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Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it??

Posted By: jaburah on 2007-08-09
In Reply to: Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it?? (sm) - Amazed

Maybe some few isolated case...


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Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it?? (sm)
PRINCIPAL DIAGNOSIS(ES): Left food wet gangrene, status post above-knee amputation on.

Actual copy and paste..... I have no words for this at all.
they no longer pay for proofing
Just kidding.
I know, I know...
Proofing is very important. Patient care is at stake.
And so are our jobs.



You must "accept all changes" to send a clean document.
Where that option is located depends on your version of Word.


Can you save the document as a Word document? nm
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At ease, soldier! This isn't a medical document. I repeat, this isn't a medical document. nm
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proofing
I don't always but I probably should. Just got feedback from QA that I had chosen wrong account number for date of service. OOPS! 
Proofing
The problem is typing faster and faster, you have more potential for typos, etc.  If you reread everything, you make less money.  I would rather work hourly so I could put out a much better product, but  not possible.  So I don't proof, except as I go along, and briefly glance over my finished report.  Otherwise my production would be cut in half. 
proofing
15. per hour without benefits.  Still looking for a company with benefits.  For VR, I wouldn't take anything less than 6 cpl as they nearly have to be retyped.
proofing
Sorry, that should have been docs are dictating, not transcribing. Whew! Eyes are tired!
proofing
The biggest significance for proofing/reading is that when someone uses a macro/expander and it expands out to another group of words than what was intended and the MT not catching it. I know of this happening at a local clinic, and the doctor was furious when it came back to his office obviously wrong because the MT didn't take the time to check over what her macro expanded to!
proofing
I proof as I go. However, it takes a long time to be comfortable with that. You could try to test yourself and do a lot of reports in one day proofing as you go. If you have a way to put them on hold you could go back and check behind yourself just to see how you did. Big time saver but you have to be really focused and really sure of yourself.
Proofing
I was just proofing and caught where I had typed "acing" instead of "aching" The spell checker did not pick that up. I'm not here to pick apart what you do, but I would certainly recommend proofing your reports. Good luck to you
Proofing
Tinks: I do pay attention as I type, but I always go back and proof. I guess I am too anal! Also, I think it depends on the person and the account. I just don't feel confident enough (even after over 15 years!) to let mine go without giving them a once over. I do agree too that MTs in the hospital setting are not scrutinized as much as those of us working for MTSOs. So much for my 2cents worth!
proofing
I have over 30 years experience, and I still proofread everything I do after it is completed. Having done QC for many years, it is easy to spot those of you who think you can proofread while you are transcribing - the quality just isn't there. Please remember that this not only puts your job in jeopardy but also the jobs of many others as if your employer loses a client, everyone who does that client is now also losing work. More emphasis on quality, less on quantity. If you can't make enough money, try another job; don't complain about, sacrifice quality and make transcription profession look bad.
RE: MDmt and proofing
I agree with you 100%. I spellcheck and then visually proof. My QA ratings are 99-100% on a high-ESL account. I want to say to people who are too lazy to proof: IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT, WHEN WILL YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT OVER?
Proofing as you go...as in looking at what you typed?
Doesn't everyone? Or do some MTs watch TV or look up in the air while typing? LOL! That is not proofreading - proofreading is double-checking a finished document.
I have just started proofing as I go...

and yes, it does mean no more watching TV while I type ,but I am so pleased with the increase in my production per hour.  There is actually life outside my computer room....


I did have to change some of my Expanders that I consistently type incorrectly, i.e. "or" and "ro" for rule out, but after watching it for a couple weeks and not having any of my reports returned, I am pretty confident that I must be on the right track.


I also keep working on refining my templates to add every possible phrase that the doctor uses so some reports are almost an editing process rather than typing.


Exactly, really can't catch when proofing as you go.
Think about it, you are thinking, listening, typing, foot pedaling, etc., too much going on at once. Not to mention other distractions. Really can't proof as you go, just doesn't work. You have to stop at the end to concentrate and re-read it to catch all the errors. Trust me, I do audits and find errors in probably 8 out of every 10 reports, some very small but still errors. These are most likely from MTs who proof as they go. I totally understand MTs are paid on production and don't blame them one bit for not proofing at the end! But then also should not expect a perfect report or state that proofing as they go works, cause it really doesn't. Ever hear of a writer say oh you don't have to proofread or edit my book before publishing because I proof as I go?!?! Just some food for thought. ; )
Trained someone by proofing (sm)
She listened to every report, word for word, and she is now one of the best MT's I know.  That would be an excellent way to train.
Proofing Problem

Lately when I proof my work, I don't remember typing things near the beginning of the report and thinks it is something I forgot to remove from a macro.  Then I have to re-listen to that part to verify; wasting time.


