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Posted By: Kendra on 2008-12-21
In Reply to: It sounds like you've found an - gourdpainter

like I said, the cpl pay is low comparatively, but I do alright. By the way, I certainly didn't mean to offend you!


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Wrong on both accounts.
Perhaps you weren't paying attention.

McCain did stay and shake hands with the audience members. He even introduced his wife around and posed for pictures, just like Obama did. So get over it.

As for, "began his answer with, 'I bet you never heard of Fannie Mac or Freddie Mac before...'" Well, you're just flat out wrong.

You could have checked your facts, but if you're an Obama support I'm sure you're not used to doing that, so let me enlighten you.

Here was McCain's response to the question: (quoted from the official transcript)

Well, thank you, Oliver. And that's an excellent question because, as you just described it, "bailout" when I believe that it's "rescue." Because -- because of the greed and excess in Washington and Wall Street, Main Street was paying a very heavy price, and we know that. I left my campaign and suspended it to go back to Washington to make sure that there were additional protections for the taxpayer in the form of good oversight and the form of taxpayers being the first to be paid back when our economy recovers, and it will recover, and a number of other measures.

But you know, one of the real catalysts, really the match that lit this fire was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I'll bet you, you may never even have heard of them before this crisis. But you know, they're the ones that with the encouragement of Senator Obama and his cronies and his friends, in Washington, that went out and made all these risky loans, gave them to people that could never afford to pay back. And you know, there were some of us that stood up two years ago and said, we've got to enact legislation to fix this. We've got to stop this greed and excess. Meanwhile the Democrats in the Senate and some and some members of Congress defended what, what Fannie and Freddie were doing. They, they resisted any change. Meanwhile they were getting all kinds of money in campaign contributions. Senator Obama was the second highest recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac money in history, in history. So this rescue package means that we will stabilize markets. We will buy -- we will shore up these institutions, but it's not enough. That's why we're going to have to go out into the housing market. And we're going to have to buy up these bad loans. And we're going to have to stabilize house, home values.

And that way Americans can -- like Allen -- can realize the American dream and stay in their home. But Fannie and Freddie were the catalysts, the match that started this forest fire. There were some of us -- there were some of us that stood up against us; there was others who took a hike.

And our bank accounts are

in such wonderful shape today, right?


We now live in a fascist society where the Bush government is buying the banks.


Socialism would be a giant step forward.


75% accounts for the former McC supports
to realize what "country first" means in the face of an election defeat. Think about it. BTW, the 6.8% was injected into the mix for the sake of accuracy.
The surplus also followed him out eh? We know because it's now in the bank accounts of the rich.
A lot of people made a lot of money during the Clinton years - that's real money, honey, and they're still rich, accounting for our current revenues. Without the Clinton boom years your president's buds (and your president himself, let us remind you) wouldn't have gotten their 100,000 tax break checks. Sure, the boom couldn't hold, but the point is that the favorable conditions created by a sounder Democratic fiscal policy allowed that boom to come about.

Now all we have is empty coffers, slashed public spending, and China owns us. Big improvement huh? Oops, but people like Frist are still getting over big time on their big time stock trades - all's clear in the upper 1% But since you likely aren't in it, it's hard to see what you find so appealing about being a credit slave one paycheck away from poverty. Is that working out good for you?
Any word about money market accounts?

Battle over UBS secret accounts to take months

 


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/UBS_SECRETS?SITE=VACUL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


Government prying into people's bank accounts nothing new.

And they're not just snooping on terrorists, as they claim.


http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RAISEALARM-02-28-06


Pay too much and you could raise the alarm


By BOB KERR
The Providence Journal
28-FEB-06



PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Walter Soehnge is a retired Texas schoolteacher who traveled north with his wife, Deana, saw summer change to fall in Rhode Island and decided this was a place to stay for a while.

So the Soehnges live in Scituate now and Walter sometimes has breakfast at the Gentleman Farmer in Scituate Village, where he has passed the test and become a regular despite an accent that is definitely not local.

And it was there, at his usual table last week, that he told me that he was madder than a panther with kerosene on his tail.

He says things like that. Texas does leave its mark on a man.

What got him so upset might seem trivial to some people who have learned to accept small infringements on their freedom as just part of the way things are in this age of terror-fed paranoia. It's that everything changed after 9/11 thing.

But not Walter.

We're a product of the '60s, he said. We believe government should be way away from us in that regard.

