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When amount of this for social security people and when?

Posted By: Thanks for the info on 2009-02-23
In Reply to: No check, - just

Do you have a link for this info, pls.


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People on social security who pay no taxes
got back as individual $600 each last time and I know for a fact as my 85 year old aunt was one of those.
I have a question about Social Security and Medicare for people who don't work (sm)

My SIL has worked exactly 3 (count them) 3 months in her entire lazy life.  They took bankruptcy a couple of years ago, of course she wasn't going to go to work and help out then because she said "it's not my fault we are in this mess."  Now my brother is coming up to within 10 years of retirement and actually has problems with arthritis that may cause him to have to retire sooner.  She insists that she should be given a social security check when she "retires" and that she should be eligible for medicare when my brother retires.  She is several years younger than him and I tried to tell her she will have to get out and get private insurance for herself until she is of age.  She insists the government "owes this to her".  I would like to string her up to the highest tree, but I am told that is illegal also. 


Am I crazy?  She certainly can't be put on Medicare just because her husband is eligible can she? 


I think she just figures she will either live on his SS benefits or kill him off with the side jobs in addition to his FT job he has been trying to do to keep her in the style she wants to become accustomed and then be eligible for widow's benefits. 


I guess I really don't understand the SS and Medicare issues, just hoping someone could shed some light on this. 


She simply REFUSES to work regardless of how much they have needed the money and/or benefits.  Can't watch your soaps if you work all day and that is very important to her.  GRRRR.  Sorry to vent.  Will go mind my own business now.


 


 


Social security

She will receive social security at a rate of 50% of what he receives as long as they have been married for 10 years.  Am not sure if you can begin to collect this at age 6 or have to wait until 65 or 66.  As far as medicare goes though, she is not eligible for this until she reaches 65/66 unless she is deemed disabled and not able to work and then she goes on SSI.   Up to 3 wives-ex-wives can receive 50% of what the husband's social security allotment is without reduction but it never reduces the husband's amount. (as long as they have been married for 10 years).   They did this so that all of the older ladies that never worked in the 40's 50's etc. could receive something when they retired as long as their husband was eligible.  Now if he should die, she will receive more and that will stay in effect until she dies.   With as expensive as Medicare and supplements are becoming it is no longer a deal to get Medicare and hardly any docs will take Medicare "only". 


Patti


Do you get social security now and if so
how old when you started? I am past the age of starting but want to reach full retirement age for me so I can double dip.
Social Security
There is some reason that you should take Soc. Security when you are eligible.  You can still work--I think up to a certain amount if you are younger than 65.  At 65 you can make as much as you want.  They say this is some kind of window--working right before or at the point of getting SS ultimately raises the amount.  There is a five-year window that is important.  I suggest you get some info from the SS office or a local AARP office or Senior info.  I have come back from "retirement" so I am facing these same things.  Oh, and by the way.  You--my sister (and occasionally brother) MTs--My People--you are all just as crazy as you always were.  And thankfully!  This message board did not exist the last time I did MT.  Cool! 
Can anyone tell me that is on social security how they figure how much to deduct if you go over what
you are allowed to make per month.  I did speak to them but I just wondered if someone on here has done this at all. 
Found it on Social Security website $250 by May 2009 nm
m
I stand corrected. Here's the info from the Social Security website...
Even if he or she has never worked under Social Security, your spouse at full retirement age can receive a benefit equal to one-half of your full retirement amount and can qualify on your record for Medicare at age 65. (If your spouse will receive a pension for work not covered by Social Security such as government or foreign employment, the amount of his or her Social Security benefits on your record may be reduced.)

Your spouse can begin collecting the benefits as early as age 62, but the benefit amount will be permanently reduced by a percentage based on the number of months up to his or her full retirement age.

Your spouse who is caring for your child who is also receiving benefits can receive the full one-half benefit amount no matter what his or her age is. Your spouse would receive these benefits until the child reaches age 16. At that time, the child's benefits continue, but your spouse's benefits stop unless he or she is old enough to receive retirement benefits (age 62 or older) or survivor benefits as a widow or widower (age 60).

If your spouse has also worked under Social Security--If your spouse is eligible for retirement benefits on his or her own record, we will always pay that amount first. But if the spouse benefit on your record is a higher amount, he or she will get a combination of benefits that equals that higher amount. It doesn't matter if your spouse starts getting benefits before, after, or at the same time you do--we will check both records to make sure that your spouse gets the higher amount.

