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The actual amount paid is irrelevant

Posted By: and I don't think we pay them on 2008-03-03
In Reply to: What makes you think we pay OS MTs more? - Most MTSO are offshore anyway. sm

more, but the value of it is more to them than it is to us.  For example, if you make $50 for a week's worth of work, do you think that's a lot in America?  Probably not.  But ask someone in a third world country if $50 is a lot of money to them and ask what it will buy them.

By offshoring work, the MTSO's are saving big bucks by paying foreign MTs far less than they pay us.  Therefore, there are many American MTs willing to accept a lower payrate for their work.  Thus, lowering the American standard of pay for this industry.  Got it?

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    The doc has suggested maybe paying me by the amount of time dictated.

    Has anyone done this before, and if so what are the pros and cons, and what is a reasonable rate??? I have NO idea!

    Thanks so much for any info.

    I have been with them for seven years this September and never raised my rates, which I brought up to him while speaking about the new system saying I would hope whatever we decide is more than I make now!

    Money talks & the smaller the amount paid out,
    1099 ? Is the amount on the 1099 only the money paid to you in 2008. So if I did not receieve payme
    than that $$ would be on my 1099 for 2009 not 2008??  I have to invoices that were due to be paid in 2008 but I never received the $$ until January of 2009.  Do I have to claim that money on my taxes this year or next???  Thanks in advance for your help.   
    Doesn't matter, IF you are not paid an hourly wage, i.e. a set amount no matter - sm
    how much or how little you type, say $12.00/hour, you do not get OT. As someone mentioned here, certain jobs are exempt, and as most of us are paid a flat rate of .08 cpl or .09 or .10, whatever it is, that is all we get regardless of how many hours under or over 40 hours we go. If you want OT then go get an in-house job or get a job doing something else.
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    The turth as you know it is irrelevant. The OP obviously has SM
    some financial issues, and it was rude of you to not only a) not offer any advice (or keep your thoughts to yourself) and b) ramble on about how good you have it.

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    I single or double as requested or to conform to a standard mode, even if I do prefer double for readability. The VR accounts I work on are set to single space. FWIW, typing single spaces is faster.
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    It is irrelevant what percentage the service takes of 'your' earnings...sm

    what matters is: is it worth it to you to work for that rate? On some accounts, my IC's might make only 50% of what I charge the client, on others they might be paid 80%. For one physician, I might charge 12 cents a line - if another calls, says they are in a jam and desperate to get their backlog done, I might bid it at 14.  But if you are satisifed with say 8.5 cents a line, it doesn't matter if your MTSO charges them 9.5 or 19.5.

    As far as line rates to physicians, again, it depends on what the market will bear. You could call local physician offices and tell them you are an independent MT service and you are getting price ranges for the locality, and ask the OM what they are paying. That would give you an idea of what is competitive. In West  Virginia, they might be charging 18 cents per line, in Chicagoland they might be charging 11.


    The line rate

    Of Course Endiqua read your post. It is irrelevant to her what you wrote and she is fully prepared
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    dude, your educational level means nothing when you post irrelevant drivel and you don't follow
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    BTW, YOU CALLED THE NAMES DEAR POSTER. READ YOUR OWN POST AND THEN READ MINE. See that's what I'm talking about. The masses aren't all that bright and knowing that does not "empower" me. And with you bragging about a "degree" and "education" is even more depressing. imagine an educated person bragging about it after screwing up on two posts and not understanding the concept of the original post STILL! Scary stuff.
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    real estate agent.  You are thinking of the money you think you could save, but what it will end up turning into is a bigger mess.  If you sign a 60 or 90 day contract with a for sale by owner agent (i.e. Help-U-Sell, Assist2Sell, BuyOwner) and all they do is plunk a sign in your yard and give you a lock box then you're not getting much.  They don't do a lot of advertising other than on their own website and they might print a few flyers for you. 

    With the market soft right now, unless you price the house really low just to get rid of it, expect it to sit for 90 to 120 days.

    I hope that is not an actual
    medical record you posted there.  Yikes!
    See post below with actual MQ CEO letter.
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    Actual dictation. Made my day.

    Excerpt from actual dictation that I received on an  80-year-old man.

    "He doesn't have any complaints with the exception of his continued relationship with his wife."

    She is talking to the actual place.(nm)
    Do you ever transcribe in actual dreams? (s/m)

    Along a similar, but different thread with regards to the post below about daydreaming or thinking about other things when transcribing, do you ever transcribe in your dreams?  Thank goodness it doesn't happen all the time, but sometimes I will have a dream where I'm sitting at the computer and transcribing dictation, and can read all the words in front of me.  Is that strange, or what?  And I also sometimes dream that I'm reading a book.  I guess that's what happens when you're in such a word-oriented profession! 

    Ah, but actual statistics and things like that
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    Oops! it is .06 per actual line
    Only actual employees get min wage.

    The CD is WAY harder than the actual test.
    No sweat. 
    Only hospitals and Diskriter do actual sm

    background checks where this information would turn up.  They also ask on their applications.

