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no but usually irresponsible people in poor social

Posted By: situations have abortions. Makes sense on 2008-09-17
In Reply to: so what does that mean? sm - Anonymous1

yes I had one and i was all of the above!! Now i'm on Depo and don't have that problem anymore


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Definitely get a companion bird - they are very social and need company. Poor thing is lonely. nm
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People on social security who pay no taxes
got back as individual $600 each last time and I know for a fact as my 85 year old aunt was one of those.
When amount of this for social security people and when?
Do you have a link for this info, pls.
I have a question about Social Security and Medicare for people who don't work (sm)

My SIL has worked exactly 3 (count them) 3 months in her entire lazy life.  They took bankruptcy a couple of years ago, of course she wasn't going to go to work and help out then because she said "it's not my fault we are in this mess."  Now my brother is coming up to within 10 years of retirement and actually has problems with arthritis that may cause him to have to retire sooner.  She insists that she should be given a social security check when she "retires" and that she should be eligible for medicare when my brother retires.  She is several years younger than him and I tried to tell her she will have to get out and get private insurance for herself until she is of age.  She insists the government "owes this to her".  I would like to string her up to the highest tree, but I am told that is illegal also. 


Am I crazy?  She certainly can't be put on Medicare just because her husband is eligible can she? 


I think she just figures she will either live on his SS benefits or kill him off with the side jobs in addition to his FT job he has been trying to do to keep her in the style she wants to become accustomed and then be eligible for widow's benefits. 


I guess I really don't understand the SS and Medicare issues, just hoping someone could shed some light on this. 


She simply REFUSES to work regardless of how much they have needed the money and/or benefits.  Can't watch your soaps if you work all day and that is very important to her.  GRRRR.  Sorry to vent.  Will go mind my own business now.


 


 


It is because poor people get food stamps. right.
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Like Oprah giving poor people new cars

It never occurred to her that they couldn't afford to pay the income tax on them.


Irresponsible? She's 8! lol
You are too much. This is why kids are having sexual relationships, walking around half dressed and doing whatever they want by the age of 12, because everybody wants them to be responsible and act like adults by 10. It is so sad that kids can't just be kids anymore.
this is really irresponsible
of the league president/coaches etc to in effect breach the confidentiality of, and to deny, the request, because in all seriousness, depending upon this guys anger problem etc, he could conceivably try to get revenge. I believe if it were me, I'd followup with the president of the league with a written letter (cc to your husband's job), re-emphasizing what your husband's job said, the situation it has put your family in, and the hardship placed upon your son. That way, if there WAS a problem down the line, there would be documentation of the whole thing. It's a real shame, and so unnecessary, as it would be no major problem to move the boy to another team in the first place. Wishing the best for you.
SIL/MIL are disrespectful and irresponsible
not to mention how your daughter feels. Come on, did SIL even apologize to her niece? You need to tell them they are lacking compassion, among, uh, brains.
I did something completely irresponsible and just for me ---

I have been looking to buy a new car.  Wanted a convertible, so had the sebring picked out as it had the biggest back seat to put the grandchildren in, the most leg room in the front for my extra-large man, and today I went to buy it and brought home a 2-seater, bright red, convertible Mazda Miata!!!  I love it!!!! 


YUCK. Irresponsible to the WORLD. nm
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Your husband is acting very irresponsible
I don't believe in talking responsibility to a person. That is something that comes from your backbone. Your husband is acting very irresponsible and I believe he plays video games just to upset you.

When a couple is going through difficult times is when you know the solidity and love in the relationship. Read the signs and try to move on.

Completely against...agree 21 is too young, still too immature and irresponsible.
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Social security

She will receive social security at a rate of 50% of what he receives as long as they have been married for 10 years.  Am not sure if you can begin to collect this at age 6 or have to wait until 65 or 66.  As far as medicare goes though, she is not eligible for this until she reaches 65/66 unless she is deemed disabled and not able to work and then she goes on SSI.   Up to 3 wives-ex-wives can receive 50% of what the husband's social security allotment is without reduction but it never reduces the husband's amount. (as long as they have been married for 10 years).   They did this so that all of the older ladies that never worked in the 40's 50's etc. could receive something when they retired as long as their husband was eligible.  Now if he should die, she will receive more and that will stay in effect until she dies.   With as expensive as Medicare and supplements are becoming it is no longer a deal to get Medicare and hardly any docs will take Medicare "only". 


Patti


I know I'm a bit of a social oddball, but
I like to be upfront and lay things out on the table, so I would talk to her and let her know how I was feeling. This approach does not work well with everyone, surprisingly to me . . . LOL. Most people say they want that, but it does not seem to hold true. Personally, I do not see how relationships work without complete honesty.

