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Amen to that, I heard on Glenn BeEck to watch out for Acorn protests.nm

Posted By: jazzMT on 2009-04-13
In Reply to: For some, do not forget about the tea party. - government tax spending

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ACORN Protests around the country

They're telling people whose homes are up for foreclosure to stay in their homes even if they are taken off to jail.


A spokesperson for the group believes that everyone should get new mortgages, even those that are in homes that they can't afford. (I've been trying to find that article.)


http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/2749/t/3071/signUp.jsp?key=2134


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/10/AR2009021001271.html


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/nyregion/18foreclose.html?_r=2&ref=nyregion


You don't have to watch Glenn Beck...
to know his background. A simple Google search is all that's necessary. Glenn Beck is nothing more than another washed up disc jockey just like Rush Limbaugh.
I heard that too, in Ohio, one of the many states of Acorn
They will try to steal the election.
Protests.

March 17, 2007 thousands of anti-war protesters will participate in a march in D.C. set to start at The Wall and work to the Pentagon.  It will be led by Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda, Ramsey Clark, and probably a few other hollywood glitterarti.    American protesters and their allies in the liberal news media have been comparing our military operations in Iraq to the Viet Nam War for a long time. I'm beginning to see their point.

I'm worried that our war against Islamic fundamentalism in Iraq is going to turn into Viet Nam, by which I mean that once the U.S. leaves, millions of people will lose any hope of freedom and democracy and a dangerous and violent ideology will have gained ground in the world, all because irresponsible and misinformed liberals turned public opinion against the war and encouraged our enemies.

If you want to protest a war before it starts in order to try and influence the government's decision to go to war, that's one thing. It's another thing entirely to root for America's defeat in the middle of a war. If U.S. troops pulled out of Iraq now, there'd be nothing else to call it but defeat. Anti-war protesters have a number of arguments to defend themselves with, but the bottom line is that our boys, and these days, our girls too, are over there trying to win a war. If you're protesting this war, you're not helping.

One of the first arguments you'll hear from the anti-war crowd is that political protest is a patriotic exercise of their constitutional rights. I'm not denying that it's their right. Just because something is legal under the Supreme Court's latest interpretation of the Constitution, it doesn't mean that it is morally OK - eminent domain, anyone? And protesting a war while your country is fighting it is not patriotic by any stretch. I don't understand how you can love your country so much that you want it to lose a war and will march in the streets demanding that it surrender.

Another argument you'll hear is that Cindy Sheehan and others who have lost children in Iraq have absolute moral authority, as New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd put it. One wonders if Ms. Dowd believes that pro-war activists who have lost children in Iraq have the same absolute moral authority. God has absolute moral authority. Human beings do not. To publicly denounce the very ideals that these men died fighting for, however, is to dishonor their sacrifices. Casey Sheehan, like many of the men and women in our all-volunteer army, believed strongly in what he was fighting for. While it's impossible to know what he would have wanted, I think it's safe to guess that Casey Sheehan would not have wanted anyone, no less his own mother, to use the spotlight of his heroism and his death to say that the cause he believed in, enough so that he was willing to give his life for it, was unjust.

The most powerful argument the anti-war protesters have on their side is their genuine concern for our men and women serving in uniform. They can't support the troops without supporting the war, but they care about our soldiers so much that they want them to come home safely, and as soon as possible, even before their job is done. Call me naive, but I do believe that some anti-war activists sincerely mean well. That being said, keep in mind what road is paved with good intentions.

Whether they are doing it intentionally or not, anti-war protesters are hurting our side and helping the enemy. Jim Mueller, the new national commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, said that anti-war protesters will eventually devastate troop morale, just like they did in the 1960s. Mueller remarked, Morale means everything on the field of battle, but good morale starts at home, and that's why the [Veterans of Foreign Wars] is so concerned with this upcoming protest.

Anti-war protesters don't just lower the morale of our own troops; they boost the morale of our enemy. According to the organization Accuracy In Media, soldiers who have come back from Iraq have reported that anti-war protests help the enemy fight harder. In the 1960s, the North Vietnamese knew that anti-war protests were helping them win the war. James Stockdale, a real American hero who might be best known as Ross Perot's 1992 running mate, recalls an interrogation he endured in 1966 when he was a prisoner of war in Vietnam. His captor, Nguyen Khac Vien, said to him, Our country has no capability to defeat you on the battlefield. Vien's next words became an immortal slogan of the enemy. He added, We will win this war on the streets of New York.

