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Just venting somewhat about depressed parents sm

Posted By: happy daughter on 2008-01-16
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I feel the need to vent a little about my parents.  I talk sometimes with my hubby but he doesn't give much input.  I'm close with my parents (I'm 36 they are in their mid 50s).  My dad has always been controlling and negative (causing stress on our family).  I'm an only child.  I'm not going to go into deep details about stuff.  My parents are not financially stable. My mom is a hard worker, always has been.  My dad hasn't worked for almost 9 years.  He rehabs houses when he has one to rehab.  They are down in the dumps I think because of money.  My mom gets stressed out with her job and then not having financial help from my dad, that stresses her.  My dad is a negative person.  He lost his mom when he was in his 20s and I'm not sure if he believes in God.  He doesn't have faith at all.  He gets jealous when my kids stay the night with my in-laws (my parents like my in-laws). There's no talking with my dad.  The one time I tried to talk to him about something he said to me that hurt my feelings (I was 30), he didn't talk to me for a whole week.  Sometimes I feel guilty for being happy.  My hubby and I are fine financially, with our faith.  I wish I could sit them down and talk with them, but there would be nothing but negative talk coming from them.  I know that really you can't help someone unless they are ready to help themselves.  It's really hard to say exactly what I feel.  I love my parents, I want them to be happy, but then I feel like YOU are the only one who can change your life, or what makes you happy.  I don't want disconnect from my parents (they live a mile from us).  If my dad would just go get a job, I believe he'd feel so much better about himself.  Anyway, I'm really sorry for rambling on like this.  I just don't have anyone to talk to.  I sometimes feel responsible for my parent's happiness/unhappiness.  But growing up, I could never do anything right to please my dad, so I guess that's why I feel that way.  There's so much I could type about, but not going to.  There have been numerous times I thought to myself that I wish my mom would've never married my dad.  Anyway, thanks for listening.




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Venting sm

I just need to vent a little here. 


I drive an Explorer that's pretty much on its last leg (9 years old).  We're waiting until next year to get me a new vehicle.  My husband, on the other hand, drives the newer Taurus (only 2 years old).


I drive my 7-year-old daughter to and from school every day and also to jump rope class, etc. 


We plan to get the Explorer fixed next month.  In the meantime, I have asked my husband if I can drive his car (the newer one) on a couple of occasions, but he basically ignoerd me and I always ended up driving the Explorer.  Well, yesterday I told him I need to drive his car until the Explorer is fixed.  If I didn't have my 7-year-old with me, I probably would continue driving the Explorer.


He finally left his car for me to drive today, but he is so upset about it.  I don't understand it.  Shouldn't he want his wife and child to be in the safer, more reliable vehicle?


I don't think I should have to beg him to drive his car, especially since I'm driving our 7-year-old all around the city.  I also don't understand why he is upset.  


 


Somebody help!


 


 


 


venting about son
I am so sorry about your son. I know how you feel - I have been there too. My son is now 31, has schizophrenia, lives with us at the current time. We started with the problems in about 4th grade and went through counselors, doctors, hospitals, etc. forever. I know how hard it is to make the decision to place your child somewhere. Absolutely no one can tell you when the right time is. My son has been in the hospital several times, some short term stays and some long term stays. The longest time was when he was 15-16. Eleven months in Topeka, KS at Menninger Children's Psychiatric Hospital. We live in IL, so it was quite a trip. He did well there, but relapsed immediately upon discharge. Most of these kids with severe problems do need 24/7 maintenance to stay on track. It will get to the impossible stage for you both emotionally and financially, as well as physically. There are good group homes and there are bad group homes. If you go that route, check them out thoroughly. My prayers are for you and your little boy. Children like this will always be "our little boy/girl" to us. God's Blessings to you today and everday. Email me if you need to vent or just want more information. I have taught a class for NAMI and would be glad to listen.
venting...
I am not in the exact boat you are in. My child is 9. But my husband is as messy as a child. LOL!
If I had a 26-year-old daughter a home she would have to help out. I mean she has a free place to live so why shouldn't she help? I would tell her certain things she has to do. Like cook a few nights a week. Help clean even if it is on weekends when she is off. She needs to help you. As for your husband ask him to help you our with cooking sometimes and just pick up after himself.
venting to
Probably the next time your husband complains about not being able to find a job, he should not say anything in front of your son.

It would seem that your son perceives he was raised in a way that was unsympathetic, and so he is not feeling much sympathy for you either.