I think that you would at least feel better if you talked to her. Good luck whatever you decide!


Do you get social security now and if so
how old when you started? I am past the age of starting but want to reach full retirement age for me so I can double dip.
Social Security
There is some reason that you should take Soc. Security when you are eligible.  You can still work--I think up to a certain amount if you are younger than 65.  At 65 you can make as much as you want.  They say this is some kind of window--working right before or at the point of getting SS ultimately raises the amount.  There is a five-year window that is important.  I suggest you get some info from the SS office or a local AARP office or Senior info.  I have come back from "retirement" so I am facing these same things.  Oh, and by the way.  You--my sister (and occasionally brother) MTs--My People--you are all just as crazy as you always were.  And thankfully!  This message board did not exist the last time I did MT.  Cool! 
social animals
Rodents, rats especially, are very very social animals and are intelligent and desire human contact. I've had 6 diff rats, all are passed away now cause they only last a few years, but they are very playful and will play with you and like to be held, petted and carried around. The more you do that the more friendly they get!

Have fun!
The slain social worker one? nm
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social services should be contacted
to look at this family. It might be futile, but good grief, something needs to happen. That is unreal, beyond bizarre.
My daughter was a very social butterfly
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Do they by any chance have a social worker you...
could contact? That way, if the social worker stepped in no one in the family would really be so "involved" and it might save hard feelings further down the road but might have the same results.
What woman? What social worker?
We need a little more info to go on if anyone's going to try to help you out on this!  You've got me intrigued, though!  Lee
Check social services
your local salvation army, cancer center, and local hospitals. THERE IS HELP for you without insurance. Please don't give up. There are options. It just takes a little research and if you are working from home you must have the internet. I know things seem bad, but they could always get worse. Sometimes I need to remind myself of that to get out of bed in the morning.
I have 5. All MTs. I would like a broader social circle
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Social Services Visiting

The main thing I'd say is to remain calm and explain to the investigator like you did here.  Their job is to sort out the truth from the fiction.  I was investigated once because my MTSO made false accusations about me to the police. 


I had to answer questions I didn't enjoy but when the interview was over the investigator was done she told me she believed me and I had nothing to worry about, but if the accuser made another call they'd file harassment charges against me. 


The truth is the truth and they'll sort it out.  Patience will serve you well. 


Why was the post on social isolation deleted??
I was going to post a response to this and see the thread is gone!  It was just posted a few minutes ago and I'm wondering what happened here. 
Update on social worker from my post the other day (sm)

I posted the other day about where I had seen that social worker before, and couldn't find her on the cast list - wouldn't have helped if I had.  I was watching Sally Field on the Boniva commercial and it popped into my head.  Social worker was on that Boniva commercial where those 4 women were supposed to be being quiet in a museum.  Isn't it funny how the brain works?  - haha - especially mine.


I think that constitute abuse! Dogs are very social - sm
animals, and their human families are their *pack*. That poor dog is bored and lonely. It's crying proves that food and water alone are not enough to nourish an intelligent, social animal like a little Sheltie. I would tip off animal control. I'm sure it can be done annonymously. If the dog is confiscated, you can help it out by looking for a Sheltie-rescue in your area, and if not, possibly a regular animal rescue group. If she's healthy & has a good temperament, they may pull her from the shelter and foster her 'til someone can adopt her.

Or -- if that sounds too drastic, if you know the other people are gone, why not climb the fence into her backyard, and befriend & play with the dog? That would be better than nothing, although it sounds like the best option would be to find that dog a new family.
Can anyone tell me that is on social security how they figure how much to deduct if you go over what
you are allowed to make per month.  I did speak to them but I just wondered if someone on here has done this at all. 
retired homemaker for social history -
most of us know that would mean dead!!!  Like Social Security comes in and does the dishes for us?
I stay home!!! (I think I have social anxiety). nm
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Just an update on my Social Worker visit.

No one has come by yet, but it's only Monday, but I did get the house cleaned with the help of my son, his girlfriend, and two of his friends.  I took the advice below about shuffling all my ex-husband's junk to the garage.  He has a fixer upper car in the garage anyway, so I just piled stuff around it, on top of it, and in it.  The garage is a complete mess, but we don't live in there, so whatever.  My son and his buddies cleaned up outside the house too.  We had about 10 bags of trash for the trash truck this morning, but they took every one of them.  Thank goodness!!


