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Too many of these stories becoming familiar, in addition to inforcing the death penalty....sm

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-28
In Reply to: Here is another sad story--kills dog and daughter - sm - XXX

I have to ask myself why so much of society these days is behaving in this way, uncontrollable, ugly rage...is it the decay of family units, absentee fathers, is it the abundance of drugs, violence in media....I am old enough to remember a time when these atrocities seemed to be the RARE horror stories, why the abundance now? No God in their worlds?????


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PA death penalty

We actually do have the death penalty in PA...it is just not used that often. 


A sincere ? on the death penalty

Would you watch someone being executed by lethal injection?  What if he murdered your brother?   Your child?  or anyone else close to you?


I know there is no right or wrong answer to this.  I will have to make this decision myself and it's been in my head lately.  I may not know my decision until the day of.


Death Penalty Vs. Life in Jail

What do you think is worse?


I would think being locked in a jail cell for life, with the key thrown away is MUCH worse, than ending their life.


Can you imagine sitting in a cold jail cell, no windows, no tv, no books, no paper and pen, just a room, w/ a toilet, a cot, and bare minimum food to keep you alive.


I think that is worse.


What's the penalty for testing positive?

How long before they can straighten up and test negative?  Does this mean for the rest of their lives, they will never receive any welfare benefits becase they smoked a joint? 


Would I the taxpayer have to pay for the drug testing that is performed this one time or multiple times?  Would I have to pay more taxes when people are homeless?  Would we need more homeless shelters?  What would this cost the taxpayers in the long haul?  Is every applicant tested?  Where is this information for the results of the drug testing stored, in a police database?  What type of rehab if the test is positive would be offered, if any?  Would the person serve time for being under the influence?  Would this cause me to have to serve jury duty more often?  Would they also be screened for alcohol?  What type of future ramifications are in order if and when they do get a job?  Would the prospective employer be notified that welfare was not granted due to drug use/intoxication? 


Not an easy task is it?


 


Just a little ego there. It's a guy. She probably just wanted to sit with someone familiar.
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Not familiar with medication, but is there some way SM
you can cut it in half or quarters and start out taking a tiny amount, then gradually start taking the entire pill? If you are able to do that, your body will get used to it and you will soon be able to consume entire amount.

Or ask doctor is there is something else to try. Good luck to you.
This sounds familiar...

I now have BC/BS as of 01/01/07, but I had Cigna before that (who covered everything).  My gynecologist recommended Mirena placement for SEVERE cramping and menorrhagia for me to prevent hysterectomy which would cause complications due to other medical problems, and was not being placed for contraceptive reasons (I have PCOS).  BC/BS said Mirena was not covered and the explanation was that Mirena as a form of birth control was much too expensive and recommended an oral contraceptive.  Again, it was strongly emphasized to BC/BS that I did not require Mirena for contraception, but for menstrual problems.  I have not used any contraceptive method in almost twenty years...but they denied me.  Well, the strangest part of it all is that they denied me the $675 Mirena placement, but BC/BS sent me a letter and I have been approved for the $3800 hysterectomy, which we were trying to avoid because of possible medical complications related to surgery, which could cost even more.  Go figure!!! 



I'm not familiar with the items you used
but I do definitely try to find natural cures if possible. I flatly refuse to take prescription or OTC cough medications. I make my own, because it's so much better for me, and it doesn't contain all those chemicals that wreak havoc on my body. I have and continue to use herbs for various things. I think it's important to know about alternative cures. There may come a day (and it's here for a lot of people) when we won't be able to get prescription meds, or be able to afford them, and we'll need to know how to take care of ourselves for a lot of things.
Sounds familiar
I live in Saratoga Springs NY about a mile from the track. Come August, same thing. We're too far away to rent out our yard. You DON'T want to try to drive anywhere in town at 6:00 p.m. when the track lets out. But it's exciting and you pick up on all the energy of the city for a month! Nice to get the streets back in September, though.
Anyone familiar with Snellville, GA? SM

Friend of mine is moving there to be with boyfriend.  She said  it's a nice quiet town, but another friend just told me there is a gang problem there.  All I know is, it's a small town.  Can anyone tell me about this town?  Now I'm concerned.  The other friend lives in Marietta, GA. 