I am not sure if that requires an apology, but you can always request that a kid shut up and keep their opinions to themselves.
You seem to be depressed. You should be SM
getting some joy from life, your work, your family, your friends. Those are the most important things.

Is there any way you can see a therapist? I would talk to your family physician about antidepressants or see who he/she can recommend you see.


I know he is depressed...but
he refuses to ask a doctor about it and get medication. I have tried multiple times to get him to. I have to take antidepressants myself. If I don't I don't want to do anything. I have told him this, but he won't listen. So I can't force him. I let him eat when he comes over and all. But what I am concerned about is when he is evicted he can't live here and how do I tell him that? My husband says absolutely not because he sold a mobile home he had a few months back that was paid for and blew the money. He said he shouldn't have sold it and he would have a place to live. He said he cannot live here. I have to tell him if he asks no. And he does hint about it. My husband is a truckdriver and I know when he is gone dad is gonna say well can I just sleep here while he is gone. My husband says no he is not. He said he has to learn to stand on his own two feet. How do I tell him? How would you go about it? I thought I would just say you have to talk to Steven (my husband). Of course he isn't gonna ask my husband.

What to do, What to do?
No way! He may be depressed,

but he created this huge mess of his life.  It is not his daughter's responsibility to pick up the pieces for him.  (Just to fill in the back story, dad blew all his money on a mistress.  Mom didn't just throw him out.)


I think the OP should have her husband tell her dad in no uncertain terms that he WILL NOT be staying with them when he loses his apartment.  Since the OP understandably has a weak spot for her dad, her hubby should step in BEFORE he is out on the street, look ole' dad in the eye and tell him it's time to be a man and stop the whining.  


Just wondering, OP, has your dad ever asked you or your mother to forgive him for all the pain he caused?   


 


Venting update sm

Thanks for all the support and input.


I'm happy to say my husband is no longer upset about us switching cars.  In fact, he told me I can drive his car as long as I want.  I don't think he realized how unsafe it was for me to drive the Explorer. 


He's really a good husband/father, but we just had a problem with this car issue. 


Thanks again!  I love this board!


My mom and the kids- venting! (sm)

My mom came to visit and watch my kids while I work - I am paying her because she needs the money. My children are a 10 year old boy and a  7 ytear old girl.  They are generally well-behaved, never get in trouble at school, get in trouble sometimes at home for the usual kid stuff, but they are basically nice children.  My mom has a tendency to joke and play around with them a lot, but then gets offended when they try to play back. Yesterday they were feeling comfortable with her (only see her a couple of times a year) and they both dressed up in "spy" costumes and came out to spy on her.  When she "caught" them, they pretended to do karate chops and kicks - which they do with me regularly, very softly, never to inflict pain.  They did this to her and she is very angry, saying that my children "hit and kicked" her and that if they are bad again she is going to spank them.  Also, she has varicose veins on her legs and my daughter asked her what are those "cracks" in your legs?  So she is offended about that and therefore when my chubby son walked in without his shirt on this morning she asked, "what's wrong with your belly or is that just fat?" She has also been arguing with my son trying to convince him that there are ghosts and demons on earth (even though I asked her to stop) and when he said there were not, she got out the Bible and was trying to show him passages to prove it until I came out and made her stop.  Is everyone's mom like this?? Do they just forget that children are young and don't think like adults??


venting and angry
My daughter had this same problem 2 years ago. I finally called the doctor, and the nurse asked me if we have animals. I told her that we did, and she said that they need to be treated as well. So, along with treating my daughter, bagging all her stuffed toys, vacuuming and steaming everything else she had been in contact with I bathed the cats in a shampoo for animals that helps treat lice. We didn't have problems with them again. Maybe you should find out if this child's family has pets, and if so, make a suggestion that they treat them as well. I know this is a frustrating and expensive problem, but as was stated earlier, I think educating the child's mother is the Christ-like thing to do. If she gets angry about your help/suggestions, then you know that you did your part. Hang in there!!
Sweetie, I am depressed because of the
state of the world, and I guess maybe I was supposed to post for you. I wish I could help you, bring you a smile. Your poor children. What a sad world this is with people hurting as you are hurting. That is what is depressing me. I guess I did expect maybe a smile from these people in real life. That's all I tried to say. I am depressed over what kind of world this is, where neighbors can't say hello and smile, where even church members just are members on paper only on a mailing list, but can't sit and smile, especially during the Holidays. I am so sorry for all the hurt you have been thru, and, yes, I have been seriously hurt as well. I have moved on, though, and will never ever lose my joy. Thank you sincerely for helping me see this.
I'm officially depressed
If I made $80,000/year , I would think I was rich. . I am single but only make about 19,000 per year - thank God my child is out on her own.
I feel exactly the same. I am very depressed and
anxious now about everything and don't have the money for it this year.  I have to find a way to tell my nieces, etc. that I am not buying gifts this year, but it is hard.  My mom is elderly and ill and things are not right for it this year.  Good luck to you.
Every year same old, same old at tax time Venting-

