You sound OBSESSED with this bill.
Posted By: Fugetaboudit! on 2008-09-29
In Reply to: THen why didn't the democrats just pass it.... - sam
It'll pass, if and when it's made worthy of passing. I wouldn't want voting for it in its present form on my record, would you? Why would anyone who wanted to continue to have a career in politics want to vote for something that would most likely go down in flames?
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
not a lie and you are still obsessed.
You seem to be obsessed with me and what I'm doing....
how weird is that?? lol
are you obsessed, per chance?
Are you obsessed with gt? This post must have been from a while ago, I don't remember reading it. To actually spend time to find it and repost it, I don't know about that. I guess my point is, do you really think your reposting is changing anything political-wise when it comes to ideology and trying to open other's minds or understand the opposite political spectrum? What is your purpose of reposting something from weeks ago other than to cause disruption and conflict on the board and to actually try to cause hate which, from what I have read, the liberals posting on this board have been doing a good job trying to keep harmony. Can I make a suggestion, let it go.
Those obsessed with hate see little else.
And it's unfortunate, because even up until 9/11 Americans were virtually indivisible when it came to responding to tragedy and united in their compassion for the afflicted.
I for one have a lot of faith in Americans still - I know they have come and are coming to the aid of the Gulf Coast victims. I also think they have a right to question WHERE exactly our billions of dollars for Homeland Security went, when clearly nobody in authority was prepared for disaster even with two days' advance warning. What's up with that, we want to know - and we want answers.
To trivialize such an important issue by saying ooh you poopy haters is simply to make a mockery out of the concern nearly all Americans feel about what's happening now and what's going to happen when the next disaster comes to their own door.
Since you are obsessed with tallies>>>>
Stick this tally somewhere.....
page 2
liberal board - 45 nasty posts that don't belong
Con board - 4 posts that don't belong
You conservatives twist the facts and lie, lie, lie and twist some more. Can you ever face up to ANYTHING that you've done? Can you ever use factual evidence? and why not???? What is it you are so gosh-darned afraid of so that you are willing to sacrifice every shred of integrity you may have ever had?
but yet you all are obsessed with Ann Coulter?
I guess a person who is supposed to be teaching objective education gets a pass for saying outrageous stuff and commiting plagarism, but an author out in the marketplace whose products can be bought or not bought is a HUGE threat to all of all.
Typical liberalism. To liberalism capitalism is the enemy.
I understand you are a bit obsessed with me...(sm)
but I can assure you that I am not responsible for every liberal post on this board -- just the ones with my name on them. You really are making yourself look foolish, much (I'm sure) to the amusement of many. 
Where's the curse word? And why are you so obsessed with GT?
Are you some kind of closet gay who has the hots for her? Because you're acting like it because you never let up on her. Your obsession is obvious.
I'm glad I'm not GT because, frankly, you give me the creeps.
GT: RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN as fast as you can!!!
LOL! My, my, I didn't realize you were so obsessed with me.
In any other situation, that could be flattering. However, in this situation, it's downright creepy and even scary because you don't appear to be a very stable person.
I saw most (not all, apparently) of what happened the other day. And, no, you're not going to bait me into repeating the two-letter *word* he posted simply because you want to get me banned from the board (which will probably happen, anyway, if I continue to disagree with you and espouse liberal beliefs on the LIBERAL BOARD, so be patient, you'll eventually get your way). Nice try, though.
It obviously was his first time on the board. He was there because a prior comment of his that was 1-1/2 years old was posted there out of context. He then was attacked for posting his initial response that was equally 1-1/2 years old.
Since you obviously have no respect for the moderator's rules, I think it's best if I don't continue feeding the trolls, especially unstable ones.
Have a blessed day, dear. 
Emily Ayn...you seem obsessed with race.
What's up with that? Are you a card-carrying racist?
I see you're still obsessed over SP and the kids
nm
When Bill Clinton was in office, OHHH you better believe Bill and Carter have had..sm
their day of mudslinging matches, at the pleasure of a many conservatives. So, no there's not a double standard here.
