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Ms. Manners, maybe you need to come up with the times and realize that not everything in this world

Posted By: stays the same. This isn't Pleasantville (sm) on 2007-03-05
In Reply to: Society is getting too tolerant! - Ms. Etiquette

anymore, but people do what they do to be happy in this world.  You should try it, you might like it.


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Whatever happened to MANNERS?!
I think it is extremely rude to bring your pet into shopping malls/stores! Just like I also believe that children should be taught to behave well while in stores! What is wrong with people, why on earth would anyone ever think it's okay to bring an ANIMAL inside a store?? Of course I also think it's insane to treat an ANIMAL like a baby! Some of you people really need to wake up and realize that this "precious little baby" is NOT a baby, it's a little creature that licks its private parts!! And for those of you crazy people that posted down below, I'm a perfectly happy person and actually like most dogs, but I again I think it's extremely rude to subject other people to my pets.
And you were not taught manners
growing up - so rude.....Your post sounds like the wedding gift receipt I got which was also rude - the couple already had a thank you printed out- I took the time to get them 1 - they should have the decency to write a quick note- to have printed was not the way I was brought up.
Miss Manners, you got it going on!
Just irritates me no end reading these no sense of etiquette posts. Pay for anothers honeymoon? Here is 1 person who would not give $. If you can get an invite to someone to try and shake them down for a gift, then get thank you note to the shooken one. Oh, by the way, don’t need the correct grammer police, just spoofing on this board but not about manners- they really never go out of style and same through the years. It is only people who don’t have enough sense to get in out of the rain that makes their owns. Still tacky.
I disagree, it is bad manners to just drop in - sm
now if you have friends that you have that open door policy with fine, but most people prefer warning so they can do a quick house clean/pick up, or have the opportunity to say no, now is not a good time. My mom always taught me to (1) wait to be invited over to someone's house and not invite yourself over there, (2) call before visiting someone. I like to be called first since our house is usually messy and this allows me time to put things away and clean up some. At my one neighbor's friends in the summer people descend upon their house every Friday night, it is crazy, eat all their food and drink all their beer, she has had it. She doesn't mind now and then but this is a regular thing. She's a direct type of person too but she doesn't want to come off rude and tell them all to get lost either. We only go down when asked and we are pretty good friends probably because of it.
People have no manners today when it comes to -sm
parties. For any of my kid's B-day parties in the past I have had to track down at least half of the parents (5/10) to see if their kid was coming. Even for my wedding a few did not even bother to RSVP (luckily they did not come as I did not included them in my head count); and had 3 say they'd be there and did not show (1 was my husband's boss too, didn't even get him a wedding gift either and they had worked together for 20 years). -----------unless the RSVP says "Regrets only" the recepient should call to advise you if they will be able to come or not.
i swear sometimes i wonder how people have NO manners
it's really weird to me you know... just the common courtesy of some people is GONE, or never there in the first place.
Also what happened to please and thank you ?!!
Your mother has some nerve and if she knew manners
she would know basically it is NOT her wedding, basically she has NOTHING to do with it and should keep her nose out of it. You or someone else needs to clue her in on where she stands, no where basically. Does she have some mental issues? If she put up that much fuss, I probably would disinvite her to the wedding and I am not playing. Don’t be spineless, tell her...
Who teaches these well adjusted kids manners? NM
xx
It's just good manners to send a card, sm
if only to acknowledge in writing a person's loss.
Oh, please! End times! People have been saying that since the beginning times!
It's just sensationalism. It seems that journalism has gone to a warm place in a handbasket. I briefly majored in journalism back in 1980, and what passes for journalism now would have flunked any of us right our of an entry-level course! It's all sensational reporting, because networks think that brings in the viewers, and thus drives up the advertising price that they can charge during broadcasts.
Another of my pet peeves in "journalism" is the phrase "Unconfirmed sources say . . . " Yeah. Right. Unconfirmed sources is just another way of saying, "Rumor has it . . . "
Next time there is breaking news, listen for it. It's said over and over again, because the networks and stations want to get the news out first. I don't know what happened to fact-checking and pursuit of the truth in journalism, but it's all about getting info out fast, and keeping the public tuned in with the most sensational reports that they can put out there.
Back in the days of the Roman Empire, people were treating each other pretty badly and in unbelievable ways, too. Crucifixion comes to mind. So, I don't really think modern news reports are pointing to end times any more than at any other time in recorded history.


