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you have the option of choosing it too -

Posted By: Amanda on 2008-10-12
In Reply to: Lemme get this straight... - equineluvr

anybody can choose it - not just people who do not have access to insurance.


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This is not an option anymore
I've been listening to the news people talking and this is not an option anymore. Barack is being polite about this, but I see no way for them to run together. Her time has passed. He is now looking at other very qualified people to be VP. One is a woman and one is even a republican. A lot of people think that it will be so easy to win over republicans this fall, but if McCain is running against Hillary he for sure will win as there is too much negativity about Hillary. I cannot stand McCain, but I for one would vote for him over Hillary. First I would change my party to independent, and then I would vote for McCain. People are saying there are three parties running here. The republicans, the democrats and the Clintons. The Clintons have put themselves into their own party. Although a vote for Clinton and a vote for McCain are virtually the same thing. She used to be a republican before she switched to democrat years ago, and her voting record is quite conservative. I for one am glad that Obama is looking at other people for VP slot and his list is pretty impressive. The candidates all seem to be very good choices and I hear many people really respect these people. There are even a lot of republicans who do not want McCain in there, however, they want Hillary even less. I believe that if Obama is the nominee he will win as a lot of republicans will back him, but if Hillary is in there McCain will win as she and Bill have so much bad history attached to them. The only people who are now pushing for an Obama/Hillary ticket are the Hillary supporters as they are trying anything and everything to get her in there, but none of the talk of them running together is coming from Obama's side. Makes you kind of think about that.
On another note it seems as if every state she wins she tries to convince people that if you don't win that state you will not win in November. Funny how these states never include the ones she lost in. You don't hear her saying that about Iowa or Minnesota. We sit and laugh and say nice try Hillary. Then we listen to the news and they say the same thing.
Thank God Hillary is not an option
Don't you realize she is the Co-chair of the Senate India Caucus. She is one of the people pushing for our jobs to go overseas. She will not protect our jobs. She was also in favor of NAFTA. Sorry, I want my job. So Thank God she is not one of the choices. With that said...I am protesting both McCain and Obama - I am not voting. Besides doesn't anyone understand whoever is chosen as President will not be the people's choice. Presidents are placed into office, not elected.
Change is our only option
I'm not debating that. What I'm debating is the idea that passing the same kind of garbage through for the taxpayers to pay for isn't change. And I don't blame Obama for that - I blame the loons in Congress for that, especially when I hear them say things like "The American people don't care."

I know there's a channel for everyone's taste and I know it's not news either - they're all opinion shows.

I'm not trying to garner support for anything or promoting any kind of fear. I see too many people just get so nasty on this board to people who are only giving their opinion. If you don't agree with me, that's fine - tell me why you don't agree instead of personally attacking me. Maybe you know something I don't that would change my mind on something - I can guarantee you won't change my mind with nasty comments.

Maybe you didn't go to Harvard (I didn't either), but that doesn't mean that we're not intelligent people and can't debate things that are important in this world. Don't believe everything you hear or that you read - that's why debate is a good thing and I'd honestly like to hear your thoughts on why this stimulus package is such a great idea - without the suicide pact, thank you =)
Correct. You have the homeschool option.
Otherwise, leave public SECULAR schools alone. Teach your children what you wish to teach them. If they don't learn from you better than from society at large, you're not doing your job. Besides, right now it's all the rest of us who are being slammed by religious absurdities forcing themselves into the classroom - book bannings, stupid ineffective (and often based on lies) sex education, stupid activist school board members who have no respect for learning and only want to teach Christian fundamentalist ideology - forget it! America's schools were fully adequate until this religious nonsense began to grow like a cancer, disrupting discussion and making everyone fearful of crossing their eyes and always looking over their shoulders for the pious thought police.
It's a terrible situation that is exacerbated further by the religious nannies aligning themselves with the current government so that no student is free to question, or speak their mind, or explore the way other societies do things. A pox on your quest for freedom - if the only thing that satisfies you is stealing freedom from everyone else, what good are you? What kind of religion is that which puts a yoke of oppression on young people, twists their minds and emphasizes the evil all around them? It's sick.

I don't care what you say, schools were better when people could read what they wanted, when discussion could be heard, when no one group of parents could demand changes for everyone, when respect for others and appreciation for diversity was taught - as well as practical and truthful sex ed. We didn't take God out of the schools - we took civic responsibility out. We took tolerance out. We took the feeling of being one important part of a global community out. All that horrible liberal stuff you know, that elevated America to the highest standards and made us the envy of the world for so many decades. That's what you complain about being stuffed down your throat? Well maybe you should be glad that in America, you still have the choice to opt out if you hate all that secular stuff. Too bad you're so fixed on making certain that NOBODY ELSE has that freedom anymore once you get done with them.

No one would listen and he is not an option anymore sm
I started preparing and investing in sound money 2 years ago because of him. My silver may end up being worth $200 an ounce and all the Federal Reserve Notes will be worth the same as Monopoly money. We all knew this was coming and it is going to get worse. Note the date:

Congressman Ron Paul
U.S. House of Representatives
July 16, 2002

Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act. This legislation restores a free market in housing by repealing special privileges for housing-related government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). These entities are the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie), and the National Home Loan Bank Board (HLBB). According to the Congressional Budget Office, the housing-related GSEs received $13.6 billion worth of indirect federal subsidies in fiscal year 2000 alone.