My husband and I never fight ----- until April. Then it's constant for about 2 weeks.


My hubby is self-employed. We've had a couple of rough years and for the past 2 years were unable to pay quarterly taxes. When tax time rolls around, bang! We're fighting like cats and dogs! He complains about how much he has to pay in every year I really don't blame him, as it seems like in his line of work, a lot of deductions are not allowed and it sucks.


In reality, we gotta get on top of the quarterlies again. Then it wouldn't hurt so much. He said he didn't make any money last year, but we still have to pay in over $8000 to the IRS. I really don't know how this could be either. Then he threatens to sell his equipment. Now for the next 3 months, all I'll hear is the complaining (putting it nicely). 


It upsets me when we fight, but I'm tired of hearing it all the time. I wasn't even going to tell him how much we owed but I didn't know where to get the money to quietly pay off the IRS.


Anybody want a wonderful husband for the next month or so? Just until he gets over it, then I want him back. (only kidding---he's a real keeper).


Thanks for listening. Any suggestions on how to get around this crappy tax thing, please let me know.


 


 


Since when is venting spiteful and immature?
You obviously have some bitter feelings on this topic. I suppose you were in a stepfamily that was all love n' peace?
She sounds depressed. Sorry if that offends
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Actually, he sounds clinically depressed - sm
I would call the local "crisis response team" and say you think he is a danger to himself, to get him in for a 72-hour evaluation. Sounds to me like he needs to be on some meds, get some counseling, and - if he is faking - see that his threats have consequences. If he isn't faking, you'll have helped him get professional care. Good luck.
Sick of the stereotyping... Not bashing just venting a little
I am the VERY PROUD mother of a well rounded well behaved 16 yo daughter. She doesnt make all A's but she does well. She has more worked more community service hours in the last year (as well as the past five) than any one we know of. BUT she is given hades by teachers, parents, and just about anyone who does not know her because they can tell just by looking at her that she is TROUBLE. The judge her because she wears gauges (ears only) likes baggy jeans (always wears a belt) and band T-shirts (usually black) and big hoodies or jackets- very similar to the boys in the pic. People are SOOO JUDGEMENTAL her friends have to sneak to be around her because their parents think she is a bad influence yeah my non-drinking non smoking baby girl who was home on prom night by 1030 because the "other kids were getting crazy".

Please before you judge kids think about how you would want others to treat your child. To quote my daughter " I am an individual! Not some mindless twit that just follows to belong!". So just try and remember how you would like your child/teen to be treated before you judge/react to someelses child.

Take care and have a MERRY X-MAS and dont forget to hug your teen.
Hope venting made you feel better...

The thing that struck me the most in your post is that you help a friend by listening to dictation.  Is this during *your* work hours?  If so, try not to answer the phone.  I know, it sounds so simple, but if you have kids, this can be tough.  Anyhow, if the friend asks why you are not answering, tell her you need to focus on getting lines so you can pay your monthly bills (stress this!).  Maybe she will get the hint.  I had to do this when a coworker called me constantly.  I'm a sole income earner so can empathize.  As for the friends working when they were asked not to, well, unfortunately, it is a supervisors/manager's job to handle.  Hopefully s/he will take care of this.  Good luck. 


I am so depressed about them finding James Kim dead. I am having a really sm

hard time grasping this that I can't imagine what his poor wife and family must be going through. I can't even move and want to read everything about them finding him, etc. if he only stayed in the car with them - He left Saturday morning to look for help and the found his wife and girls on Monday. And he was found dead today miles from where the car was found.


I guess I could thank God that his wife and 2 children are still alive. I am happy they are alive, but it just makes me unbelievably sad what he must have gone through. He had such a great will to live and yet he died out there.


