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Mary winkler on Oprah today

Posted By: Romey on 2007-09-12
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Would like to have a discussion on this and other's thoughts, especially after viewing the show or before either way. Very interested to see what she has to say and where are her parents? I would so not want my children with those freaky in-laws.


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Mary Winkler leaves near me. It is all over the news today - SM
Her in-laws are trying to get a junction to stop the local station from airing the episode of Oprah today.
Mary Winkler
I agree - what a CROCK!!
Mary Winkler
After viewing the O Show, I feel like Mary W. was secretly abused just like she said, little things would give you the indication, such as feeling like she was going to get into trouble for things that got broken, or for making a mistake. She was very quiet and it seemed like she never wanted to rock the boat so to speak. I am 42 and I remember going through the same things with my scared mom and abusive alcoholic dad. It took my mom 14 years to leave my dad and that was 30 years ago, she had 4 kids and no HS education so I know it was scary for her, but she worked two jobs and I pitched in too. I sometimes thought I could have taken the gun he threatened us with and used it on him instead. I feel she needs a lot of therapy, and so will her children.
Mary Winkler

the comment about inlaws was interesting.  I know some people in Church of Christ, it is very strict on divorce so apparently Mary W. felt trapped in her marriage.  It is my understanding that if one gets divorced they have to stay single rest of their life  or until the fomer spouse is dead.  she was certainly familiar with this doctrine.  


On the other hand, how would you feel if you saw your husband sort of smothering  your baby because she was crying which is what babies do?  It might make you mad enough to do something drastic about it.  Best course of action would be to pack up and leave before you shot the man.  It is hard to believe that she was in some sort of trance when she picked up the shotgun. But she probably felt trapped with no way out and the cornered rat will bite.....


The shoes and the other perversions if all of thihs is true would also make one very very angry.


I agree that she appeared to be sort of drugged,  obviously a sick woman who did something that will haunt her and her family for the rest of her and their lives.   She should be allowed visits with her children in a neutral spot, not in the inlaws home. 


 


 


and Mary Winkler gets 270 days??? nm
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Oprah today

Was that a total tearjerker today on her show with the puppy mills?  I just recently found out about puppy mills as I was trying to adopt a cocker spaniel from a rescue that deals with cockers.  I had to fill out a long application.  They checked a lot of references, called my previous vet, previous groomer, etc. Then they had to do a home visit. The lady that did the home visit told me some very sad stories about a puppy mill where they went in at night and tried to rescue some dogs away from the place.  She rescued one that only weighed 5 pounds that they used to breed. How sick are these places.  She said that the Amish- are very well known for this. She told me of a story that a man through a alive dog in a Goodwill bin because he was done with the breeding process and thank God the next day a worker heard the poor thing crying.  I rescued 2 cockers and could not be happier.  I do not know where they came from but they are so loving. I think the government needs to get involved and shut these places down. They are breeding thousands of dogs and meanwhile we are killing hundreds a day all over the US. Does that make any sense? Please no one buy from a PET STORE.  If you want a pet go to PETFINDER.COM and look up the breed, you want and you will see pictures of all kinds in all the US


 


 


I could not find it on Oprah website today. Where is
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Today's Oprah show is on the healthcare issue
Looks like an interesting show.  Lisa Ling confronts some insurance companies on why they won't cover certain procedures, etc.  It should be an interesting debate.  What a mess our system is!  One suggestion by a guest on the show is that all companies provide the same healthcare package, same rates, etc.  Now that's a great idea!
Snapfish free gift today on Oprah
Today on Oprah she announced that anyone that went into her website Oprah.com could get a free personalized picture album - with up to 20 digital pic upload by Sunday night.  Looked it over quickl and is really neat.  $30 value. 
Animal lovers, be sure to watch/record Oprah today. sm

Lisa Ling is reporting on puppy mills.  It looks like it will be a very powerful show.  I know that 'dog people' have been trying for *years* to get Oprah to do a show on this, and I'm so glad she finally is.  I desperately hope it will make a difference.  The dogs in the mills have been suffering far too long.  We need to put an end to puppy mills.  Please, pass the word. 


My MIL named her twin daughters Mary and Mary.
No lie. And now you have a pretty good picture of the kind of mother-in-law stories I can tell. And I do have MIL stories!