I'm way more calmer now than I was on Friday when all this crap broke loose.  Thanks to everyone for calming me down.  I'm ready now for when the social worker stops by.  I saw another officer over the weekend at the gas station and he asked me about my situation, asked me if my ex was ever served and then told me that he was proud of me for finally getting rid of him and that he would talk to his boss about this whole "social services thing."  He said his boss (who was the officer at my house on Friday) doesn't really know the ins and outs of the community like the officers do and he'd make sure he let him know that my ex is the one causing all the trouble.


So that made me feel better too.  I just can't believe how ugly this is getting.  I guess I'd better prepare myself because it will probably get worse before it gets better.  The divorce is just beginning.


I've gained a lot too but I have worked on having a social life (sm)
There is a website called Exercisefriends dot com where you can post for people in your area to walk with or whatever sport you like. I found a walking buddy like that and we are now best friends for the past few years now(she works at home too). But the part-time job is a good idea too - those jobs are fun even though you don't make much money.
Found it on Social Security website $250 by May 2009 nm
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I just found out that social services will be paying me a visit and I am

freaking out!  My estranged husband, on whom I have a restraining order, showed up at my house today, obviously he had been drinking.  Long story short, one of my son's friends shows up, one that is not allowed at the house.  I immediately sent the teenager away, but my husband proceeds to start raging about how he would run things if he were still living here.  I then told him he could leave as well.  That I kicked the teenager and I expected him to leave too.  He refused and said he would leave if I gave him money because he needs to contribute groceries to his buddy with whom he is staying.  He doesn't work and hasn't worked for much of our marriage.  I told him if he wanted to help out his buddy, he should get a job.  He came into the house, sat down on my couch and refused to leave until I gave him money. 


My son called the police to enforce the restraining order.  The police show up and while he is in their custody, he tells them that I have 10 to 14 teenagers in my house every day and that he doesn't feel that it is a good environment for our 8yo daughter.  He tells there was marijuana in my house. 


So now the police are telling me they have to file a report with family services because my house could be a hostile environment and they have to follow up on every complaint.  The marijuana episode did happen; however, my daughter and I were not at home.  My husband was still living at home at the time and caught my son and a couple of friends smoking it and instead of stopping them immediately and kicking everybody out, I was told that he took a hit off the joint.  I was told that by all three kids whom I questioned separately.  When I confronted my soon to be ex about this, his explanation was that he didn't take a hit, he put it up to his mouth and nose to smell to see if it really was pot.  Still he did not put up fuss, punish our son, or kick anybody.  Instead I find out about the pot from the sister of one of my son's girlfriend who told me because she was worried about her sister and she was the one who originally told me my husband took a hit.


Now, because my husband is angry that I have kicked him out and am filing for divorce, he is telling these lies and half truths to the cops and now I have to worry about getting visited from social services.  I've been crying all evening and I'm wondering what I should expect.  I have to clean my house from top to bottom, make sure this sucker shines and I guess not let my son have any friends over ever again!


I am so upset!  I absolutely hate my ex-husband.  I live in a rat hole as it because he has refused to work and he has junked up with all the crap he refuses to throw away.  The man won't even through away magazines.  I have stacks and stacks of magazines and newspapers that every time I've tried to throw out or recycle, he picked them out of the bins and brought them back into the house.  Now I'm faced with this mountain of crap that I have deal with immediately before I get visited by the social worker. 


I'm sorry to go on and on.  I'm just so overwhelmed and stressed and I just want to curl up in a little ball and die.  My kids are my life.  I don't beat them, I feed them, I clothe them, I play with them, and have fun with them.  They are the reason I work, the reason I breathe.  The idea of having someone come into my home and question my fitness as a mother makes my physically ill.


You guys, thank you for continually listening to my saga.  You guys gave me the strength to kick him out to begin with.


I stand corrected. Here's the info from the Social Security website...
Even if he or she has never worked under Social Security, your spouse at full retirement age can receive a benefit equal to one-half of your full retirement amount and can qualify on your record for Medicare at age 65. (If your spouse will receive a pension for work not covered by Social Security such as government or foreign employment, the amount of his or her Social Security benefits on your record may be reduced.)

Your spouse can begin collecting the benefits as early as age 62, but the benefit amount will be permanently reduced by a percentage based on the number of months up to his or her full retirement age.

Your spouse who is caring for your child who is also receiving benefits can receive the full one-half benefit amount no matter what his or her age is. Your spouse would receive these benefits until the child reaches age 16. At that time, the child's benefits continue, but your spouse's benefits stop unless he or she is old enough to receive retirement benefits (age 62 or older) or survivor benefits as a widow or widower (age 60).