 


I don't know if anyone out there reading this who lives in Oregon, but I certainly have zero desire to EVER venture out into the Oregon wilderness, now more so than ever. I've heard horror stories about one-lane, winding, extremely hazardous roads and I don't understand why the state won't fix that? This isn't the first family to go through something like this because a lot of maps are contradicting.


 


This should serve as a warning to anyone who wants to travel the Oregon mountains, especially in the wintertime - DON'T DO IT.


 


How tragic and sad.


Why would it offend me? And suggesting someone is depressed isn't a putdown anyhow. NM
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I am feeling very depressed this Christmas season. I feel guilty because I
would rather it would be over.  I have no money to shop, and things in general are bad in my life.  I am trying very hard to focus on what matters this time of year and what it is about.  Anyone else having difficulty now?
Hayseed..you crack me up.. I needed that. I was sitting here on the verge of tears..depressed..and
you made me laugh. Sadly, even her dad couldn't save her though. She lived with him but he was on the verge of a heart attack ( I feel his pain). He said he tried to avoid going home because he would get heart palpitations which I now recognize as anxiety that I also get around her. He just couldn't deal with it anymore. She drives everyone away and that hurts me too but yeah I keep thinking the only way I'll ever get away from her is enroll in a witness protection program..and of course, I feel guilty for wanting to get away from her.
Yes, my dad's parents
My dad died when I was 18. I love my daddy, and I love my pop (step-dad). It is so sad that my children never got to meet their grandpa, but they do also have a grandpa (my pop) that loves them with all his heart. I also have a brother, who was named after my dad, and felt it only right that if anyone uses my dad's name it be his choice, not mine. Does that make sense? Thanks for your input!!!
My parents did it,
and they would say DON'T get Sears to do it. They did a horrible job.


My parents have several sm
and are very happy. I don't know how my dad went about aquiring them (he does have his real estate license)so that is probably a plus even though that is not his regular job. My parents are able to spend 3 weeks straight in Florida each year due to time shares. Two weeks at one place and one week at another. He also will swap time shares with others so they don't always have to go to the same places every year. My husband and I looked into one at Hilton Head and it just didn't seem like a very good deal to us. I didn't talk to my father first, but felt sure he would have advised against this one. This is just from my experience. I have heard horror stories from others. Good Luck.
What about your parents
Treat them as if they were your parents.  Most of the time when I was married and we went to my in-laws, we knocked but then walked in especially if it was through the garage.  I did the same at my parents, went through the sliding glass door.  They did the same at our house.  To me is is a minor thing and I did not care,  thought it was great that they liked me and felt welcome enough to come on over and drop by.   If they ended up seeing something they shouldn't then perhaps next time they would have called.  Or if someone was there that they did not plan on seeing whatever.  Sometimes we had the best last minute pot luck and card games that way.   But that is me.  
My parents are the same way. They don't like to
"invite" themselves along to the in-laws' houses on holidays, and won't even accept direct invitations from the in-laws because they think I pressured the invitation. My in-laws (and I) always figure "the more, the merrier!" When I host here, I invite all of my in-laws' extended families, but they don't want to come either. So we all wind up doing the two dinner thing and trying to schedule around EVERYONE. It's annoying. I'd rather rent a big hall and have EVERYONE show up for potluck. But nobody wants to leave their houses. Always some excuse, like young kids, but they didn't mind making me haul my young kids all over the state. And I'm the one in the family with the most kids. I say go anyway to the in-laws. Your parents can stay at your house alone for the evening, or they can come with you. It's their choice, but your plans are already made.
27 and 31 here, in the NE. Many other parents we
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it's not just the parents...
kids today have different issues to face than kids did even up to the 50s and 60s. Most kids are watching MTV before they are out of diapers. It's just easier to put something electronic in a kid's hand than have to act like a parent. Kids are having kids at earlier ages than ever. A few years ago I lived in south Philly and watched a girl about 12 yo with a baby talking to a young boy on a bicycle. She told him she wanted money for the baby and he told her his mom didn't give him any lunch money that week, so he didn't have anything to give her.

My situation has been different because of the abandonment issues my GD has had to adjust to... but get this. One reason I can not spank her is because she came to me with some violent behavior from her parents. Her mom would let her run across the room (to the mom), jump on her and wrestle until she was so over stimulated the baby would bite mom on the face...and mom just laughed. I could not spank her for biting me...one violent action did not change the first. I have had to learn many new techniques since I raised my kids...obviously spaking did not work on them! I was very firm with them and used spanking as a last resort, but I can't do that with this child. She has to trust me and spankings do not build trust. We have a great relationship now, but I constantly have to reinforce changing her behavior from what she had when she came to me, along with just asserting her own indpendence as she grows older, with my words and deeds, not with violence.
My parents used to do this...
I can remember begging my mom for the list of names and numbers and she'd never give in.  Drove us 4 kids up the wall!  But thinking back, it was fun!  Merry Christmas y'all!!!
Where are the parents???