Maybe they do, and you just don't realize that's what it is??
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Of course I realize that, but
Nonetheless, she looked great! I was surprised to see her showing off her "new body", but looks like maybe just a hoax? Whatta waste of a lives these young Hollywood's are...
I think you need to realize
your feelings are about a fantasy, not about a real relationship.  He himself has already given you information that when it is over it is over. He obviously does not share your feelings.  He can treat you very well but it is e-mail.  In real life he has gas, stinky feet, cranky moods like everyone. Older men and younger women is a dangerous situation.  They enjoy your adoration but don't return it. It is difficult but the longer you go the more you will be hurt and the more of your life you will waste on a fantasy.  Remember when you had a crush on a celebrity when you were a young teen and felt like it was true love and would never end?  It is about the same thing.  I don't judge you -- I have had experiences that I look back on now and see what time I wasted and regret that I could have focused on other things in my life. I hope you don't do the same.  
So, what if you realize you

have an unstable dog, but you realize it because the first unprovoked attack was a deadly one?  Too late. 


I think you are being irresponsible if you ever let anyone step foot in your house if it causes your dog to feel anxious.  You are tempting fate, my friend.


I would not even realize if it were my
DH but the OP is having a problem with it, she probably thinks he is talking with someone he does not want her to know about, that is the problem.
Wow, I didn't realize
Just how lucky I was. My husband bought me wonderful Christmas presents everything that I could definitely use and want. He's a wonderful person and helps with the cooking, cleaning, washing clothes, doing just about anything and everything around the house. I couldn't ask for someone better. I didn't realize just how much I had until I read some of these posts.
Maybe they realize their matriarch has gone

Its usually the case that "grandma" keeps the extended family together.  It happened when my grandma died, and will happen again on a smaller scale when my mother dies.  She's the one they all kept in contact with, the one that knew where everybody went and what they're up to.  Talking to her you got to hear about the whole family (whether you felt like it or not).  So now she's gone, people will drift off, lose touch, stop having big family gatherings with her at the center.  Kiss half your cousins goodbye, because by the next funeral, nobody will know how to get in touch with them any more.  I'd say they're mourning for the family in general, because things will probably never be the same again with the center gone.


I didn't realize that either!
Guess I assumed when wal-mart stopped so would everyone else. Well, for now I will still boycott K-mart but when it gets closer I will go there for some kids toys and that's probably it.
I realize you just can't back off now.
Carefree & happy? Relatively speaking, sure. But "proud" isn't how I would describe feeling about that.

I've done plenty of therapy in my life, thanks, but it was unrelated to the above issue.

If you stop attacking me publicly now, you will just lose too much face, so go ahead, take your best shot. After this last post I wondered: What would make this person satisfied? That I be bent & suffering with remorse & guilt? Would you feel better then? Sorry, but it just doesn't work that way. I simply feel okay about my past, so I can't help you there. I suppose there is nothing I can do to make you feel better. I think you should work on feeling more forgiving of yourself for decisions you've made in your past, & then you will not feel the need to attack others for the mistakes you yourself have made.

I hope this gives you more than just a giggle, & rather than pollute the board with any more of your mouthings, I'd rather have you contact me directly at my e-mail address if you really think there is more you need to get off your chest. But I doubt you will do this because of the element of performance there is to your posts, & I doubt it will help because I would just be a substitute for you. At any rate, you are welcome to e-mail me.
I think it is important to realize that...
the world does not revolve around us. If there is not a huge amount of fighting or abuse of some sort, why should she deprive her children of their father. Often, I think children say what their parents want to hear about the other parent. My 33-year-old brother still does. There are worse things than waking up and going to bed with a person whom you do not love. And - I bet that if she tried, she could still find something she does love about him. I really think that society has made divorce to acceptable. There is just no incentive to stick it out through the tough times that everyone has.
That is good that you realize that though...
some people don't realize that until after they have kids and then their children suffer because of it...Good for you for not wanting to bring a child into the world knowing it may have special needs as well...I applaud that...I love my two children but definitely do not want any more--lol
After reading all of these posts, I realize
How lucky I am!

My ex, and my hubby's ex, were both people who always needed to be in a crisis...and if there was none, they'd create it.

Luckily, after we'd both divorced we found each other. We have a peaceful life, and my inlaws and his inlaws are all great people and it's a joy and great fun when we get together.