I didn't use to do this and don't know how to stop. - Any tips? 


those who can't do....teach

There is  a HUGE difference between reading what someone else has already deciphered versus being the one who is deciphering it at 140 words per minute.  The bottom line is that we all make mistakes because we are paid on production - not because we are ignorant or guessing or whatever unprofessional nonsense they choose to call it.  As for the comment about not spelling physician names correctly (cities, schools, etc.), we do not get paid by the hour to search for these things - QA people do or they are getting paid for lines they do not type to compensate their time.  There is no cause for unprofessionalism or personal attacks.  I do not appreciate commentary.  I don't appreciate remarks about punctuation, grammar etc. particulary when it comes from someone who doesn't understand what an independent clause is, a complete sentence and so on.  Passing on their infinite wisdom because it is what they "were taught" isn't valid - back it up and I don't mean with the BOS, which basically boils down to someone else's opinion.    I find the QA people contradict themselves left and right, contradict each other, contradict the account manager and most importantly contradict account specifics, and some contradict the doctors themselves.   Very few have come across my path that were friendly, helpful or even knowledgeable.  They just often have misplaced confidence in "understanding" the word no else can...I find it better to err on the side of caution if it is a word of substance; if it is not, move on.  Perhaps, QA should respectfully mentor the newbies, give feedback to MTs who make repeated mistakes and otherwise take a supporting role in helping MTs to produce quality documents, instead of getting into a p1ssing contest. 


How do you teach someone s/m
who has been typing since age 16 to now only put 1 space after a period instead of 2? That's going to take a LONG time to break that habit.
Anyone have any good proofing tips?

Does anyone have any proofing tips/ideas that they use when going over their own reports?


I always, always go over my reports at least once after typing them. Sometimes, though, I will read the sentence like it should be, instead of noticing that I left a simple small word out or something simple like that. I type a lot (and I mean A LOT) of 20-30 second reports a day  lol..and towards the end of the day is when I notice it happening.


I do this on VERY rare occasion and but am just looking for some suggestions.


 


Thanks!


I forgot to mention proofing
You're right! I forgot to mention that proofing takes less time. You'll have less to correct, and you should be able to proof as you transcribe.

You can take advantage of those annoying pauses in the dictation if you use them to proof the line above the one you're working on. Even in a tiny pause, you can proof a little bit.

Good luck with this! Let me know how it goes for you.
some one should teach them grammar
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Per minute editing/proofing rate
Can anyone give me some good numbers here?  For editing, if you are paid by the minute of dictation, what would be a high and low pay rate per minute?  Thanks for any help on this!
Proofing Help Pleeeez! (long post)

I am 53, divorcee with 1 child in college,  been MTing for 32 years. When I started out I was one of the best in my field, accurate, at my peak was making close to 50,000 a year, only one job and only 40 hours a week.  Now, here I am going through menopause, working 12 hours a day (1 full-time and 1 part-time) and barely making ends meet.  My production is at an all-time low, and I'm working on my 3rd or 4th job this year- I forget, it's been so many, for various reasons why they didn't work out.  But, now I find myself, going into my third week of employment with this company, still in QA, making stupid grammatical errors, and leaving out words, that I am not aware of. I would like to say one of my problems is that this is a huge Children's Hospital with a lot of procedures, diseases, and terminology I have never heard of, but I cannot really say that, as most of my errors are gramatical, i.e. not putting comma or semi-colon where it belongs, leaving out it, and, but and they.  I am beginning to feel they may not keep me.  I am 1 pay check from being homeless, now jobless, already uninsured, as I could not afford the Cobra.  I have applied for jobs completely out of the MT field, so far with no luck of being hired.  I put in an application last week for a State Job with excellent benefits, paid by company, and although the salary is 22,000 to 36,000, if they call me, I am definitely going to take it.  I figure I have 15 more years before retirement, and if I can tap into the retirement for the next 15 years, that would be a help, as I don't have any 401K to fall back on.  Anyways, if you guys can give me some proofreading tips that will not take away from my production, I would greatly appreciate it.  Most companies don't offer a training pay that would last at least 2 weeks, which would be a help.  So here I am trying to make money, which is virtually impossible when you're training on a new account, new company, new software and everything.  Help Guys. 


I teach classes online.
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What was wrong with trying to teach them when they were young?
I learned to dust, wash dishes, clean my room, etc., when I was about 5 years old, and it was part of our routine. Every week our chores would rotate and as we got old, we learned more. Same thing with cooking. You obviously let this go too long but now is the time to change it, not when you have a nervous breakdown.
There are schools that teach you the business in about...
6 or 8 weeks, not quite sure.  But the idea of expressing anal glands on the dog just sickens me.  I love dogs, but I couldn't do that nasty little detail.  no way, no how.
We teach people how to treat us - I would not put up with this.
It seems this arrangement no longer works with your schedule. If they say they need the work now and you cannot do that any longer then you need to let them know why. Best of luck to you.
I think it is all about your beliefs and what you teach the kids...sm

We do let our kids trick or treat, as stated before.  However, it is all just for fun (and candy) for them.  I think it is all about what you teach your kids.  I see what you are saying about Christmas, I actually can't stand it when people celebrate Christmas who don't believe in God and Jesus.  But I guess someone could say the same thing about me (for "celebrating"Halloween without "believing" in what it stands for).  I think I am confusing myself!!!  All I think that matters is what YOU believe and what you are teaching your children. 


