My MIL named her twin daughters Mary and Mary.
Posted By: sm on 2008-01-29
In Reply to: The other board got me chuckling about male/female names. Can you name the sm - fun post
No lie. And now you have a pretty good picture of the kind of mother-in-law stories I can tell. And I do have MIL stories!
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I understand about liability and I am still responsible for him.....the only thing is....I want everybody to understand is that.....I DID NOT PUT HIM OUT....He is always welcome to come home, visit, etc...but he will not have access to MY HOUSE to come and go as he pleases......
Well Mary was only supposed to be 13-14 and . . .
not everybody believes it was an immaculate conception.
Mary Winkler
I agree - what a CROCK!!
Mary Winkler
After viewing the O Show, I feel like Mary W. was secretly abused just like she said, little things would give you the indication, such as feeling like she was going to get into trouble for things that got broken, or for making a mistake. She was very quiet and it seemed like she never wanted to rock the boat so to speak. I am 42 and I remember going through the same things with my scared mom and abusive alcoholic dad. It took my mom 14 years to leave my dad and that was 30 years ago, she had 4 kids and no HS education so I know it was scary for her, but she worked two jobs and I pitched in too. I sometimes thought I could have taken the gun he threatened us with and used it on him instead. I feel she needs a lot of therapy, and so will her children.
Mary Winkler
the comment about inlaws was interesting. I know some people in Church of Christ, it is very strict on divorce so apparently Mary W. felt trapped in her marriage. It is my understanding that if one gets divorced they have to stay single rest of their life or until the fomer spouse is dead. she was certainly familiar with this doctrine.
On the other hand, how would you feel if you saw your husband sort of smothering your baby because she was crying which is what babies do? It might make you mad enough to do something drastic about it. Best course of action would be to pack up and leave before you shot the man. It is hard to believe that she was in some sort of trance when she picked up the shotgun. But she probably felt trapped with no way out and the cornered rat will bite.....
The shoes and the other perversions if all of thihs is true would also make one very very angry.
I agree that she appeared to be sort of drugged, obviously a sick woman who did something that will haunt her and her family for the rest of her and their lives. She should be allowed visits with her children in a neutral spot, not in the inlaws home.
Mary and Byron are still together? that shocks me. nm
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and Mary Winkler gets 270 days??? nm
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Bella Belara by Mary Kay
Its light and very feminine
Me, too! Were u on that board when Mary was still moderator? Nm
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clarify please-u mean woman playing Mary.....sm
You do mean the person playing character of Mary in this movie got pregnant as a teen?
Welcome to the 21st Century, m'dear.........*lol* - not many couples are getting married today (although the gay community sure is trying to get married).....but the numbers are WAY down for hetero couples.........
in any event, it's just a flick/movie - what do you care about the actors/actresses who are playing the characters? 
She's no woman, she IS 16 y/o. She is playing part of Mary
and she got pregnant by her 19 y/o boyfriend.
If you whistle, it makes the Virgin Mary Cry
(I've had worse things come out of my mouth.)
Mary winkler on Oprah today
Would like to have a discussion on this and other's thoughts, especially after viewing the show or before either way. Very interested to see what she has to say and where are her parents? I would so not want my children with those freaky in-laws.
Sister Mary Magdeline's answers
1.You'll never see me watch___? The Devil in Mrs. Jones
2.You'll never see me wear___? a thong
3.You'll never see me eat___?
Meat on Friday
4.You'll never see me buy___?
contraceptives
5.You'll never see me clean___? Anything less than five times
6.You'll never see me kiss___? Father Murphy
7.You'll never see me talking___? Yiddish
Ms. Mary Mack!! My kids still play that one!
And they run up to the ice cream truck still and there is a sponge bob ice cream with gum ball eyes or something. Davy Jones! I still have a crush on him, my sis-in-law is president of his fan club, and she got to meet him at Disney once (sounds like Brady Bunch's Marcia). LOL. You are right, things have gotten stressful. But then again, I remember my dad talking about WWI and the depression and having to deliver blocks of ice to people. Though, it seems to me even there were hard times then, people seemed to still be happier than we are today. Seems like things changed after 911, at least to me. I try to keep my kids sheltered (I know that is terrible), but my 7 year old is in love with girls, my 8 year old knows all the pirate words already and all 3 of my kids including the 10 year old could probably tell me things I did not even want to know until the third year of college. My goodness! I am sounding like gasp, My Mother! LOL.