I need to clarify one final point and then I am done with this.  I have to tell you, some of the remarks here have caused me great worry and torment.  I don't think everyone has to support the war, but no one should undermine troop morale by protesting. There is certainly room for academic debate about whether or not it was the right choice to go to war. I think it's wrong to protest in the middle of a war, but I also believe that before and after the war, it is important for there to be a serious and critical discussion of American foreign policy. But when anti-war protesters call for America's defeat during the war, they're undermining our mission and supporting our enemies. Even if they have the best intentions, anti-war activists aren't doing anyone any favors. The more difficult they make it for our soldiers to do their job, the longer it's going to take before they can come home.  In that sense, it definitely is another Viet Nam.


Protests are good
The past is the past, the present is the present.  Clinton was protested, good..who cares, not I..Now that Bush is being protested, good thing too..I, unlike some republicans I have met in my life time, do not defend just because someone is democrat..I have voted republican in the past..not a presidential election but local elections..I am a registered independent..I try to observe and decide both sides of the issue..It just happens that this administration, IMHO, is corrupt to the max with a president that is inept.  You will see, when we finally get someone else in the WH..be it republican or democrat, I will probably be moaning and groaning about that person too..I call em as I see em.
There are protests, they just go unreported. sm
My cousin in Ireland gave me a heads up to an antiwar protest in DC that reported thousands of people. Here, they reported it like there was a couple of freaks with signs, or did not report it at all.

The day the report came back Pat Tillman was killed, possibly executed by his own men, and covered up they decided to distract everyone with the Paris Hilton goes to jail story all day.
Protests going on all over France like this.
http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/international-2/124092166956780.xml&storylist=health
"Tea Party" protests

Planned "Tea Party" protests.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510129,00.html


Anti Gay (and USA) Protests to Hit Key West

I read a daily blog on Key West real estate and today's posting happened to be on a slightly different subject.


Apparently Fred Phelps and his minions are planning on a trip to Key West to demonstrate their hate of not only gay people but the USA.


Can we take them down as the terrorist organization they are yet? One of his cohorts is already down there:


====================================================


The Key West community will meet tonight to decide whether -- and if so, how -- to respond to a nationally infamous man who hates homosexuals.


The Rev. Fred Phelps, head of the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas, is scheduled to be in Key West on May 22 to protest the Gay/Straight Alliance at Key West High School. Phelps also is planning to demonstrate at the entrance to the island, in front of Sigsbee Park and at B'Nai Zion synagogue, according to a letter Phelps' daughter sent to Police Chief Donie Lee.


The group is planning an outdoor demonstration "regarding the judgment of God with respect to the dangers of promoting homosexuality, and the rest of the filthy manner of life and idol worshipping in this country," the letter states. The city does not require a permit for such assemblies.


Phelps' church is not recognized by mainstream Baptists and is monitored by the Anti-Defamation League as a hate group. His "church" comprises mostly his family members, about 60 of whom are said to protest three times a day, with signs that read, "God Hates Fags" and other anti-homosexual slurs. The church also protests at military funerals, claiming the deaths are the result of America's tolerance of homosexuality.


The Rev. Joe McMurray, pastor of the gay-friendly Metropolitan Community Church, where tonight's meeting will be held, said he does not think that Anthony Charles Capo Jr., who often holds a sign that says "God Hates Fags.com" on Key West street corners, is formally connected with the Kansas group.


Meeting organizers will solicit ideas from community members and law enforcement officials, said McMurray. The gathering will include the police chief, Schools Superintendent Randy Acevedo and some city commissioners.


"We can come together and decide if there will be a response, and what it would be," McMurray said. "We'll also hear from law enforcement to see what they prefer in the interest of public safety."


The Police Department is developing an operational plan for Phelps' demonstration, but Lee emphasized that the general public should ignore Phelps.


"I know it's difficult and I know, firsthand, that it's an emotional issue, but as far as I'm concerned, that's the way to deal with it," said Lee, who is gay. Any demonstrations from counter-protesters would only make it more difficult for officers to keep the peace, Lee said.


Phelps' First Amendment rights allow him and his followers to express their opinions, and the police cannot arrest them for doing so.


Lee explained that if someone says something that directly creates a public safety issue, then the situation changes. He used the example of someone yelling "fire" in a crowded theater as an example that would jeopardize public safety and therefore be an arrestable offense.


"Short of that, people have the right to express their opinion," Lee said.


McMurray said he does not know what prompted Phelps to target the high school group in a town known for its acceptance of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people, and its official motto of "One Human Family."


"I don't know if anybody has the 'why' behind Fred Phelps," McMurray said. "He wants to come disrupt, create unease and disturb the peace in a peace-loving community, and he raises money by suing municipalities who violate his civil rights during protests. He intimidates communities."


