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how cruel you are to this woman. Suppose you were pregnant

Posted By: () on 2009-06-03
In Reply to: You did it for your own convenience. - FessUp

with a baby doomed to die soon after delivery, how would you THEN decide?
It is always easy to judge from afar, but it turns differently when it hits home!



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Both sides should have a choice, on both sides, pregnant woman and doctor...nm
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I'm not cruel to anyone
Believing what God says doesn't make me cruel. ;-)
Some liberal dem women are = most cruel to their own sex ....sm
than any people I've ever known in my life.

Not all liberal women, mind you, just some.




In general kids can be very cruel.

How many fat kids in school were popular?  Not many, eh?  This type of behavior stems from home.  How many of us talk bad about other people in front of our children?  I'm not just talking about homosexual bashing either.  How many of us gossip about what so and so wore, etc.?  How many of us bash others when we don't think our kids are paying attention? 


How many times do Christians post on here and are bashed horribly for their beliefs and called names?  How many Christians post on here bashing homosexuals and calling them sick freaks?  This type of behavior comes in all shapes and sizes and comes from all sides....black vs white, gay vs straight, believer vs nonbeliever. 


You cannot take on particular subject like homosexuality and us it soley to teach tolerance of people different than you.  There are many other things that children are picked on for than just that one subject. 


Oh look at 4 eyes over there or how about that dork with the braces, etc.  Look at the kid not wearing designer clothes.  Look at the freak with the emo makeup on. 


See what I mean.....tolerance is such a broad thing to teach children that you can't just use homosexuality to teach tolerance and I think it is unfair to people who do not agree with homosexuality that their kids are being taught ACCEPTANCE and not just tolerance on that issue anyway. 


Like I said before....I keep my God out of school.....keep your homosexuality out as well. 


So you're okay with cruel and inhumane...(sm)
treatment so long as it's done for revenge.  Since you call yourself a christian, you might want to check out what the Bible has to say about that one.
Sounds like a petty, cruel god's rules
Actually this sounds like a human's idea of what a god would want.  So obsessed with rules and regulations......
I emailed the moderator and why are you being so cruel? unbelievable
Ever think you might hurt a person's feelings? Or you simply do not care?
Have you ever been pregnant?

Have you ever been pregnant and seen your baby on ultrasound?  Have you seen him or her breathe the amntiotic fluid?  Watched him or her suck their thumb?  Or felt hiccups?   How about kick and roll? 


Oh, no, that's right, it's just a bunch of tissue. 


UM BEFORE YOU KNOW YOUR PREGNANT MEANS...
before you've missed a period! you totally contradicted yourself. i never said at the instant of sex you're pregnant. I said the heart is beating before "MOST" women know they are pregnant, and you JUST VALIDATED MY POINT!!! even going as far as to say they are developing at week 4! (which is when women miss their periods) you do know how this works don't you?
She doesn't really look pregnant there!
xx
a Down baby and a pregnant

teenager?  Good golly, how many calamities will Mrs. Palin ignore in her own house.  I don't want somewhat like that as a heartbeat from running my country.


 


I know--I know--just pregnant and emotional.
nm
WC stopped when she was pregnant -
at least that is what I remembered hearing on TV.
Obama's mama was pregnant with him
when she was 17, so no big deal there, right?  Oh right, double-standard.  Just leave the politics at the issues, people, don't attack the family. 
Lets her daughter get pregnant ????
I don't know ANY mother who would get up one day and say, "Gee, I would love to LET my daughter get pregnant". What do you think she should do, handcuff herself to her daughter and follow her around all day and night? Give me a break!!! There are mothers who are home all day with their daughters and they get pregnant. Who you wanna blame now!!!!

Her daughter getting pregnant does not imply sexual abuse at all....I see two hormone driven teenagers. Lets not get so carried away that just because a teenage girl gets pregnant you jump on that stupid bandwagon of believing she was abuse. I feel pretty confident in saying she was probably a willing participant....now they both have to deal with the consequences just like others from the beginning of time......
there is no one forcing you to get pregnant when u dont want to be.
nm
More pregnant women should be informed of this.
When I had my son, we donated his cord blood and it was all done for free. When I had my daughter four years later (and at a different hospital), we were told that we could store the cord blood, but not donate, and of course, storing means paying (way too much), so we didn't do it then. I probably should have done more checking around to see where we could have donated.

