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and happy and safe Thanksgiving to you also - nm

Posted By: Amanda on 2008-11-25
In Reply to: Thanksgiving...........sm - m

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Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone! sm
We have a lot to be thankful for.  I hope all of you have a blessed holiday tomorrow! 
Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to you also --  from another Democrat!
Yes, Happy Thanksgiving to all. (nm)
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A very happy Thanksgiving to you. :)
And here's hoping you get a respite from the 60-hour work week.
Happy Thanksgiving.

I know we often don't agree on this board and sometimes don't get along.


However, I hope each and every poster has a wonderful, happy, healthy Thanksgiving.


At this point in time, we have much to be concerned about, but we also have much to be thankful for.  I personally am thankful for the mere fact that I'm still here and breathing and will enjoy another Thanksgiving with my family.


I hope in the year ahead that we can learn to get along with each other a little more, that respect and politeness will trump contempt and anger.  If we can manage that, then I will have that as an additional thing to be grateful for next Thanksgiving, if I'm fortunate enough to still be here a year from now. 


Happy Thanksgiving GP! sm
I hope you and yours will be happy and blessed!
Happy Thanksgiving!! nm
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Happy Thanksgiving From A REPLICAN!!!!!!!!!
And I'm so thankful we have a REPUBLICAN president....pretty cool huh?
Just wishing happy Thanksgiving would have been great
and if the poster had just wished happy Thanksgiving that would have been great but he then continues to post that he is happy we have a republican president, on the liberal board.  That was a jab to a board where most of us are not happy with the incumbent president.  Also, the administrator has asked the conservative/republicans not to post on the liberal board.
Happy Thanksgiving right back atcha, Marmann
Hope you're feeling better.
Happy Holidays everyone & be safe.nm
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Yes, am happy to still be safe and free. Hope
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Thanksgiving...........sm

As I look back on the last few weeks that I have been posting on this board, it becomes even more apparent to me from the opinions expressed here that we live in a country of such diversity, politically, culturally, economically and religiously and probably more so than at any time in our short history.  While we may not agree at times and may even argue heatedly at times over certain issues, we still have the freedom to hold our own opinions and express them freely and for that I am truly thankful.  As we move into unchartered waters, as we do with every presidential election, I hope that our ability to be able to express our opinions will continue to remain intact and that we are able to come here and enjoy a good natured debate as doing so has forced me to  really examine my opinions and what they are based on and to learn to listen to the opinions of others and how their opinions are formulated. 

I love my country and I love the people who make up this great nation, even though I may not agree with everyone's opinions all of the time.  It is my prayer that America can go forth another 232 years as a great nation comprised of great people who, like me, love our country.  I pray that none of us, regardless of our personal opinions or political leanings, will ever take our freedoms for granted, for it is then that we are at our most vunerable and at risk of losing those freedoms that we all hold so dear. 

So it is with these thoughts that I sincerely wish each and every person reading and/or posting here a very happy and safe Thanksgiving. 


 


 


No thanks. -don't want to ruin my Thanksgiving
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thanksgiving turkey

Actually, it was really Barney Frank dressed like a turkey that GW pardoned...


glad you had a good Thanksgiving.
We had pizza. :oP
George Washington Thanksgiving Proclamation 1789

George Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation
(1789)

Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me "to recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:"

Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted' for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us.

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have show kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3rd day of October, A.D. 1789.


G. Washington

 

 

Less Safe
Bush and his group of neocons say we are more safe and secure due to his illegal war.  That is so not true.  We are less safe because of the Iraq war.  We have created a terrorist breeding ground and a reason for people of other countries to hate us even more.  I was shocked when the neocons linked up 9/11and Iraq.  There was no connection whatsoever, yet so many Americans believed the lies.  I can understand that a lot of Americans are not really into politics, gee, having to work two or three jobs, take care of a home and kids leaves little time..so we trust our leaders.  Well, in this situation we should not have trusted our leaders.  My motto always has been, **Question Authority**.
How exactly did he keep us safe?
What actual credible plot was derailed by him?
It is safe to say that his

future political career is in the dumpster.  At least he admitted it when he got caught instead of lying under oath like Clinton and at least his wife wasn't dying of cancer like Edwards wife supposedly was....but whatever.  Keep trashing pubs for mistakes that dems make all the time if it makes you feel better JTBB!


It is a shame that we have to hear about politicians doing this sort of thing and I do feel for his wife and kids.  He will have to live with the consequences of his actions.