If your spouse continues to work while receiving benefits, the same earnings limits apply to him or her as apply to you. If your spouse is eligible for benefits this year and is also working, you can use our earnings test calculator to see how those earnings would affect your spouse's benefit payments. (Your spouse's earnings affect only his or her own benefits; they do not affect your benefits or those of any other beneficiaries on your record.)

For Medicare, from that section it reiterates what I said...

Medicare is health insurance for people age 65 or older, under age 65 with certain
disabilities, and any age with End-Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure
requiring dialysis or a kidney transplant).

no but usually irresponsible people in poor social
yes I had one and i was all of the above!! Now i'm on Depo and don't have that problem anymore
sure - if we can get thru security!

i do feel bad for you tho.  i need the sun and warmth.  sun i have in northern Nevada but warmth - not so much!!


Thank you someone for having a little bit of security!
My husband looks at different sites and also buys movies. I could give a flip. I too do not consider that cheating. He jokingly said to me one time...where do you think I learn all these tricks! We are very happy in the BR. Too much info? My only request is that he not hide this from me. He used to go on different sites and actually joined until they bombarded his email with junk and kept asking for his credit card #. Said once he saw the prices it was all a joke. Webcams would probably be a different story as well. Especially chatting during this time. Mine is not that computer oriented YET!(?)

Yes internet porn can be an addiction, or any form for that matter. I just feel you married him for some reason? Did you know know anything about this side of him or that he was interested in porn or perhaps this is something a "so called" friend has turned him on to?

It just kills me to see that so many people are willing to just up and leave thier marriage and have you do the same. Your marriage should be sacred enough that you would be willing to express your feelings to him and tell him it hurts you. Or, go by some "toys" and do some fake chatting yourself and see how he likes it.

Comedian Monique said one time, 'women...do what ever it takes to keep your man' (within reason) because if you don't someone else will!

I don't mean tie yourself to the bedpost and such right off the bat, but sit him down and talk with him. You are both young. Maybe there is something missing in the relationship that you both need to work on. At least start somewhere and express your feelings.

I mean after all if he is looking at cars does that mean he's fixing to buy one!
security
You do have to live with people you don't love.

Love is a verb, not a feeling.

If I got the boot every time my kids didn't love me?
The security firm .... sm

was hired by her "interests" from what I can glean from just going and doing some quick searches, and if they're the ones ordering all the privacy stuff, then that goes on their bill, which in turn goes to her. I'll admit I haven't kept up on this closely, so I'm just going by doing some quick searches on Google news, (and of course, believe nothing you read and only half of what you see) but considering the news would dearly love to throw out the fact that taxpayers were paying for this, if it were true, then I would think it's probably true that this is all going on a nice big tab for her.


My cousin had the same kind of order years ago and I promise he got the hospital bill 30 days after getting out, so do you really think she won't, considering she's worth upwards of $40 million?


It's all a moot point, she needs help, hopefully she can get it, and get some modicum of normalcy back in her life, and move forward, and probably end up there again when the paparazzi once again gets her in their sights.


For that small amount, can't you take
xx
Such a minute amount but what I was
saying anyone who has a huge amount on their card really cannot stand to take a chance with not paying on time- I am sure would not have a problem having it written off- they love me because 2nd time I have paid off totally and always on time (not this small amount though) and the last time over 10 thou paid off. I will probably call them anyway.
Would never give this amount sm
withot consulting my spouse. I think it's kind of sneaky on his part, that's a large amount to keep from your wife. I would be fuming and think you have a right to be flaming mad. I don't know about the cheating aspect, she probably found an ear to bend and drives him nuts but he won't admit it. She found herself a Santa and he's probably sorry he did it. See how it goes. Next time he has an appointment, if it were me, I'd hang around the parking lot, but that's me, I'm not sure it's something you would want to do. I certainly would!
Re the amount of effort
OMG - I had two teenagers who were 19 months apart.  Yes, it was hard and sometimes I just had to turn my head and pretend that was not my child.  The effort and sacrifices are great, especially at prom time and when they start driving.  I am glad I had mine young.  I think it helped me get through it.  I do believe that kids/teenagers are going to get in trouble for something.  That's their job and it is a way of life.  I just tried to put myself in their place when I was that age (I did much worse things actually).  That is also another reason why they could not get by with much.  I had done it all and knew what to expect.  Even so, no matter what my kids ever did and whether I trusted them or not, I always let them know and told them I loved them more than anything all the time (even if they had hurt me).  I gave them my all and taught them to appreciate it.  I put them through college and they put themselves through grad school.  I was not sure the youngest would even graduate high school.  They always knew I loved them with all my heart and I believe most of the time that pays off.  One day all that effort and sacrifice will be worth it.
I personally saw security asking person to
put out cigarette prior to entering the Bellagio when I was there. I have gone to a lot of the casinos there looking around and you might fool yourself but I would never be fooled as to think some of your upper class places have much less than say Circus, Circus- Flamingo and Tropicana heavy with smoke, Golden Nugget was the worse though.
i find my internet security
and such too valuable to rely on free anything. i use Nortons Security Pkg and you can find brand new ones on ebay very reasonable.
Yes. The formula is you say, "You have X amount for
When she runs out, she does without until her budget allows more entertainment money.