That one, I'm all for - if they could use that to find a cure for or treat cancer, MD, or anything else, imagine how fabulous that would be!!!
Maybe Palin didn't know yet that her daughter was pregnant when
That is a possibility. The daughter might have tried to hide it until she started showing. I don't know the circumstances around Palin and don't pretend to know, but I knew of girls in high school with me who hid it from their parents well into their 5th or 6th month. Not until they started showing did they tell.
And the left would rather lamblast pregnant 17-year-olds...
in the name of sex education and abstinence than discuss the fact that a known communist is high-fiving their candidate in public.

Talk about political significance.

He put it out there, not it is up for debate, just like the 17-year-old pregnant girl. Only HE is running for President of the United States. SHE isn't.
Why do you suppose
that Hillary Clinton and John McCain dropped the birth certificate issue.  Why do you suppose the media dropped it?  I do not believe that those of you keeping this issue going on this forum are medical transcriptionists, thus you should  not be allowed to post to a MT forum unless you provide documentnation that you are qualified as a medical transcriptionist. 
I don't suppose...(sm)
you have a source for that claim?
I suppose the Congressional
Saturday, August 14, 2004

Study: Tax burden growing heavier for middle class

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- President Bush’s tax cuts since 2001 have shifted more of the tax burden from the nation’s rich to middle-class families, according to a study released Friday by the Congressional Budget Office.

The tax rate declined across all income levels -- but more so in the top brackets, the report said.

People in the top 20 percent of incomes, averaging $182,700 a year, saw their share of federal taxes decline from 65.3 percent of total payments in 2001 to 63.5 percent this year, according to the study by congressional budget analysts.

In contrast, middle-class taxpayers -- with incomes ranging from $51,500 to $75,600 -- bear a greater tax burden. Those making an average of $75,600 had the biggest jump in their share of taxes, from 18.5 percent of all payments in 2001 to 19.5 percent this year.

The study, requested by congressional Democrats in May, is expected to provide fodder for the presidential campaign over the fairness of more than $1 trillion in tax cuts Bush has pushed through Congress since taking office.

“George W. Bush keeps trying to mislead Americans into thinking we’re turning the corner, but truth is that he is turning his back on middle-class families,” Kerry spokesman Phil Singer said. “The Bush policies are exacerbating the squeeze that working families have been feeling for the last four years.”

Bush-Cheney campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said, “Because of President Bush’s policies every American pays less in taxes today than they did before he became president...John Kerry has promised to raise taxes during the campaign. That is the clear choice Americans will have in the fall elections.”

The study found that the effective tax rate for the top 1 percent of taxpayers dropped from 33 percent in 2001 to 26.7 percent this year, a decline of 19 percent. The middle 20 percent of taxpayers saw a decline of 4 percent.

The study is based on figures in 2001 and assumes no changes in wealth distribution from increases in income, dividends or capital gains.

On the Net:

Congressional Budget Office: www.cbo.gov


I suppose my question is. sm
Why do we pick and choose who we help and which cause is noble?  We ignored Rwanda, many  many more people dead than in Darfur and in a much shorter time. Many more hundreds of thousands maimed.  Not a peep out of UN or US.  Darfur has become a Hollywood cause as well.  Where was Hollywood during Rwanda?  I don't get it.
I suppose you'd rather we keep punishing ourselves?

Punishing Americans with higher and higher healthcare costs because we give it free to indigent illegals, hospitals and ERs are forced to take them, then write them off and raise their prices to us, because we don't qualify under our own social programs!  We should deprive ourselves and give to them because we care more about their "poor little baby" than our own?  Charity should begin at home, and until it does, I don't give a hoot in Hades about some illegal's maternity problems!  My conscience is clear about whatever happens to those babies because I didn't get knocked up with them!  Indigent irresponsible women who pop out babies like Pez are the real punishers of babies - I'm all about FREE birth control, how about you?  I wanna know why YOU care about her babies at the expense of American babies and senior citizens who are forced to choose between food and medication each month - how's your conscience about that?


spoken by someone who KNOWS, I suppose....
so sorry I am not up on methods of drug delivery. Sorry. It was cocaine my mistake. He snorted cocaine. He called it "blow" in his book. So I stand corrected...Obama snorted COCAINE, not CRACK. Make you feel better????
I suppose it depends on who says it...sm
If she said it referring to herself....who cares.

