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Can we drug-test the Senators too?

Posted By: NightOwl on 2009-04-17
In Reply to: Checking for drug usage in unemployed - Angie

I don't think connecting unemployment benefits to drug-testing is a good idea. In fact, I don't think drug testing should be random at all. I think it should be reserved for cases that are on a need-to-know basis. And no, I have never used drugs, never tried them. It's a matter of civil liberties and constitutional rights against invasions of our privacy. Next thing you know, they'll be testing us for lipid levels after we're seen frequenting a house of trans-fats.

And while we're on the topic, decriminalizing drugs would go a long way toward reducing drug-related crimes. Nothing is perfect in this discussion though because drugs really are evil. It just becomes a matter of damage control.


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Lets test the one giving the drug test, and (see message)
Lets make people who need to buy groceries take drug tests. Want to go to McDonalds? Hey need to take a drug test first. Need to renew your car registration - take a drug test. Want to go to a movie, better take a drug test. When will the insanity stop.
See, that's was exactly my initial response to the negative drug test. SM

I felt like relief that my son, even when faced with the temptation, resisted the urge to smoke pot with his friends.  I actually congratulated my son and told him how proud I was that he hadn't been taking any drugs or smoking pot.  But then I wondered if he should be punished for having a bong in his pack.  He obviously didn't use it, but why did he have it?


Now I think I may lift the grounding, but set some rules about him avoiding being around the 23-year-old guy and basically having him check in with me routinely when he is out and as long as he follows the rules, then I'll trust him.


Geez, I don't think I'm going to survive the teenage years and they've only just begun!  I can only hope that when my 7yo daughter reaches her teens, she will go a little easier on me!


Thanks everyone for listening and offering your advice.


I don't know what WASl test is but if it is anything like the TAKS test in Texas - then more powe
I hate standardized testing. I hate the way it is pushed and it is the only thing teachers 'preach' on the whole school year. Math and Reading is the big ones here until 5th grade and then science gets added in. Where is history? Where is grammar (no this is not included in the reading test)? Forget these stupid state standardized testing and get back to what is important.... an education!
So call your senators and representatives
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Ask before you test..
Just ask before you test if they are willing to pay you X amount if you test well. If they say no, don't bother testing. Good luck!
test
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They don't usually test to put them in certain classes. sm
Sometimes in high school it is a matter of making a schedule work and classes work around students to make a full class, etc. So that may or may not be why she was put in this class. I believe too much is expected out of kids these days and I say let her out of the class or at the least talk to the counselor about her issues. I believe in Physics class it helps a lot to have the other classes first. Otherwise, she would be really lost and it sounds like she might be.
Test Message
This is my test message.
smell test
I can tell when the teacher has hugged my kid because she smells like the perfume the teacher wears.

A school day is long. Better the teacher is kind to your child than mean (and there are both kinds of teachers.)
pregancy test then I was in
My MIL thought I was ridiculous wearing maternitiy clothes at 7 weeks, but I was not going to squeeze into my clothes out of vanity. I bloated, barfed and gained 50 pounds, and afterwards lost all the weight and fit into my old clothes just fine. Enjoy being pregnant. Take a nap and eat ice cream!
Drug Problem--sm

>Different kind of "Drugging" - by Marsha Kelly


>


>The other day, someone at the store in our town read that a


methamphetamine


>lab had been found in an old farmhouse in the adjoining county and he


asked


>me a rhetorical question.


>


>"Why didn't we have a drug problem when you and I were growing up?"


>


>I replied, "I had a drug problem when I was young. I was drug to church


on


>Sunday morning. I was drug to church for weddings and funerals. I was


drug


>to family reunions and community socials, no matter the weather.


>


>I was drug by my ears when I was disrespectful to adults. I was also


drug


>to the woodshed when I disobeyed my parents, told a lie, brought home a


bad


>report card, did not speak with respect, spoke ill of the teacher or


the


>preacher, or if I didn't put forth my best effort in everything that


was


>asked of me.