Honestly sam...you really need to get a life...You are completely obsessed by all this...sm
This is not healthy for you to stress and research over what you cannot control unless of course you are being paid to defend Palin.
Unreal!!!
Bill Maher Takes On Bill O'Reilly
BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Personal Story" segment tonight, political humorist Bill Maher (search), he has a new book out called "New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer." Of course, Mr. Maher is about as polite as I am and as timid as Dracula. He joins us now from Los Angeles.
You know, you've had some celebrities on your HBO show, "Real Time," which begins again on Friday, talking about policy and war on terror and stuff like that. I get the feeling they don't know very much, but you do. So I'd like to make Bill Maher, right now, the terror czar. Bill Maher, the terror czar. Could be a series.
How would you fight this War on Terror? How would you fight it?
BILL MAHER, HOST, HBO'S "REAL TIME": I think the first and most important thing is to get the politics out of the War on Terror. You know, maybe I'm a cockeyed optimist, Bill, maybe I'm naive, but I thought that 9/11 was such a jarring event that nobody would dare return to business as usual on that one subject after that.
But of course, we found out that nothing could be further from the truth. And your president, my president too, but the one you voted for...
O'REILLY: You don't know that. Were you looking over my shoulder there? I could have voted for Nader. I could have voted for Kerry, but Kerry wouldn't come on the program, so I wouldn't vote. But I could have gone for Ralph. Ralph's a friend of mine.
MAHER: Yes. Anyway, I said the guy you voted for, President Bush, you know, how come this guy, who was supposed to be such a kick-and-take- names kind of guy, how come he has not been able to get the politics out of this?
You know, as a guy who's been accused of treason, I'll tell you what real treason is: Treason is when legislators vote against homeland security measures because it goes against the wishes of their political or financial backers. Treason is the fact that, as a terrorist, you could still buy a gun in this country because the NRA (search) lobby is so strong.
O'REILLY: OK. But you're getting into the political, and I agree with you. I think that the country should be united in trying to seek out and kill terrorists, who would kill us.
But I'd like to have some concrete things that you, Bill Maher, the terror czar — and take this seriously, this could be a series — what would you do?
All right, so you've got bin Laden. You've got Al Qaeda (search). You've got a bunch of other lower-level terrorist groups. What do you do to neutralize them?
MAHER: OK. Well, first of all, you discounted my answer, which is get the politics out, but OK.
O'REILLY: Well, assume you can do that. They're gone.
MAHER: We'll let that go. Keep going. I wouldn't worry that much about bin Laden. I mean, capturing bin Laden at this point, it doesn't really matter whether he's dead or alive. He's already Tupac to the people who care about him and work for him. Capturing bin Laden, killing him would be like when Ray Kroc died, how much that affected McDonald's.
O'REILLY: It would be a morale booster. But I understand. You're not going to send...
MAHER: A morale booster, right. Well, we've had plenty of morale boosting. We've had plenty of window dressing. What we need is concrete action.
In the book I wrote before this one about terrorism, I suggested that we have a Secret Service for the people. I said whenever the president goes anywhere, he has very high-level, intelligent detectives who look around at a crowd. They know what they're looking for. They're highly paid. They're highly trained.
We don't have that in this country. We should have that. We should have a cadre of 10,000 highly trained people who would guard all public events, bus stations, train stations, airports — and stop with this nonsense that this robotic sort of window dressing...
O'REILLY: OK, so you would create a homeland security office that was basically a security firm for major targets and things like that. It's not a bad idea. Costs a lot of money. Costs a lot of money. It's not a bad idea.
MAHER: Costs a lot of money compared to what? If you paid 10,000 people a salary of $100,000 a year, that would, I think, cost $10 billion or something. That's nothing. There's that much pork in the transportation bill before you get...
O'REILLY: Yes, 10,000 wouldn't do it, but I get your drift.
MAHER: Whatever it costs.
O’REILLY: You would create a super-security apparatus. OK, that's not bad. That's not bad. How about overseas now?
