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Larege amount of horses at packing plants/feed lots

Posted By: Hayseed on 2007-01-29
In Reply to: racehorses - me

coincidentally happen to be TBs.  They are a huge throw-away market.  Once they are done racing, unless they are one of the incredibly lucky few to be adopted out to knowledgable homes for other careers or are of breeding quality, they usually don't wind up in too good of a place afterwards.   I'm a nobody, and I've had 3 of these throw-aways land in my lap.  Yes, there are some responsible owners/breeders who ensure these animals are taken care of for the rest of their days, racing career or not, then there are an awful lot of others who see them as the cash crops they are and nothing more. 


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You are ignorant about feed lots.
There are many large feed lots for horses that are fattened up and then sent to one of the 3 big slaughter houses in Texas to be sent off to Belgium, Japan, etc, in the form of steaks.  I have myself rescued riding horses from auction by outbidding the killer buyers.  There are bills pending that will outlaw this terrible thing, but the administration of Bush is against the bill and is supportive of the horse slaughter trade.  I have known individuals over the years, being a horse owner and lover, that would buy horses and then fatten them up and resell them to kill buyers or to the slaughter house themselves.  Many of these were horses that weren't fast enough on the track to make money, and also good riding horses, they were just worth more as meat.  Go to any horse auction and you will see good horses going for slaughter just because that is who is the highest bidder.  It is a heartbreaking experience.
I think once disgust happens, lots of therapy is needed to feel love again. Lots
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She needs more than just packing tips sm
She just told her father and I that she changed the message on our answering machine. We listened "Hi, the Hurts are in New York right now so we won't be able to call you back for about a week." This is a straight A student Geesh! Don't know what she was thinking, actucally she wasn't thinking at all.LOL
packing materials

Your comment reminded me of my mother telling me that during WWII when she sent packages to our family members she used popcorn for packing material so that everything in the box would be a treat.  I always thought it was a great idea.


and those horses are out there now, 10:54 a.m.
love it!!!!  Love seeing the animals out there!!  And what a beautiful sky this lovely morning!!!  Lots of pink in the sky there.  *S*
Moving/packing tips???
My husband and I are moving to another state on FRIDAY!!! I can't believe how quickly the moving date has come around. We still have well over half of our packing to do. Do you guys have any tips or motivation techniques to get my butt in gear? I do NOT want to have to be up until 2:00 in the morning Thursday night, but that's what it is starting to look like. HELP!!!
I started packing last month,
but have slacked off. We're leaving in 3 weeks for another state too. All I can suggest is try to do 1 room at a time, throw out anything you haven't used in a year or so, and try to clean as you go. We're having DH friends help us move stuff into the truck, then my friend and I are going to be cleaning as they pack and do the heavy stuff. I try to do a little bit every day but have been slacking the last couple days.

Also, if you have cats or dogs, lock them in a room the day you are moving and post a do not enter sign on the door so they don't try to escape as they can tell what's going on. Mine are going on the patio until we're all done.

Good luck with your move
packing tips for the 14yo and Today (sm)
If you're not already gone...

My daughter went to NY with a high school tour a couple summers ago. They went to the Today show and Dave Price stole her basketball!! It was some promotion they were doing where some of the crowd was given a basketball. He wanted to use it for his segment, grabbed it from her, and never gave it back!!

I did see her on TV, but she didn't look her happy self. Poor thing!

It was funny because even though we live in Florida, we had the NY feed when Dave Price was on a local NY channel and she just LOVED him. But after he stole her basketball, she was not as fond. LOL.

Oh, and the packing. Quick, fast, easy, and it keeps clothes in somewhat good condition is to roll them tight. It's easy for kids to do, especially impatient, busy teens.

Have fun!!
I think Hayseed's piglet and her horses....

are her CHILDREN.....and so she takes care of them like one takes care of their children....SHOOT - YA GOTTA GIVE HAYSEED TREMENDOUS KUDOS for all she does on her farm/land.  I get to see the animals on her webcam and they are out there everyday several times a day.  It takes me away (CALGON - TAKE ME AWAY) and I begin to feel like I'm in Maine (New England where my paternal family is from), which takes me away from summer and more summer in Florida where I currently live.


KUDOS TO HAYSEED!!!! 


that i used to ride race horses,
that i've been a crime victim more than once, that i'm a descendant of Eric the Red and Leif Erickson...gosh, lots more!!
BTW, my 14yr old daughter wants packing tips. Any sugestions? nm
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Wow! How nice, really beautiful, you are lucky to have horses!...nm
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rode race horses in the morning.
and MT'd at night -- the best of both worlds, with both my mind and body fit :)

i guess my worst job was working in a movie theater -- it required no skill whatsoever.
Does he show the horses or trail ride?
We have horses.  There's ALWAYS something you need or want.  How about a gift certificate to his favorite tack store?  Or something special he wouldn't buy himself for riding?  There's a lot of catalogs that cater to horse owners that have some really cool gifts.  LOL, one of the gifts my 12 yo neice has on her Christmas list is a gift certificate to Tractor Supply, yeah I know, you might be a redneck if . . . .
Good luck but horses don't change colors

I so get not wanting *to leave with regrets* - so do your thing and don't waste the same amount of time you might have prior!! 