One of the major government privileges granted these GSEs is a line of credit to the United States Treasury. According to some estimates, the line of credit may be worth over $2 billion. This explicit promise by the Treasury to bail out these GSEs in times of economic difficulty helps them attract investors who are willing to settle for lower yields than they would demand in the absence of the subsidy. Thus, the line of credit distorts the allocation of capital. More importantly, the line of credit is a promise on behalf of the government to engage in a massive unconstitutional and immoral income transfer from working Americans to holders of GSE debt.

The Free Housing Market Enhancement Act also repeals the explicit grant of legal authority given to the Federal Reserve to purchase the debt of housing-related GSEs. GSEs are the only institutions besides the United States Treasury granted explicit statutory authority to monetize their debt through the Federal Reserve. This provision gives the GSEs a source of liquidity unavailable to their competitors.

Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market. This is because the special privileges of Fannie, Freddie, and HLBB have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.

However, despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policies of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.

Perhaps the Federal Reserve can stave off the day of reckoning by purchasing GSE debt and pumping liquidity into the housing market, but this cannot hold off the inevitable drop in the housing market forever. In fact, postponing the necessary but painful market corrections will only deepen the inevitable fall. The more people invested in the market, the greater the effects across the economy when the bubble bursts.

No less an authority than Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has expressed concern that government subsidies provided to the GSEs make investors underestimate the risk of investing in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Mr. Speaker, it is time for Congress to act to remove taxpayer support from the housing GSEs before the bubble bursts and taxpayers are once again forced to bail out investors misled by foolish government interference in the market. I therefore hope my colleagues will stand up for American taxpayers and investors by cosponsoring the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act.
It's different than choosing HC because
You go it backwards. The DNC, Bill, Hillary, her supporters, the press and democrats in general were hoping and, at times, pushing that idea because that "dream team" ticket would have been unbeatable in terms of assuring democrat victory in November.

Trouble is, this was not Obama's "dream team" because of the tactics HC used during the primary, Bill's attitude, the 1-on-1 personality clash that was apparent between him and HC and the idea that, in reality, it would be a 3-way presidency. So, unlike JM, he did NOT cave to the pressure, did NOT base his decision on electability, and opted to choose a candidate who (in his words) could help him make the best decisions possible for the country, particularly in the area of foreign policy. This is somebody who he admires, trusts, has experience and is a good family man with integrity.

These seem like pretty solid reasons on which to base a pick. They make an excellent team because they complement one another. Vision plus experience, a winning combination for this country at a time when it is needed the most. That is how this is different than not choosing Hillary.
I don't think it is an option - I think it is obvious they dislike each other immensely! nm
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No Bush and No McCain. If Hilary is not an option
my vote will go to Ralph Nader. I cannot in good faith vote for any republican or democrat with the state of the nation today.  Gas prices, offshoring, etc. It is time we show Washington we are not interested in business as usual. Our country is going down the toilet and yet we continue to vote for the same old, same old. I called my DSL provider for tech support last week and spoke to....AN INDIAN! Same with my mother's DSL provider (2 different companies), yet tech support calls are going to India! No more republican! No more democrat! I QUIT!
How is that different from not choosing Hillary....
when she is as qualified. Because the DNC said no.
Picking and choosing...(sm)
when we want majority rule to count....Hmmmm.  That sounds exactly like what the religious community did when they pushed to get it on the ballot. 
this is in regards to Obama choosing biden for VP

it's not original but it is fitting.


this is in regards to Obama choosing biden for VP, Huckabee said


"it's like going to Baskin Robbins and picking vanilla" LOL


I love it. The man who supposedly is about change, doesn't select a VP that's anything different than any of the other demos out there.


McBush not looking 2 smart for choosing her...
First of all Palin is *not* stupid, she's just not ready - and might never be ready.

She should be commended for stepping up when the GOP machine came calling. McBush picked her because he was pressured to, and probably because the other experienced GOP contenders said, 'uh, think I'll pass.'

And the media IS taking some good swipes at her - after all she baited them to do so a bit in her speech. Note to Palin: You weren't just trying to win over the GOP delegates in your first speech to the world, you were trying to win us *all* over. You should have skipped the cutesy/snarky...
His real mistake was not choosing the
hero, Mr. O, wanted him to choose!
Choosing 1 word out of a definition........... sm
does not make the definition fit your particular agenda.

The definition of an apple per WordNet at Princeton:

NOUN (2)

1. fruit with red or yellow or green skin and sweet to tart crisp whitish flesh;

2. native Eurasian tree widely cultivated in many varieties for its firm rounded edible fruits;
[syn: apple, orchard apple tree, Malus pumila]

Now the definition of pear....

NOUN (2)

1. sweet juicy gritty-textured fruit available in many varieties;

2. Old World tree having sweet gritty-textured juicy fruit; widely cultivated in many varieties;
[syn: pear, pear tree, Pyrus communis]

Does that mean that apples are pears simply because of 1 word in the definition that is the same (fruit)?

You have proven no facts whatsoever. You have presented your opinion, plain and simple.
I heard that McCain was TOLD he would be choosing her!
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Tired of choosing between crap and crap?
I posted "over there" and so I figured I'd post over here, too.  Anyone else tired of party wars and sheep mentality and more interested in the Constitutional Republic that made us what we are now?