MAHER: What we need to do is what I call get Israeli about this. Because the Israelis are not afraid of profiling. The Israelis are not afraid to bury politics in the greater cause of protecting their nation. We don't act that way. You know, I'm afraid 9/11 really changed nothing.
O'REILLY: Boy, your ACLU (search) pals aren't going to like that. You're going to lose your membership card there.
MAHER: I'm not a member of the ACLU.
O'REILLY: Oh, sure you are, just like I voted for Bush. You're a member of the ACLU. I can see the card right in your pocket there.
MAHER: Bill, I'm not a joiner. I'm not a joiner. I don't like organizations.
O'REILLY: They won't have you, Maher, let's be honest about that. All right, now, in your book, which is very amusing, by the way — if you want a few laughs buy Maher's book.
MAHER: Thank you.
O'REILLY: You take some shots at FOX News, which is your wont, and I just want to know why you think we're so fabulously successful here.
MAHER: Well, I think that question has been answered many times. It's because the conservative viewer in this country, or on radio the conservative listener, is very predictable. They like to hear what they like to hear. They like to hear it over and over again.
O'REILLY: All the surveys show that the viewers are all over the map. They're not conservative in a big bloc. Some of them are moderate. Some of them are Democrats. Some of them are Moroccans. I mean, they're everywhere. That's your analysis? That just the conservatives watch us?
MAHER: Well, I think mostly the conservatives do watch you. That's not to take anything away from what you guys have achieved over there. It's a very well-produced broadcast, and they have excellent personalities like yourself, Bill. Who could resist watching you when you get home from work at night?
O'REILLY: Whoopi Goldberg, maybe? I don't know.
MAHER: Yes.
O'REILLY: Anyone who doesn't watch here is misguided. We identify them as such.
But look, I think there's more to it than — you're in TV. You know the ratings game. I mean, if you don't provide a product that is satisfying people, no matter what your ideology, they tell you to take a hike.
There's a guy over at MSNBC. He's a very conservative guy. He was hired and nobody's watching him. They hire liberals. Nobody watches them. Air America (search). Nobody's listening to it.
I mean, there's got to be a reason why we're No. 1, a punch line for you, and No. 2, you know, becoming the most powerful news network in the world.
MAHER: Well, I think, as I say, it's a well-produced product. You know, your program moves along, always at a clip that never seems to bore. You know, you move along to the next topic, the next guest. It never sort of drags. I don't think a lot of people know how to produce that stuff that way.
O'REILLY: All right. It's bells and whistles and my charming personality. That's what I thought it was.
Last thing: You know, one thing I like about Maher is he's not a hypocrite. He drives a little hybrid vehicle. Right? You putter around there. Does it have training wheels? What's it like?
MAHER: Actually, I had the Prius hybrid for three years. I was one of the first ones to get it right after 9/11. And I traded it in a few months ago for the Lexus hybrid.
O'REILLY: I think we should all cut back on our energy consumption, and I think we should all get these hybrids as fast as we can.
Hey, Bill, always nice to see you. Thanks very much. Good luck with the season on the TV show.
MAHER: Continued success there, Mr. No. 1.
O'REILLY: All right. Thank you.
Watch "The O'Reilly Factor" weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to the "Radio Factor!"
Content and Programming Copyright 2005 Fox News Network, L.L.C. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Transcription Copyright 2005 eMediaMillWorks, Inc. (f/k/a Federal Document Clearing House, Inc.), which takes sole responsibility for the accuracy of the transcription. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. No license is granted to the user of this material except for the user's personal or internal use and, in such case, only one copy may be printed, nor shall user use any material for commercial purposes or in any fashion that may infringe upon Fox News Network, L.L.C.'s and eMediaMillWorks, Inc.'s copyrights or other proprietary rights or interests in the material. This is not a legal transcript for purposes of litigation.
Bill Clinton and his ties to India (yes, Bill),...
and China (yes, Bill) sent a lot of our jobs their way. Google it some time. Even I was amazed.