Agree with you, PK, but safe is only
a state of mind...just as is FREEDOM.  We have no freedom anymore, face it!  It's gone!, gone to the people who HATE US!  Just dispicable. And the really sad truth, Bush didn't do this all by himself, he's TOO STUPID.  For some reason, the higher echilon wants to be rid of the middle class which doesn't make much sense either as the middle class foots all of the bills.  By the time we all figure this out, it will be WAY TOO LATE.  Pessimistic? You bet I am. But, I just keep plugging away from day to day, doing the best I can, but waiting for the shoe to drop.  At least we aren't in the dark, which is more than I can say about the other 25% of the American people.
I don't think it's safe too share too much on here. SM

I did it once and I was crucified for it.  Won't do it again.  Truthfully, and this is not meant to be mean, I don't think I would have much in common with most on this board at all. 


I don't feel particularly safe -
I am not a Bush basher - I actually voted for him and have never once said that I should have voted differently. And you will not find one single bad comment about him on this board that has come from me.

That being said, from things I have been reading that are going on in the administration right now, I am really worried about how much damage can be done and how long it will take to fix that damage.

I felt the same way when Hillary/Bill left the white house - they screwed up a lot in those last days and that is one reason why Hillary did not get my vote this time.


I feel like Bush has actually done a pretty good job over all with all the problems he had to face during his 8 years - never said otherwise...


Bush Kept us Safe?
You are sadly mistaken. We're lucky he didn't get us blown off the face of the earth. Read history, don't try to rewrite it.
Who was keeping us safe before
9/11? So tired of hearing this crap. This was the first time ever (not this present president on watch) that the US was attacked on its own land and yet you talk about since 9/11. Why not even before then?? I think the attitude of most on here sucks. All chicken littles, scared. booooooo. See, made you jump.
Praying for his safe return....nm

I sure hope you are right because I sure do not feel safe. sm
Have you heard this one?

The 19 little Arabs who hated our freedoms and got by NORAD.

NY Safe Demo State
I wouldn't put any stock into NY being a "safe" democratic state. A lot of people I know who were pro-democraft are now going to vote for McCain.  I live in Western NY
Agreed! Glad we have been safe.
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for new pres foremost, to keep us safe.
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Good for you. Everyone should feel safe. nm
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I feel safe and am grateful for that.
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Baloney...George W. did not keep us safe from anything!
He is leaving office with the United States in shambles.
I have heard and read about how he kept safe
Well, 9/11 happened while he WAS president, what about that or is that not considered. The absolute worst event on US soil by us being attacked. Give me a break!
I'm glad our country has been kept safe and
I am free to do what I want when I want. My life has not changed. Do I feel safer because of the polices put in place...you bet! I thank my lucky stars we have policies in place that keep us safe. That when a plan is happening to destroy the country they can get to it before it comes to fruition.

As for your calls being listened to....that happened many many years ago. I do believe it happened during the Regan years (I'll be honest and tell you I can't find anything on the internet as to when it actually started) but I know for a fact it was happening during the Clinton administration.
Wonder how many who worked at the WTC felt safe on 9/10/01?
I'd bet about 100%. Doesn't mean much, does it? In fact, the majority are often wrong when it comes to things like this.
Gosh, this site might not be safe since you have IP information!!!

how does it feel?


I don't think it is safe to ignore people like Chomsky. sm
I have never been a head in the sand kind of person.  Especially when Hugo Chavez holds him up (as well as his book) as a shining example when speaking to the UN.
To be safe from terrorists and nukes from Iran
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Bush kept us safe after 9-11. Economy was great
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The OP said that Cheney said Obama could not keep us safe and could he now say "I told you so"
To me, that sounds like they are laying blame at Obama's feet for the flu. If I misread, then I apologize, but that is the way it came to me.
So how did the Cheney comment fit in except to say that Obama was not keeping us safe from this flu?
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Thank you, President Bush, for your service and especially for keeping us safe at home. nm

Happy 4th to you too MT -
...and to everyone! I feel it an appropriate time to remember...I LOVE AMERICA...sappy but true:)Not even THEY can spoil that, ya know.

Happy comet watching! Here's a link for anyone interested in seeing the collision:

http://www.space.com/deepimpact/


http://www.space.com/deepimpact/
So happy here
Bunch of corrupt individuals..Frist is waiting in the wings.
Oh Happy Day






Sunday, Oct. 02, 2005
Power Outage
House leader Tom DeLay's indictment upends the Republicans' to-do list and their outlook for next year's elections. Can they recover in time?

