You are right, and I am hoping this may be the natural evolution......sm
Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-22
In Reply to: There's no way that would happen - Backwards typist
of politics in this country. Back in Colonial America, there were the Federalists versus the Rebublican-Democrats, which turned into the "party" system we now have (love your comment about "party!"), big business and big money will always be in bed with the politicians, and that will keep propagating and feeding this political mess, but I have to think if the Libertarian or Independent parties were to have a strong enough candidate with a really well-crafted, timely, imperative platform, we could all vote with our pockets, one voter at at time, to strengthen a three or four-party system over time? Am I just wishing and praying, because I am seeing way too much back-scratching payola going on on BOTH SIDES of the aisles in Congress!
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Also creationism over evolution, does not believe
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THEORY of evolution
Just that, a theory. It has never been proven. Just a cop out so you don't have to believe that someone BIGGER and BETTER created you.
Belief in God and in evolution are not
in the REAL world. No cop-out here, but I am wondering where this edge of hostility is coming from? If you are getting ready to lecture me, convert me, prosthelitize me, save me or whatever, PLEASE take it to the religion board. The thread is about the EU.
Evolution/creation
I don't necessarily think evolution is in oppposition to creation unless God is left out of the equation. The Bible doesn't say HOW God created the heaven and earth. Left to it's own devices can you just imagine evolution without any direction? Chaos. My argument against evolution as the basis for creation is why did some monkeys become human and some stayed monkeys. The way some people act though I don't find it hard to believe they sprung up from monkeys.
Now that's natural beauty....(NM)
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This is a natural consequence
of electing a 'rock star' president. I would not be surprised if tabloids begin referring to him as 'Barry' they way they do Brad, Jen, Angie and the rest.
Barry rising from the waves......As guys over 40 go, he's okay, but could use some definition in the pecs and seems just a bit slack at the waist. Not really a show-quality bod, even if he is America's fittest president. Better not quit his day job.
the natural history of the trout
''Trout pout'' is a term to describe the weird fat lips of people who've had collagen injections. The lips get all poochy like fish lips.
As for the ''racism,'' just a little joke--I was getting tired of all the monkey business in those other threads, so moved on to other animals!
If Obama is a natural born citizen,
then why doesn't he provide it to the court, along with his medical and educational background? I don't think a scan of a birth certificate does it. Give the evidence to the court. Factcheck.org has the Annenburg connection, so it is not an objective source.
Does that not bother you that he will not do the right thing? If he has nothing to hide, why is this buried in the legal system? Get it over with and provide it to the court.
His mother was a natural-born US citizen...sm
and lived in the US all her life before she gave birth at 18. Your statement only applied. to children born to naturalized citizens who are living outside the US, the purpose being someone who comes to this country and becomes naturalized, then after a few years moves to another country, cannot expect their children that are born in that other country be considered natural-born citizens with the right to run for president. I will double check with my brother tonight, but I am pretty sure that is how he explained it.
Anchor babies are natural citizens... sm
by virtue of being born on American soil, just as the babies of Chinese immigrants or German immigrants or any other nationality are citizens of this country if they are born on US soil. Granted, the influx of illegal aliens from Mexico has created a problem in that it has burdened the welfare system in this country, but that is not the issue here.
The issue is that Obama cannot produce proof that he is a natural born American citizen. The birth certificate floating around the internet purported to be real is a fake. You can find anything on the internet these days, true or not. Just the fact that liberals shoot down every article posted in support of a conservative's point of view as being "not a credible source" is proof of that.
Mr. Obama is well aware of the questions being raised concerning his birth certificate. If he had a REAL birth certificate, why would he just not produce it and put an end to all the speculation? Because he can't, plain and simple. He flew to Hawaii to see his ailing grandmother and "coincidentally" his "birth records" were sealed at the same time. Isn't that interesting?
Mr. Obama lived for 5 years in Indonesia, a country that does not recognize dual citizenship, therefore nullifying his American citizenship IF it ever existed in the first place. There are no records on file where he ever applied for citizenship after returning to the US.
We have to produce birth certificates for our children to attend school today. Why shouldn't the man who would be POTUS have to show his?
