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Of course they will listen. Mental abuse is extremely prevalent

Posted By: HolidayMT on 2007-12-31
In Reply to: Thank you...do you really think they will listen to me (sm) - OP

and the abuse counselor will tell you the cycle of violence, here's an example you may recognize from him: First there is grumbling or little comments that demean you. You question yourself because he just seems to be "trying to help you," then, there is using finances, threats to take things away including children, controlling who you see, where you go, even what you think, then when you voice an opinion the violence. Starts out verbal. Will definitely lead to physical some day. He will also try the "crazy making," If you know the moon is blue for example, he will say it is green cheese, and then make you feel like you are the crazy one. You will question your reality and the truth that the moon is blue. You will become confused.
Then, a gift will appear, some form of kindness from him. You will forgive him figuring you were wrong, maybe it was you, maybe he will change, or whatever. You give in to him. Then it starts all over again, the grumbling. It is like clockwork. This is a proven fact with abusers. These people never change. A minute percentage do seek counseling, but the control they desire is too rooted in their being and their identity. They feed off of this control. Once the person they control is gone for good, they will seek someone else out.
Mental violence is a crime. Stalking is not just physical for example, phone calls, constant badgering when you say no, or say stop treating me this way, this is violence. I could go on about it, but please call the hotline and forgive me for being wordy here. Make that call and all will fall into place.


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Very prevalent in my family...

My mom under 5 feet and 100 lbs, and she is on 4 meds to control her BP, and my older, physically active brother also takes BP meds.  Too many secondary family members with it to mention.  Mine, so far, is dependent on my weight:  Under 140 lbs and the BP is normal. 


PAMT-MD, my condolences for the loss of your father.  That is how I lost my dad, too, way too many years ago. 


absolutely. its a disease, and a super prevalent one also.
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I'm sure there must be a mental problem - (SM)
She may have been just fine last summer when she made her last NASA space flight. But things can take a turn suddenly. She may already have a problem like OCD or depression that she was on meds for, and suddenly gone off them, or else the "love triangle" thing might have been stronger than the meds. So many different possibilities. Look at her "before" and "after" pictures. She almost looks like she's on crack or heroin in that mug shot. Could be hooked on painkillers, uppers, or ? I'm trying not to rush to judgement, but I also wonder why someone would throw away such a seemingly charmed life. But when a person is having a mental problem, they often can't see through all the "noise" in their head, and can't weigh consequences. Anyway, it's a shame, but how lucky for the woman she was after, that she wasn't thinking clearly enough to actually get the job done.
mental aspect also
figure out who is a pain in your butt! Sometimes it is referred pain!
…Had nothing to do with mental incompetence
Fraud yes but how do we not know the above is not verging on the same?
I really think there is a mental issue going on
She is actually quite a bit older than us. I am in my late 20s and my husband is in his mid-30s and this woman is 50. We met her years ago when we used to work together.

She wouldn't tell us exactly why she lost her job and was very, very vague in the details. I have a feeling that there is more going on than she would reveal to us, but I really don't even care at this point.

I honestly do believe that her husband is caught right in the middle of all of this, esepcially since we haven't heard a single word from him in weeks. She was very, very nasty in her email that she sent, which included several personal attacks, all of which were completely untrue accusations.

This is a direct quote from her email that she sent today:
"i should not be surprised because u dont take care of ur own financial commitments either and often get in over your head. If you had gotten urself into a mess financially i would have helped you out because we were friends, i now expect that you can deliver the money you owe us over here at the soonest possible time."

The woman can't even spell! Also, she doesn't know anything about our finances. We own a house, 2 cars, always work LOTS of extra hours, and always pay our bills. For her to say that is absolutely insane. She is just in such a desperate state and is beyond frustrated because we refuse to pay her anything.

Oh, and she even said in her email that we owed him $456!!! Where did that amount come from?!?! Yesterday it was $300, which was still outragenous!

Sorry for the long vent...again! LOL
I think I really am going mental w/isolation thing.