To Mary
I understand about liability and I am still responsible for him.....the only thing is....I want everybody to understand is that.....I DID NOT PUT HIM OUT....He is always welcome to come home, visit, etc...but he will not have access to MY HOUSE to come and go as he pleases......
Well Mary was only supposed to be 13-14 and . . .
not everybody believes it was an immaculate conception.
Mary and Byron are still together? that shocks me. nm
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Bella Belara by Mary Kay
Its light and very feminine
Me, too! Were u on that board when Mary was still moderator? Nm
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What do you think of the quality of clothing today. What I looked at shopping today in nice stores
the stuff wasnt even sewn properly.  Do you have to look at everything you buy or just hope it lasts a year. 
clarify please-u mean woman playing Mary.....sm

You do mean the person playing character of Mary in this movie got pregnant as a teen? 


Welcome to the 21st Century, m'dear.........*lol* - not many couples are getting married today (although the gay community sure is trying to get married).....but the numbers are WAY down for hetero couples.........


in any event, it's just a flick/movie - what do you care about the actors/actresses who are playing the characters? 


She's no woman, she IS 16 y/o. She is playing part of Mary
and she got pregnant by her 19 y/o boyfriend.
If you whistle, it makes the Virgin Mary Cry
(I've had worse things come out of my mouth.)
Sister Mary Magdeline's answers
1.You'll never see me watch___? The Devil in Mrs. Jones



2.You'll never see me wear___? a thong



3.You'll never see me eat___?
Meat on Friday


4.You'll never see me buy___?
contraceptives


5.You'll never see me clean___? Anything less than five times



6.You'll never see me kiss___? Father Murphy



7.You'll never see me talking___? Yiddish


Ms. Mary Mack!! My kids still play that one!
And they run up to the ice cream truck still and there is a sponge bob ice cream with gum ball eyes or something. Davy Jones! I still have a crush on him, my sis-in-law is president of his fan club, and she got to meet him at Disney once (sounds like Brady Bunch's Marcia). LOL. You are right, things have gotten stressful. But then again, I remember my dad talking about WWI and the depression and having to deliver blocks of ice to people. Though, it seems to me even there were hard times then, people seemed to still be happier than we are today. Seems like things changed after 911, at least to me. I try to keep my kids sheltered (I know that is terrible), but my 7 year old is in love with girls, my 8 year old knows all the pirate words already and all 3 of my kids including the 10 year old could probably tell me things I did not even want to know until the third year of college. My goodness! I am sounding like gasp, My Mother! LOL.
I'm sure Mary Jo Kopechne's family is not as happy as you. nm
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I love having a Mary Spirit in a Martha World
I am reading the second book it is called having a Mary Spirit, love it!!!!
Mary, I offer my prayers for the safety of your sons. SM
I thought brothers could not be in battle zones at the same time. Did they choose to?
Bloody Mary for breakfast, extra vodka! lol
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I thought Nigel was great but wasn't too impressed with Mary...
I am sure she was good back in the day but she seemed a bit slow and rusty to me...would have loved to see Mia dance..
Added fresh chives today. to the egg today.
and a SMIDGE of soy sauce.
Mary Kay's Intense Moisturizing Cream is what I use at night after I use the Timewise Age-fightin
moisturizer. It is amazing. My face is very soft and supple (can you tell I'm an MT?). I have an extra one if you need one. It cost me 30.00
No fan of either her or Oprah but having said that
I was so surprised when Rachael took on that type of show. She has several shows on Food NW and Oprah probably would have liked to have found her (as in Dr. Phil) but not so, too big a person in her own right before. Books, several shows on Food, well known before Oprah. Oprah played a point in putting her on that show, probably produces the newer show. I understand you are not really into Rachael but she was a talent and had already made it big longgggggggg before Oprah.
Oprah? What would anything she would say
?
No, no Oprah
Never said there was "nothing" either. It's just not what people think it is. Fairy tales are for children and heII was invented by poets, Dante to be specific.

BOO!!
Try Oprah.com
I missed what your issues are, but Oprah has a lot of great resources and seminar-type things on her site.

I know what you are saying. When it comes down to it, we are all alone. Even those who really care can only do so much.

I have been having a rough time pretty much for a couple of years. Sometimes you wonder what it's all about. Don't give up though, you just never know when something might change for the good!

I would think Dr. Phil & Oprah would have
covered these topics. They might even have that sort of information on their websites. Your mother might believe them over these men. Or undoubtedly Reader's Digest. If one of my parents were acting like this I'd seriously think they were getting something like Alzheimers, losing their good judgement.
it's now cuz Oprah is sponsoring her....BIG $$ now
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She was also on Oprah yesterday
singing with Kelly Clarkson and Justin Limberlake, promoting her Duets with Rebba, I think that is what it is called, album. Think I will buy it. She is great. Also loved the sitcom, especially her with her ex and Barbara Jean. Very funny.
Just saw a commercial for Oprah about how
to talk to your kids about divorce. I think it said it will be on next Wednesday.
Oprah's BIG GIVE sm

I love that show.  I think it is a great reality show that helps others.  If you saw it last week do you think Oprah will help the family that was promised money for funeral costs and the guy did not come through for the family.  I think so. 


