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This drug testing is going too far - sm

Posted By: me on 2009-04-18
In Reply to: Checking for drug usage in unemployed - Angie

I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).

My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.

A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.

Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".

Bad idea.


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This drug testing is going too far - sm
Why in the world would you think this is a good idea? I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).

My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.

A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.

Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".

Bad idea.
she is on a multiple-times-per-week drug testing

Too bad - but If you always do what you've always done....you'll always get what you've always gotten.....if her kids are less important to her than her partying, druggin' ways...well, how one makes their bed is how they get to sleep in it.....no sympathy here....


K-Fed, in particular, stays clean FOR his kids....and I don't like or even know the guy, but I do know he IS the better parent from all that is shoved at us about these 2 and not just these 2 but all these rehab'd at-risk younger people....


oh and please don't think I don't have a heart - no flames - got my own family history of substance abuse that goes decades back...some even died....


But having kids is like G_d giving ya a second chance to GET IT RIGHT!!  Some people just don't get it....


JMHO (just my HUMBLE opinion)


 


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testing too. . .

Hope it worked


 


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Was testing to see if I could post.  Tried to reply to another poster. Must have not did it correctly.  Anyway, I am starving, on liquid only, getting ready to endocscopy tomorrow at 12:30, that's a long time.  I just had a can of chicken broth and some White grape juice.  Any ideas?
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Just testing - sm

I don't see anything since 2/28 on the Gab Board.  Is anybody getting this?


Drug Problem--sm

>Different kind of "Drugging" - by Marsha Kelly


>


>The other day, someone at the store in our town read that a


methamphetamine


>lab had been found in an old farmhouse in the adjoining county and he


asked


>me a rhetorical question.


>


>"Why didn't we have a drug problem when you and I were growing up?"


>


>I replied, "I had a drug problem when I was young. I was drug to church


on


>Sunday morning. I was drug to church for weddings and funerals. I was


drug


>to family reunions and community socials, no matter the weather.


>


>I was drug by my ears when I was disrespectful to adults. I was also


drug


>to the woodshed when I disobeyed my parents, told a lie, brought home a


bad


>report card, did not speak with respect, spoke ill of the teacher or


the


>preacher, or if I didn't put forth my best effort in everything that


was


>asked of me.


>


>I was drug to the kitchen sink to have my mouth washed out the soap if


I


>uttered a profanity. I was drug out to pull weeds in mom's garden and


>flower beds and cockleburs out of dad's fields.


>


>I was drug to the homes of family, friends, and neighbors to help out


some


>poor soul who had no one to mow the yard, repair the clothesline or


chop


>some firewood; and, if my mother had ever known that I took a single


dime


>as a tip for this kindness, she would have drug me back to the


woodshed.


>


>Those drugs are still in my veins and they affect my behavior in


everything


>I do, say or think. They are stronger than cocaine, crack, or heroin;


and


>if today's children had this kind of drug problem, America would be a


>better place.


>


>God bless the parents who drugged us.


>


He has been drug tested....
for his job. I don't think that drugs or alcohol are involved.  We have considered it, but I just don't think that it the problem.  I certainly would never let him drive with my son if I was unsure.  I just don't know what it could be.  It would take a book to write down all of his issues.  The sad part is that his father dismisses it all because he does well in school and he is premed, but he just lacks any sort of personal character.  Being smart does not make you a good person and he is just not a good person.  I am still so sick to my stomach about this.  I feel like I am a bad person, having mothered this kid for 13 years and now I am just ready to wash my hands of him.  I am dead serious about that and it makes me ill.  I pray to God that I don't ever have these feelings about my son. 
drug store
loved the fountain drinks, miss the five and dimes like Woolworth's.
With their drug war going on & innocent
tourists getting caught up in the middle, not to mention how dangerous it can be even without a drug war going on... is it REALLY worth the risk? We have plenty of beautiful beaches right here in the U.S., and why not spend your tourism money to help out our own ailing economy. It is much better to be safe than sorry. JMO...
Testing my New Profile...
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Has anyone ever had allergy testing before? sm