Plants
Put a plant on it! If it is big, a large fern ought to do it!
all of those plants are pretty well known -
but how many flower arrangements have lillies - and I had never heard about that.  So - no cut flowers either.  Nope, he had never had any wet food in his entire life.  The vet is still perplexed - we have done renal ultrasounds and blood work.  His BUN and creatinines were off the charts.  I frankly don't know how he is still alive at this point. 
Me, too. My plastic plants die. nm
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They don't seem to bother my plants
at all.  They do, however, ravage my birdfeeders this time of  year and throughout the winter. I used to wage war against them but I've softened in  my old age.  Now I figure they need to eat and survive too so I just let them be.
Fertilize the plants with him. (NM)
NM
How do you clean artificial plants? (sm)
Seriously - the green ones (not flowers) how do you get the dust off of them?  LOL
For that small amount, can't you take
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Such a minute amount but what I was
saying anyone who has a huge amount on their card really cannot stand to take a chance with not paying on time- I am sure would not have a problem having it written off- they love me because 2nd time I have paid off totally and always on time (not this small amount though) and the last time over 10 thou paid off. I will probably call them anyway.
Would never give this amount sm
withot consulting my spouse. I think it's kind of sneaky on his part, that's a large amount to keep from your wife. I would be fuming and think you have a right to be flaming mad. I don't know about the cheating aspect, she probably found an ear to bend and drives him nuts but he won't admit it. She found herself a Santa and he's probably sorry he did it. See how it goes. Next time he has an appointment, if it were me, I'd hang around the parking lot, but that's me, I'm not sure it's something you would want to do. I certainly would!
Re the amount of effort
OMG - I had two teenagers who were 19 months apart.  Yes, it was hard and sometimes I just had to turn my head and pretend that was not my child.  The effort and sacrifices are great, especially at prom time and when they start driving.  I am glad I had mine young.  I think it helped me get through it.  I do believe that kids/teenagers are going to get in trouble for something.  That's their job and it is a way of life.  I just tried to put myself in their place when I was that age (I did much worse things actually).  That is also another reason why they could not get by with much.  I had done it all and knew what to expect.  Even so, no matter what my kids ever did and whether I trusted them or not, I always let them know and told them I loved them more than anything all the time (even if they had hurt me).  I gave them my all and taught them to appreciate it.  I put them through college and they put themselves through grad school.  I was not sure the youngest would even graduate high school.  They always knew I loved them with all my heart and I believe most of the time that pays off.  One day all that effort and sacrifice will be worth it.
IGood smelling plants/flowers?
I love nice smell! I have loads of green plants in my home but would like to have ideas of something I can have on a regular basis inside that gives off a nice fragance. I do not have a clue as to what to buy and I would really like to know of something that would not require too much care. I can do the plants but do not have much of a green thumb. Thanks!
Dull leaves on my household plants
Ok, I give up. What can you use to make the leaves shiny, mayonnaise or baby oil or just what? Thanks
For really big plants, I put cotton socks on my hands and just rub
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I have heard you can apply hot pepper to plants
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Yes. The formula is you say, "You have X amount for
When she runs out, she does without until her budget allows more entertainment money.

It isn't about the money, though. Her issue is with learning priorities for needs versus wants.

You've waited a little late if she's 22. My boys budgeted their money as mid teens and as young men do great.

Kids usually learn spending habits from parents - by example or by allowance.

Apparently they are setting a certain amount you can use and if you go beyond that they can
either disconnect you for a year or charge you for the extra that you use.  This is Comcast.  I expect all the internet companies will follow suit so many are saying the internet as we know it is now going to change and become more expensive to use and we will only be allowed a base amount of usage for our flat fee we pay and beyond that we may have to pay extra for however much more we use in increments.  Time will tell what happens I guess.  What can you do. 
a question of amount of effort
If I had to do it over again, yes.

But I am having a hard time seeing where the amount of sacrifices I made is paying off in these "teenage years."

I think the payoff for being a good enough parent just might be raising "good enough" kids who become "good enough" parents, so you don't end up raising your grandkids....(and end up with a second chance to get it right).


Lots and lots of SKATING ! - sm
Mostly inline street skating, up & down hills, too. Some roller skating and roller-disco. I was doing ice-skating, but can't afford it anymore, plus I prefer to skate outdoors. It works all muscles, is low-impact, fairly quick to learn compared to other sports, like skiing, is a cheap sport, and excellent for keeping balance & reflexes sharp. Most of the people I skate with look & act 10-20 years younger than their chronological ages.