I'm sure Mary Jo Kopechne's family is not as happy as you. nm
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I love having a Mary Spirit in a Martha World
I am reading the second book it is called having a Mary Spirit, love it!!!!
Mary Winkler leaves near me. It is all over the news today - SM
Her in-laws are trying to get a junction to stop the local station from airing the episode of Oprah today.
Mary, I offer my prayers for the safety of your sons. SM
I thought brothers could not be in battle zones at the same time. Did they choose to?
Bloody Mary for breakfast, extra vodka! lol
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I thought Nigel was great but wasn't too impressed with Mary...
I am sure she was good back in the day but she seemed a bit slow and rusty to me...would have loved to see Mia dance..
Mary Kay's Intense Moisturizing Cream is what I use at night after I use the Timewise Age-fightin
moisturizer. It is amazing. My face is very soft and supple (can you tell I'm an MT?). I have an extra one if you need one. It cost me 30.00
I named my daughters Katie Ann and Kelsey Nicole. sm
Our son is Kyle. I also like the name Kellen for a boy or a girl. Good luck!
I have a Chihuahua named Mione. My daughter named her after Hermione from Harry Potter. I also ha
We also have a hamster named Sandy.
I have a twin.
My husband still can't read my mind like that sister can, LOL.
You could be my twin
I have the EXACT same issue as you!!!! My male cat Gus has urinated on my bedroom carpet in the same area over and over. I tried the pet odor cleaner from Petco called Naturals Miracle. It's actually a skunk odor cleaner, but it really worked for us. Also, there is something else you can buy at Petco that you can spray on the area that will detract your cat from urinating in that area again; probably would be in the same section as the skunk odor cleaner. I know exactly how you feel; it's driving me nuts. He's done it in other places too and it is the most offensive odor of all. My vet told me to change his food to one for urinary health and if that doesn't work then have him tested for an infection. I don't think he has an infection; I think he is just a big ol' pain in the butt that does what he wants.
Anyway, try it out; good luck and let me know how you make out!!!!
You have got to be my twin.
Everything you said is me. (except the bread winning part). Mine doesn't work and has been saying now for I don't know how many years he is going to get a job. But of course, this happens, that happens, blah, blah, blah. Think he's going through mid life phase right now. But he drives me absolutely NUTS!!!!
I'm 48, been married 26 years and every day I say to myself I WOULD be better on my own. We have no kids, own no house or property and the man can't figure out what he want to do. This is not the same man I married and I don't know what happened to him. There are so many times where I wish I would just keel over just to serve him right. HA HA. I always think...if I keeled over right now that would be just fine by me because I would be with the people I love who have gone on ahead and me, then he can do all the stuff I do and it would serve him right. HA HA
One thing for definite is if anything ever happened to him I would never, and I repeat NEVER, ever ever ever marry again. And if I did I think I would choose to share my life with another woman. Men! I've had it. They don't sit and listen, they try to interject how they think you should feel. I've spent 26 years hearing "you need to think about this the way I do". At least all my woman friends understand the ups and downs going on. This man doesn't even understand the simple concept of "when I am having a PMS attack please leave me by myself". No, instead he has to pick and pick at me and push and push. Then when I get me he lays into me and tells me I need to "deal".
I think society creates a life that everyone buys into. My mom always told me you go to school, graduate, get a job, get married, have kids, have grandkids and that's the way life is suppose to be. Everything I see in the news is pushing the idea that you have to have a man to be happy. I just say "oh quite contraire" (ok, could you hear my french accent there). HA HA. I really think that to be really truly happy in life you need to learn to know yourself, know what you want in life and take care of yourself before giving yourself to someone else (whether it be the opposite or same sex).
Are you my twin Tinks? lol
All of my joints pop especially during hanky panky (blush, blush), including hips, shoulders, neck, back. It is kinda' creepy, but hubby says makes for good flexibility. LOL I pop my fingers all the time and always have even as a child. They don't look bigger, but they do stiffen up especially in the cold. I just run them under hot water, seems to help. I can make my right ankle (foot pedal ankle) pop at any given time? I'm going to wind up with my fingers all crinkled up aren't I? lol My Dad always said I was double-jointed! Is that a true condition? 
My husband has a twin!!!???
I ended up painting my room a dark olive color with burgundy curtains and heavy wood blinds. You might consider theater black out panels or black out canvas. I have seen these at wal-mart. Material are often used in hotel/motel rooms to block light. Since you don't want creeping in through edges you might consider velcro-ing panel around inside window frame so it is removable, or attaching rings to use like roman shades.