 


However, now that this subject has come up, I am going to do some more research on Halloween and possibly consider the idea of a "fall harvest party" or something like that.  I do like that idea, so thanks for letting me explore other ideas!!!  I never thought that deeply about getting free candy from the neighbors!!


teach pronunciation in med school?

how in the heck does one become a doctor and pronounce things like:


ex-zeffer (that is, Effexor)


cla-mit-tra-zol (rather clotrimazole)


tur-bun-ins (how about turbinates!!)


makes me crazy...er.


When you teach your child about the Golden
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Teach a newbie to fish
I don't think it helps them. I started looking at the Word Help board after I read a post earlier this evening about the low-level questions newbies are wanting answers for. One was something like "vigomatic...this is somewhere on the head." Are you KIDDING??? I couldn't believe it. I think it would serve this person much better to give him/her some ideas on how to find the answer rather than to just give the answer away. Just giving the answer away is not really helping them learn anything. It's just letting them copy your homework.

What's that saying? Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.

In the earlier discussion I mentioned, someone thought posting on the board (in a virtual situation) was the same thing as asking a teacher for an answer in a classroom situation. Well, I think a great teacher in a classroom situation would do the same thing; i.e., point the student toward the dictionary or the encyclopedia or whatever, not just give away the answer.


I really have to wonder how someone can end up as a working transcriber & not know, or at least have been exposed to, the word "zygomatic" at some point. How did this person get a job? Scary, especially considering how protective we are of our field and how much better at it we think we are than anyone else on the planet.

There are no shortcuts. Every great working Transcriptionist has had to look everything up, has had to go through the unbearable period when getting through one report was like swimming through concrete. Are newbies these days under the impression that there is another way? Because there isn't.


QA should be used to teach and aid in the process of MT'ing sm
Not to pick apart and make the MT feel inadequate. Does it really matter if there is a comma missing....not really. The report still reads the same and is a technical document.

QA should be friendly and helpful, at least that is how I try to be in my QA position. We are in this together not against each other. We have the same purpose....to make sure that patient has the most accurate record possible. We all should work as a team, in my most humble opinion.

Happy Holidays Everyone!
Out of her dress today (instead of out of her dressing) but I caught it when proofing.
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I teach and I make 20.00 per hour. Not that great
but nothing to sneeze at either.  I teach community service classes (medical transcription, anatomy physiology and medical terminology) at a local college.
In our Sunday School class, now we teach!nm
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I would think the school could fire him if he can't effectively teach- sm
and the kids take advantage, etc. It is for his own good as well as everyone else that he can hear. They make hearing aids so small now, vanity is a big price to pay for not being able to hear. I would think though that the school would have good cause to can him though IF he does not try to work to the best of his ability and if hearing aids help him to work better than he needs to do it, no one is going to make fun of him for wearing them (he's a big boy anyway I'm sure he could take what the kids can dish out), I would think he'd have more trouble from the kids without them. Good luck in making him see sense.
I get the no deodorant part - but what did his mother teach him?? (sm)
May be an old wives' tale, but I've always heard that if you never start wearing deodorant, you'll never need it. 
FINALLY got it - Guess you can teach an old dog new tricks! THANKS!!

I DO call you a crook. Do you teach your kids
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teach and guide, start my own school? sm
I guess then they should take the Word Board off if teaching and guiding is a "no no?" Difference between teaching and just telling somebody something they can look up for themselves.

Yeah I am into books! Not too slow if you know what you are doing! Still do 250-300 lph with accuracy which is more than I can say for your post.
The people proofing are human. Humans make mistakes daily.
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I teach literacy classes. Do it. You'll be glad you did.
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No, what's sent work overseas is cheap schools that don't teach SM
properly, churning out hoards of MTs who will undercut the good ones and then turn out terrible work.
It's real. 100%. I used to teach this so email me with any questions. I will give you both the sm
good and the bad about the business. It's all completely real and you can do it from home.
Partially true, but you're not going to learn what they don't teach you ...
a cheap, crappy school does not teach you all the things you need to learn. And you don't know what you don't know until you try to start working and can't pass any employment tests.
its a tool like macros, you have to teach it to understand you and edit at first the words it does
What I understand is, it helps out if you have body parts that are giving out, but it will not, say.. double your production. 
You teach your 3 y/o daughter abdominal anatomy on the chart in the doc's ofc while waiting...nm
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