Look, it is simple economics. The big bad corporations everyone hates...first of all, it is not 5 or 6 rich guys and that's it. They employee thousands of people just like us...and when the government puts those huge taxes on them, if they want to stay in business, they are forced to move offshore. Higher taxes are responsible for more jobs going overseas than "greed." The DNC has told its members for years that "corporations" and "the rich" are the cause of all their problems and they have bought that Marxist rhetoric hook, line, and sinker. Corporations are not the cause of ill in this country. They are the backbone of the economy in this country. That is simple economics 101. And I am certainly not rich...and I certainly am not on the upper echelon of a corporation, but I do understand reality and I understand how the economy works. Yes, there is wrongdoing by some upper level folks in corporations. There is wrongdoing in the government. Where there is power, there will be wrongdoing. But for every Enron there are thousands of other good, solid companies that employ thousands of Americans, but the DNC does not share the success stories, because it does not promote their agenda. In order to control people they want them beholden to government and hating free enterprise. They want big government, total power, and control. And following Alinksy's program...you have to instill class warfare. You have to make corporations the enemy. You have to make classes envy the next rung up. Classic Marxist socialism. It is being played out in this country every day.
It is just that some of us have not bought the myth and jumped on the socialism train.
Did you read the bill? It was a regulatory reform bill...
asking them to regulate, not de-regulate. But Democrats blocked it...no wonder. Fannie was greasing a lot of Democratic palms...and Frederick Raines, the Dem CEO at the time...was in the Clinton administration. They were taking care of their own...and we are paying for it.
So you are obsessed with chili dogs, cheese fries, whirling dervishes
you cannot manage to focus on the subject at hand. Like I said, dear, you are a bit confused.
PS. FYI, the Sufi Dervish practitioners are famous for being a source of wisdom, medicine, poetry, enlightenment, and witticisms, so thanks for the compliment.
if abe is on the $5 bill & george is on the $1 bill, what is Obama on?
****censored****
Does this sound like more of the same or what?
nm
you sound no different than what men say...
I have no idea where you even got: Take pot shots at her skills or work history, but how can you possibly rip on her for having a career and children.
- so any woman who does not work and raises children which is probably THE most important job, they are beneath you?
and then this: Do you want us all barefoot, pregnant, and waiting on Ward hand and foot again?
ROTFL - who are you responding to?
You know, you may not mean to, but you sound...
supremely arrogant. You don't know me and you have ballooned something simple into something ridiculous.
Number one...I was not clear on the Infants born Alive Act, because the Infants Born Alive bill DID pass on the federal level..and I did lobby my congresspeople to vote for it, which they did, so obviously most of their constituents wanted them to pass it. Most people don't even know it went to the federal level and was passed. Nobody got up and announced that either...but I was following it. I follow those kinds of things, and believe me, locally people knew about it too. Most pro life groups knew about it. I was informed about in via email because I am in touch with pro life groups. So, again, please do not act like you know who I am or what I believe in or stand up for. Because you don't. And, by the way, Obama did not "weigh in" on the federal bill. I still find his stand on it in Illinois callous to the enth degree and his morality and decision making process, in MY opinion, are seriously lacking.
So, thankfully, no more babies piling up, unless of course he repeals the law when he becomes President. I would not put it past him.
Again, you might not mean to sound like you are on a high horse, but that is the way you come off.
As to looking to come out clean...all I said, and all I MEANT was: I am so opposed to Barack Obama, and everything I believe he stands for, that I will not be party to his getting into the white house in any way, shape or form. I campaign locally against him, I volunteer at the McCain offices, and will do whatever I can to prevent his being elected. Including not voting for him myself. BUT..if he IS elected...and the economy and this country take the road I think they will take...I will not have the added burden of regretting voting for him and giving him the power to hose this country. THAT has NOTHING to do with coming out clean in a mess.
You sound like me!!!