I guess it's an occupational hazard, isn't it?  I have these bouts where I just withdraw and don't want nuttin' to do with no one--sometimes for weeks a a time, then I get almost manic and freeze up physically and mentally, which can last for days, and then one day I'm happy as a clam and glad to be alive...then the cycle repeats.


I'm geographically isolated anyway but this 'career' is just mentally crippling when you are a person who needs to be forced to get up and out anyway or else they might sink into a depression, ya know?


I'm actually starting to get mild panic attacks if I have to drive anywhere--how f'd up is that?!  This not where I had planned to be at this time of my life--or ever for that matter!  Serious midlife cris going on here in my head, so, yeah you're not alone. 


If there were more opportunities in my neck of the woods, I would so be out of this business.  But, alas, if I leave it's a MAJOR step backwards and I won't do that. You know what though, now that I'm thinking about it....I am a halfway decent cook, and did okay in chemistry class, and there sure are a lot of folks strung out on meth 'round these parts.  I'm thinkin' maybe I should open up a meth lab and go into business for myself!  It sure would get me back in touch 'with the people!'



this has been extremely trying on all fronts-
she always had a DD - and I asked her if she did not that night - she did - but she only had 1 beer and assumed she was okay - but the cops sit outside the bar and watched her - and unfortunately she is gorgeous and I am sure that is part of the reason he decided to follow her.  He just pulled her over without any infraction.  I think most of us assume that 1 drink is okay but she is very tiny and she learned the hard way that it wasn't the case.  Taking away licenses doesn't prevent the chronic offenders or chronic alcoholics from driving again because they really don't care.  Since I have done trauma and pain management transcription I am quite aware that a very high percentage of people driving are under the influence - frightening!   
I use it for extremely dry skin -
have a spray of it that I use on my arms legs, feet right after a shower when still a little damp, and I love it. It helps more than several lotions.
She is extremely needy.
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IMO. she's extremely attractive, but....sm
She's fixing to have the majority of Americans come down on her like white on rice for that little error. :D :D
how do I access the mental health page?
I just came across it a few seconds ago.  Thanks!
Check out the mental health board
:)
obviously you don't have a personal experience with mental illness
she is very sick and she needs help, which I am hoping she is getting. Mental illness is like any other disease, cancer, diabetes, etc., but there is a horrid stigma attatched to it. She can't help being sick just like anyone else can't help having cancer. It's called a chemical imbalance...when will people realize this is just as real and the affected can't help it or just "get over it"???
Ways to maintain mental health...

Hope these make someone laugh...  Makes me wish I worked in an office away from home sometimes...


Ways To Maintain Mental Health

1.  At lunch time, sit in your parked car with sunglasses on and point a hair dryer at passing cars.  see if they slow down. 

2.  Page yourself over the intercom.  Don't disguise your voice.

3.  Every time someone asks you to do something, ask if they want fries with that.

4.  Put your garbage can on your desk and label it "In."

5.  Put decaf in the coffee maker for 3 weeks.  Once everyone has gotten over their caffeine addictions, switch to espresso.


