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With their drug war going on & innocent

Posted By: SM on 2009-02-27
In Reply to: Anyone else going to Cancun for Spring Break and concerned about current safety concerns - Cancundreaming

tourists getting caught up in the middle, not to mention how dangerous it can be even without a drug war going on... is it REALLY worth the risk? We have plenty of beautiful beaches right here in the U.S., and why not spend your tourism money to help out our own ailing economy. It is much better to be safe than sorry. JMO...


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Is the land right near her home where he would have to have a lot of contact with her? Because I think you are right to worry that if he rebuffs her she might run him off the property, or if the lease prevents it she could make him pretty miserable, unless the land is not nearby her home and he could just mail the payments to her.

It's always possible that she is not doing this, but it sounds like your gut is telling you something isn't right, and it clearly made him uneasy or he wouldn't have told you about it. I would avoid this situation altogether and find other land to lease.
They only look innocent in that picture!
We wake up every morning to find ornaments all over the floor throughout the house! My white one who isn't in that picture is the worst of the bunch!
Very cute and innocent looking.
Very shiny coats, too. Nice dogs. Thanks for sharing.
How did an innocent bubble bath
This discussion the strangest thing I have ever heard in my life!  My husband uses body butter from Bath and Body Works, but he's not gay, and he is very, very masculine.  He just has dry skin and cares about his appearance.  I'd prefer clean and fresh, then nasty, stinky, unkempt with dirty fingernails.  I don't think there is anything wrong with a man caring about his appearance.  To each his own I guess. 
do you think you should have, for the sake of the innocent child?
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OJ book and trial, innocent or guilty?
I saw the message about OJ and the book about whether or not he actually did the crime. What I would like to know from the MTers discussing this, did any of you watch the trial from start to finish? The newspapers, television shows, etc. most all the time fabricated parts leaning towards his part in this crime. I saw it all from start to finish, every single day and after that made my own decision regarding the guilt or innocence, not by what I read in the papers or heard on the news. The most important piece of "evidence" supposedly was the glove issue. The trial showed a receipt from a store from accessories. Never ever did they match a scanned number, price, date bought or whatever with the glove buying, but then again I guess most of you watched all the trial?
I wouldn't want to. I'm angry that our system is set up so that this innocent man could not b
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probably unwanted advice from an innocent bystander
1) Change your locks. Do not give your children keys. If they don't have access to keys, then they can't be tricked, bribed, or begged into handing them over to anybody.

2) Secure your windows with locking sticks or locks of some kind. It doesn't have to cost anything or be fancy in any way, it just needs to create a situation where a break-in would leave evidence behind (broken glass, etc).

3) Go ahead and leave the garage open if you want, but get all of your own stuff out of there.

4) Instruct your children to not answer the door or open the door for ANYONE except you and the specifically named people that you trust implicitly to do no harm and not be in collusion with the -ex. (This should be a very short list!)

The above things all have to do with the -ex, not the social worker, by the way, but it's never a bad idea to require a social worker to be let in by YOU and YOU ALONE (never the kids/teenagers).

I'm so glad to hear that things are sounding like the law is on your side! Best Wishes!
Please click daily for our innocent unconditional friends
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Drug Problem--sm

>Different kind of "Drugging" - by Marsha Kelly


>


>The other day, someone at the store in our town read that a


methamphetamine


>lab had been found in an old farmhouse in the adjoining county and he


asked


>me a rhetorical question.


>


>"Why didn't we have a drug problem when you and I were growing up?"


>


>I replied, "I had a drug problem when I was young. I was drug to church


on


>Sunday morning. I was drug to church for weddings and funerals. I was


drug


>to family reunions and community socials, no matter the weather.


>


>I was drug by my ears when I was disrespectful to adults. I was also


drug


>to the woodshed when I disobeyed my parents, told a lie, brought home a


bad


>report card, did not speak with respect, spoke ill of the teacher or


the


>preacher, or if I didn't put forth my best effort in everything that


was


>asked of me.


>


>I was drug to the kitchen sink to have my mouth washed out the soap if


I


>uttered a profanity. I was drug out to pull weeds in mom's garden and


>flower beds and cockleburs out of dad's fields.