>


>I was drug to the kitchen sink to have my mouth washed out the soap if


I


>uttered a profanity. I was drug out to pull weeds in mom's garden and


>flower beds and cockleburs out of dad's fields.


>


>I was drug to the homes of family, friends, and neighbors to help out


some


>poor soul who had no one to mow the yard, repair the clothesline or


chop


>some firewood; and, if my mother had ever known that I took a single


dime


>as a tip for this kindness, she would have drug me back to the


woodshed.


>


>Those drugs are still in my veins and they affect my behavior in


everything


>I do, say or think. They are stronger than cocaine, crack, or heroin;


and


>if today's children had this kind of drug problem, America would be a


>better place.


>


>God bless the parents who drugged us.


>


He has been drug tested....
for his job. I don't think that drugs or alcohol are involved.  We have considered it, but I just don't think that it the problem.  I certainly would never let him drive with my son if I was unsure.  I just don't know what it could be.  It would take a book to write down all of his issues.  The sad part is that his father dismisses it all because he does well in school and he is premed, but he just lacks any sort of personal character.  Being smart does not make you a good person and he is just not a good person.  I am still so sick to my stomach about this.  I feel like I am a bad person, having mothered this kid for 13 years and now I am just ready to wash my hands of him.  I am dead serious about that and it makes me ill.  I pray to God that I don't ever have these feelings about my son. 
drug store
loved the fountain drinks, miss the five and dimes like Woolworth's.
With their drug war going on & innocent
tourists getting caught up in the middle, not to mention how dangerous it can be even without a drug war going on... is it REALLY worth the risk? We have plenty of beautiful beaches right here in the U.S., and why not spend your tourism money to help out our own ailing economy. It is much better to be safe than sorry. JMO...
This drug testing is going too far - sm
I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).

My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.

A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.

Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".

Bad idea.
This drug testing is going too far - sm
Why in the world would you think this is a good idea? I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).

My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.

A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.

Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".

Bad idea.
I read it is an excellent test, but
I also heard it really smarts.
I was not aware this was a test question. SM
I answered honestly. I am sorry it was not to your liking. If you want me to agree with you, okay, your ex is nuts and call the police on him. Whatever.

Just remember one thing, troubled people tend to gravatate toward each other in life. Think about it.
Did they do an MRI of her adrenals yet? Test her for Lyme? Our kid
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We should use them as test subjects for medication and
I guarantee you start doing some tough punishment and there would be less of that crap going on.
I think they are pretty worthless and not really an IQ test because sm
if you have ever had a Wechsler, you know that those kinds of questions don't play into it. They are mind teasers and trick questions, not something that a Wechsler uses. A Wechsler is several hours long and goes through your math, language, spacial relations and problem solving skills, and it is timed. Part of IQ is how fast you can solve complex problems.

I have taken a Wechsler and while I won't quote you a number, I will say the person who gave it as part of a psychological evaluation, told me he would diagnose me as way too smart for my own good. He stated that I probably didn't suffer fools gladly because I view most of the world as fools. I only fall at the 99.6 percentile on the Bell curve. No, I don't suffer fools gladly, but I try to be nice while others catch up.
I had to go get drug tested today for my - sm
bus substitute driver job; they provided the car for us to go the clinic. Apparently they normally take the white car, but today we took the red car because the white one was being held as they found drugs in it last week. Kind of funny as it is a county car used only by the school employees; and mainly to go to drug tests. How un-smart is that? They still don't know who is the guilty party as the car had more than normal traffic in it last week. Guess they will figure it out though, I bet everyone that has been in that car for the last 2 weeks is getting drug tested; if you test positive you are immediately fired.
Try the company that makes the drug.
We got on a plan for my son through the company and he gets his meds free (Concerta) for at least the next year.
The 100K came way after the drug charges
The arrest came say 15 or 20 years before the 100K and the way they spend their money that $100K probably not around too long.
Has anyone ever been on Clomid - or any other fertility drug? sm
DH and I are having fertility issues and the doc has put me on Clomid but I have yet to get a positive ovulation stick (the kind you pee on), and I am getting frustrated.  Has anyone ever been on this?
A drug bust! Well there is no telling
what kind of life that dog had. That is very sad. You know, I had to admit but I use to be one of those people that said oh no a pitbull! They are mean, they will turn on you, but that all changed when I got a little pitbull puppy years ago that changed me. My pitbull taught me the true meaning of Don't believe everything that you hear, and only believe half of what you see.
Help on upgrading drug reference