6.  In the memo field of all your checks, write "For sexual favors." (I actually do this one!)
 
7.  Finish all your sentences with "In accordance with The Prophecy."

8.  Don't use any punctuation

9.  As often as possible, skip rather than walk.

10.  Ask people what sex they are.  Laugh hysterically after they answer. 

11.  Specify that your drive-through order is "To Go."

12.  Sing along at the opera.

13.  Go to a poetry recital and ask why the poems don't rhyme.
 
14.  Put mosquito netting around your work area and play tropical sounds all day.

15.  Five days in advance, tell your friends you can't attend their party
because you're not in the mood.

16.  Have your co-workers address you by your wrestling name, "Rock Hard."

17. When the money comes out of the ATM, scream "I Won!, I Won!" 

18.  When leaving the zoo, start running towards the parking lot, yelling "Run for your lives, they're loose!!"

19.  Tell your children over dinner. "Due to the economy,   we are going to have to let one of you go."

20.  Share this with someone else... its called therapy.


Question regarding mental retardation and other issues

My sister adopted a boy back in 1989 when he was just about a year old (from Paraguay).  He's now 19 years old and she said he is awful and getting worse and worse.  She said he's horrible to be around and it's getting to a point where she doesn't want to be around him anymore.  He was diagnosed before he ever went into grade school with mental retardation.  Through the years my mom and sister were always defensive about it telling people that's he's not retarded, he's "special".  Anyway....here it is 19 years later and he is getting worse and worse.  Sis just called me from Maine on her last day of vacation and said he's the worst he's ever been.  She said he has mood swings, happy one second miserable another.  He won't let anyone touch the remote control and all week they had to watch what he wanted otherwise they were in screaming matches in the room.  Whenever there is a thunder or lightening storm (which on the east coast is a monthly occurrence) he goes absolutely nuts...meaning, he runs around their house screaming at the top of his lungs "make it stop, make it stop" "tell God I'll day anything he wants, just make it stop", then he runs around banging his head against the wall (btw - it rained every day they were on vacation).  I went back 2 years ago and one night it started raining.  Actually it hadn't even started raining, there were some dark clouds in the distance.  I was woken up early early that morning (bout 4 am) to the sound of screaming.  My bedroom was on the first floor and they all were upstairs (they live in a 2 story colonial home).  Anyway...I kept hearing screaming and screaming and I thought something happened to one of them so I yelled up to make sure they were all okay.  Sis yells down that there are some dark clouds in the distance and she's yelling at my nephew to knock it off, it's not raining or anything.  He's running around yelling "make it stop, I can't take it".  I fell back asleep only to be woken by my nephew standing at the side of my bed saying "I can't help it, I can't help it.  It's not my fault" and his hands were clenched in fists.  Then he started hitting punching himself in the head.  I could hear my sis and her husband talking upstairs so knew they were okay, but all I could picture was him standing over them with a knife after he's slashed them then stand there like that saying I couldn't help it, it wasn't my fault, I couldn't control myself.  He's a very huge kid (340 pounds) - and he keeps telling them he is not overweight, he is muscular.  Anyway...to make a long story short years ago they brought someone to the house to try and find out what's going on with the storm thing and nobody helped them.  I kept telling her he may need to be on medication, but they had no health insurance so never did anything about it.  This morning she called me and said she is going to have some counselers from her church (she's mormon and said they have professional counselors there) evaluate him when they get back from vacation.  She said they charge but not as much as regular ones (outside their church - they charge according to what you can afford).  Anyway...she said he is horrible horrible horrible, and she called him a little pri*k.  She said even her husband said to her "you and Dan don't get along".  She said he won't listen to her, said he's 19 and he can do whatever he wants and he won't listen to them.  They were giving him $50 a day allowance while on vacation this past week and he would demand it every morning before they had a chance to get out of bed.  She said they would hide their wallets after he fell asleep because he just goes in and steels money from them.  I asked her if I heard that right.  I said $50 a day?  I said if she held back his allowance for 3 days that would have paid for an hour of counseling.  She said to me I don't know what I'm going to do it they tell me he's bipolar or ADHD or whatever and needs medication.  I said would you rather have him diagnosed and on medication or know that he has something he needs medication for and he's deprived of it.  I said it's going to just get worse and worse if they don't treat it (whatever the illness is) and for her and her husbands sanity she's got to do something.  Sis turned 50 this year and her husband is 64.  I said this is not what they need at this time of their lives.  Also, last October they adopted a little girl from China (she's just two years old and she's okay and is not handicapped), but she said this week it was like Dan was competing with her.  She would get a happy meal at McD's and he would have to have one too, amongst other things he did.  At one time this week they asked him if he was upset because they adopted the girl and he said no.  They asked what the problem was and he said nothing, leave me alone.  My BIL seems to think that maybe Dan realizes that he's not going to go anywhere in life and is depressed.  I just told her either way, she has got to get some help for him because he could get worse and worse.  Once I told her that I was worried about the safety of she and her husband if they didn't get their son the treatment he needs, but she blew it off and said no, that her son is deathly afraid of her (he may be 340 pounds, but sis is 260 pounds - not as big but he backs down if she comes after him). 