I have had allergies for years now, but they seem to just get worse every year. I only have trouble from spring to fall. Okay all winter. I have tried every allergy med on the market with no relief. I have used over the counter stuff, Claritin, Clarinex, Allegra, nasal sprays and am now on Zyrtec D b.i.d.  I had a Kenalog injection about a month ago, which usually helps me get throught the summer. I usually get the Kenalog and take my allergy pill and for the most part can get by with minimal symptoms. This year it is like I am on nothing!! I have never had allergy testing before. I would appreciate any input on what has worked for you..or if you have had the testing done. Thanks!


allergy testing-----sm
I just had allergy testing done in March of this year. I had also had it done years ago and was expecting the 100+ sticks on the back. But, I was pleasantly surprised. They had this contraption that had 10 prongs on it and each prong stuck down into the allergen bottle. They then pulled out this contraption and mashed in on my arm and that did 20 "sticks" at one time. They did 3 sets of those and it really was not bad at all. I am now on my 3rd vial of buildup and will be able to give myself my shots after that. I developed sinus polyps during my last pregnancy and had to have sinus surgery last year. The doctors told me that if I didn't get my allergies under control, that the polyps would most likely come back. The shots have helped me a great deal and I can tell a BIG difference.

Just me, but, I wouldn't wait.

Take care!!
has he ever had allergy testing?
my son takes allergy shots and it seems to help him. he doesn't have to take his Zyrtec as often. We also have plastic covers on the mattresses. I don't think the air purifier really helps him a whole lot b/c he is allergic to every allergen they tested him for.
I don't have a DNA lab or the money to pay for DNA testing.
How about a lie detector test for mom and dad instead?
Testing is simple
Very complicated subject, but if you are working midnights, sleeping days, or even evenings, you probably are not getting enough sun.  The only real way to know is to undergo a 25-hydroxy vitamin D test.  If you have insurance and your doctor will order the test, then it probably won't cost anything.  If you want to know, have no insurance, and can use a lancet to poke your finger you can get an at-home test from the Vitamin D Council or GrassRoots Health and pay about $30 for the test.  The provide the test, two lancets, postage and the test is very accurate.  The first time I tested I ordered through my doctor's office and because I had no insurance it cost me $300 but I was severely deficient, a 7 on a range of normal from 32 to 100.  Now after supplementation, I am 98.  Start reading about deficiencies with the Vitamin D Council and go from there. 
Genetic testing...sm

Hey girls!


I just had my annual exam and I was talking with the doctor about my family history of breast/cervical cancer.  She mentioned genetic testing and that if I had the gene mutation, then I could have an elective bilateral mastectomy and reconstructive surgery.  Just wondering if any of you have any experience with this or what your thoughts or opinions are on this subject. 


Thanks!


I had to go get drug tested today for my - sm
bus substitute driver job; they provided the car for us to go the clinic. Apparently they normally take the white car, but today we took the red car because the white one was being held as they found drugs in it last week. Kind of funny as it is a county car used only by the school employees; and mainly to go to drug tests. How un-smart is that? They still don't know who is the guilty party as the car had more than normal traffic in it last week. Guess they will figure it out though, I bet everyone that has been in that car for the last 2 weeks is getting drug tested; if you test positive you are immediately fired.
Try the company that makes the drug.
We got on a plan for my son through the company and he gets his meds free (Concerta) for at least the next year.
The 100K came way after the drug charges
The arrest came say 15 or 20 years before the 100K and the way they spend their money that $100K probably not around too long.
Has anyone ever been on Clomid - or any other fertility drug? sm
DH and I are having fertility issues and the doc has put me on Clomid but I have yet to get a positive ovulation stick (the kind you pee on), and I am getting frustrated.  Has anyone ever been on this?
A drug bust! Well there is no telling
what kind of life that dog had. That is very sad. You know, I had to admit but I use to be one of those people that said oh no a pitbull! They are mean, they will turn on you, but that all changed when I got a little pitbull puppy years ago that changed me. My pitbull taught me the true meaning of Don't believe everything that you hear, and only believe half of what you see.
Help on upgrading drug reference

Hi all,


I am seriously in need of upgrading my drug reference. I am still using Quick Look electronic 2004 and so many new drugs have been introduced in the past 4 years.  What would you recommend??  I just checked the Stedman's site and really cannot afford that kind of money right now.  Do any of you recommend a hard copy book that would keep me updated???  Thank you for any suggestions.