Hi all,


I am seriously in need of upgrading my drug reference. I am still using Quick Look electronic 2004 and so many new drugs have been introduced in the past 4 years.  What would you recommend??  I just checked the Stedman's site and really cannot afford that kind of money right now.  Do any of you recommend a hard copy book that would keep me updated???  Thank you for any suggestions.


I have taken many drug tests for many jobs...
and never felt like a criminal. It is just the way things are. I would far rather have drug users weeded out of medical positions,welfare and unemployment than to not take the test. I don't know why anyone who does not use drugs would feel humiliated by taking a test. Just my opinion.
They want to make sure that the baby they test for paternity is
actually Anna Nicole's baby and not another baby that is brought and tested for paternity. If someone were to "switch" babies for paternity tetsing only, then Larry Birkhead would be shown as "not the father," so they want to make sure that the baby tested is actualyl Anna Nicole's and that is why they need her DNA.
Criteron-Referenced Comptency Test....sm
and while theoretically kids that do not pass it in the 3rd, 5th and 8th grades will not be passed, in reality very few are truly held back. That's because the schools get "waivers" for those that fail for various reasons, send them to summer school or any reason they can find to pass them anyway.
Schools and the CRCT test inquiry...sm

Out of curiosity here.... in the area you live in, do your schools basically become just a babysitting facility after the CRCTs are administered until the last day of school?  I've been through CRCT testing with my children now for 5 years and the minute they finish those tests, from that day on until the last day of school they're watching movies, spending more play time, etc. at school & very little actual school work.  It's like the schools are busy teaching the CRCT criteria and once the testing is completed they don't do diddly squat for the last month of school. 


What about in your area? 


Update on kids' hepatitis test
Had a great vacation. Never crossed my mind the whole week. I took my kids in to the doctor on Monday afternoon and got the test and of course, still do not have the results. It is driving me crazy. I keep doing all these reports on patients with hep B and hep C and my heart just sinks and I feel sick at my stomach! I called the office yesterday and today and still no results back from the lab. On Monday, the doctor did say my daughter would probably be sick by now (will be 8 on Monday), but he is a pediatrician and I know that is not exactly right. My husband has pretty major anxiety issues and that made him feel so much better to hear the doctor say that, so I have just kept my mouth shut about how worried I am and talked to my best friend about it. I did one report and the man was 40 yo and had a remote hx of IV drug use 11 years ago and the only way they found it was through routine lab tests, no symptoms, no signs, not even any past medical history, so I know it still could be that there are just no signs yet. I am trying to stay positive though! I know God gave us these babies for a reason. Just hope the nurse calls me tomorrow with good news!
...another test, but again, I forget what the smell is supposed
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That is a good idea--take it for a test drive. ;-) nm
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Does it matter what time of day you take a pregnancy test??/

i've read that morning time is the best, but does it really matter?  i'm 37, had a tubal after my second pregnancy six years ago.  i'm a week and a half late.  i've never been this late before.  i figured i'd start with taking a home pregnancy test first.  i'm anxious to take it and don't want to wait until tomorrow, but heard morning time was the best time.


thanks


Have you see a cardiologist? A tilt table test should
My daughter has this and has had a pacemaker since age 15.

Have the spells been occurring more frequently? Please consider seeing a cardiologist as a first step, at least. Good luck to you.
That is what drug addicts and gold diggers do, unfortunately :(
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I think you do have to go all out. A therapist and drug screen would be first priority nm
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Talk to the maker of the drug in question. sm
Many drug companies have what they call "Indigent Programs". Don't let the name put you off. It is for people who cannot afford their medications and need them to live.