I give thanks to God for my good fortune!
Sorry, didn't realize she used that name. My apologies.
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It sounds like he just doesn't realize sm
that you would love for him to call you first. I don't care how many hints you drop, men just don't realize certain things unless we flat out tell them. Have been married almost 20 years to a wonderful man, but sometimes he still just doesn't get it. It is very true that "we learned everything we needed to know in kindergarten, boys are st*pid" LOL
ok, sorry-I didn't realize you don't work for them...

You do realize that with Katrina damage

At least in Mississippi and Lousiana part....they may have rebuilt some hotels but the surrounding locality looks like a war zone; most of the boat docks and walking/fishing piers were completely destroyed and probably haven't been rebuilt, and many of the cute local beach restaurants are gone.  It might be educational re Katrina damage if that's what you're after...but it's not what I'd call a happy place to vacation at this time.


To GF: Do you realize that the all caps is yelling?
I think you should realize that first before you get upset with everyone here.

You are yelling through your all cap typing.


guess I didn't realize they were that
much bigger - definitely have not had one then.  I have read several articles about the nuthatches saying that they are occasional visitors very far south but this year reports are that there are large groups going way out of there range - apparently conifer forests didn't do well in the north.  My little slate colored juncos (snow birds) are here with the snow flurries this morning.
You're right.... kids have to realize they have....sm
to be responsible and adults shouldn't be held to bail them out all of the time.

Why should an adult give up their money because a teenager was irresponsible?
I realize this is a private matter, but

is there someone close to the both of you that could be present when you tell him.  Ordinarily, I would recommend meeting him in a public place, but in this case, since it is a financial affair, I wouldn't recommend that.  However, if there is someone you are both close to, perhaps you could have them present (even if only in the other room) while you tell him. 


Another possibility may be to discuss this with your in-laws first.  Again, I wouldn't ordinarily recommend this, but they appear to already be involved in your financial matters since you borrowed the money from them for the car.  Depending on their reaction, perhaps you could all sit down together and they could help you work this out. 


If all else fails, call your attorney and schedule a meeting where he will mediate.  I would not tell this man alone in person.  It doesn't sound like a safe thing to do.


I didn't realize K Mart still had Lay away!
I always loved Lay Away. You could shop and know you got what you needed and save up for it. Yes, the year Walmart did away with Lay away everybody around these parts were really upset. Most people who do lay away do so so they can use cash and not credit. Uggg. Credit. Wish I never heard of a credit card. But that's another story for another day. LOL.
Maybe they had so many kids they didn't realize til now he was gone
What is wrong with people. You have a missing kid you report it!

Reminds me of that movie Home alone.
She was a stray. I did not realize she did not belong to anyone

until after she was pregnant.  We adopted her or she adopted us.  I do plan on getting her fixed. 


Wow. I didn't realize the response I was going to receive. Let me all tell you a little sm
something about me (for a change).

I am a very intimate, romantic, sexual (close your eyes if this is offensive), kind of gal. Seriously. My mother always told me I was a "hopeless romantic!" One of my favorite movies is Pretty Woman, for crying out loud. For years, I would shop in the lingerie dept. at various dept. stores, even buying things from Victoria's Secret, mind you. But if there is one thing my husband has done to me over the years is help me to completely lose interest in intimacy and now, sex. He doesn't listen to me, doesn't compliment me, doesn't touch me at all during the day. It's saddened me so much over the past few years. If we meet up after work he'll just go on about his business, not reaching to give me a kiss, ask me about my day, nothing.

The fact that he approached me the other night was actually surprising. Yes, he's trying. But what is a woman to do when after so many years of neglect? Jump at him? Tackle him? I can't. I simply can't. I'm suffering from low self worth as it is due to his lack of communicating any kind of affection or concern to me. I don't know how to gain it back. I don't know how to get back that spark. It's not there. It saddens me so much, but it's true.
So, give me a little more credit.
I didn't realize I started the same as the topic below - nm
haha
forgive me-I didn't realize you were the grandparent!

  but I also think you, as a grandparent, can supply all the info to CS....my situation was entirely different and I'm sorry I didn't realize you were the grandparent before I posted...


 


And God Bless you for taking responsibility for your grandkids, my parents would have done zippo!!     