Barack Obama is not even legally a black American. He only has one black great-great-grandmother on his father's side while the other 7 were Arab.
That makes him 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% black. 12.5% is the minimum required to legally claim any racial status in America.
Obama would qualify as the first Arab-American president, NOT the first black president. That is why they keep saying "African-American" and NOT black because they know he is African Arab and not African black.
Why would you want anyone who has any kind of questionable background leading our country? Would you allow persons of questionable background to teach your children in school? What if that person was suspected of having an inappropriate relationship with a child but it could not be proven? Would you want to run that risk?
I agree that America has more pressing problems that whether the man about to take the helm is a natural born citizen, but do you want someone who is not even an American leading us through these problems?
Correct, Arnold is not a natural-born citizen. sm
Neither of his parents were American citizens when he was born. He is a naturalized American citizen and cannot run for president unless there is an amendment to the US Constitution.
Obama is a natural-born American...see message
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Now you can sleep well. I'm not voting for Obama, but I can't stand it when people stir crap up that isn't true.
I've heard that natural gas heating costs are expected to TRIPLE this winter!
I have gas heat, and so does my daughter.
Your mother is fortunate to have you and your sisters to help her. Makes me worry about all the elderly people barely scraping by on Social Security who have no family. I guess they and the other poor people are just considered to have no value and are disposable. I guess someday I'll be disposable, as well.
I totally agree with what Putin said. Of ALL the places in the world to force change upon, the Middle East is probably the worst one! Change does have to come from within. Their culture is so different from ours, and I believe we should respect all cultures that are different from ours. Sometimes I wonder who would win an election in Iraq if Saddam was suddenly back on the ballot. When Bush debated Gore in 2000, Bush claimed to be against nation building (though he said Cheney was in favor of it, which leads me to believe that Cheney really IS running the administration, as has often been alleged).
I always watch closely when Putin and Bush have press conferences. Putin should be called Pukin because he's always got this look of disgust on his face, as if he's about to run out of patience with Bush and his idiocy.
I remember when we first began to brag that the Cold War is over. I always thought that was a stupid thing to say, because it's never over till it's over. History will be the judge of that. I often wondered how a country full of people who were accustomed to having their vital needs met by their government as a RIGHT, rather than a privilege, could possibly survive in the dog-eat-dog, sometimes unscrupulous atmosphere of capitalism. As far as I know, Putin isn't all that enamored with capitalism, and I'm just waiting for Russia to once again become communistic or maybe socialistic. I guess time will tell. 
Obama’s Friends Working to Amend the Natural Born Citizen Requirement...
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/obama-covertly-working-to-amend-the-natural-born-citizen-requirement/
You bet!! I was SO hoping it would go this way....
she is PERFECT.
Here's hoping
he does not get angry with her in public and call her the "C" word like he called his wife. He is well-known for explosive temper, we must remember.
You could be right, but I am hoping there is not that many demented sm
people out there. I would rather think someone is fixing the numbers up than think we have that many Americans who are haters.
I'm hoping too. Very exciting.
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I'm hoping for Romney
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would much rather see action that hoping a
action speaks louder than words, they say
Well....I'm hoping others thing so too
so McCain gets more undecided votes. LOL! I do believe he is a racist though....no doubt in my mind.
Here's hoping you will find your way
fear and dark foreboding. It does not sound like a very happy place. While erring on the side that change can be good, you may be in for a pleasant surprise.
They are hoping we are stupid....
and THAT's their vision of HOPE.
Hip hop, hip hop, tax cuts to the wealthy way on top, big corps are our friends, forget about the citizens. Yeah, we beat our chest and boast fake tans, cuz we want all the money, screw the little man. So what if we're on the take, let them eat cake. Drivin' my Benz, collectin' big dividends. We hate the poor, shove 'em out the door. No healthcare works well, may their bodies bloat and swell, with the dis-ease of the times, hit 'em with big fat fines. We will collect our swag any way we can, just gotta git rid of that magic black man. Hey, HO
No, here's hoping Obama will undue the...sm
Damage the Bush admin. has done in cutting funding and throwing up roadblocks to anything that doesn't support their "abstinence only" idealogy - which has been a stunning failure though you'll never hear them admit it.