Can we drug-test the Senators too?
I don't think connecting unemployment benefits to drug-testing is a good idea. In fact, I don't think drug testing should be random at all. I think it should be reserved for cases that are on a need-to-know basis. And no, I have never used drugs, never tried them. It's a matter of civil liberties and constitutional rights against invasions of our privacy. Next thing you know, they'll be testing us for lipid levels after we're seen frequenting a house of trans-fats.

And while we're on the topic, decriminalizing drugs would go a long way toward reducing drug-related crimes. Nothing is perfect in this discussion though because drugs really are evil. It just becomes a matter of damage control.
I have taken many drug tests for many jobs...
and never felt like a criminal. It is just the way things are. I would far rather have drug users weeded out of medical positions,welfare and unemployment than to not take the test. I don't know why anyone who does not use drugs would feel humiliated by taking a test. Just my opinion.
Whoever did her psych testing at NASA
is going to have some explaining to do. Love has nothing to do with this. She is having delusions, probably hearing voices, the whole bit. I wonder if there is a family history of psychiatric illness. Because it's either that or she started taking amphetamines or had some weird medication reaction. I'll bet the male astronaut is dying of embarrassment.
Anyone have genetics testing after a miscarriage? sm
If so, did the testing reveal any possible reasons for the miscarriage and prevention methods for future pregnancies?  Did you get pregnant after that and did you successfully carry the pregnancy? 
It's a legitimate question. He was testing the man's
The man said everything in your life you wished for, be it negative or positive.

So, Larry King put him to the test.

If you agree with the general, you have to agree with the specifics.

He said that little girl brought that upon herself with negative thinking.


sounds like he was testing the waters.
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Testing to see if this shows. Wonder why no posts on
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What's the penalty for testing positive?

How long before they can straighten up and test negative?  Does this mean for the rest of their lives, they will never receive any welfare benefits becase they smoked a joint? 


Would I the taxpayer have to pay for the drug testing that is performed this one time or multiple times?  Would I have to pay more taxes when people are homeless?  Would we need more homeless shelters?  What would this cost the taxpayers in the long haul?  Is every applicant tested?  Where is this information for the results of the drug testing stored, in a police database?  What type of rehab if the test is positive would be offered, if any?  Would the person serve time for being under the influence?  Would this cause me to have to serve jury duty more often?  Would they also be screened for alcohol?  What type of future ramifications are in order if and when they do get a job?  Would the prospective employer be notified that welfare was not granted due to drug use/intoxication? 


Not an easy task is it?


 


That is what drug addicts and gold diggers do, unfortunately :(
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I think you do have to go all out. A therapist and drug screen would be first priority nm
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Talk to the maker of the drug in question. sm
Many drug companies have what they call "Indigent Programs". Don't let the name put you off. It is for people who cannot afford their medications and need them to live.

I worked in a urology office and the cheme seeds for prostate cancer cost approx. $1700.00 a month. The company had a program for the guys who couldn't afford it, the guys who had insurance that would only pay a miniscule amount, etc.

I had that problem when I was unemployed and my anti-depressants cost over $500 a month. The company that made them had a program such as that and it saved my sanity.

Look into it. You are only out the time it takes to fill out a form. Some of these are also income based, but please, don't let the name put you off. It is well worth the time you invest.

Good luck.
Checking for drug usage in unemployed
Just seeing where a senator from Florida wanting to have mandatory drug tests for people who want to apply for unemployment money. I think this is a great idea, what about you?
If you consider SIX MONTHS "extensive testing time"
That's how long the FDA evaluated this vaccine to approve it!!

This is from a great FDA article that gives a lot more information. I'll include the link below.