Thanks. 


PS


I want to live in Savannah, but that's another story. 


 


Yep. Sounds familiar.
We have upwards of 2 dozen cases in my state. However, officials in my area of the state are neglecting to test people with symptoms.

People are getting this and spreading it as they go because they are told they have a cold or something and they can go back to work or school.

It is on the verge of insane here where I live. I got sick a week ago and ended up in the ER. Two days later, my DH got it too. Will never know what it was because they are not testing people appropriately.
Anyone familiar with scrapbooking software

I love to make scrapbooks.  I am currently working on one a thank you gift to the hostess who allowed us to stay with them on our vacation this past summer.  They are friends of ours and actually took their vacation to vacation with us.  We had a great time in Colorado! 


I'm wondering if anyone has used any of the scrapbook softwares that are out.  I think I might try to do it this way to conserve some time.  Any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.


RUTIN, not familiar with this. Is this a pill? NM
NM
Not familiar with carbon credits - what is that?
Also to change the topic a bit since you mentioned it, what about life on other planets - believer or not? If you believe, do you think we have been visited?
I agree, maybe seeing a familiar name as a donor will encourage others. NM
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Sounds familiar with hubs not wanting any more
cats around. I had an older girl and hubs brought home 2 young guys (he thought when the older one died the 2 younger would take her place, not true of course but he thought that). The older girl died and before long I spoke with him about another kitty. I have loads of room, work is ideal for pets around, he travels so they are loads of company for me but he said absolutely not. Ok, my housekeeper called me 1 day, said kitty up a tree, she would be over when she got it down and I asked her to bring with her as she could not keep. Instant love, not only with me but hubs. I told him the cat had shown up at my house meowing and running from the dog. Well, that was true- she had shown up at the door and had been running from the dog, just not at my home. Gina, my kitty, is now his best friend, follows him around the home, comes for petting and stays in whichever room he is in. It is kitty love for him now.
In addition,
I have found relief with limited use of a tanning bed. Obviously, this is contraversial and has its own drawbacks and possible it may dry skin more, but my problem stems from seborrhea and UV therapy helps. I go about once a week.
New addition

Meet Boo!


Dempsey finally has a sister.  She is a bit of a scaredy cat but she will come around with time.


One addition here
I know where you are going with your post. I know people think you are crazy but you aren't.

Don't people know how to make anything from scratch anymore? Geez.
In addition...
In addition to the point that all those women are somebody's mom, sister, daughter...

If the BF is involved in anything involving underage people, keep in mind that you shouldn't do anything on his computers, and it would probably also be wise to keep your finances completely separate (separate banks even, not just separate accounts).

Why?

Because in the case of anything involving children, EVERY PHOTO OR VIDEO IS ALSO EVIDENCE LEFT BEHIND FROM A CRIME SCENE! Any money he spends on the habit could be traced back to you if you share accounts.

From your most recent post, it seems like the BF doesn't know that you know. That's an interesting place in life. I never had the courage, bravery, stability, or self-esteem to not completely turn into a blubbering pathetic mess every time I stumbled on recent evidence. Mine always knew when I found stuff because I just couldn't handle it quietly. I never found any evidence of child-related stuff, though. I always told myself I could have found the courage to set the trap silently if I did. Thankfully I never needed to.
Well, have to get the word out. How many of you are familiar with Belk Dept. Stores? sm

Well, they bought out our local Parisian Dept. store, promised to come in to our town, buy the building (in our local mall), and then backed out at the last minute. We live in a town of over 300,000.  Anyways, so there is no longer any store there in the mall. They are just like Macy's. etc.