He was referring to the recent decision by him and his wife to be responsible, to do the kind of thing that just about anyone would say makes good, solid financial sense.

They paid down some debt. The balance on their JCPenney Platinum MasterCard had gotten to an unhealthy level. So they sent in a large payment, a check for $6,522.

And an alarm went off. A red flag went up. The Soehnges' behavior was found questionable.

And all they did was pay down their debt. They didn't call a suspected terrorist on their cell phone. They didn't try to sneak a machine gun through customs.

They just paid a hefty chunk of their credit card balance. And they learned how frighteningly wide the net of suspicion has been cast.

After sending in the check, they checked online to see if their account had been duly credited. They learned that the check had arrived, but the amount available for credit on their account hadn't changed.

So Deana Soehnge called the credit-card company. Then Walter called.

When you mess with my money, I want to know why, he said.

They both learned the same astounding piece of information about the little things that can set the threat sensors to beeping and blinking.

They were told, as they moved up the managerial ladder at the call center, that the amount they had sent in was much larger than their normal monthly payment. And if the increase hits a certain percentage higher than that normal payment, Homeland Security has to be notified. And the money doesn't move until the threat alert is lifted.

Walter called television stations, the American Civil Liberties Union and me. And he went on the Internet to see what he could learn. He learned about changes in something called the Bank Privacy Act.

The more I'm on, the scarier it gets, he said. It's scary how easily someone in Homeland Security can get permission to spy.

Eventually, his and his wife's money was freed up. The Soehnges were apparently found not to be promoting global terrorism under the guise of paying a credit-card bill. They never did learn how a large credit card payment can pose a security threat.

But the experience has been a reminder that a small piece of privacy has been surrendered. Walter Soehnge, who says he holds solid, middle-of-the-road American beliefs, worries about rights being lost.

If it can happen to me, it can happen to others, he said.


(Bob Kerr is a columnist for The Providence Journal. E-mail bkerr@projo.com.)



(Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service, www.shns.com.)


Dems Target Private Retirement Accounts
More control coming?  Thanks, but no thanks.  I have a brain and like to think for myself.  See link below.
Who to pick?

I truly do not like either McCain or Obama.  I don't want to NOT vote.  I don't want to stay in the same course we are in.....which counts McCain out.  But I don't want to vote for change just for the sake of change.  If it were a change I could believe in and have faith....okay....but I don't and so that counts Obama out.  So now what?


VP pick
I don't know anything about her really, but I was just telling my husband last night that the only way McCain is going to be able to keep this race competitive at all would be to pick a pro-life woman. I didn't think he would really and my husband couldn't think of any (and he's a repub). As a Democrat I of course would have loved it if McCain would have picked Lieberman to demoralize the base or Huckabee to demoralize the independents, but ah well. It's a smart pick, I have to say.
I'd pick you to mod if I had the say
just to prove that it wouldn't matter who was moderating to me.  I'm confident in my party, how 'bout you?
Take your pick from above.........
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where is my pick my up?
I pay and pay and I never get any pick me up. Since you would much rather pay for it, go ahead, pay for it. Don't ask me to pay, though, because I would much rather not. I think I paid enuff all ready.
Don't we pick and choose

Don't we pick which Bible adages we follow?  The Bible also says turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor as thyself, do unto others....yet many Christians in various venues (including these boards) chide others for being advocates of peace, tolerance and love for all citizens of the world. 


The Bible has contradictions, it was written by men, after all and seems incredibly subject to interpretation.


He should pick Hillary
They are two peas in a pod. It was evidenced by his speech tonight he thinks she such a great person. I could just feel the love he has for her. Seriously...they voted alike on almost everything. I think his speach tonight was more of him trying to pull her votes away from Barack to vote for him.
that should be "who" is your pick... duh (nm)
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Well said. If we could only pick and choose who to help..
someone as yourself would be on top of my list!
You know, at this point he could pick

Jesus Christ to be in his cabinet and you people would find some something to b**ch about that, too.  Good grief!!


You can't pick and choose WHEN you
want majority rule to count. The people have spoken, they don't want it, try again next time.
He wasn't my first pick....(sm)

However, we are now at a point where time is the word of the day.  Here's my problem with the situation.  If he's so terrible, why are they voting him in?  That applies to dems and pubs, as both sides have expressed concern.  So, we know they're going to vote him in, so what's the point in all the delays?  I think at this point it's just political grandstanding by the pubs.  They did the same thing with Hillary.  The guy that held that one up actually voted for her, and said he was going to vote for her, but still delayed the process. 