    I have never been asked when applying for a service.  If the question is not asked, then there must not be a prohibition on felons.

    The actual medical record contains
    those things you mention. The dictated report sometimes does, not that is not often. Some facilities, however, do have the physician dictate everything imaginable and even if it is 1 out of every 10, that is still too much info to let out.
    if mt paid 9, editor paid 4 or 5...how can company charge 14 and make it..sm

    I know the going rate in our area is 14 cents per line.  As MTs most companies here pay us 8 or 9 cents a line.  Now add in the Editor rate at 4 or 5 per line..you are paying OUT more than you can charge a line.  How would companies stay in biz?

    Unless all work is sent by the company overseas at pennies per line, this would not pay for a company.

    just curious how this works out

    Hope you spell better in the actual reports.
    Lets try ALL
    Do you work an actual 8 hrs a day if hired for such or is it more like 7 with your breaks, etc. nm
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    Most of the tests are really easy. Much better than the actual dictation.
    I use CS and ST, works great. The CS that I use is actual Word -sm
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    I transcribed for a small company locally and would pick up thier overflow. The recent rate seemed to be 1.25 a page but I received 1.35 for medical which they could not understand. You do have to have a special tape transcriber for this. You can buy then new or used but you can also get some that have been company modified. They have to be able to play multiple channels. This could run you anywhere from $300-$800 for player alone.

    The difference is VERBATIM. Where we correct for proper English you do not on legal. There are a few tricks with the dates and numbers and such but it's not hard to catch onto. You might check into a local court reporting business and see if they have extra work. It can be time consuming but it is interesting. Some are short, some are long. Court cases longer but I have typed depositions that are up to 100 pages long, but that is double spaced. They had to listen to it while recording, then I listend to transcribe and then they listened a third time to proof it. Here is a sample of how the wording can be...

    Q All right. Did you ever see the Cadillac at any point, go into the turn lane?
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    Q Okay. You went over and talked to Mrs. Hobbs, the lady driving the car. Now tell us exactly what she -- David said tell her -- tell you -- tell her that Iím okay, and what did she say to you about just glancing back or what exactly did she tell you?
    A If Iím remembering -- getting it right -- I donít want to -- but what Iím saying is -- like, I said well David, David told me to come and find out how you were doing and donít worry about him heíll be okay and then she said, after a few minutes, like I said, she said like -- to the effect that she glanced off the road and she took her eyes off the road and when she looked back it just happened.

    Some of them are hilarious.

    Point is if you want to transcribe them you don't have to have any special schooling. My friend has never transcribed in her life and she picked it right up within a week.
    Gross line is actual lines. sm
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    It's really hard for someone to say "this is the rate you should ask for" though, because there can be so much variability from company to company as far as what they count as a line. Also, is it clinic or acute care work? If clinic, generally easier and same docs all the time, so even at a lower line rate, you might make more in the end if you use expander, normals, templates, etc. Is there a platform or can you use Word and your own expander? If acute care where you have different docs all the time, a lot of ESLs, clunky platform, no Expander program, etc., it might slow you down so even with a higher line rate, you might not make as much in the long run. Therefore, you have to take all of that into consideration to arrive at what line rate you should charge or ask for ... almost have to adjust to each different company or client, really. For clinic work, 8-9 cents per 65-char line can net some good pay. For acute care, you might want more like 10-11 to get the same pay. Hope this all makes sense!
    You may find that actual copies of the reports are also useful. sm
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    A "home" can be an actual house or an apartment. So,
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    I know exactly what you mean. We see it in E-mails all the time where I work. Although they aren't enforcing it, they do ask that we work our full shift AND get our lines in. I know Dictaphone Extext tracks your typing time and you can see that when you check your line count. It gets really depressing on the speech editing because actual typing time is a LOT less, so it takes longer to get my time in.

    This is another way to get more out of the MTs. I think it's all crap, especially since if you were to go over 40 hours a week you won't get paid!

    Yes, but the test files are indicative of the actual work.
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    not much actual "data", again it's a point and click thing...sm
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    The actual operation you're performing is Fill Down.
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    We need actual examples of patients harmed by outsourcing
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    But how much are the US EDs gonna be paid? Typically this work is paid at 2-3 cpl. nm
    You don't get paid an hourly rate you get paid by line - sm
    so because of how you are paid (not an hourly rate) you don't get OT, especially if you are an IC.
    I would move on. I think it is so unfair not to be paid for spaces! I think we should get paid

    per keystroke, but that'll never happen.  I just think that these national companies are going to keep finding ways to cheat us.  I found a job working for a hospital as an employee, paid hourly plus incentive, and they let us expand everything!  Somebody's gonna have to kill me to make me give up this job.  I will never go back to the national's again.

    I feel for you though.  I know that for us MTs those good jobs are few and far between and some have little choice but to work for the nationals.  I just happened to luck into the job I have now.  I just applied at the right time. 

    Good luck to you whatever you decide.