Our fridge is a Montgomery-Ward (no idea how old it is, but it still works). The stove has pilot lights - my mom's stove is over 20 years old and has electronic ignition. We have crap well water, too. Turns everything orange. God knows what's in it besides iron. We haul water from my family's homes 2 hours away every time we visit, for cooking and drinking. My husband and I had the bare minimum to start up with, so, I go to Salvation Army or Goodwill to buy household goods - glasses, casserole dishes, table cloths, etc. It's not MADE IN CHINA. It's good old fashioned stuff that has "character." And at the same time I am recycling and giving back to the community (screw Wal-Mart). I could care less about material crap. I do have a newer vehicle (Scion xB 2008) - but I needed something dependable to get me back and forth to help care for my dying father. My husband can't change a lightbulb and my old car was nickle and diming me to death. Most of my money goes to groceries, too. Now you have me craving crab legs.........
Nothing but the sound of crickets....
I got this from the conservative board, one of their faves. Tee-hee.
You sound so sexist.
or not. You can still be predjucial against others, and you obviously have problems with women.
You sound like a kindergarner
You come by here and make little snips, not really saying anything, just trolling. If you have something to add, please say it, but try to act like a grownup.
yes, you sound simple.
nm
Feel better now? You sound
awfully miserable in your skin...
Just how stupid can you sound?
Who the h@ll cares if this guy is license or not? He's not the running for president....I believe that is Obama, the person that is supposed to have questions asked of him. You afraid to have Obama answers questions that haven't be scripted beforehand? I'm sure you are, now that he was actually heard saying spread the wealth. He actually lost votes after that. His true colors are not out there for everyone to see.
Not sure why you feel so bitter that you name call a guy who was just standing in the crowd asking a question. I find it rather humerous that O lovers suddenly start attacking a citizen for asking a simple question of the very "policies" O is spewing out there. Man, ya'll must be desperate!
You don't sound educated because
of some of your posts below.
You sound so full of yourself
bust a gut at any moment, so could be all that mountain biking has been in vain and instead your perfectly proportioned bod is bloated with bull.
Your OP is a good example why there is a difference between those folks you claim to hang with and the ones here who have to endure the cesspool that those types of remarks turn this forum into on a minute-by-minute basis.
You missed the point of the other post. Here's a hint. It was not about chili dogs and cheese and going gaga over Obama, but you were in such a hurry to try to be cute while you post your disgust, you didn't notice.
I too would like to suggest that it might be a good idea to at least CONSIDER keeping your pot shot drive by negative snipes to yourself every now and then.
Do you realize how you sound?
It does no good to call others names- it only makes you look bad. So sorry many on here so outraged because the other guy and his side-kick, whatever that person's name was from Alaska is, did not make it but we have chosen the correct leader. To say the president who left kept us safe is laughable- remember 9/11? Who was the president then? I rest my case.
You sound just like Tom Cruise
saying 'I know the history of psychiatry. YOU don't know the history of psychiatry.' and then yammering on and on about Scientology.
Look straight into the light. Don't turn away. Don't blink........
It did sound like rubbish, however....
The original post sounded a bit out there, but I can't agree with your view of the job situation picking up. Their numbers reflect less people losing their jobs in the most recent months, but the overall unemployment numbers suck. What I'm saying is, while less people lost their jobs in March, it doesn't mean the people who lost their jobs in December, January and February found work. There are job markets that do better in the spring and summer seasons, but overall, the job market does not look good.
I said SOUND laws..
Giving women the right to vote WAS A SOUND LAW. I think someone has missed their naptime.
They all sound like a broken record.sm
I think they all learned this from Hannity on Fox. They call everyone asking questions conspiratory theorists, or if they cannot shoot the message they focus the blame on Clinton. The one thing they never do is answer THE QUESTIONS. Here is a link to an article on Hannity's histrionics on 911.
http://www.newshounds.us/2005/10/23/hannitys_hackneyed_histrionics_over_911.php
You sound like Big Brother! Creepy!
You deduced a lot from a 4-second sound bite!
I'm sure your opinions are not soley based on that one sound bite, and the assertion that shoulder rubbing is *groping.*
I'll tell ya what's pathetic it's the fact that the liberals think that Middle East situation disintegrated during the Bush administration. The Middle East has been unstable for years, eons in fact.