They have THE POOREST CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER (via phone) I've ever encountered. They don't even bill on a 30-day billing cycle, so my payment was due TODAY when I always thought it was the 6th of every month (I last made a payment Oct. 6 and thought I'd pay my bill a few days early) only to find out that the bill would be considered late if not paid by 5 p.m. EST. If I paid it on line like I always do, you MUST make the payment date at least 2 days later than today's date (makes no sense) so next month I would be LATE and charged 35.00. So I call to make a payment. This rude lady tells me: Go into a store and make a payment.  I tell her, "well, we don't have a store within 200+ miles of my home since you guys never did come here,"  Then she says, "Well, you can pay by phone today by 5 but it will cost you an extra 15.00." So, I'm livid. She gets her supe on the phone who is rude as h*** and tells me that she wasn't the one who decided to pay late! OMG!


So, I call husband very upset. To make a long story short, I finally paid it after 3 LONG PHONE CALLS to these fools (all 3 of them were extremely rude).  One guy put me on hold for 15 minutes (I counted!!) after I asked to speak to his supervisor and he gets back on the phone (minus his supervisor) after being put on hold and then I finally pay part of my bill.


Thank GOD Belk isn't around here.    Sounds like a godsend. 


PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE if you work hard, don't shop there! They SUCK** and I will NEVER shop there!!


I have been living that life for the last 2 years. Very familiar story. SM

I have two kids at home and a baby on the way.  My husband keeps gettign laid of jobs due to slow business  Just got word that after Christmas he will be laid off again.  As it is, we can barely afford to feed the family... so dont know what we will do come January when we lose his income.


There are no jobs for him to apply to.  We do not qualify for unemployment for some reason....


And its not like we are lazy or bad people.  All we do is work.  I work 3 different jobs for 3 different MT companies.  I wake up 2 hours before the kids go to school, work while they are in school, and even have to make up soem time at nigth when everyone is sleeping.  That in addition to my husband's job...  we can barely, and I mean barely make it...


Then I spend the rest of my free time cleaning the house, doing dishes, laundry, errands, bills, homework with the kids.  Im pregnant and should be getting more rest.  HA!!  What a joke.


And I know all about the bank fees.  We pay probably 100-200 a month in fees becuase when you live paycheck to paycheck it is just something that happens..  Sorry folks...  Its not about being good a balancing your checkbook... not in these times.  We have to play russian roulette with the monies sometimes.


My husband and myself do not have insurnace.  I do now through Medicade because I am pregnant.  We were hoping to drop the Medicaid when my husband's insurance kicked in... but he got laid off before that happened.  My kids have CHIP, so that is good...  But I am down to my last pair of contacts and I havent taken them out in 2 months because I do not have the extra 100 dollars to make an appt and then 50 for the contacts.


The school hits us up for $$$ every week for this, that, and the other thing... which all that does is take food off our plates.  If one of my kids loses a shoe or needs a winter jacket, etc.... it puts us out.


Not to mention on top of all of that...  My brother-in-law was in a car accident in a car he bought from my husband, but never took the time to put it in his name, and now it is back on us.  We have 30 days to come up with 4000 dollars or my they take my husband's license away.  Sounds crazy huh?  Lawyers say they cannot do that... but they say they can...(the insurance company), but who has money to pay the lawyer for the help??  Not us.


I could go on and on and on and on and on and on.. LIke how it is Christmas, which is hard enough, but on Dec 31st it is my daughter's b-day and then just 3 weeks later it is my other daughter's birthday...  How I am going to give them a nice birthday is beyond me...


Anyway, you are not alone!!!!!  Of course I have never thought about suicide.  That is not an option for me and I cant imagine ever would be... 


If you think that way, you need some medication and therapy real quick!!!!!!  Other than that, what is the worst that can happen?  There has got to be help somewhere... food stamps???  I am going to look into them myself...  I might have to skip on paying rent this month...  and hope the landlord understands... 


Come January 20th, I hope some good things start to happen and we can be on the road to a brighter future... but until then... we have to ride it out somehow.  How, I dont know.  I just take every day at a time... 


And this morning, I cried during my first hour of typing... Typing through the tears.. so you are not alone there either.


Sheila has it right and in addition...sm
You can encourage her to look at her bills and see what she can cut back on. For instance if she pays her own rent then she can do things like be sure to cut off lights, have the A/C set at 78 instead of colder, consolidate trips in the car to save on gas to help free up money for other things.