The news that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay had been dreading for months was brought by an aide, who interrupted DeLay's weekly lunch with Dennis Hastert in the House Speaker's office. DeLay absorbed it, and then the man widely called the Hammer on Capitol Hill (though rarely to his face) did what he does best: he hit back. All right, DeLay replied. Let's go. Let's go fight. Less than three hours later, before a roomful of reporters, DeLay addressed a Texas grand jury's charge that he and two political associates conspired to funnel $155,000 in illegal corporate campaign contributions into Texas legislative races. He called it one of the weakest, most baseless indictments in American history and the prosecutor who brought the case a partisan fanatic. That night, anxious to show he's not a recluse, he introduced Rudy Giuliani at a Friends of Israel banquet. DeLay even made an uncharacteristic round of the cable shows, hinting darkly on cnn that he would soon produce very good evidence that his nemesis, Travis County district attorney Ronnie Earle, had engaged in a conspiracy of his own--with the Democratic leadership here in Washington.

Combativeness has seen Tom DeLay through near-death experiences before, but on the Hill late last week, it was hard to miss the signs that his foot soldiers and allies had begun positioning themselves in anticipation of his demise. G.O.P. rules require that DeLay, 58, majority leader since 2003, relinquish his post while he fights the conspiracy charge, and speculation is rife that even if he is acquitted his days as one of the most powerful men in the House could be over. You leave a job like this, there is no coming back, says a top Republican official who likes DeLay and thinks he will be cleared. Politics abhors a vacuum more than anything else, and it's going to move past him too quickly.

Almost immediately, it did. A plan engineered by DeLay and Hastert to install complaisant Rules Committee chairman David Dreier as temporary majority leader was nixed by conservatives who dislike Dreier's moderate positions on stem-cell research and gay marriage. Instead the brain trust installed ambitious whip Roy Blunt, who will share some of the majority leader's duties with Dreier. The setup is so shaky that some House Republicans are pressing for the election of a new leadership team as early as January.

Meanwhile, lobbying shops that had traded on the access to DeLay were desperately dialing House aides to forge new relationships. Those not tied to DeLay were calling the same staff members to gloat. There's millions of dollars on the table, said an aide who had heard from both camps. These guys are going to slaughter each other. What's left of the G.O.P. leadership, already beset by a raft of other political problems, was trying to figure out how to salvage the ambitious legislative agenda of more tax cuts, hurricane help and gas-price relief that they want to carry them to next year's midterm elections--a more difficult challenge with the sidelining of the man who had so determinedly pulled off many of their close victories.

DeLay may not have seen the worst of it yet. Sources tell TIME that while Earle was closing in on DeLay from Austin, Texas, a federal investigation into the spreading scandal around disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, accused with Michael Scanlon (a former press secretary of DeLay's) of bilking their Indian-tribe clients out of $66 million, has begun lapping at the edges of the former majority leader's operation. A former Abramoff associate who was questioned by the FBI in August says, They had a lot of e-mails, a lot of traffic between our office and DeLay's office. Many of those exchanges involved lavish travel by DeLay arranged by the lobbyist but requested, the e-mails suggest, by aides in DeLay's office. (House members are allowed to accept gifts under limited circumstances but not to solicit them.) Says the source: There was nothing I saw that hit DeLay personally, but there was a lot of questionable stuff that was going on with his staff. 'Tom wants this. Tom wants that.' Was it really him or just the staff that was being aggressive? DeLay's office wouldn't comment on the Justice Department investigation, and neither would the FBI.

Republicans had plenty of problems even before the latest blow to DeLay. Voters are angry about gas prices, the war in Iraq and the botched response to Hurricane Katrina. Polls show President George W. Bush at or near the lowest public-approval ratings of his presidency. On the other side of the Capitol, Senate majority leader Bill Frist faces an investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission into the circumstances surrounding his decision to sell all of his stock in the hospital chain founded by his family, Hospital Corporation of America, in June, just before the share price dropped following a bad earnings report.

So dispirited are Republicans that some worry about losing control of the House--a danger that once seemed remote. We're looking in the crystal ball. We're moving into an area where we don't know what will happen, says deputy whip Tom Cole, a conservative from Oklahoma. With a switch of only 15 seats required to end their majority, Cole is anxious that the party may have to contest as many as 100 tight races if the winds arraying against it turn into a national backlash like the one that ended the Democrats' 40-year reign in 1994. Having seen how the Democrats failed to galvanize their voters in that campaign, Republicans say the chief goal in rewriting their strategy for the fall will be to re-energize their base. The plan taking shape calls for a robust conservative agenda through next spring, including a tax-reform package. That move would allow Republicans to pivot back to issues like education tax credits that would appeal more to moderates as the elections approach.