Anyway...I don't know how much stronger I can emphasize to them that they need to get help.  Sis has talked about some day comeing out for a visit and hanging out at our place, but there is no way in you know where my DH would allow that.  I am very intolerable of my nephew.  When I go back to visit her he gets on my nerves something really bad.  The thing is he does things on purpose to urk them and then he'll look at me and laugh about it, so I know he knows what he is doing wrong.  But I get him back because I tattle on him to his parents.  HA HA - Okay, I'm bad.  But after being around him for about 15 minutes is enough for me.  There is nothing that is nice about that kid.  I've been around a lot of other retarded kids, kids with down syndrome and they are nothing like Dan.  I love them dearly and they are the nicest kids (sometimes better well behaved than kids without disabilities).  Anyway...because I know I can't take more than 15 minutes or so with him my DH is way less tolerant than I am and he has no interest in seeing him at all, let alone having him come to our place.  Nephew also has a bowel problem and goes to the bathroom in his pants often, so that woudn't work either. 


Anyway...don't know if anyone has anything to add to my post on what I can tell my sis.  Always afraid of saying the wrong thing to her.  Anyway...just had to vent about that.  I do hope they get him some help but not sure if they will (it's been 16 years since they should have first gotten him help.


That is an extremely fair pay and I would expect
them to do a great job for that. I have had the same problem with them starting out good and then having to go behind them like you said. I would first start out clearly stating what you want done and that you expect a good job consistently, even 6 months down the line. That is what I've been telling everyone I've talked to is that I need a consistent job each time.
Extremely weird and maybe disturbing to some,,,,,
I used to have a dog that masturbated.  No joke. Not seen anything like it since.
Not sure where to post...extremely complicated...

OK - this is going to be a shocker post, but if I went too much into detail, I would be here for a day-and-a-half - my main question is this - does anyone know why a 7-year-old little boy would be wetting his bed every single night?  All I can think is abuse and have researched it and know there are other reasons possible, but given the situation, again, all I can think is abuse...


This is a REALLY messed up family:


The situation is my sister-in-law has been incarcerated for hiring someone to kill her husband.  She has 7 children, 2 children out on their own, and 5 minor children that have been split up between family members.  The youngest is the 7-year-old that I mentioned above.  He was born out of wedlock and her husband adopted him when he was 5.  Her husband is an alcoholic - a bad one. 


Her husband did not die but called 911 and got help.  He is out of the hospital now and has had regular visitation with my 7-year-old nephew.  The husband and his family members, who he has been staying with, claim that he is not drinking and they have a "no tolerance" policy in their home, but now he wants to keep my nephew and live with him in the house where he was attacked, just the two of them. 


My other sister-in-law has had this little boy since this incident happened and stated that he wets his bed every single night.  Without fail.  He just turned 7 this month.  I have his 2 half-sisters in my home, and they told me that he has been doing this for as long as they can remember.  They are 10 and 11.


I am sorry if this post is disjointed and does not make sense.  The bottom line here is I am suspecting something really bad and I wanted to get some opinions.  Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with nocturnal enuresis in a child that age?  Should I be worried??  He wants to take this boy from now on and have him live with him, and we really don't know what we can do about it!  I just have a really bad feeling...Thanks.


If you came out in 1975, that had to be extremely difficult - sm
for you. I know that had to take a lot of courage and strength on your part. Good for you.

I can never put myself in someone else's shoes but I can speak as a mother and a friend. The stigma that goes with the word "gay" needs to just disappear. It's getting better but has a long way to go.

When my son came out, I explained to him that like anything else outside the "normal" is going to take some time for people to really accept. Fortunately, there are many people who already do accept the lifestyle, even if isn't one they share.