We give the kids a bonus in our household. For each month the utilities bill come in under the budget amount they get to have 1/2 the savings for entertainment. It sure helps give them an incentive to cut off lights when not in rooms, not stay in the shower until every drop of hot water is drained, etc.

With the increasing cost of gas when we leave home we try to consolidate errands as much as possible. Now instead of going say to Target for odds and ends and then Publix for groceries we go to the Super Wal-Mart where we can get everything at one stop. These little things add up and I'm finding myself now going about 2 days further between fill-ups than I used to.
In addition to the swats or the ISS, I would take away sm
something at home, i.e., TV, cell phone, Ipod, a previous engagement to do something fun. Being late is rude, lazy, and says "hey, look at me, it's all about me" so nip it in the bud right now. Kids today need to be taught to be on time, be polite, and have table manners, etc. Mine do.
In addition to considering the maturity,

I would also consider whether or not there is someone next door (maybe the bus driver you mentioned) that would be willing to "keep an eye" on him and that he could go to in case of emergencies.


I was a latchkey kid at about the age of 11 or 12; however, my older brother was 14 or 15 at the time and my grandma lived across the street from us. 


My oldest son is now in fifth grade, 11 years old, and I have only been allowing him some "home alone" time in the last year.  I really wasn't comfortable with doing that until he was 10, but each child is different. 


I would also caution you to write down some ground rules and maybe just start out by leaving him alone for 1/2 hour here and there to see how he does.  If you're not comfortable with him being home alone, you won't get much work done during that last hour of the day anyway.  Good luck!


In addition to the media, I would also

contact an attorney if the school does nothing.  I've seen a few movies "based on fact" where the school is legally bound to protect your child during school hours.  If the school does nothing and the police do nothing, I would contact an attorney immediately.


 


I am keeping the journal going and in addition...sm
I bought a ceramic cross yesterday with 1 Samuel 1:27 on it which says "For This Child I prayed". I wrote the baby's nickname that my husband & I called it, the EDC and "went to heaven" dates on the front of the cross and it's hanging in our living room next to our family photo.
Congratulations on your new family addition.
Take your dog to the door every 30 to 40 minutes or so and the dog will get the idea that the outside is the place to do its thing. Could MAYBE give a treat when the dog actually goes outside and does not have an accident in the house. But, try to be careful on the treats, they will get accustomed to that really quick. Good luck.
I am so glad i do not have to keep maiden in addition
to all these past names I have had, being on my 4th marriage now. Gosh, that would be 5 names in all, wouldn’t it?
I am personal trainer in addition to an MT
so I am at the gym working out almost every day, and when I am not at the gym, I am on my home treadmill. I like to keep in shape and always have. I find that working out always puts me in a good mood (the endorphin release). I was always active in sports as a kid and have always been very tone and fit. I am also only 25 (26 in September), so my metabolism is pretty fast anyway!
I'd say IN ADDITION to getting a generator as I mentioned above.

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After reading your 2 posts below in addition to this one...
You need to get OUT! In time the kids will know what is going on either way, married or divorced. If you husband has been physically aggressive with you before, who is to say he's not going to have enough of your turning him down one day and come home aggressive again?! I'm worried and I don't even know you. Listen to stories on the news about the women who trusted their husbands implicitly and then one day something snapped in him - don't let that happen to you. Besides, do you want your kids thinking his behavior is a healthy one. Consciously or not, many children model their future marriage skills after their parents. I think you should seek individual counseling and advice from a lawyer. Commonly the first visit does not cost you anything and they will tell you what type of retainer fee they need so you can be working on that. Also, when (hopefully) everything starts to get in motion, get your kids in counseling too. Early is better. Don't wait for problems or issues. A lot of kids are very good at hiding their feelings from their parents. Finally, I must say, as controlling as your husband sounds the only reason he wants you to stay around is financial. Men talk about these things, my husband had told me. You will make out just fine. He'll be the one writing the check - oh, and you can request that it go through the court so you don't have to see/talk to him about the money every month. Good luck to you. Go with your gut. Be sure to let family know what's going on too so they can keep their eyes open and help if needed.
That other board (in addition to not being free) is also
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Here's an addition to your question about layout - sm
that was unbelievable. I was at a Walmart one day to buy jeans. In the unlikely event I find the 'perfect' pair, I usually buy 2 of the same size, 'cause who knows when you'll ever find a perfect pair again, right?