Exactly. Plus, don't people realize that Texas is weird?
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didn't realize this problem was so rampant!
my mom would not have been able to survive had my dad not paid child support for all of us kids when they were divorced. out of the seven of us, four were still at home when they divorced. when it got down to just me and my mom (i'm the youngest), that child support paid most of our bills. my dad was in the air force though so i'm sure they wouldn't have let him get away with not paying.

my transient brother is 33 and has several children in different states. he was married once, never sees those three kids and just had his $3000 tax refund garnished to pay arrears for them. i bet his ex was happy to receive that fat check! i don't know how old his other children are but he just had one with a girlfriend this past october (i worry about that little boy every single day and probably will for the rest of my life) and has run out on them too. i imagine the support he owes is in the tens of thousands. he moves from state to state and from job to job to avoid having to pay.

my first daughter's sperm donor was a rapist who was never caught. while that in itself sucks, i am so glad i don't have to deal with child support and custody battles. i've managed to make it through without having to deal with all that, and my husband is the only father my little girl will ever know.
Sometimes people don't realize how important the little things are...
Until they go through a loss themselves. Last year I lost my father and cherished every card I received. At the same time, I also felt terrible about the times I had neglected to send a card to someone else. I had thought at the time they were inadequate and probably unnoticed until I was going through it myself. Now I realize how important they are.

Don't be too hard on your friends and co-workers. One day they'll likely feel remorseful, as I do.

Gosh, I didn't realize it was December 15th already. Thanks. nm
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Gosh, these posts make me realize how much I love
He does none of what has been talked about here. I am blessed beyond measure...
What's funny is that for a long time I did not realize it was all abuse (sm)
I knew the physical part was abuse. Other than that I thought he was a jerk, quirky ideas about things, a hard-nose, hard-headed, rude...but I never realized it was all abuse until I finally started reading up on it. Apparently in these situations we start to accept things little by little as being normal. Like slowly boiling before you realize you're done.
Maybe the teacher doesn't realize his boyfriend and not dad? I would inform her immediately! sm
Does your boyfriend live there? Have you been together a long time? If not, he is way overstepping his bounds and I would immediately put a stop to it.
Not in my world
Unfortunately, my divorce was nasty, ugly, hateful and I wouldn't want to ever go through that again.
Cut off from the world
I know what you mean.  I have been working from home for 5 years now and I do miss being around people but I don't miss office politics one bit either.
Third world?
nm
Where in the world have you been?
They have excellent swimming (not the pools) but man-made beaches there and you can get hopper pass and go to those beaches just like you can visit Tomorrow Land, MGM or whatever. You apparently don’t know about the other places available to customers.
It probably comes from anywhere in the world, but - sm
I hear that a LOT of it comes from S. Africa, Philippines, Singapore, etc. Could be coming from next-door, too. You just never know. It's so frustrating because even though I have a 'Report Spam' feature on my e-mail, and I report & then delete these several times a day, they keep reappearing. All they have to do is slightly change the spelling or the word-arrangement, and it's back again. The latest ones I'm getting are about 'Replica' watches and 'Rolex' watches. The only watch I have, I never wear, and I didn't buy it online or with a credit card, I paid $10 cash for it at Wal-Mart.

Anyway, I think they're looking for more than just 'sales' - I never open those up, but fear that even moving them from my bulk mail folder to my incoming mail folder to report them as Spam is somehow registering my e-mail addressing with someone, somewhere. Haha -- Maybe we should all flood those addresses with Spam e-mails offering to sell them 'beach-front' property in Kansas!
;D
Why in the world would you ever think
others might think these protesters were Christians? I think most humans have the intelligence to tell the difference between 1 or the other. I am sure most all know her name, Eve as this was a story not just in North Carolina but nationwise and probably global as well.
it's a mad mad world
Well going from a very very nice pay check to $0 is very very hard. In all fairness to him the contract he worked on ended. We were living in an area at that time that was in a depression. So we moved out of the area (after one to two years of being unemployed), I got work he didn't, we moved again I got work again and he didn't, two more times we moved to areas where I could get work and he couldn't. He wants to get work but everytime he applies for something they tell him he's over qualified. We live in a very small town (under 10K people) and what he has his experience in we would have to move to the nearest town which is about a 4 hour drive to get the type of work he's done in the past. Which means that whatever he would make would be paid out in higher rent, gas, etc, etc. (not to include the cost of 3 large (24-foot) moving trucks to move all our stuff). So, we've just got to put our "noggins" together to try and figure something out. But I am getting tired of talking every 3 or 4 hours about it and the changing of his mind with I'm going to do this, then that, then this, then back to that again, then something new, then that again. What's that quote from the movie - "I'm mad as he!! and I'm not going to take it anymore". HA HA
What's up with the world anyway?
I think it is sad and disgusting that creatures eat each other ... what kind of a plan is that?!!?