I worked in a urology office and the cheme seeds for prostate cancer cost approx. $1700.00 a month. The company had a program for the guys who couldn't afford it, the guys who had insurance that would only pay a miniscule amount, etc.

I had that problem when I was unemployed and my anti-depressants cost over $500 a month. The company that made them had a program such as that and it saved my sanity.

Look into it. You are only out the time it takes to fill out a form. Some of these are also income based, but please, don't let the name put you off. It is well worth the time you invest.

Good luck.
Checking for drug usage in unemployed
Just seeing where a senator from Florida wanting to have mandatory drug tests for people who want to apply for unemployment money. I think this is a great idea, what about you?
But doesn't the FDA extensively test drugs before marketing? nm
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The courts will now get their DNA test to confirm paternity and whoever the father
really is will be awarded custody. However, given the nature of this case, I am sure the Division of Family Services will be involved no matter what.


Just saw a report on news where they listed it as a dangerous drug
apparently caused something that looked like malignant polyps in the colon but other than that, people told not to take it on a first date, not good idea and you should maybe, starting to take for first time, wear dark pants. I guess that is so the orange diarrhea won't show through so much.
she is on a multiple-times-per-week drug testing

Too bad - but If you always do what you've always done....you'll always get what you've always gotten.....if her kids are less important to her than her partying, druggin' ways...well, how one makes their bed is how they get to sleep in it.....no sympathy here....


K-Fed, in particular, stays clean FOR his kids....and I don't like or even know the guy, but I do know he IS the better parent from all that is shoved at us about these 2 and not just these 2 but all these rehab'd at-risk younger people....


oh and please don't think I don't have a heart - no flames - got my own family history of substance abuse that goes decades back...some even died....


But having kids is like G_d giving ya a second chance to GET IT RIGHT!!  Some people just don't get it....


JMHO (just my HUMBLE opinion)


 


Jails are overflowing because of insane drug laws.
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Anything Billy Mays, any "male enhancement" drug,....
Geico with the cavemen, any "are you behind in taxes" commercial.
My husband is drug tested on a regular basis
for his job, just took 1 yesterday. It can be at any time, when he is arriving or leaving work and being as he has a responsible job, I am totally all for it as he is.
My kids only act out like that if they are sick - get him a strep test! Has he said his stomach hurt
My kids act terrible when they are sick - many times they have gotten in trouble and then later I find out they are sick. Both of them have had strep several times with NO SORE THROAT, NO FEVER, just stomach pain.
Klonopin is a wonderful drug but a benzodiazepam. Be aware of withdrawal.
I was placed on Klonopin during a stressful year when sleep was elusive, leaving me dragging all day.

It worked amazingly. But, there came a time I had to get off of it. I thought I could just stop taking it. Not so. The drug leaving my system placed me in a state that was far worse than the anxiety I took it for. For three months, I had ringing in my ears, was in an agitated state that I likened to listening to fingernails being scraped across a chaulkboard and then having that sound magnified a thousand times.

I watched a show that featured drug addicts in a methadone clinic and one person interviewed said that the worst drug to get off of was "bennies." Worse than heroin and methadone, and I believe him. I also came to realize there are many people hooked on these powerful drugs simply because the withdrawal is so very unpleasant to go through.

I suggest taking it periodically, never more than two weeks in a row. I only wish my doctor would have said that I would become physically addicted to it to the point that medical supervision would be required to stop taking it. Instead, they appeared to think I had developed "drug-seeking behavior" because of my anxious calls to the office when I was experiencing the symptoms.
Sure she is mentally ill and I am sure all the drugs and the drug-laced lollipops didn't help!
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Everybody is making it out like she's the first rock star to have a drug problem and win an award
Beatles, Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, Metallica, Smashing Pumpkins, Eagles, INXS, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, The Doors, and on and on and on. If we only listened to, or gave awards to, the clean and sober musicians, our musical legends would be a completely different list.