I don't put the blame totally on Brittany (most of it I do, but not all of it).  Her parents should be hauled down with her.  Where in the world were they when this all was beginning.  If it was me my mom and dad would be right there beside me saying what in the world is going on and they would get me the counseling I needed (and not allow me to leave when I wanted to).  I don't care if she is a "pop" star or not.  If more of the parents of these "stars" would act like parents you would think their children would behave more rationally.  I look at Brittany and lots of her friends and they really are still children.  I have a brother-in-law who is 48 and acts like he's 16 and needs to be kept in line by his mom.  Maybe the parents are too worried that their famous kids will stop giving them money....who knows.  Maybe not, but it looks like it to me.


parents
I had a daughter in a similar situation. Her school had a tutoring program after schools with actual teachers and that really helped her a lot. She actually was doing okay in the class, but just didn't feel confident. The teachers made her feel more sure of herself and that seemed to make all the difference. I'd talk with the physics teacher or counselor to see if they can work with her before she drops the class.
Parents what would you do?

I'm looking for some advice.  My daughter just started the 9th grade.  She's been in accellerated/Honors classes for a few years and she has always maintained a 98+ average.   This year she's taking Physics, a 12th grade class.  She's only been back to school for less than two weeks and she's so stressed out.  She wants to drop out of the class already.  I told her to give it to the first semester which will be over in ten weeks to see how it goes.  My husband feels that she has to take it eventually so she should say in the class.  She's afraid that this course is going to ruin her grade point average that she's very proud of.  I think she should talk to the teacher and her counselor to see what advice they have.  Her teacher is one that gives the work and says do it without really teaching them how to do anything.  I'm so illiterate when it comes to science I'm no help at all.  My husband took physics years ago and he tried to work with her last night, but I'm not sure how much he remembers himself.  What would you do if your child was in the same predicament?


parents
careful, your face will freeze that way. go to your room and wait. killer was "I never thought I could be so disappointed in you. I thought we raised you better than that".
parents
how could I forget this one? Can't never accomplished anything.
never make fun of what someone does for a living as long as it is an honest job.
parents
My parents helped very little - they were very loving, but very poor. I worked, had no car, ate very simple cheap foods - that is the only way I could have done it. . I could not help my daughter much either - she got scholarships, took out loans and worked - full time one year while attending college full-time. . If parents can help, I think they should. . I think this mom is willing to help, just not change her entire life, which she should not have to.
This all comes down to the parents

I think those women are making a big mistake.  I love my sister and nephew, don't get me wrong.  But he is like that 7 yo and it drives me crazy.  BUT my sister and BIL are to blame, I feel.  He gets a toy every time they're in a store.  He gets a new toy if he's good at the dentist.  My sister feels "guilty" if he likes something and she doesn't run out and get it.  They buy him major video games just because, instead of reserving these things for birthdays or Christmas.  They will go out and buy him a $200 item in the middle of the week and when I ask what the occasion is?  Nothing, we just thought he'd like it!


He is well behaved and they don't use the toys as bribes, but yet still, it's unbelievable some of the stuff they do.  Yes, it's their only child, but I'm amazed.  Growing up when we would talk, my sister had definite opinions about what she would and would not do when she had children, and this is not how she felt back then. 


But he doesn't know anything about Monopoly or playing cards, or any of that stuff.  In my opinion, they're raising him to be materialistic and as an adult I can see him as one of those guys who always has to have the latest toys to impress the other guys.  Just my opinion.


 


You might be right, but my parents had me so...
afraid of them that I would NEVER have considered such a thing. Although I do not have a teenager yet, my hope is to have that kind of fear and, yes, respect by the time they are that age. However, I might live to eat my words yet. I just think that with a teenage girl, this might not really have been about a wedding after all--it could have been about a date to a wedding and I find that scary.
See what I mean? Some parents have no
consideration for anyone but themselves. Yes, parenting is a tough job. Some people do it better than others. But it doesn't give the less-than-adequate parents the right to inflict their out-of-control brats on others.