"The manufacturer has agreed to conduct several studies following licensure, including additional studies to further evaluate general safety and long-term effectiveness."

I can't believe that some of you people would be okay giving this to your daughters when there is NO evidence or studies on long-term effects of this vaccine!!

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2006/NEW01385.html
Had allergy testing and then shots for years -

I am highly allergic to dust mites (off the scale!) and had allergy shots for 4 years.  As far as I can tell, it really did no good.  I have had no carpet in the house we built for 7 years now, everything in the bedroom encased, run 2 HEPA filters in the bedroom and 1 in my office 24/7, and I still suffer quite a bit.  I was retested not too long ago.  My test still shows very high sensitivity to dust mites and not really much reaction to anything else (just like before the shots).  I know people who have had great success with allergy shots.  Unfortunately, I am not one of them.  It is worth a try! 


Hypothyroidism can cause constipation -- has she had recent lab testing? (n/m)
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Just saw a report on news where they listed it as a dangerous drug
apparently caused something that looked like malignant polyps in the colon but other than that, people told not to take it on a first date, not good idea and you should maybe, starting to take for first time, wear dark pants. I guess that is so the orange diarrhea won't show through so much.
See, that's was exactly my initial response to the negative drug test. SM

I felt like relief that my son, even when faced with the temptation, resisted the urge to smoke pot with his friends.  I actually congratulated my son and told him how proud I was that he hadn't been taking any drugs or smoking pot.  But then I wondered if he should be punished for having a bong in his pack.  He obviously didn't use it, but why did he have it?


Now I think I may lift the grounding, but set some rules about him avoiding being around the 23-year-old guy and basically having him check in with me routinely when he is out and as long as he follows the rules, then I'll trust him.


Geez, I don't think I'm going to survive the teenage years and they've only just begun!  I can only hope that when my 7yo daughter reaches her teens, she will go a little easier on me!


Thanks everyone for listening and offering your advice.


Jails are overflowing because of insane drug laws.
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Anything Billy Mays, any "male enhancement" drug,....
Geico with the cavemen, any "are you behind in taxes" commercial.
My husband is drug tested on a regular basis
for his job, just took 1 yesterday. It can be at any time, when he is arriving or leaving work and being as he has a responsible job, I am totally all for it as he is.
RE: Has anyone every had positive prenatal testing for Down and then found out everything was fine?
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I think I'll call my doc tomorrow and see about allergy testing
Thanks!
last night the tests were back from the "air" testing...sm

They tested the air in the trunk to see if there was really human decomposition.  They didn't know for sure but one station was reporting that it was.  As of last night they were still waiting on the DNA results of the hair samples from the trunk also.  Apparently they can tell if it was from a dead/decomposing body and of course whether or not it was the baby's.  Maybe those came back.  Oh! The guy who posted her bond said last night that he was going to revoke it.  I'll bet that's it.


It was so obvious right from the beginning that she was a lying sack of sh**!   First of all, what mother just "looks for" her missing baby for a month without calling the police?  or even telling her own mother? Then, what kind of freakin' human being goes out partying just DAYS after her baby is missing?????  Not only that but she also had a FEW boyfreinds during it all.  Men would be the last thing on my mind and I might be drinking but it sure wouldn't be because of partying.  I'd be drinking myself into oblivion and that's only if you could get me out of bed and stopped crying for any amount of time.  I wouldn't be able to function if my little girl disappeared.  Even with the lame excuse that she gave about some babysitter taking her.  If that were the case, then I'd be flamining hot and on a murderous hunt day and night, not even stopping to sleep.  I'd find the woman my damn self and put my own justice on her not evening thinking twice about it.  I'd spend the rest of my life in prison if it meant saving my baby or avenging any suffering she had gone through! 


There isn't even words to explain how I feel about her!  That poor baby girl doesn't deserve what she is getting right now, being treated like a bag of garbage and left to rot somewhere!!!!  Casey will get what she deserves in prison though, I can almost guarantee that. And I don't mean by the courts or our so called justice system.  The women in there will give her the justice she deserves!  You can bet on it!