It isn't about the money, though. Her issue is with learning priorities for needs versus wants.

You've waited a little late if she's 22. My boys budgeted their money as mid teens and as young men do great.

Kids usually learn spending habits from parents - by example or by allowance.

Apparently they are setting a certain amount you can use and if you go beyond that they can
either disconnect you for a year or charge you for the extra that you use.  This is Comcast.  I expect all the internet companies will follow suit so many are saying the internet as we know it is now going to change and become more expensive to use and we will only be allowed a base amount of usage for our flat fee we pay and beyond that we may have to pay extra for however much more we use in increments.  Time will tell what happens I guess.  What can you do. 
a question of amount of effort
If I had to do it over again, yes.

But I am having a hard time seeing where the amount of sacrifices I made is paying off in these "teenage years."

I think the payoff for being a good enough parent just might be raising "good enough" kids who become "good enough" parents, so you don't end up raising your grandkids....(and end up with a second chance to get it right).


I've had problems with security warning pop-ups...

and no matter what I change my settings to, I still get them.  There is no "Don't snow this again" option either. I get them while working on a Sten-Tel platform.  It really slows me down, as I have to do some things several times before they actually go through.  It also adds another toolbar...just what we all need.  That just cuts down the viewable size on your monitor. 


I tried to get IE6 back, which you can't do even with a system restore, but then read about the mandatory automatic "upgrade" so quit trying to get rid of IE7.  Hopefully they may issue some fixes. 


Could be issues with 9-1-1 service and if you have a security system (sm)
I think most home security systems require a land line to work. There are some possible issues with being able to call 9-1-1 without a land line - in case you can't talk and tell them where you are.
Two months is quite a short amount of time....
You need to take your time and keep YOUR options open! You may meet Mr. Right while you're seeing this guy. In two months, you probably don't even know his favorite color yet. Don't rush these things. If he is the one, he will figure it out and not want to see anyone else. Good luck! I hope this works out for you.
Maybe good money for the amount of hours sm
but no enough for what actucally goes into the job.
Smaller total amount of more feedings?
Have you tried feeding him more than 2-3 times a day and just putting a smaller overall amount in the dish? He might think he's actually getting more.
Do you have dirty dishes or excess amount
of trash that needs to be taken out?
We did lose some money, but not a huge amount
We have three different ones that we've been keeping an eye on.
Try Alton Brown's suggestion for the amount of

grounds to use.  As he points out, you can always dilute.  Here is the article:


http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/true-brew-recipe/index.html


a small amount of chocolate is 2-3 squares, not more.
Portions sizes are always very small, see below...

The Look of Normal Portion Sizes

1 oz. meat: size of a matchbox
3 oz. meat: size of a deck of cards or bar of soap—the recommended portion for a meal
8 oz. meat: size of a thin paperback book
3 oz. fish: size of a checkbook
1 oz. cheese: size of 4 dice
Medium potato: size of a computer mouse
2 Tbs. peanut butter: size of a ping pong ball
1/2 cup pasta: size of a tennis ball
Average bagel: size of a hockey puck.

a small amount of chocolate is 2-3 squares, not more.
Portions sizes are always very small, see below...

The Look of Normal Portion Sizes

1 oz. meat: size of a matchbox
3 oz. meat: size of a deck of cards or bar of soap—the recommended portion for a meal
8 oz. meat: size of a thin paperback book
3 oz. fish: size of a checkbook
1 oz. cheese: size of 4 dice
Medium potato: size of a computer mouse
2 Tbs. peanut butter: size of a ping pong ball
1/2 cup pasta: size of a tennis ball
Average bagel: size of a hockey puck.

a small amount of chocolate is 2-3 squares, not more.
Portions sizes are always very small, see below...