Oh my God. You really sound ignorant, but I am not going to say anymore. nm
/....
The sound of one hand clapping.....
It is really unfortunate that we cannot seem to dig this dialog out of the gutter long enough to actually examine the pros and cons of the real issues in this election, and that we spend such inordinate amounts of time resorting to repugnant repartee, revolving around these divisive personal attacks on our candidates, their wives and their various collective associations. Looks like we would rather dish dirt than consider, even for a single second, the value of our diverse experiences, perspectives and ideas; nor are we willing to extend any respect whatsoever as we attempt to define and mediate our differences, examine our common objectives and come up with fair and equitable compromises that reflect and represent to the greatest degree possible the very best we have to offer. Why is it that we cannot recognize how desperately we need to foster unity, seek consensus, create solutions, propose and implement policies? It’s dumb, and it’s truly sad. Is that who we really want to be?
Let’s see. What else could we be talking about? International issues, such as foreign policy, Homeland Security, war and peace, free trade, human rights, refugees, immigration, oil and energy. How about domestic issues like gun control, crime, drugs, civil rights, jobs, the environment. Then there are our pocketbooks, the budget and economy, government reform, election reform, tax reform, Social Security, welfare and poverty, technology, the infrastructure. Let us not forget the social issues, to include education, health care, abortion, families and children, corporations, principles and values.
Where have all the issues gone? Hellooooo…is anybody home?
This is good, sound thinking.
I agree. I would love to go back in-house. As for Shelly's situation, I am wondering if geography is not playing a role. Some parts of the country will be suffer more than others and for longer.
They always sound like they're posting about themselves...sm
to me.....everything they say, can be applied ten-fold to the mass liberal media.
They are scarier than heck.
My husband always says to me, that the left projects onto the right, what they are themselves....the negative stuff, that is. And boy is that ever true this election cycle.
yeesh.....
They certainly aren't the democratic party of my parents, or I would have stuck with it.
Now you sound like a Christian in the true
sense of the word. Someone once told me that he was asked to give money, found out later the person didn't need it. His response, "I would rather give my money to someone who says they need it and not need it than NOT to give to a person who truly needs it. If they are bold enough to ask for it and fool me, it doesn't matter. He will be dealt with later."
you sound like a very angry person nm
nm
You sound like the chicken, m'dear - sm
Braaaaaaaak. Braaaaaaak.
Honestly, I would have a little more respect for the left-wing's attempts at discourse if they didn't continually scour the internet for Obama propaganda and then shout it from the hilltops as if it were gospel truth.
FACT - These men are both SENATORS. Right now, the SENATE is working through what is potentially the biggest fiscal decision of the past 100 years. If Nobama had decided to actually roll up his sleeves (and not those phoney sewn-up shirt sleeves he wears) and do some acutal WORK, you guys you be villifying McCain for not putting country first.
Of course, if Nobama DID go to work, he would simply vote PRESENT and wait for his photo op and free pen. 'Kuz, y'know, voting is weewy, weewy hawd.
Anyone who has seen Obama field questions knows this guy will TANK at the debates. He babbles on like Porky Pig when he isn't fed the questions ahead of time or, god forbid, his teleprompter goes on the fritz.
He takes ten minutes to answer a question because instead of giving you an honest opinion he tries to spin everything. He's a used car salesman at heart. Watch him on the SADDLEBACK forum. Pick a question. Any question. Nobama begins every answer with, "N..now...now...uh...uh..you see...whu...whu..." And then proceeds to blather on for fifteen minutes.
Maybe you should consder the fact that Nobama refused EVERY SINGLE invition to meet at ANY TIME, ANY PLACE for a town hall with his opponent. Know why? 'Kuz answewing qwestions is weewy, weewy hawd, too.
Brevity is the soul of wit.
At best, Nobama is a half wit.