For that matter, check out the attorney general position.  What's the problem with Holder?  On this one the pubs want to *question* him more about torture.  Exactly what do the pubs want to hear?  Maybe *torture is wrong, but we won't prosecute?*  More pollitical grandstanding.


May we pick which finger??
x
I'll pick one...LOL...(sm)

You said:  "What about the voters of CA voting against gay marriage and now it's supposedly going to the Supreme Court? That's ridiculous. Since when is the Supreme Court allowed to overturn the voter's wishes? "


My question to you would be when was the last time it was okay for individual rights to be taken away with a popular vote?  Individual rights are guaranteed by the constitution (which discourages discrimination), not subject to the vote of the day.  That is why it needs to go to the supreme court.  Do you think it would be okay to all of the sudden pop up and have a vote in 2009 on whether or not women can vote when we already have that right?  On top of that, the state supreme court has now ruled that prop 8 stands, so at this point LGBTs cannot get married.  However, (and here comes the double standard), LGBTs who are already married can stay married?  What kind of reasoning is that?  As far as I'm concerned, this is a textbook case of discrimination.


a pick-me-up for Congress???
you're kidding right?? Pick them up from what? all the hard work they have been doing finding new ways to spend our money??
It isn't fair to pick out a few bad apples...
...and characterize a whole group based on them. And you're also right about Conservatives (loosely put) not always agreeing with one another, especially these days. Seems dissent among the ranks is breaking wide open.

But regardless of degree of badness of the apples in general - any group as a whole who supports Bush remains suspect as a whole because there is simply no reason left for an intelligent person to do so. Most who still do, do so because they aren't aware of the facts and aren't very good judges of character. Just my opinion, but I stand by it, and see more proof of it every day.
No, but I do hear him saying "don't pick
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Okay Republicans, you is YOUR pick for McCain VP?
I'm not looking to start either a we-love-McCain or we-hate-McCain thread (same for Obama), just curious to hear from the Republicans here who they would like to see McCain pick.  It sounds like he may announce Friday.
Dems are also ecstatic over this pick.
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No. It was sexist of him to pick a token fm
nm
anyone else insulted over the Palin pick?
As an American woman I am insulted over the cynical pick of Sarah Palin as the Republican VP. She has a vaginia and everything I believe is supposed to suddenly escape my female pee sized brain?! I am suppose to want to vote Republican because they pick a woman? This proves the Republicans are insane.



Sarah Palin is against abortion and does not believe in birth control.


Sarah does not believe in evolution and thinks all schools should teach creationism.


She doesn't have an opinion on the Iraq war.


She is a pro gun person.


She doesn't believe in global warming.


She oppose gay marriage.


She is against putting polar bears on the endangered species list.


She is an advocate strongly for drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.


Her husband works for BP (British Petroleum) and she pushed for another pipeline to be built in Alaska.


At the age of 45, since she does not believe in birth control, had another baby and he has down syndrome. This seems to me to be pretty poor judgement on her part.


She says she has family values, she is a Governor and her husband works on the North Shore full time, who raises the Palin kids?
Palin has her sisters ex husband fired from the Alaska State Patrol.

Can anyone say abuse of power?
Palin was a Mayor of a 9,000 person town and has been Governor for only 20 months.


She voted for pat Buchanan over George Bush in 2000. If you think Bush is bad Buchanan is even worse.


She stated on 7/30/2008 she does not know what the VP does every day.


Gos is named her kids Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.


The major newspapers in Alaska do not think she should be the VP pick.


Her mother-in-law said she is voting for Obama.



So America, is this this a responsible pick from a 72 year old man who has had repeated bouts of cancer? Do you want Palin running our country? Does being a lucky beauty queen now give people the credentials to be the VP?
Look....if liberals can pick and choose...
statements of what someone said once and once they say now...so can conservatives. You can't have it both ways.
Yep, as long as none of us pick up a phone or
xx
Whether you agree or disagree with this pick...

Maybe we should all check the facts before judging this guy.  Actions speak much louder than words.  Below are 2 sites, The first is a list of bills he sponsored.  The other is his voting record. 