If someone says it about Sarah Palin.....who cares, it will bounce off, as she is neither of those words.


What about when Obama talked about all the small town bitter people holding on to their guns and religion, in his San Francisco speech?

Was that bad? I think it was, and he disenfranchised a whole group of voters, to this day, who would not consider voting for him....

That is perhaps, the phrase that deRothchild was comparing to...not sure, but perhaps...



Sooooo.....to answer your question? which word is worse? Well, both of them are, and there's been plenty of name calling lately. It's getting tiresome, really.


Petty, spiteful, little name calling, which has run entirely too rampant lately in the media, not to mention on this board from time to time.


Might just be very very tired, I suppose.

Beyond this board, what do you suppose
E-C-O-N-O-M-Y. How does it feel to be constantly running away from your own candidate's inept, vacuous dirth of effective policy initiatives while people are losing their jobs, their homes and their life savings? Please explain to me just how all this Obama trashing is addressing the problem you have with a cowardly candidate who by his own admission does not understand econmics and will stoop lower than the stock market plunge to be elected? A better example of "country last" could not be found. If this is any indication of how a McCain administration behaves in a crisis, we can all look forward to a landslide for Democrats across the board. T-minus 25 and counting.
I suppose you are anti-gun as well.
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Seriously. Why do you suppose women
The onus of birth control is not gender specific. My own son learned this lesson when he was 9 years old when his only cousin was diagnosed with HIV. He takes precautions and asks the right questions. He does not have sex with women who are not willing to show him the pill or discuss openly with him how they would respond to an unwanted pregnancy...and he makes his own views plainly known in no uncertain terms...that he does not feel he is ready for the responsibilities of fatherhood and that he ALSO has the right to make this decision without moral persecution.

Most women share the news of a pregnancy with the father in the hopes that he will take on the responsibilities of fatherhood. The ones who do not more than likely already know what the answer will be. Unwanted pregnancies have a way isolating the mother, blaming her for having gotten pregnant in the first place in much the same way you have inferred in your parting shot (as though the father has suddenly become canceled out of the equation) and giving all sorts of folks license to condemn and weigh in on the decision. In the event that support is forthcoming, most women WILL have the child more often than not.
If that wre the case, why do you suppose that nobody
The Black Panthers remind me of just how far things had to go and how hard they had to fight before black people in this country were given their civil rights. The Panthers are a part of that history and have as much right as anybody to be there. I would not feel the least bit intimidated by their presence and, in fact, would be grateful that we have come as far as we have since those day. Intimidation is in the eyes of the beholder. Get over yourself.
And I suppose you would rather we continue...(sm)
to run that torture chamber in Guantanamo.  Yeah, that would be the one where they can hold supposed SUSPECTS for how long without trial?  Maybe you should rent the documentary "Taxi to the Dark Side." 
I suppose Canada
At least they speak English and I've been there numerous times.

My adult son would probably say Poland as he's been there and it's a nice, friendly, beautiful country with a low cost of living. I might be persuaded to try Poland, but I'd have a hard time learning Polish!

Do you suppose it could be regional?

When Clinton was in, my brother had a construction business and was going gangbusters. I did a drive down the whole California coastline, a trip to Vegas, New Orleans, Manhattan, Aruba, Florida....that's all I can think of....I was a single mom of 2 teenagers, bought a home, eventually bought a newer car and worked 4 days a week as an MT at a hospital then promoted to supervisor (made less money in that position, go figure)


In comes Bush - got remarried, moved to another city, kids are gone, husband professional, I was a supervisor (making $90,000 year between the 2 of us) and we could afford to go out to eat once in awhile. Our house is tiny, we are down to one car, husband is laid off and my health is in the toilet (stress will kill you). I was doing much better before the Bush years and my brother's construction company went belly up shortly after Bush was "elected" and he's been scrambling for work ever since. It's like you and I traded places........


Well, i suppose you told me...
consider me properly chastised.
You suppose incorrectly
Although I'm curious if there is an option for reporting a post because someone recognized you from previous posts.

I didn't take the time to report your posts; your lack of comprehension should continue to shine on the boards.
I guess you can't think for yourself. I suppose the kids that just
got arrested for setting churches on fire were *indoctrinated* even though 2 of them are from a Methodist college? I guess it goes you show YOU fear *indoctriation* because you can't think for yourself.
I suppose this didn't happen
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/05182006/news/103329.htm

5-19-2006

Phone jam gets Tobin jail time

By Anne Saunders
Associated Press

CONCORD - Former Republican National Committee official James Tobin was sentenced to 10 months in prison Wednesday for his role in an Election Day phone-jamming plot against New Hampshire Democrats.