I love this sound bite
My husband had me listen to it. It's a riot. (It's political that's why it's here).
http://www.rense.com/general83/hs_sal_in_harlem_100108.mp3
You sound like Obama. Have a problem with
nm
That last sentence just didn't EVEN sound right! sm
And I think the missing sheep brains is the main thing in this picture.
my apologies to you - I probably did sound rude - nm
x
Oh sweetheart, I feel sorry for you. You sound very
unhappy and bitter with your life, so much so that you must degrade others and their beliefs. What a sad way to go through life.
You almost sound proud of your ignorance.
You have not got the slightest idea what you are talking about. Not surprising, given the pervasive lies and distortion in US mainstream media. This is not a right of a left affliction, it's across the board. All you have to do is read coverage of the situation from outside the US to find out just how much propaganda has been shoved down your throat all you life on this issue.
Do you know anything at all about how the state Israel came into being? It's a new kid on the block, having been there a mere 60 years. Look at this map.
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/ww2timeline/palestine2.html
Do you see anything on it that says Israel anywhere? Do you know how long the Palestinians lived there before the creation of Israel? Have any idea what the British Mandate did? How about the UN Partition Plan? Ever hear of it? Know anything about occupation? Historical interference from Western powers?
Palestine (Gaza, West Bank, Golan) is an occupied territory. They are not allowed to control their own destiny. People who have been living in these kinds of conditions tend to rebel and reject their oppressors. That would be Israel, bankrolled by the US.
It would be a waste of time to try to discuss this issue with someone who has clearly stated they have no capacity to conceive of the human suffering which has been imposed by our support of Israel and could care less about wholesale murder.
I would, however, like to pass a few links along regarding your question about the tax dollars (truly laughable you seem to be unaware of this).
http://www.rense.com/general41/trill.htm
Study in 2003 estimates cost to US since 1949 of $3 trillion.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/November_2008/0811010.html
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Nifty little table of accountable direct aid. Please notice language under the table indicating the additional costs not included in the table.
That should keep you pretty busy. After all, I wouldn't want to overwhelm you with too much reality all at once.
Wait. Here's one more.
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1222181
Seems that some folks in the US DO care about the humanitarian crisis. December 30, US pledges $85 million in aid to Palestinian refugees in Gaza, West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria...a drop in the bucket.
You almost sound proud of your ignorance.
You have not got the slightest idea what you are talking about. Not surprising, given the pervasive lies and distortion in US mainstream media. This is not a right of a left affliction, it's across the board. All you have to do is read coverage of the situation from outside the US to find out just how much propaganda has been shoved down your throat all you life on this issue.
Do you know anything at all about how the state Israel came into being? It's a new kid on the block, having been there a mere 60 years. Look at this map.
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/ww2timeline/palestine2.html
Do you see anything on it that says Israel anywhere? Do you know how long the Palestinians lived there before the creation of Israel? Have any idea what the British Mandate did? How about the UN Partition Plan? Ever hear of it? Know anything about occupation? Historical interference from Western powers?
Palestine (Gaza, West Bank, Golan) is an occupied territory. They are not allowed to control their own destiny. People who have been living in these kinds of conditions tend to rebel and reject their oppressors. That would be Israel, bankrolled by the US.
It would be a waste of time to try to discuss this issue with someone who has clearly stated they have no capacity to conceive of the human suffering which has been imposed by our support of Israel and could care less about wholesale murder.
I would, however, like to pass a few links along regarding your question about the tax dollars (truly laughable you seem to be unaware of this).
http://www.rense.com/general41/trill.htm
Study in 2003 estimates cost to US since 1949 of $3 trillion.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/November_2008/0811010.html
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Nifty little table of accountable direct aid. Please notice language under the table indicating the additional costs not included in the table.
That should keep you pretty busy. After all, I wouldn't want to overwhelm you with too much reality all at once.
Wait. Here's one more.
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1222181
Seems that some folks in the US DO care about the humanitarian crisis. December 30, US pledges $85 million in aid to Palestinian refugees in Gaza, West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria...a drop in the bucket.
|