>


>I was drug to the homes of family, friends, and neighbors to help out


some


>poor soul who had no one to mow the yard, repair the clothesline or


chop


>some firewood; and, if my mother had ever known that I took a single


dime


>as a tip for this kindness, she would have drug me back to the


woodshed.


>


>Those drugs are still in my veins and they affect my behavior in


everything


>I do, say or think. They are stronger than cocaine, crack, or heroin;


and


>if today's children had this kind of drug problem, America would be a


>better place.


>


>God bless the parents who drugged us.


>


He has been drug tested....
for his job. I don't think that drugs or alcohol are involved.  We have considered it, but I just don't think that it the problem.  I certainly would never let him drive with my son if I was unsure.  I just don't know what it could be.  It would take a book to write down all of his issues.  The sad part is that his father dismisses it all because he does well in school and he is premed, but he just lacks any sort of personal character.  Being smart does not make you a good person and he is just not a good person.  I am still so sick to my stomach about this.  I feel like I am a bad person, having mothered this kid for 13 years and now I am just ready to wash my hands of him.  I am dead serious about that and it makes me ill.  I pray to God that I don't ever have these feelings about my son. 
drug store
loved the fountain drinks, miss the five and dimes like Woolworth's.
This drug testing is going too far - sm
I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).

My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.

A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.

Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".

Bad idea.
This drug testing is going too far - sm
Why in the world would you think this is a good idea? I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).

My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.

A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.

Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".

Bad idea.
I had to go get drug tested today for my - sm
bus substitute driver job; they provided the car for us to go the clinic. Apparently they normally take the white car, but today we took the red car because the white one was being held as they found drugs in it last week. Kind of funny as it is a county car used only by the school employees; and mainly to go to drug tests. How un-smart is that? They still don't know who is the guilty party as the car had more than normal traffic in it last week. Guess they will figure it out though, I bet everyone that has been in that car for the last 2 weeks is getting drug tested; if you test positive you are immediately fired.
Try the company that makes the drug.
We got on a plan for my son through the company and he gets his meds free (Concerta) for at least the next year.
The 100K came way after the drug charges
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A drug bust! Well there is no telling
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Hi all,


I am seriously in need of upgrading my drug reference. I am still using Quick Look electronic 2004 and so many new drugs have been introduced in the past 4 years.  What would you recommend??  I just checked the Stedman's site and really cannot afford that kind of money right now.  Do any of you recommend a hard copy book that would keep me updated???  Thank you for any suggestions.


Can we drug-test the Senators too?
I don't think connecting unemployment benefits to drug-testing is a good idea. In fact, I don't think drug testing should be random at all. I think it should be reserved for cases that are on a need-to-know basis. And no, I have never used drugs, never tried them. It's a matter of civil liberties and constitutional rights against invasions of our privacy. Next thing you know, they'll be testing us for lipid levels after we're seen frequenting a house of trans-fats.

And while we're on the topic, decriminalizing drugs would go a long way toward reducing drug-related crimes. Nothing is perfect in this discussion though because drugs really are evil. It just becomes a matter of damage control.
I have taken many drug tests for many jobs...
and never felt like a criminal. It is just the way things are. I would far rather have drug users weeded out of medical positions,welfare and unemployment than to not take the test. I don't know why anyone who does not use drugs would feel humiliated by taking a test. Just my opinion.
That is what drug addicts and gold diggers do, unfortunately :(
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I think you do have to go all out. A therapist and drug screen would be first priority nm
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Talk to the maker of the drug in question. sm
Many drug companies have what they call "Indigent Programs". Don't let the name put you off. It is for people who cannot afford their medications and need them to live.

I worked in a urology office and the cheme seeds for prostate cancer cost approx. $1700.00 a month. The company had a program for the guys who couldn't afford it, the guys who had insurance that would only pay a miniscule amount, etc.

I had that problem when I was unemployed and my anti-depressants cost over $500 a month. The company that made them had a program such as that and it saved my sanity.

Look into it. You are only out the time it takes to fill out a form. Some of these are also income based, but please, don't let the name put you off. It is well worth the time you invest.