ABC distributing as some, fairly reasonable. http://www.abcdistributing.com/home/catalog/cat_item_pg.asp?G=350&P=25 If all else fails get him an eye mask.
does he have a twin; can I clone him?
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You must be my twin because you just wrote
everything about me to a T!!! I've been in a quandry for quite some time about what I should do.
lol I think I found my twin!
Same philosophy in my household. Don't think it doesn't take a lot of work and a few "episodes" to prove the point. My husband and son like to play those games every once in a while but I toss them right back and now it is to the point where we don't even have to discuss it. They get the message through actions loud and clear.
My favorite is when hubs does laundry and leaves all my clothes on the corner of the bed. Hahaha! First, folding is the hardest part...second, I have no problem doing only my laundry and no one else's. What's funny is it takes him a bit to catch on, usually when he runs out of underwear! lol What's good for the goose is good for the gander!
Not to mention the kids too. At the age of 9 my son started doing his own laundry. Didn't like it at the start but now its just a normal weekly thing...and the best part I don't get those "but it's not clean and I need to wear it TODAY!" :)
Oh, my gosh, it's my kitty's twin!!! sm
your cat look's just like my
Pumpkinkitty!!!
I married my twin sister's boyfriend
:)
She is gorgeous, and a twin to my niece's beautiful cat, Nina! NM
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The Shining. When those twin girls show up and I'm watching it alone,
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Well, I had to send my twin 3-year-olds to a school.
They are there all day long and I work all day. Paying for the daycare and making more money is about equal to when I worked at home with them in my way, only I am more sane for it and they are learning great social skills. I would really consider changing your hours and putting them in school/daycare/learning center, even if just for a few hours a day. It does help.
Like I said, I feel for you. I have twin 3-year-olds, and I swear they seem worse than when they were 2! LOL!
Thank God for daughters
My daughter came home and started going through scripture. This is what she came up with. It made me even sadder thinking about what a loss it is to lose a child.
Our dearest friends, "Give all your worries and cares to God, for he cares about what happens to you." -1 James 5:7 We are truly sorry for the world's loss and your pain. We're here for you.
me: Appreciate the input to all who posted. I knew she'd do it for me, but wasn't sure if she'd be here in time.
This is so sad....
I have three daughters (sm)
My oldest daughter has a different father than my youngest two. This situation had nothing with a breach of faithfulness to my ex-husband or current husband. I've been entirely faithful in my marriages. My current husband raises her as his own and has since before she was 2. We have as close to a nuclear family as can be expected in this situation.
We cannot assume that because children have different biological fathers (or mothers) in one family that there was some wrongdoing. :)
Two daughters 14 and 4
1. What ages are your kids?
14 and 4
2. Do they have their own cell phone? No,we were planning on getting my daughter a prepaid cell phone for Christmas until we realized all she wanted it for was to text and talk to her friends even though we had told her it was just for emergencies. She uses her father's cell phone if she needs to be away from home where I don't have an exact time to pick her up and has to call for a ride. Too many of her friends have cell phones and run up $500 bills and their parents think nothing of it (that's why we were leaning towards a prepay) or have the most expensive cell phones on the market. We also thought that she'd use up in her minutes in weeks instead of months.
3. Do they have their own TV and or computer in their room? If so, are there set hours they're allowed to use these: My four year doesn't have a TV yet, but my oldest does. She has her own laptop computer courtesy of her cousin, but it's right next to mine and she only can be on it for an hour a day. She's been grounded from it so many times for going over the hour, but she knows there are consequences for not following the rules.
4. Do they receive an allowance? If so, are they required to do chores to receive this?
The four year old doesn't yet, although she helps me more than the 14 year old without asking. LOL. The 14 year old just gets $5 a week for doing her chores, more when I'm really busy and I need her to watch her younger sister.
my daughters are 5, 2, and 1 so they don't say anything
sometimes the 5 year old will aske me why I don't like granny or why granny doesn't talk to me.
To answere your question, no, not really.