We accept it because we love the people for who they are, not how they live.

Good for you. No condemnation from me.
We had an extremely close call...twice
One night our family went for a walk our neighborhood. DD had our Maltese on a leash and DS has our Jack Russel on a leash. It was just turning to dusk and a car was coming up behind us. Our neighborhood is a housing development so there are no sidewalks. We separated DH and DD went to one side of the road and DS and I went to the other side. Well our maltese is attached to me at all times and didn't like being separated from me. She pulled so hard she broke the little metal ring on the harness and ran right in front of the car. The car wasn't going that fast but some how Casey ended up running out the back of the vehicle and straight home he was so scared. I was screaming, we raced home and there he set on our front porch with a tiny little cut on top of his head. The people in the car did stop and then came to our house to check on him.

The next scare was even worse. Took both dogs to the vet and DD was taking them to the car while I was paying the bill. She ran back inside and said Lilly (the Jack Russell) got loose. I ran out the door as Casey was running back inside (looking for me). Well went spent 20 minutes running all over the neighborhood trying to find Lilly. Finally she had run in someones garage and when they realized what was happening shut the garage door and then let us in their front door so we could get her. Thanks heavens there are real animal lovers out there.
I know someone who had a procedure because it became extremely painful -nm
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Come on, Ella, extremely attractive?. How and where?...nm
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What an extremely tacky and insensitive
x
FYI -- she had an extremely good reason
to become addicted. Her doctor said her neck/spine is so damaged not many people would be walking around (multiple plates in her neck) and also the pain meds they had her on would knock out a 300-lb. man. Between dancing injuries and the plane crash she is in, she was in constant pain for a very very long time.
Mental health agencies have had funds depleted. There is no help
hhjklhlk
does anyone know how to access the mental health board on MT stars??

I know this isn't the right place to ask but have not received an answer anywhere else yet.  I came across it accidentally last evening when someone posted.  Thanks!


Needing A Mental/Emotional Jump Start
You good people are probably as good to ask as anybody although if we had a philosophy board, it might be better. My question is Why? Why are we killing ourselves? And I mean this in the broader sense than just the MT industry. I have an ex (46 years old) who is an alcoholic. He lives waaaaaaay out in a very rural area. He owns his own house, land, and a lot of horses, something he acquired 20 years ago when he had a really really good job. He has a regular income now of about $1000/month from CDs, primarily funded from an industrial accident about 10 years ago.

Anyway, neither he nor any of his friends work. They sit around, start drinking at noon and light their first joint, and just drink steadily until passing out around 2 AM. They play horseshoes, cribbage, shoot pool, shoot the breeze, joy ride, poach deer, etc. His house is kind of a dump (jiggle the toilet handle, turn on the tub water with pliers, no windows that open) and lots of projects undertaken while drunk, some done, many half finished. As they say, the Lord provides for fools and drunks, and that seems to be the case here, as he never goes hungry, has never had to do without his vices because of money, etc. Somehow, something always falls into his lap when he needs it, and I'm not talking $20...he'll rent a chunk of land to a farmer for several K and gets all caught up, or he sells some old fencing and gets a grand. He bought a couple of timeshares years and years ago so he takes these great vacations a couple of times a year where the lodging is only $150/week.

I had to leave because I just couldn't stand the lifestyle (I don't drink, smoke pot, or shoot pool), but I'm wondering why. I'm killing myself working 2 jobs to keep the roof over my head and maintain even a meager quality of life, and while I don't have the drunken projects he does, my house is no palace. If it weren't for my kids chipping in and helping, my car would have been reclaimed by the finance company a couple months ago.

So I'm having a hard time hanging on to my motivation lately. There's probably some jealousy involved, but it's also making me wonder why I bother. If I really wanted to, he would probably take me back and there are moments that I wonder 'Why not?'. What is wrong with the way he is living? Footloose and fancy free without a care in the world?