So I'm in the dressing room trying them on, find the perfect pair, and go out to grab another identical pair before heading to the register. Only......

While I was in the dressing room (maybe 10 minutes, tops?), they had completely reconfigured the entire jeans section, and the whole display that had the jeans I wanted was GONE! I spent another half-hour looking for them, and never did find them, even when I asked an employee, who was of course clueless.

So, I guess Walmart is kind of like the weather in the mountains. If you don't like what you see, wait 10 minutes and it'll change!
In addition to the black oil sunflower seeds,

cardinals also love safflower seeds.  Extra bonus -- squirrels will not eat safflower seeds.  Cardinals also require a platform type feeder as opposed to a perch feeder. 


We have had very few cardinals this year, which is quite unusual.  Two winters ago I counted 19 all at once.  It was after a heavy snow and it was quite a sight. 


Love them birds!


Important addition to MIL problem directly below this posting

Oh, by the way, 3 weeks ago my DH told my MIL that I was upset with her and why. She made light of it, explaining that she was just "joking" and "being funny" and of course she didn't mean anything by it.


If it were my son telling me that I had offended my DIL in some way I would call her immediately and talk it through. However, my phone has not rung yet, and I'm pretty sure it's not going to.


I can see her sitting over there coiled like a king cobra expecting me on Thanksgiving and I'm so uncomfortable just thinking about it.


My husband said that she was just joking and to suck it up (again), and just go over. I'm really stressed out about this. Any suggestions would be great.


Actually, some of the stories are right on
I have read these tabloids since very early age, probably 10 or so as my mother bought. Years ago the National Enquirer was really bad, showing wreck scenes and the like. Lots of their stories are paid for- say a celebrity is in the hospital-someone there has information and they can sell it and do. I have worked in the past where some of the big names in civil rights and baseball teams have gone and I have known about things going on- I do not tell these things even to my family and would never sell but you have people who do this and paid big bucks for doing so. Lots of stories are really dead on the money- takes awhile for issues to perhaps come out in the newspapers or your local news but I have read stories and then several months later have seen where they are accurate. Some of the tabloids are outlandish- but people who buy know the difference.
lately? these stories have been around before this generation.
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Love these stories sm
Keep them coming, keeps up the humor. I also had an aunt who did not cook and the one and only time she invited us over, she left the giblets inside and needless to say, the dinner was scrubbed. My mother said she was not surprised as my aunt was useless in the kitchen anyway. My aunt, by the way, was a hoot and the only thing I can remember about her was that she was a lot of fun and always made things very interesting. I think it would have been out of character for her to be Martha.
I'm sure there are lots of stories

about angels, too.  I have never "seen" angels, but I have often seen them at work.  I thank the Lord for providing protection through them.  Whenever I have a "near-miss" I thank the Lord. 


My husband told me once when he was trying to change lanes, the steering wheel pulled itself right back so he couldn't.  There was a car in his blind spot!   


I remember once one of my kids running down the sidewalk and fell.  From where I stood it looked like he cracked his head on the step in front of him.  I cringed, but when I got to him he was fine.  I just know an angel put his hand between the step and his precious head. 


My mom was driving one day and didn't see that the intersection was icy.  She tried to stop but started sliding.  She slid into the path of an oncoming car.  She closed her eyes and braced for impact but...nothing.  She opened her eyes and the car was past her.  She said there was no way he could have missed her. 


These are angel stories. 


Demons are fallen angels.  They chose to worship Satan.  They exist to torment and cause people anguish.  Angels exist to praise God and they also provide divine intervention and protection for people. 


These stories are just AWFUL. :(
Don't people realize family members can leave us forever in the blink of an eye?  Life is WAY too short to put golf or shopping or anything such nonsense before visiting family.  Man, even if it's only for an hour or two, it can really make their day.  How horribly sad.
 
Addendum: In addition to have warp speed internet connection; just short of having my own server.