I love how they all go on the defensive, too, if you call them out on it. Suddenly they accuse the person objecting to their kids of not having kids themselves. (Usually not true).

It all boils down to consideration. And letting your infant scream through 3/4 of a movie, or a wedding ceremony, is pretty much akin to looking the other way while your dog drops a load of steaming poop on a neighbor's front lawn.
I would believe most parents would know
already.
You could do what my parents did to me
I stayed past curfew one too many times. First time they let it slide, second time the warned me and third time said I disobeyed, so they marched into my room, grabbed a suitcase and said if I didn't want to obey their rules than to get out and see if I could live somewhere cheaper and have a car whenever I wanted it. Even though the car was mine (old Valiant (think Chrysler made it, but it was mine), but they told me the car was not an option and would not be going with me.

It took me about 30 minutes of begging and pleading for them to let me to stay and I had to do some extra work around the house as punishment for disobeying them.

The only thing was back then 18 was legal age (drinking, etc). Your daughter is not of legal age yet. I'm not saying this is your or your daughter because I don't know you, but parents seem to always believe their kids are responsible. My sister thinks her 19-year-old son is responsible, but he shows time and time again he is not. I have a friend who boasted about how responsible her 17-year-old son is, he doesn't smoke or drink and studies in school and gets good grades and only goes out to go to the library. A few days later (Sat night) the police had brought him home as he was caught at a party drinking.

Took a lot of time for my parents to consider me responsible after some of the stuff I did (staying out past curfew, etc). Parents should not be so quick to trust their kids. They need to earn trust.
Where are parents?

Are the parents going to be home that allow this?  In Connecticut if there was underage drinking and something went wrong the parents would be in trouble as much as the rest of the kids. Just in one month we lost 5 teenagers in 3 different accidents for drinking and loosing control of their cars and running them up a pole.  A parents worse nightmare.  


I never had a problem with my two daughters with drinking underage at home. When they are at college I do not loose any sleep over it because what I don't see or know I cannot worry about it.  I trust they will make the right decisions but they are away so who knows.


My parents.
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Any foster parents out there?
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You're asking what I and other parents were asking...sm
when the other teacher was out so long. Our school system is probably the worst about holding back kids. I'm a foster parent and had a prior foster child that desperately needed to be held back (she was academically 2 years behind her peers and emotionally 2 years behind them) and they refused to hold her back because she had already been held back in the 1st grade due to poor attendance while she was with her birth parents, regardless of the fact that she was emotionally and educationally behind the kids her age.


They were all good parents as far as I know - sm
There were no reports in the news stating any reason why this group from Kansas thought they were bad parents. They were just parents with broken hearts. I agree with you that they need to be kept away from funerals.
Any parents here making a
to only have one child..? We're seriously considering not having any more..One is PLENTY OF WORK AND LOVE!!

If possible, their parents should be told..
that their boys are insulting and ridiculing adult women on the street. Having raised 3 sons, they were encouraged to be kids and have fun but they were CERTAINLY taught respect for adults and that it's wrong to insult anybody ''for fun'' (particularly adults). Unbelievable that the poster below called this ''minute''. There is nothing ''minute'' about ridicule and nasty remarks--particularly directed at a perfect stranger just going about her own business!
Yea, they might but the parents not as enthused
as when their children were little and I do not think it has that much to do with independence, I think the baby and toddler thing just hyped too much. I for one really disappointed in my children and nothing to do with if they are on their own or not.
Parents, what are you thinking about?
I have read today more about the little girl who was kidnapped in Portugal. I have no idea what her parents were thinking about norr for that reason, what a lot of parents are thinking about now. You cannot leave your children to go dine, even for 5 minutes, no matter how closeby you think you are. You cannot let your children run around in the stores unattended while you shop or leave them in the toy section to keep them occupied. You cannot leave them in the bathtub while you go to answer the phone or the door. It only takes a second for a child to drown. Don’t leave them in the vehicle while you run in the store or pump your gas leaving your vehicle running or the keys inside. There are all kinds of stories about the children kidnapped here just for those reasons. I do not care what section of the country you live in, don’t leave your doors open, be it daytime or night. You think you are safe. It only takes a few minutes for someone to swoop down and grab a child. The parents of this child in Portugal are 100% to blame for their child being kidnapped. They could have taken their children with them that evening or the resort where they were staying offered babysitting and yet the family opted not to have this. I hope for the best in her recovery. It was supposed to have been a family vacation so take the kids with you, be it a late evening dinner or the like. What a shame!