You won't vote for Obama because he's so liberal. I'll vote for him precisely because he is.
Kudo's to you. I was hoping you'd respond
to the tactics of those who try to silence others who don't agree with them.
Mom always told me you don't like the channel change it, you don't have to watch something you don't want to. Same with the posters. If they don't like what you have to say, ignore it and move on.
Life's too short.
Hoping she gets to go back to Alaska
Nov. 4 so that she can keep getting her tans....or therapy for depression, whichever.
Hoping you and Bill M. move there first,
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That's why I'm hoping McCain wins. Then - sm
nobody in America will ever ridicule anybody ever again.
Here's hoping Chicago workers' sit-in and
good things to come. As Bank of America acquires Merrill-Lynch (whose CEO has the utter gall to request a $10 million bonus pay-out after the ML sell-out) they are refusing credit to Republic Windows and Doors out of Chicago after receiving $15 billion in TARP funds. The workers are fighting back to recover the pay and benefits they have already earned and their governor is backing them up. Now that's what I'm talkin' about !
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aw5QzWC86Vl8&refer=home
Here's hoping the feds will mobilize appropriate
keep their eyeballs unpeeled on such screwball organizations.
Yes, I am just hoping that Obama wont end up the
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I was hoping to get the shrub out of office...nm
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Wow - I'm shocked. I guess I was hoping, for your
sake, that you weren't "fully grown" yet - it seems that something has gone terribly awry here in the maturation process. Not much more to say.
I'm hoping that some in Congress and the Senate
don't let him blindly lead them down that road. We have a national security force now, the National Guard, but of course, they're stuck fighting for our country since the draft was banned.
We need to get back to draft registration like it used to be, then our military will be good and the Guard can stay home and protect us like they're supposed to be doing.
Great! YOU support it. Here's hoping McCain...
gets elected and yanks federal funding for abortions. There are certainly enough of you pro choicers to pay for it. Pro lifers shouldn't have to. Keep sending those checks. See how long Planned Parenthood hawks abortion if they aren't making a killing while they are killing. But, as one of the posters said to me...all of your pro choicers put your money where your mouth is and support the choice financially. Works for me. Send two checks. Send a check every week. Heck, put them in your will. lol.
Not hoping, but AT THIS POINT, WE KNOW OBIE WILL WIN A LANDSLIDE
PARTY
Geez. No. Get a grip. I was sincerely hoping...
that no one ever places you in the position you are placing these babies.
Those are just bones thrown in hoping to pacify
some us who smell something foul. Charges "can" be filed against him again. And for now he is "still in custody." Pretty soon, Gitmo will be closed and they won't have sufficient evidence to refile charges and they will say they have no choice but to release him...
That's my prediction.
Was hoping you were hanging aroud the water cooler.
and of greater importance, this is just yet one more illustration of the judgment deficit that will bring them down in flames. Hat's off to JJ.
Yeah, I am hoping Obama WONT be a disaster.
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Yeah, I am hoping Obama WONT be a disaster
See I too can keep repeating like you.
My social security kicks in this April and I am hoping
they have enough left to get me through my life. I am not worried about that basically but I can hardly wait, full retirement age so working, drawing from there- priceless.
Hoping we can save our great country from going down the toilet...sm
and desiring to bring about real CHANGE from a worn out, tired system of doing things, perhaps implementing changes that could save the economy, save the American people who have been hurt by a President who run the country doing "same ole, same ole," watching us crash and burn for someone else to clean up....yes, how DARE anyone run on that platform. The sky if falling, we are all going to sit here and point fingers and cry about it, do nothing or the same things that got us here in the firt place.....now we are going to put down hope and change as a BAD thing because Obama used the words. I guess we will all do nothing and never hope for better.
And I gather that's what you're hoping to happen because you hate Obama.
And hoping for Bush and his daughters and wife to burn in hell is just kidding right? sm
Just want to get this clear.
natural born does not mean you have to be born physically in the US -
My daughter was born in Germany, but because I am an American she is an American. She has no problems and is considered natural born - that just means you did not have to go through the hoops to become an American citizen.
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