How do you find the strength/will to go on plugging away when it would be so easy to fall into the idiot/drunk category and just the Lord take care of everyday existence like he does for the ex?
You are either a troll, liar or extremely dysfunctional....
take your pick. Oh, and if true, please get spayed!
How about your mental health and wear & tear on your body??! Enuf
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link for Mental Health Board inside post

http://forum.mtstars.com/misc/b/8.html


it's located right here above our posts and under the words GAB BOARD


Many meds for depression and mental retardation make people very SM

heavy.  My friend has gained probably 75 pounds or more since being on some of the meds. Don't know quite why they contribute to weight loss, but one commercial some years ago said that it does something to the part of the brain that senses when you are full. . . . .  


I live on the East Coast where this is extremely common
for "older" women to be having babies. As long as you're healthy, I don't see it should be a problem. I was WAY too young when I had my daughter (19) and really wish I would have waited until I was in my 30s. The biggest problem I see here with women in their 40s having babies is that a lot of them are so focused on their careers that they don't spend enough time with their kids. I would think 39 would be okay, but you really are greatly increasing your risk of complications/birth defects if you wait much longer.
Yes!! I get extremely bored and have trouble staying focused on typing. sm
Some days I am so bored I dont know how I am going to get through the day!!
Have an extremely strong accent when speaking foreign languages,....nm
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I'd say yes they really did abuse
the 'emergency' but rather than contacting an attorney I would just try to recall where you might have given her contact information - call them and change ASAP and I would not even fill in that spot in the future citing your experience in these two situations and the problems it caused and if they fuss - give them a phoney name and addy and let it go.  I think it is there for your safety really, secondly for them to collect should you not pay a bill - I have only been called once in my 55 years as my son got behind on his credit union car payment and they traced me down through 3 counties - so think you definitely had an unusual experience.
Abuse

Call your local shelter and they will advise you on ways to leave safely. NEVER take abuse - physically, verbally, or mentally from anyone. Forget the church kid, learn to love yourself, and lead by example for your children. If you act like a doormat, do not be suprised when you get stepped on!


You need a long time on your own before you are ready to think about entering another relationship. You are not out of your present relationship yet, but you can be if that is your decision. Best wishes to you.


Lilly


I think it is abuse.
Take the poor doggy into your house. Your cat may hide, but my guess is the dog will ignore the cat. I got my Sheltie when I had 2 cats and they all got along just fine. Please don't leave this poor thing outside, especially if it hot in your area. If you cannot bring it in, call the authorities. It is kinder than leaving her out to suffer.
It is ABUSE!
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This IS animal abuse. Thankfully, in most states animal cruelty is becoming a felony. In my state (NY) it can be punishable up to $5000. Animal abandonment is also a felony with one year in jail and up to $1000 fine. Failure to provide proper nutrients is another law that seems to have been broken.

Our animals needs protection from the elements, proper food and water (and not just a bowl to catch rain water,either) They also need love and companionship, and by this I mean not regulated to the backyard to vegetate.

Animals can think....how do explain service dogs, search and rescue, and guide dogs? Have you ever seen a dog given a task to do and watch him/her go through the paces to get it done?

As I stated before, contact an area dog club to see if they have members willing to help, or if they know of a Sheltie rescue who can help. Contact your area vets for such phone numbers. Or, you can contact me and I'll see if I can locate a Sheltie rescue that can help.
Abuse

Your post makes me very sad. Your husband is abusive. Husbands and boyfriends come and go in our lives; however, family is ALWAYS family. Please seek counseling for yourself. You cannot change him. After you become stronger through counseling, you will see the situation clearly for what it is - abusive.


Call your sister and invite her for a visit. Better yet, get a plane ticket and go see her. Don't ask, just do it.


Best wishes.


