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Posted By: anon on 2008-12-15
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How long is too long to wait on somebody?


I have been with my boyfriend for over 10 years now - 5 really serious, living together.  Even though most of the time I am miserable, most of the time, I just keep on staying because "I love him" and he will "grow up" in time.


He does not want to get married right now, even though "one day" I am who he plans to marry...  he stays out with the guys all the time (6 days out of 7), not coming home lots of nights because he had too much to drink or he just lost track of time and then fell asleep (and yes, I believe him as to the whys)....


But I am tired of being alone all the time... I am tired of being responsible for holding the relationship together.  When I tell him it has to stop and he has to pay more attention to the relationship if he wants it to work, he always responds he is working on it but that it takes a while to change habits.


My problem is a couple of years ago I met a very nice man who could take care of me easily... and has offered to do so many times.  He is now ready for a relationship and not just a friendship with me (which is all it has been).  I know that I don't love him, don't know if I ever will love him, but I also know that right now, love is not doing too much for me except causing heartache and tears on a daily basis... 


So, again, how long is too long to wait on the person you love to grow up?


 




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Just think of how many of them are unhappy in relationships though,
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This is my marriage in a nutshell...it explains so much!! I found it while looking up some of the abuse  cycle info suggested by other posters..thank you


Narcissistic Personality Disorder - Simplified


It looks like this... Your partner treats you and perhaps your children different in private than in public. In public he may ignore you giving all of his attention to others, or pretend to be the perfect husband or father, while in private he may be sarcastic, haughty and insulting. He may put down his friends to you (behind their back). He may have a very inflated sense of entitlement and ego, thinking he deserves things that he hasn’t worked for or earned and he may lie and manipulate people for attention, acting a bit too good to be true. This can fool people and so few will believe how he talks to his family in private (I say ‘he’, because the majority of NPD sufferers are men). He may also show little or no regard for your well being or your feelings.




That’s not all...




He may lie about you or paint a bad picture of you to gain sympathy from others and to justify his own bad behaviour. You may not know all of the lies he is telling you and telling others about you...




The recommendations I have to offer are relevant whether you know that your partner has NPD or not. They are steps for anyone living with marital abuse. They are aimed at protecting you while giving your marriage the best chance of healing. They are steps recommended by people who work in the front line with these issues everyday.




Not all people with NPD are physically abusive, but it is a significant indicator. The physical abuse is not always perpetrated by the person with NPD either. It is normal to become very angry with someone who manipulates you and puts you down. It is normal after years of this treatment to even want to kill them or wish them dead. This is one reason why knowing how to get help and support is so important.


Men and Women- Relationships

I have heard people call their husbands or wives stupid. I am just curious. Do you believe there is really a dialogue between the genders. Do you respect your mate and vice versa.


I was watching Mad Men and the whole relationship between men & women in the 1950ies was very different. Men treated women as if they were children. They were petted and coddled, but these woman had no power, no sense of responsibility.


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Platonic Relationships
Can an unmarried heterosexual man and woman have a very close friendship and it remain platonic?
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Relationships - new type of topic
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I have always believed that before planning your life with someone you should first be true to yourself. Get to know yourself. What is is you want out of life. Can you achieve that goal on your own. I always have felt I did not enter with world with a man attached to my side and I won't be leaving this world with one attached to my side either. I'm am me, I'm a whole person. I have interests, thoughts, and beliefs, that are not always the same as my "other halfs". I am married right now, but to tell the truth I would be perfectly happy living on my own also. I've got lots of family and friends to do activities with, so there is not an issue of ever being lonely. You can be alone without being lonely.

Just wonder how many people are so attached to their spouse they feel life would not be worth anything if they were without them and if so why.
Im not talking about a check. Im talking about a positive administration working FOR Americans and
Not receiving a check each month to help us out is not what got us in this mess...
Great advice from Madea on relationships sm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqDU6CPwy6Q


If you have ever been lonely, or in a bad relationship, this is for you!!!


What's the difference between talking on cell and talking to person sitting across from you?
You should be ignoring people at other tables and MYOB.
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Could someone tell me if there is a Christianity board as well as a prayer board (sm)
or are they one in the same? I have some faith related questions, but don't want to post on the prayer board again if it is specifically for prayer requests. I do not see a Christianity board listed. Thanks so much.
Main board, gab board, company, etc, just like here,
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naw - that was the old board that did that, aka the 'other' board!
why was it here and not on the Politics board anyway?
Look who's talking!
So what are you doing here? Also, it should be "as well as the ones WHO answered this", by the way.
look whose talking too!

Maybe that is me you are talking about?
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If a guy is still talking to his

and they have no kids together, been divorced almost a year, that's bad, right?


She cheated, why would he want to talk to her still?


that's OK. keep talking.
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But it is CNN along with others, we are not talking
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What are you talking about???????????????
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that's what I was talking about...

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not really...we have tried talking to them about it before but they don't get it...
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Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Kwanzaa!
I really don’t know what you are talking about
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Exactly what I'm talking about..sm
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If you really want to get them talking
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Are you actually talking about someone else? sm
Maybe a friend you fell out with and you know she reads this board? If you really are talking about yourself, go talk to a doctor and get some antidepressants :-)
wth are you talking about?
not sure how you figure insurnace companies charge you for other people's kids...
i know what you are talking about sm
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Are you talking about
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Yes. I think I had what you are talking about,
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are you talking about
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DH and I were just talking about this
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????????????
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WHAT are you talking about?
No one here is saying anything about where it came from. Most have the sense to know it was a gift, already heard. We are talking pets, not politics.
you might be talking about the BMI....nm
nm
I think what she was talking about
is about single parents - not having the mother or father present but still can raise your kids right...like my daddy did with me :)
We were just talking about that!
That's so funny - I was talking to my best friend on the phone and we said the same thing. She said she thought Debbie Rowe had made some effort to get back in the kids lives and, if so (and assuming she isn't a complete nut job), she should get the two back that are definitely hers.

Are you talking about the 1 on the
gurney with him being intubated?
Talking about dieting, has anyone

used Hoodia and if so, what kind of success have you had with it?


That's what we're talking about
It turns out he stood me up because he had been told I was too young for him, and didn't know how to say it. Yeah, that sounds lame, I know, but I believe him. We were only kids.

Anyway, we've talked about, if it lasts, sticking it out till we're old and gray, and eventually meeting again when we're both free. This may or may not happen. NOne of us are getting any younger. And, no, I'm not going to just sit around waiting for my husband to die. I've had a full life for 41 years - I can wait another thirty if necessary.
Are they talking laparoscopic?
I think the worse it is, the harder it is to do laparoscopically. It is much less painful to recover from the laparoscopic procedure. The surgery is routine, but there can still be complications, so just make sure you have an experienced surgeon and see what he or she says. And let people know so they can pray for you.
I'm not talking about her talent, but rather
her not being a good role model. I just don't see how that description fits.
It seems to me the person should be talking
to the person they are having dinner with and not someone on a phone. And as posted below, they usually have to talk rather loud and I do find that annoying.
My friend and I were just talking about that
I was over watching AI with her and she mentioned the same thing without even actually knowing about it. It was just a guess on her part.
He probably did it to keep people talking about him...sm
I do agree with Simon's comments about him, though. I thought Gina did the best she had ever sung last night and of course Lakeisha & Melinda were awesome. The guys overall still stink - out of the thousands that auditioned they should have picked better ones.