The Look of Normal Portion Sizes

1 oz. meat: size of a matchbox
3 oz. meat: size of a deck of cards or bar of soap—the recommended portion for a meal
8 oz. meat: size of a thin paperback book
3 oz. fish: size of a checkbook
1 oz. cheese: size of 4 dice
Medium potato: size of a computer mouse
2 Tbs. peanut butter: size of a ping pong ball
1/2 cup pasta: size of a tennis ball
Average bagel: size of a hockey puck.

great post! - only a difference in amount of melanin

the only difference I see is the amount of melanin in the skin........BEST of luck to you - Enjoy it while you feel it!!! 


It's ALL good!!   


We didn't even spend half that amount on each of our kids.
Of course, our kids told us about their spoiled rotten friends who all got electric guitars, multiple gaming systems, flat panel TVs for their bedrooms, cell phones, mp3 players, etc. Then the little boy from across the street came over and told me what he got for Christmas, which wasn't much at all. I felt so bad for the little guy. If I had known they didn't have much, I would have bought for his family instead of my 25+ family and friends who don't even need anything. I refuse to buy into it all for my own kids. If they want all the electronics, they can work and save up for it, and then only with my permission. No unlimited Internet, no texting, no M, R or T rated movies and games. I just don't believe children need all that junk. DH and I grew up just fine without it.
She probably wouldn't have made it though airport security with the crack pipe anyway.... LOL
x
i know it is wearing on you but the recommend amount of timeout is 1 minute for each year of age.
nm
I used to do plainclothes security work for a major upscale dept store - sm
Summer was my best time to arrest the teenage girls.  They did not seem to take it seriously until the police showed up to take them downtown.  I did have a few concerned mothers come by the store to speak with me.  Just a lot of temptation out there...I would say to be very suspicious of clothing and such that seems to appear without having the money to pay for it. 
I know I'm a bit of a social oddball, but
I like to be upfront and lay things out on the table, so I would talk to her and let her know how I was feeling. This approach does not work well with everyone, surprisingly to me . . . LOL. Most people say they want that, but it does not seem to hold true. Personally, I do not see how relationships work without complete honesty.

I think that you would at least feel better if you talked to her. Good luck whatever you decide!


social animals
Rodents, rats especially, are very very social animals and are intelligent and desire human contact. I've had 6 diff rats, all are passed away now cause they only last a few years, but they are very playful and will play with you and like to be held, petted and carried around. The more you do that the more friendly they get!

Have fun!
Larege amount of horses at packing plants/feed lots
coincidentally happen to be TBs.  They are a huge throw-away market.  Once they are done racing, unless they are one of the incredibly lucky few to be adopted out to knowledgable homes for other careers or are of breeding quality, they usually don't wind up in too good of a place afterwards.   I'm a nobody, and I've had 3 of these throw-aways land in my lap.  Yes, there are some responsible owners/breeders who ensure these animals are taken care of for the rest of their days, racing career or not, then there are an awful lot of others who see them as the cash crops they are and nothing more. 
The slain social worker one? nm
.
social services should be contacted
to look at this family. It might be futile, but good grief, something needs to happen. That is unreal, beyond bizarre.
My daughter was a very social butterfly
nm
Do they by any chance have a social worker you...
could contact? That way, if the social worker stepped in no one in the family would really be so "involved" and it might save hard feelings further down the road but might have the same results.
What woman? What social worker?
We need a little more info to go on if anyone's going to try to help you out on this!  You've got me intrigued, though!  Lee
Check social services
your local salvation army, cancer center, and local hospitals. THERE IS HELP for you without insurance. Please don't give up. There are options. It just takes a little research and if you are working from home you must have the internet. I know things seem bad, but they could always get worse. Sometimes I need to remind myself of that to get out of bed in the morning.
I have 5. All MTs. I would like a broader social circle
xx
Social Services Visiting

The main thing I'd say is to remain calm and explain to the investigator like you did here.  Their job is to sort out the truth from the fiction.  I was investigated once because my MTSO made false accusations about me to the police. 


I had to answer questions I didn't enjoy but when the interview was over the investigator was done she told me she believed me and I had nothing to worry about, but if the accuser made another call they'd file harassment charges against me. 


The truth is the truth and they'll sort it out.  Patience will serve you well. 


Why was the post on social isolation deleted??
I was going to post a response to this and see the thread is gone!  It was just posted a few minutes ago and I'm wondering what happened here. 
Update on social worker from my post the other day (sm)

I posted the other day about where I had seen that social worker before, and couldn't find her on the cast list - wouldn't have helped if I had.  I was watching Sally Field on the Boniva commercial and it popped into my head.  Social worker was on that Boniva commercial where those 4 women were supposed to be being quiet in a museum.  Isn't it funny how the brain works?  - haha - especially mine.