Lilly


Abuse
Every county has a program for abused woman and children.  You do not have to be physically abused for them to help you.  Find out the name of the program near you, Domestic violence, Reach, etc.  You can call them and they will allow you to take your children and live in a house, the whereabouts is not known to anyone on the outside.  It is free and they are very caring.  You can start there and they will help see that you and your children are safe away from this maniac.  Good luck.
There's always abuse
of the system. Making it illegal doesn't stop that. There are a lot of drugs out there that are, in my opinion, worse than marijuana as far as addictive qualities and doctor's prescribe those drugs routinely and easily for things such as back pain which is not life threatening but can be debilitating. I think it would be much easier to hold standards to legal medical use marijuana than it would to criminalize alcohol and the numerous other prescription drugs that are out there and abused.
it's abuse duh
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Child abuse
That's your opinion - and pedofilia - obviously you did not BF or have a good bond with your children. Do you also consider it child abuse that I did not use disposable diapers? What about the fact that I worked as a wet nurse? Some things are just natural - You should read the book, The Family Bed - BF may be looked upon differently in the US - but that is only cultural - and I do not bend to cultural issues - I did as I pleased - and no one else cared or ever even discouraged me from BF my son as long as I did. Unless you've been there - you do not understand - sorry for you.
It is not abuse, but it is neglect
If you cannot take the dog in, I would definitely call the authorities. It is completely unfair and wrong for the dog to be left alone outside for that long with no shelter and no place to go. Who knows, maybe your cat and they dog will get along. I have 3 cats and a 128-pound German shepherd, and they call get along just fine together! But, if you cannot do this, just call the authorities for help/advice. I'm sure the dog would want you to do this so that it can get out of this situation!
Abuse causing this?
I had a son (I hear boys are worse than girls) who wet the bed until probably early teens. My aunt was a nurse, said NOT to belittle, get after, etc., etc. He definitely was NOT abused. Think children just do sometimes. I was told he would grow out of it and he did.
Sibling abuse

I picked up my 6-YO grandson today to bring him to my house for the weekend. When I got there I could tell he'd been crying and had a puffy bottom lip. He showed me where he had a missing tooth and said his 8 1/2-YO half brother (not my grandson) knocked it out.  His mom sits on the couch and says nothing to dispute it, so I'm sure it's true.  This brother is also his babysitter after school until mom and step-dad get home.


Not too long ago DHS was involved and step-dad was charged with abusing my grandson.  Of course they always try counseling first before thinking about removing a child from the home.


I constantly worry about the environment he is in as I've seen the way older brother treats him, but never anything quite like this. At what point is it considered sibling abuse as opposed to normal fighting that brothers might do.  Is this something I should report to DHS?


p.s. His mom is just beginning to speak to me again. She blames me for the last DHS thing even though I wasn't the one who reported it (only because I didn't know about it). Once I heard about it, I did go make a report about neglect that I'd observed. Then they were conveniently busy for the next 5 weekends so I couldn't see my grandson.  It's a long story, but there is nothing in writing about visitation. I have pretty much had visitation with him every other weekend for the last six years.


What to do.


Sibling abuse

They're home alone 2 to 3 hours before parents get home. Parents are trying to save money, which is the only important thing to them.  I agree entirely that he is too young.


The thing is, parents were home today when this happened. They were probably just getting up. They do not get out of bed before 10 on the weekend, even though kids are up at 6 or 7.  I pick my grandson up at 10, and he has not had breakfast yet. This is the norm.


Child abuse, hardly
My child was circumcised years ago, did fine. Years later my 2 male grandchildren were not circumcised and as they were aging were running into lots of trouble, could not retract the foreskin because as they grew, so did the foreskin, could not keep the penis clean and finally at an older age (when more painful for them) had to get circumcised. Well known fact, smegma collects there and causes infection and could lead to worst things than just infection, has been linked to penile cancer.
no, not child abuse. what will they think of next? SM
How about - combing the tangles out of your daughter's hair (ouch)?

or ripping off a band aide?

or making them eat their vegies?

But, now listen to this
the mother has been held in contempt of court 12 times so she is not an angel either. Things are not hunky-dory on her part either.