How we got him weaned - and other funny stories
Starting school is what weaned him. We just sat him down and explained that I could not come to school for him to have his "milk break" - I nursed him in the evenings for a week, and then he was weaned. I'll relate a funny story about him nursing in a new post - you'll get a real laugh out of it -
Most of her stories should stay in her family
just nutsy. Having the ability to breastfeed makes absolutely no difference in how a child turns out, the upbringing does and this entire family just sounds bonkers. I am really loving the posts about bringing drinks to the team, HA and point and shoot like machine guns, HA, HA.. Great posts you all.....
You might be a redneck (true stories) (sm)

If your husband nails a wooden duck and wooden dog that your children painted to your back door (underneath the wooden back-to-back swans painted black that his mother made for you.....


(yep, my back door) haha!  - anyone else have a redneck family member(s)? Did anyone marry a redneck they didn't realize was one beforehand?


 


Need GOOD mother-in-law stories sm

I inadvertently posted for this on the Autoimmune Board this AM and admin hasn't switched it over yet, but I did get 2 nice answers on there, so I will try on the "correct" board now. I really need to hear from some people who have some positive feedback about their MIL's. I guess it was a freudian slip that I did it there because I am in a lot of pain every day. I try very hard to be a good MIL but sometimes I get a lot of flack and I blame it on the TV shows, movies and anything else that will generate big bucks from this campaign. I am a little tired of it all and really am making a concentrated effort to put together something positive about mothers-in-law in general, or step-mothers-in-law. Jeez, we deserve a break sometimes, dontcha think?? My MIL taught me how to drive, my hubby never would have as he kind of likes me to depend on him. Albeit, she may have had an ulterior motive, to get me out to work (which I did) but at least she let me crash her car a few times. Does anyone out there have anything POSITIVE to say about their MIL? I'd really like to hear it. I could use a boost! Thanks


PS: I've done a lot, free babysitting, helping buy a house, lots of things, but I'm still "his mother" and can't seem to do anything right. I never forget a special occasion and try to be thoughtful. Gosh, I'm tired! Can't we drop the stigmata of Monster-In-Law? Please say something nice.


I would also look up stories of teenage car accidents (sm)
and show them to her, the more sad and terrible the better. I would take her on a tour of the juvenile detention center in your town. I would drive through downtown at night with her and let her see how people live on the streets. I would look up every case of STDs I could find and show her pictures. I would get just as blatant as she is. If my child ever said F* you to me, I would know it was time to jump into action. I would purposely try to scare the cr*p out of her by showing her reality. And if I had to, I would let her to to a drug rehab or juvenile detention for a while, to let her wake up.
Sorry I had hit reply to the one down below about inspirational stories
His name is Nick Vujicic if you search you tube for his name or for "Life Without Limbs" you can find all kinds of videos on him. There is one that shows how he gets around during the day, it's amazing!
On Hollywood True Stories I think one
of her doctors said she had RSD which causes intractable pain, caused by her dancing all these years which caused back and neck problems. Also, when she was married to Emilio Estavez (spelling) there were in a plane crash and she suffered severe injuries to her spine.
Thanks everyone for sharing your stories, very interesting. sm
I am sorry for those of you that took my statement about the alcoholics incorrectly. I was not meaning every person who goes to bars is an alcoholic, just paraphrasing and saying an example. I do know some people go there to meet others but I don't have a good track record with guys. I am attracted to the bad guys and wondering how to change that and seek out the good ones if there are any out there not taken and where to find them at!
Just Read Some More Stories About The Hodgkin's Boy
I still feel for the mom, I really do. However, from what I was reading at ABCNews, it appears the dad might not be in agreement with the mom's choices. That seems like such a tough position for the family to be in, ya know?

Also, there was a child who is now an adult mentioned in the story on ABCNews. He was 16 when he fled to avoid chemo for Hodgkin's. He never did have treatment, and he's still alive.

It makes me seriously question whether there actually might be non-chemo treatments for Hodgkin's that really work. It sounds like the long-term prognosis for Hodgkin's would be pretty good even without chemo in some cases?