Long story short, brother in law was in jail and wanted pics of our kids. we said no and told her not to send either. she sent them anyway and when my husband called to say something to her about it, he talked to his dad and he got all mad about us not wanting pics of our kids in jail. they did not call us, talk to us, see our kids for 6 months. Then want to pretend like nothing ever happened (with my husband) when they came for a b-day party in Nov. This was the first time we saw them and she gave me a complete attitude, did not speak to me, turned her back to me everytime I said anything.
anyone have cheerleader daughters? sm
my 15yo is trying out next week. she was cheerleader on little league squads, but hasn't been in jr. high and now trying out for varsity. they have to make up their own cheer. any ideas? i've been searching the net just for some ideas and everything is just the same ole, same ole. FYI, not trying to copy but just get some ideas to make the brain flow for me/her to try to put somethign together. she needs something different and unique to make her stand out since she is up against lots of cheerleaders that have been on the squad for years. something short, with a jump or two in it. HELP please!!!
my 19 and 21 year old daughters sm
wore a size 4 shoe since they were 12. It is hard for them to get grown up looking shoes. They are about 5 feet. They would love to have bigger feet. They take after my mother in law who was a size 4 her whole life.
puberty/daughters
There are many variations of menarche and the menstrual cycle that are considered "normal" from one female to another. For instance, my daughter, who is now 15, had her menarche at age 10; however, it was very light, brief, and definitely not from month-to-month. She developed early, is very tall (5ཆ"), and is of medium-to-slender build. She now has regular cycles, albeit on the "long" side, of approximately 36-40 days. She has played soccer and basketball.
They say that sometimes the daughter's OB/GYN history will follow that of the mother - but not always. I was on the track team in high school, was always very active with school, chorus, and band, but my body type was very thin and tiny. I weighed less than 95 pounds in my senior year. I am currently in my early 40s and weigh about 112 pounds (two pregnancies, with nine and ten-pound babies - no gestational diabetes) and am 5ƈ". I did not reach menarche until about the age of 15, but my cycles are short, about 26 days.
Just as with babies and potty training, for example, as long as there is no pain, sharp or otherwise, no passing large clots, fever, etc., I'm sure all will be well. It (puberty with fruition of regular menses) is "gearing up" in a sense. In fact, before my daughter's very first period, red blood cells were detected on a routine urine culture. The pediatrician knew right away that menarche was pending; sure enough, it happened within a couple of weeks.
btw, with your attitude, if you have daughters
I'd be willing to bet they would have an abortion behind your back rather than suffer your judgment by having a baby at a young age or out of wedlock. Would that feel good on your conscience? You could be missing out on the joy of grandbabies!
Thanks for this info. My 2 daughters and
I just bought a batch of 6 each. Thanks again.
but that is not you daughters fault sm
that you had such a horrible life. I feel for you. I too had a pretty rough childhood but no way would I even think to make one of my kids pay for that. Sounds like you need some serious counseling or you are going to be one miserable lonely old lady.
Two daughters go back next Wednesday
Two days after Labor Day. One starting 8th grade at a the Junior High and one starting preschool. I'm in NY.
As the mother of two young daughters
one who got pregnant with her loser boyfriend at 20 - I can only send hugs and more hugs. No amount of talking did any good - she knew better and was making some kind of statement to us and she got pregnant still thought she was a smarty pants - they then split up, she met someone else, immedately became engaged, planned a wedding and got PG again before wedding. It has only been 18 months since the wedding but she knows she rushed through everything, has regrets but has learned lessons. I would just push contraception, I would let her know how disappointed you are - you have a right to your feelings - support her in other ways if you can and try not to let it ruin your relationship. She is due for a huge fall but they somehow need to experience this. I am so sorry!!
Amen! My daughters and I do laugh
about this now. I went through this twice. The first daughter was not as bad as the second daughter. They were six years apart so I did get kind of a break. Believe, me this phase does pass.
Our two daughters "came out" a year or so ago...
and it wasn't really a shock. I had already suspected it when they were wearing rainbow stuff, even had a rainbow dental retainer, but my husband just didn't want to believe and stated that everyone likes rainbows and that didn't mean anything LOL. Our children were afraid of our reaction so that is why they delayed telling us. I wish they would have realized a long time ago that if they were purple, polka-dot or whatever they chose to be, we love them the same. One of them is still unsure of her sexuality so we just stay supportive while she finds her own identity etc. My husband's daughter who came out was afraid to tell her maternal grandparents, and when she did, she got the reaction she expected, total abandonment and was told to never discuss her life with them at all. That is very sad to me. We continue to support and love them and keep an open mind when we have met their "partners." I will admit at first I was sad because at some point you realize all the dreams you have for your child are gone as in getting married, having children etc.. but I soon realized that this can still happen, just not in the tradition way. Love is unconditional. That's my thought.
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