT jobs
Senator Obama is going to stop giving tax breaks to companies who offshore. That includes Medical Transcription Companies who outsource their work to offshore companies. There will be an abundance of work for MTs here in the US, just like there used to be before our work started being sent overseas.
Medical Transcription used to be one of the top 10 careers but not anymore since it is outsourced overseas. That is why our pay is decreasing and it is harder to find a job. Senator McCain has been a senator for the last 30 years, yet our worked has continued to be sent overseas. What change has he brought about?
If you want to get the profession of Medical Transcription back to the way it used to be where we had excellent pay and an abundance of work, vote for the man who wants to stop outsourcing our work overseas. That man is Senator Obama. Do your research before you cast your vote which might in turn hurt your very own profession, Medical Transcription!
I am casting my vote for Senator Obama and looking forward to once again being proud to be an American and having the work back in America where it belongs.
The problem with his green jobs
The problem with these jobs is that they would be completely paid for by the government. The reason these jobs do not exist at the moment is that they are unprofitable. If there was a profit to be made some company would have jumped on it already. So what he would be doing would be to create a huge government-run and taxpayer-financed company that would take years to ever even possibly turn a profit and there is no guarantee it would. EVER.
I'm getting a little off track here, but consider this. Right now the government subsidizes mandatory recycling programs in many areas. So they run extra trucks, using extra fuel and creating extra pollution and, unfortunately what most people do not realize is that the items collected are dumped somewhere. The vast majority are NOT recycled, because it is not cost-efficient. The dirty little secret is that most of this ends up in a landfill.
So the government's intentions are good, but they choose to turn a blind eye to the truth.
You have 3 jobs because the former admin. rewards
driving MT wages down. If US MT's were the company's first choice of employees, and not their last, maybe you & the rest of us would have one, regular 40-hour a week job with health insurance and paid vacations once again. Don't you miss having a day off once in a while? Being able to afford fresh bread instead of day-old? And believing that your work actually made a difference? 'Cause it sure doesn't now. That's why you're working 3 jobs. Because you have to. Not because MT is such an enjoyable and rewarding profession that you just cant get enough of it.
It provides GOVT jobs! -Who pays for that?
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