Tobin, of Bangor, Maine, was found guilty in December on two felony telephone harassment charges. He also was fined $10,000, followed by two years probation. Prosecutors had asked for a two-year prison sentence.

Tobin, 45, was convicted of helping a top state GOP official find someone to jam Democratic get-out-the-vote lines on Election Day 2002. Republican John Sununu defeated then-Gov. Jeanne Shaheen for the U.S. Senate that day in what had been considered a cliffhanger.

Tobin was a regional official of the RNC and of the GOP committee focused on winning U.S. Senate races. He later became New England chairman of President Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign, but stepped down when Democrats accused him of playing a role in the jamming.

U.S. District Judge Steven McAuliffe said Wednesday he was impressed by character witnesses who testified on Tobin’s behalf, but wished Tobin had a better sense of how serious this was.

Tobin apologized to the court, the community and his family, saying he wished he hadn’t gotten involved or acted to stop it.

I have tried to live my life honestly and with integrity, he said.

Bail pending his appeal was denied; Tobin is scheduled to report to prison on June 23.
Why do you suppose he was asked repeatedly
Why do you suppose he was not able to give any? Did you not notice that his facts were not straight (as in false claims) about a governor being a commmander in chief?

I am curious. Why does JM get a pass when he refuses interviews but when Obama does it he is the devil incarnate? Can you say hypocrisy?
Ignorance like this has its place, I suppose.
Canadians are smart enough to figure out that your voice is coming from he far right fringe and is in no way representative of post-Bush America.
Uh, and I suppose those drugs Obama
to him? Does this make our president a criminal? Did he go through rehab and clean up his act? Did he associate himself with clean, wholesome friends, companions and coworkers? Be careful who you call a liar and a hypocrite.
I suppose you think Obama IS qualified?
nm
I have a question: Suppose there would be no religions, would
people and the world be better, worse or same?
I suppose they should cover the mirrors
and rend their clothes in grief instead? They are busting their butts to get things done. I think a little laughter, joy and goodwill is necessary as well as healthy. But, I suspect you would neither understand nor APPROVE of anything you deem "frivolous." The Dow has been up for 4 days running, at least 3 major banks are seeing profits and are stating they no longer require any bailout money.........Bringing in Congress and various insiders for a weekly get-together is a good way to inspire and promote goodwill.....but I guess the WH is something to look at - not live in.
What hate group do you suppose you
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I suppose that if you did not read the whole post...
you might have found it unclear. I should have written that I am more concerned with lying, if it turns out that he is lying--but further down, I wrote, "However, I am really not sure what religion he is." Again, why don't you bash someone who is disagreeing with you--or is it just fun for you to be contrary?
your comment is so low-life, I suppose that's what you are...sm
Do you think that only republicans can insult democrats?

I never start with mean talk, I only defend myself when slandered.


yeah but we aren't suppose to reply! nm

Unlike Huffington Post I suppose...
LOL.
I got it...your way or the highway, (sm which I don't suppose I care if you read or not)
You kept saying affordable health care. Tax refunds for premiums paid is more affordable. You could have had that and had that right now if the Dems would have compromised. They did not. I have no problem with SCHIP as it was. It would still be rocking along fine had the Dems not killed it with their "my way or the highway" attitude. Okay..you don't mind if your taxes go up to give middle class families a break...even if it includes adding more illegals to the program. I do mind if my taxes go to that. You don't mind that people who are paying premiums now and managing to do so will get off private insurance and on a program if that bill had passed. I have a problem with that. Why not give them the tax refund that Bush wanted to for paying those premiums instead of putting them on a program? You still get what you say you want...insured kids. What this all seems to boil down to is that you, and I guess other middle class families who are paying insurance premiums now but think they are too high think the government should pay them for you. I just don't happen to think that is the answer.

Thanks for the debate, thought. I learned a tremendous amount.
The point....which you missed....in bliss I suppose....
was the comment in disproportionate numbers. There is nothing to support that contention. Obviously there is a problem with pedophilia among priests...but not in any more disproportionate numbers than in the rest of the population. Teachers, coaches, daycare workers and owners..next door neighbors and relatives. THAT was the point.