If your spouse has also worked under Social Security--If your spouse is eligible for retirement benefits on his or her own record, we will always pay that amount first. But if the spouse benefit on your record is a higher amount, he or she will get a combination of benefits that equals that higher amount. It doesn't matter if your spouse starts getting benefits before, after, or at the same time you do--we will check both records to make sure that your spouse gets the higher amount.

If your spouse continues to work while receiving benefits, the same earnings limits apply to him or her as apply to you. If your spouse is eligible for benefits this year and is also working, you can use our earnings test calculator to see how those earnings would affect your spouse's benefit payments. (Your spouse's earnings affect only his or her own benefits; they do not affect your benefits or those of any other beneficiaries on your record.)

For Medicare, from that section it reiterates what I said...

Medicare is health insurance for people age 65 or older, under age 65 with certain
disabilities, and any age with End-Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure
requiring dialysis or a kidney transplant).

Call a minister or hospital social service department - nm
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Oh, sorry, misunderstood. Listed under social hx, no mention of a health concern. (NM)
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you can give the people the facts, but the decision making process should be left to the people

This is what our country is founded on FREEDOM OF CHOICE!   I'm laughing already; you are just as mortal as the rest of us, and don' even attempt to that you've never done anything in your lifetime that was unsafe or unhealthy. NOT gonna buy it.


Poor you!
Right now I'm trying to transcribe for ESLs who dictate that way, and add whole sentences in prelude to something that actually means something. Stop with all the filler guys!
Oh, poor guy. sm

Sorry I referred to him as female before.  (I've had too much coffee today - I seem to have energy, but no focus.)  It is stressful to try to watch them all the time and to be worrying about them all the time.  I sure hope he'll be okay. 


I actually meant to give you this website in my other post (like I said, no focus!)  It seems to cover pretty much everything about canine epilepsy, and I really like the advice way down near the bottom "Living With An Epileptic Pet."   http://www.canine-epilepsy.net/basics/basics_main.html


I think there are e-mail lists for people with epileptic pets too, which are probably very supportive and helpful. 


I wish you both well.  Please let us know how he's doing.   


 


poor pup!
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Poor cat
I'd rather have Scooter Libby living in my neighborhood than these 2 girls or you, all 3 who apparently cannot see where the problem lies.
Oh no! Poor you! :-(

When I lost a filling NOTHING took the pain away and I loaded up on as much Tylenol as was safe.  The best thing I found was liquid Anbesol, the strongest strength they make, soaked on a piece of cotton gauze...the kind with like a webbing around it, put right over the tooth.  I also remember staying plastered pretty much the whole time with whiskey high balls. 


I hope you feel better soon!  Nothing worse than dental pain, in my opinion.


it is wonderful to see how many people have such strong opinions about people in debt.

I thought that the purpose of this board was to be able to post without being judged unfairly or have somebody tell you how wonderful their personal life is, and therefore you are causing their life to be less wonderful with your irresponsibility. Well, the saying "walk a mile in my shoes" is a good one in this case.  Since you have no personal information about the person you are lambasting because they are looking for information on their debt, you can feel superior.  Had you had personal information about them, you might act in a more human manner. Consider fighting cancer for 4 years, working and being debilitated while you do, suffering the effects of chemo, going into debt to maintain your home for your children and looking for a way out of debt SHOULD YOU EVEN LIVE THROUGH THIS!!  Thank you for the kind comments.  To the judgmental people I say please take a step back before you judge.  You do not know who you are talking to and if you knew the personal information maybe your comments would be kinder.


I get frustrated by the double standard they use when judging people. They let certain people go sa
What do you think about the voting process?
Poor Puppy--sm
Wow. I feel so bad for the puppy (I call all doggies puppies no matter what size or age they are). I did not realize that pets could get or have SLE. I wish you the best for finding something to control symptoms. give puppy a pet for me too.
Poor baby!
I hope you can figure out what's going on with her.
Thank you for caring for that poor dog. sm
She must have been neglected for a long time.

With her coughing up mucus, she probably has pneumonia and needs antibiotics. She also needs dental work.

You might want to feed her some ground beef and rice. You should boil the beef, not fry it (no seasonings)and add it to cooked rice that has no seasonings. This is what my vet prescribed when one of my dogs was sick. It should be easy for her to eat this. But please get her to a vet ASAP.

She probably has some kind of allergy that is causing her to chew herself. Or she might be doing that because her teeth hurt her.


Poor fella...
I would have said, "Honey, I have a 15 minute break at 8, let me "talk" with you then." Throw the poor guy a bone! lol