Good luck.
Checking for drug usage in unemployed
Just seeing where a senator from Florida wanting to have mandatory drug tests for people who want to apply for unemployment money. I think this is a great idea, what about you?
Just saw a report on news where they listed it as a dangerous drug
apparently caused something that looked like malignant polyps in the colon but other than that, people told not to take it on a first date, not good idea and you should maybe, starting to take for first time, wear dark pants. I guess that is so the orange diarrhea won't show through so much.
See, that's was exactly my initial response to the negative drug test. SM

I felt like relief that my son, even when faced with the temptation, resisted the urge to smoke pot with his friends.  I actually congratulated my son and told him how proud I was that he hadn't been taking any drugs or smoking pot.  But then I wondered if he should be punished for having a bong in his pack.  He obviously didn't use it, but why did he have it?


Now I think I may lift the grounding, but set some rules about him avoiding being around the 23-year-old guy and basically having him check in with me routinely when he is out and as long as he follows the rules, then I'll trust him.


Geez, I don't think I'm going to survive the teenage years and they've only just begun!  I can only hope that when my 7yo daughter reaches her teens, she will go a little easier on me!


Thanks everyone for listening and offering your advice.


she is on a multiple-times-per-week drug testing

Too bad - but If you always do what you've always done....you'll always get what you've always gotten.....if her kids are less important to her than her partying, druggin' ways...well, how one makes their bed is how they get to sleep in it.....no sympathy here....


K-Fed, in particular, stays clean FOR his kids....and I don't like or even know the guy, but I do know he IS the better parent from all that is shoved at us about these 2 and not just these 2 but all these rehab'd at-risk younger people....


oh and please don't think I don't have a heart - no flames - got my own family history of substance abuse that goes decades back...some even died....


But having kids is like G_d giving ya a second chance to GET IT RIGHT!!  Some people just don't get it....


JMHO (just my HUMBLE opinion)


 


Jails are overflowing because of insane drug laws.
xx
Anything Billy Mays, any "male enhancement" drug,....
Geico with the cavemen, any "are you behind in taxes" commercial.
My husband is drug tested on a regular basis
for his job, just took 1 yesterday. It can be at any time, when he is arriving or leaving work and being as he has a responsible job, I am totally all for it as he is.
Klonopin is a wonderful drug but a benzodiazepam. Be aware of withdrawal.
I was placed on Klonopin during a stressful year when sleep was elusive, leaving me dragging all day.

It worked amazingly. But, there came a time I had to get off of it. I thought I could just stop taking it. Not so. The drug leaving my system placed me in a state that was far worse than the anxiety I took it for. For three months, I had ringing in my ears, was in an agitated state that I likened to listening to fingernails being scraped across a chaulkboard and then having that sound magnified a thousand times.

I watched a show that featured drug addicts in a methadone clinic and one person interviewed said that the worst drug to get off of was "bennies." Worse than heroin and methadone, and I believe him. I also came to realize there are many people hooked on these powerful drugs simply because the withdrawal is so very unpleasant to go through.

I suggest taking it periodically, never more than two weeks in a row. I only wish my doctor would have said that I would become physically addicted to it to the point that medical supervision would be required to stop taking it. Instead, they appeared to think I had developed "drug-seeking behavior" because of my anxious calls to the office when I was experiencing the symptoms.
Sure she is mentally ill and I am sure all the drugs and the drug-laced lollipops didn't help!
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Everybody is making it out like she's the first rock star to have a drug problem and win an award
Beatles, Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, Metallica, Smashing Pumpkins, Eagles, INXS, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, The Doors, and on and on and on. If we only listened to, or gave awards to, the clean and sober musicians, our musical legends would be a completely different list.
I agree. My mother is a drug addict and lost custody of me
and I went to live with my grandmother so both of them have less than stellar parenting skills. You can't choose your family but you can choose who you let into your life.
Tessier's Surgical 'Word Book, old but good. And the Quick Look Drug Book and Saunders
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Lets test the one giving the drug test, and (see message)
Lets make people who need to buy groceries take drug tests. Want to go to McDonalds? Hey need to take a drug test first. Need to renew your car registration - take a drug test. Want to go to a movie, better take a drug test. When will the insanity stop.