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400120&tab=bills


http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=33530


Kissinger seems to think she's a good pick (sm)
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-11-16-voa17.cfm
Are we going to pick on his toileting habits next?
How petty.
Take your pick--World Net Daily or
Sad, just sad.
Excuse me but what do you mean by pick and choose?
Obama has NO right to 'pick and choose.' He cannot interfere in Iran's sovereignty and internal affairs only with the justification that he supports and defends democracy. I wished he could! But he cannot, this would have been a grave mistake, a bigger mistake than Iraq.

The Iranian government's reaction would have been to tell Obama 'Mind your own business.'
You would pick a fight with anyone, wouldnt you?
nm
That's not necessarily true. You've been able to pick up the slack sm
for them very nicely if I may say so myself.
This does not cost anything. Just pick a card and a message...sm
Or even type your own message and Xerox handles the mailing. This is neat.
Pick McCain's VP running mate!

MSNBC has a "Veepstakes" where you get to make picks on who McCain will pick for VP, and that's kind of fun.  I have no idea who he will pick, but here are some names that are bounced around:


Bobby Jindal (I think too young at 36, but religious right seems to like him, which is more than I can say for McCain, so maybe that would help him there).


Charlie Crist (McCain totally owes him for helping him boost to front runner affter Florida, but he's kind of liberal for base's tastes).


Mitt Romney (the favorite in the "Veepstakes."  Would help McCain in some places like Michigan, could hurt in deep south).


Mike Huckabee (may help in the south, but I can't see any other benefit).


so you pick one miniscule part of the bible
not sure why you people are still gullible enough to believe in that ancient book anyway.
Who is Palin's pick for running mate again?

Be careful what you wish for -


there are so many scenarios how this could play out.  I think republicans (the men) need to watch their backs with this person.  they are infatuated right now but this person after all is a self-described pitbull (with lipstick).


I heard someone call this play by the republicans a 'hail mary' like in football, but no matter which party you side with, it was very worrisome watching that little baby be passed around like a football throughout the convention last night...it almost made me sick.


All this proves is that liberals pick and choose...
freedom of religion? Like ANY of you ascribe to that? Lemme seee----go back to your church. Ummm...bible-thumpin gun moll...I would have to search, but you get my drift. Yes, i know what choice is. Me, and some like me, also believe the infant should have a choice, but you certainly jumped right in and circumvented that one didn't you?
No big surprise here....you pick and choose the facts you want...sm
to read and hear. I'm tired of trying to educate you.



Meanwhile, Barry Obama can do no wrong, and the facts are spun in the media to his direction, making him look like the poster boy for "poor me" they're trying to "smear me" ....

No matter that it is all TRUE!!!!!


Well, boo hoo.

Barry worked for ACORN, was and is, friends with terrorists and racists and liberal democratic former CEOs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, people who hate this country and all it stands for are his so called "friends" that he has thrown under the bus.


Watch, if he wins, they'll all pop out of the woodwork again.


That man lies and rewrites his life story, and you all believe him.


That old saying that goes: Show me a person's friends and those he surrounds himself with, and it will show you who he is.


Well, I certainly don't like and trust what and who Barry Obama.



Gee, how come there is NO ONE from Barry's former or current life, that are friends that can stand up for his character?




The street is always one-way for the democrats, the biggest spin doctors around.



I'll take SP over O any day.


Well why doesn't he put his money where his mouth is. Pick a...
neighborhood, any neighborhood. With the next check he gets for being a senator (and yeah, we are still paying him, and he hasn't darked the doors of the senate maybe 2-3 times since he starting running for Prez...), he should cash it, then go divvy it up with all the folks in the neighborhood. Just share that wealth, Barack. Lead by example.
You can't spell or pick a winner; it's torture, not tortue
Keep chomping those sour grapes.
Notice how I did't hand-pick text to prove a point.
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You're still eating aren't you? Lets pick this back
Or maybe you know enoug folks that will be getting the free handouts and can live off of them, like I see going on around my town already.
Stop watching TV or googling, and please pick up a REAL history text without bias, it is not a parti
even I bet George Bush is looking for authors to do so....perhaps he will get out his crayons and try it himself, after he masters "See spot run. See VP Cheney run with his Halliburton $$$$$$$."
Yep, but it was straight time. No time and a half
DHL is GERMAN OWNED.  And, company was located on Snotsdale, I mean Scottsdale, AZ which means.  Labor laws in Arizona suck.  Right to work state.  Basically a company can do whatever they want to do with you and if you do not like it, then quit and find another job.
Poor, poor MT. She can't pick a fight with anyone on her own board tonight and must come here to