Oprah or Ellen?

Oprah's show
I did watch it today...I thought I would have problems as I cannot watch most shows that show how animals are abused.  I thought it was very informative and discrete.  I will NEVER buy from a pet shop again although I got my buddy from a pet shop..went in for a hamster and came out with a 3 week old kitten in a cage by himself.  He used the litter box right away with no problems.  He is now 14 years old and is still not able to groom himself properly.  He goes against his hair and I just laugh and tell him how handsome he is - even though his hair is sticking up with spit all over.  He was not with his mom to learn.  He has other problems as being very dependent and sucking on my shirt...again his mom was not there and I am his mom.  He constantly "kneads" on me and I tell him it is Saturday and he does not have to make the donuts.  All kidding aside, it is very sad how these babies are taken away from their mom so soon.  It amazes me how money is SO important yet the babies and moms are put aside as money makers.  I love my Sim but he has a lot a problems probably due to being taken away from his mom so soon.  The next cat or dog I get will DEFINITELY be from a shelter, and a dog or cat that will be hard to place.  Please everybody, the pups and kittens are easy to place, give a home to the ones who are blind, deaf, are HIV, etc., they are so lovable....seems they know they have problems and will give you the love as you give them!!  ADOPT THE UNADOPTABLE!!! 
Well Oprah loved it! I want to see it.
Maybe tomorrow. 
Oprah probably does not have to listen to all the
Indian speakers I have to day after day.
I saw that on Oprah...so simple yet powerful!...
Especially when that married couple were at a stand still and then watched The Secret. Now, they have passion again for each other and are so happy. Something as simple as being grateful for what you have, then better things will come. I want to check that movie out.
That's the big secret? I saw some of that Oprah and got bored.
I have always been grateful for what I have, and no better things are coming my way, I can assure you. Maybe it's some sort of brainwash...with hidden subliminal messages. LOL
Anybody wath The Secret on Oprah.

Any experiences with this.  I am having a great time.


I watched it. Did you just watch Oprah, or...sm

Did you order the 'The Secret' DVD?  I've been thinking about ordering it.  What have you been doing that's fun?  Care to share?   


I watched it on Oprah and then bought the CD

It's an interesting CD and I really like the theory behind it, which has been around forever if you think about it. What I didn't like was all the emphasis on material things, wealth, money, etc.  To me it seemed that was the focus of the CD whereas on the show the panel focused on many other types of issues besides just getting wealthy.


Definately my choice would be Oprah!
; )
Oprah actually seems very "normal" for a billionaire,

Of course she has flaws and maybe some annoying personality traits, but it's all about intention imo, and I believe she is intending to change this world for the better, and she is succeeding!  Everyone has a right to their opinion, but before throwing stones at such a great humanitarian, why not take a look at yourself and ask what you've done to better the world lately.  I'm sure Oprah could name a few things off the top of her head!


She has stated numerous times that she has no interest in running for any type of political office, so don't worry your pretty little heads about it!  If she ever ran I think she would have a good shot just because she lives her life pretty openly and doesn't seem to have anything to hide (she might even give too much personal info on her show!), and she seems to have a good heart and really wants to help those less fortunate.  So many politicians scare me because they seem corrupt, and many are into shady business dealings.  Many seem to be in it just for the money, which she already has plenty of! -end pro-Oprah rant  (kam)


Please watch Oprah on Wednesday

She is doing a show about divorce and how it affects children.  I think she'll have experts/psychologists on to talk about ways of explaining divorce to children to make it as least traumatic as possible.  Oprah always seems to get the best experts on her show, and usually they have written books that you could read too.  I think how you talk to your kids about the divorce has a huge impact, and some parents get so wrapped up in their own pain that they fail to really help the kids with their heartbreak, so I think it's great you are thinking about your son first thing.  So many times the kids think it is their fault for some reason.


My personal opinion is that sometimes it is better to get divorced if you are miserable, because just as we want our kids to be happy, they want us to be happy too.  But, I think you have to try with everything you have inside of you first to make the marriage work, so then you can leave knowing you did everything you could to try to save the relationship (unless it is abusive in any way).  I would highly recommend watching Oprah on Wednesday though.  It looks like it's going to be a very moving, informative hour.


Saw him perform on Oprah last year - sm
At least what he did there was believeable.  For the mind tricks he said he pays more careful attention and is more perceptive than the average person.  He watches for very, very subtle changes in breathing, body language, etc., for the mind tricks.  I did see him escape from a straight jacket on Oprah.  The camera never left him.