I MAKE the time to skate. I eat my lunch at my desk, but take a break in the late afternoon before it gets dark, to exercise. This can also include a walk or jog around the neighborhood, bike ride into town to go to the market (cheaper than driving), a fast inline skate around town, or dance practice on a local tennis court. Then I work into the evening for as long as it takes to finish up.
Anyone have any ideas on how to clean artificial plants, flowers?
I do have the real things in my home but in the bedroom I have several plants and/or flowers that really need a good dusting. I do not think I should put them under water. I would rather have the real plants all over the house but have to be careful of some because of my furkids. Thanks!
I can't keep plants alive, lucky my children are still living. nm
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Can't give you any advice of keeping plants alive, I'm
lucky my children are still living. LOL!
Plants will attract gnats, as will ripe fruit.
If the gnats are congregated in one area, sticky bug cards will help catch them for you. Or you can kill them by spraying them directly with an ammonia-based cleaner like many glass-cleaning formulas.
I feed the 6 of us
with about 120/wk. We eat ham & beans, pasta, eggs for dinner, and different casseroles. I always make my dinner list for the week, and plan my shopping from there. It helps me to stay on budget, and not impulse shop. I stay stocked up on personal items (like tp, deodorant, shampoo, etc) by catching them on sale or getting one item each week. I don't let the kids snack alot because that adds up.


Two months is quite a short amount of time....
You need to take your time and keep YOUR options open! You may meet Mr. Right while you're seeing this guy. In two months, you probably don't even know his favorite color yet. Don't rush these things. If he is the one, he will figure it out and not want to see anyone else. Good luck! I hope this works out for you.
Maybe good money for the amount of hours sm
but no enough for what actucally goes into the job.
Smaller total amount of more feedings?
Have you tried feeding him more than 2-3 times a day and just putting a smaller overall amount in the dish? He might think he's actually getting more.
Do you have dirty dishes or excess amount
of trash that needs to be taken out?
We did lose some money, but not a huge amount
We have three different ones that we've been keeping an eye on.
When amount of this for social security people and when?
Do you have a link for this info, pls.
Try Alton Brown's suggestion for the amount of

grounds to use.  As he points out, you can always dilute.  Here is the article:


http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/true-brew-recipe/index.html


a small amount of chocolate is 2-3 squares, not more.
Portions sizes are always very small, see below...

The Look of Normal Portion Sizes

1 oz. meat: size of a matchbox
3 oz. meat: size of a deck of cards or bar of soap—the recommended portion for a meal
8 oz. meat: size of a thin paperback book
3 oz. fish: size of a checkbook
1 oz. cheese: size of 4 dice
Medium potato: size of a computer mouse
2 Tbs. peanut butter: size of a ping pong ball
1/2 cup pasta: size of a tennis ball
Average bagel: size of a hockey puck.

a small amount of chocolate is 2-3 squares, not more.
Portions sizes are always very small, see below...

The Look of Normal Portion Sizes

1 oz. meat: size of a matchbox
3 oz. meat: size of a deck of cards or bar of soap—the recommended portion for a meal
8 oz. meat: size of a thin paperback book
3 oz. fish: size of a checkbook
1 oz. cheese: size of 4 dice
Medium potato: size of a computer mouse
2 Tbs. peanut butter: size of a ping pong ball
1/2 cup pasta: size of a tennis ball
Average bagel: size of a hockey puck.

a small amount of chocolate is 2-3 squares, not more.
Portions sizes are always very small, see below...

The Look of Normal Portion Sizes

1 oz. meat: size of a matchbox
3 oz. meat: size of a deck of cards or bar of soap—the recommended portion for a meal
8 oz. meat: size of a thin paperback book
3 oz. fish: size of a checkbook
1 oz. cheese: size of 4 dice
Medium potato: size of a computer mouse
2 Tbs. peanut butter: size of a ping pong ball
1/2 cup pasta: size of a tennis ball
Average bagel: size of a hockey puck.

You can grow tomato plants upside down from hanging pots, too.
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You might feed the cat up on the counter.
That's what my sister does. Otherwise you could use a baby gate. I used to lean a baby gate in a doorway. The angle left an opening for the cat, but the dogs were afraid of tipping the baby gate.

You are buying great food though.
Hummingbird feed
God bless you guys with a green thumb. I CAN grow plants but just don't have the time to get out there and do it. No excuse either, I have no children. Guess I'm just not garden oriented. MIL lived here before so she planted beautiful flowers that are still flourishing, but I end up making my own mix for the hummingbirds. Ours will not touch the red store bought feed.

We use red feeders with the yellow flowers, preferrably with a roosting or resting stem. Ours like to sit a while, while some flutter around. I mix 1 cup sugar with 3 cups water. You can bring this to boil and let cool or you can heat 1 cup in microwave, add sugar and stir to melt and then add 2 cups of icewater (including the cubes). Always 3:1 though. If I alter this they won't eat. I make sure to wash and change feed every 3 days, if it happens to last that long. Mine feed mainly in the early morning and late evening but they will eat throughout the day. They are all over this stuff. The other day one stopped about a foot in front of my husbands face just looking like...where are you going with that? There will be up to 15 at a time fluttering around we have definitely seen more. These are some friendly little birds we have. You can hold the feeders out at arms length and they will come and eat. We have actually filled our mouth with the sugar water before and held a plastic flower and they will come and feed.