As for DeLay, his struggles appear likely to consume him for many months. He has launched what amounts to a major political campaign to convince supporters that the indictment is flimsy and he is a victim of a political smear. DeLay pointed to Democrats' vow to use G.O.P. ethics as a campaign issue, and supporters noted criticism of Earle in Texas for speaking in May to a $100,000 fund raiser for a Democratic political action committee (PAC). But DeLay has produced no evidence Earle conspired with Democrats in Washington.

While it's true that Earle and DeLay have been locked in a complicated war of Texas-size egos for years, the charges against DeLay are fairly simple. During the 2002 elections, a committee DeLay founded to support conservative politicians--Texans for a Republican Majority, or TRMPAC--allegedly accepted $155,000 in corporate donations and then included that in a check for $190,000 to the Republican National Committee, which then routed a similar amount to seven Texas legislative candidates. DeLay's lawyers say the transactions were separate and that the PAC accepted money from both individuals and corporations. The contribution helped produce six wins that were crucial to DeLay's political ambitions in Washington because they resulted in a Republican majority in the state legislature, which redrew congressional district lines and helped add five more Republicans to the state's congressional delegation. If convicted, DeLay faces up to two years in prison and a maximum fine of $100,000.

DeLay has done his best to paint the D.A. as a Democratic loose cannon. But Earle, 63, points out that of the 15 public officials he has prosecuted, 12 have been fellow Democrats. Texas law makes it a felony for corporations and labor unions to contribute money to political campaigns, Earle tells TIME. My job is to prosecute felonies. I'm doing my job. The grand jury foreman, William Gibson, 76, insists that this was not one of those rubber-stamp deals. Ronnie Earle did not indict Mr. DeLay. Twelve people on that grand jury voted to indict.

If DeLay has cause for hope, it may be that Earle has been more successful convicting minor figures than major ones. The majority leader has put together a legal team headed by Dick DeGuerin, who handed Earle the most spectacular failure of his career: a 1994 misconduct case against former state treasurer Kay Bailey Hutchison that Earle was forced to drop on the first day of trial. Hutchison is now the state's senior Senator.

There are those who predict that DeLay will be able to balance mounting a defense with pulling strings behind the scenes in the House. But whereas he had been accustomed to just stepping downstairs to the majority leader's spacious suite of Capitol offices after a House vote, dusk last Thursday afternoon found DeLay outside on the Capitol Plaza, waiting at a traffic light to return to his office in the Cannon House Office Building across the street. Just like any other Congressman.


Happy day
I have been a vegetarian for more than 30 years and am also pro Native American.  I have not celebrated Thanksgiving for many years.  However, I do celebrate a day of getting together with family and friends and a day of appreciation..So, to all my liberal friends/co-posters..**Happy Day**..There are truly better days coming..
Happy 4th to Everyone!

I hope we never forget that brave American soldiers fought and died for our freedom to post on this very board!  Here's hoping that we all still have the same freedoms in the USA next year this time as we have today. 


My flag is hanging proudly.  I hope you all have a wonderful day.


Happy 4th to you and everyone!

She sure does not seem happy about it.sm
JMHO but to me it is hands off unless invited.
I'm happy s/m

To see that a couple of people will stand up with me.  This nation was founded on the principals of Christianity.  We kicked God out of our schools, courthouses and everywhere else a few thought He should go and look where we are now.  Kids killing each other in the schools, etc. etc. Now I hear they want to take "In God We trust" off of our money.  And my further opinion.........these radical evangelicals who think that anyone who says, "Lord, Lord" must be a Bible thumping Christian, have done more to turn people away from God than the other way around.   No wonder we're in such a mess. 


For anyone who wants to jump on this as "religion"....well don't.  I don't propose that anyone who doesn't want to turn to God be forced to do so but I do believe that it is high time that Christians.....or those who follow Christ (or try to)... stand up and be heard.  AND I believe when enough of us do that, God will lead us.  Again....this is my opinion and I'm not talking about "religion," I'm talking about those of us who have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savoir.  He gave us a choice to accept Him or reject Him and I don't believe he would want us to cram him down anyone's throat who does not want to be a believer.


I'm off my stump now.