McMurray and others hope to hear ideas that would turn Phelps' protest into something positive for the community. One option would be a fundraiser for every hour that Phelps is here. People could make an hourly pledge to local charities such as AIDS Help and the Gay and Lesbian Community Center, so the longer Phelps remained in town, the more money he would help raise for gay-friendly service organizations.


"This cannot be personal," said McMurray, who is gay. "Once it becomes personal, we're operating on his level."


J.T. Thompson, a graphic designer who founded the "One Human Family" movement, emphasized that confrontation with Phelps and his group will not serve any purpose.


"This guy earns a living making confrontations happen," Thompson said. "It will be a good day in the fact that we can unite people here. The meeting will gather input to unite the community in a peaceful, positive and loving response."


Protests at Tiller's funeral.
We are all entitled to our opinions about abortion but for God sakes people....why do we feel the need to protest at someone's funeral.  Isn't the family going through enough.  Their loved one was gunned down and now you are protesting at his funeral.  I'm pro-life and these protests at his funeral upset even me.  It is hard enough attending a funeral service of a loved one without this added drama and craziness.
Isn't it time to watch Hannity or bowl or some other watch Nascar?
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Protests erupt in Iraq in support of shoe-throwing reporter
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=3.0.2815505803

AMEN!!!!! - (no message inside - just an Amen).
no message - but you looked anyway. :-) :-) ;-)
I like having Glenn on Fox.
The only thing I don't like is when he goes on Bill O'Reilly's show and Bill hardly lets Glenn finish a sentence at all.  I like Bill too but I am getting annoyed at his constant interrupting people and not letting them finish a sentence.  I'm half tempted to send O'Reilly an email asking him to try to not do that, but I really don't want to show up on the emails during the showing.  LOL.
normally i like glenn beck
but he is taking this waaaaay too defensively - i thought that rev lowery was hilarious and "groovy"! and there were plenty of baby boomers who shook their heads and smiled at him as well as obama because we had heard this before. i will be 44 this year, born in 1965, and my mother was born in the first year of the baby boom, 1946. when she and my father divorced in the early 1970s, she could not even rent an apartment because she was not married, nor get a loan because she was not married. we had to move back in with her parents in order to have a roof over our heads because, without a husband, she was a nonentity. but the times were a'changing. and as a young child, i heard often cool things like what lowery said...and bra burning to boot, not that my mother was hip enough to ever do that, but she worked two jobs and went to community college and eventually was able to build us a home (yes, through farmers home administration - thank god for them or we could never have broken through the discrimination against women at the time). through her brave choices (we could have lived with her parents forever - but she wanted her own life) and her choice of friends, black, yellow, red and white - at time when nice white girls who were prom queens and cheerleaders should not be seen with any of them, she showed me that the world is huge and that sometimes we have to laugh at our white selves :-)
I like Glenn Beck. He used to be on CNN
Probably because he was not really for Obama. Anyway, he brought up today that there are sections in the 677 some page stimulus that do not make sense at all. For example, the immigration section states something like: Article 45677 is to follow ACT 6544434 and then to follow 664444 and should be proceed with ACT 6654434 and so on. Glenn Beck said he had his top advisers and lawyer friends try to figure out what does it really mean and guess what? NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS.

So there are sections in this stimulus package and we have no idea what it means and some of the parties want this passed quickly? Why? So it will try and fix the economy? The first bailout did nothing?
I like Glenn Beck. He used to be on CNN
Probably because he was not really for Obama. Anyway, he brought up today that there are sections in the 677 some page stimulus that do not make sense at all. For example, the immigration section states something like: Article 45677 is to follow ACT 6544434 and then to follow 664444 and should be proceed with ACT 6654434 and so on. Glenn Beck said he had his top advisers and lawyer friends try to figure out what does it really mean and guess what? NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS.

So there are sections in this stimulus package and we have no idea what it means and some of the parties want this passed quickly? Why? So it will try and fix the economy? The first bailout did nothing?

So that is why we are to call our representatives to try and stop this stimulus package so we can basically digest what is really involved. After all, how much money is involved? A LOT! Talk about jumping the gun with a A LOT OF MONEY.
I love Glenn too, but he now comes
on too early for me to watch most of the time. I loved it when he was on at a later time. I'm hoping the network puts him in a later time slot so DH can also watch...that is, if he works this year. He likes him too.
What is it with Glenn Beck?....(sm)

I think this link pretty much sums up Glenn Beck.  Pay close attention to the "Beckisms."  And you guys are clinging to his every word. 


http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Glenn_Beck


Don' know how many of you like Glenn Beck but here's a link to see

About Wal-Mart.


 


http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/18216/


Love Glenn Beck
He has such a great way of pointing out the obvious. You do have to wonder why they all keep wanting to raise the taxes on the wealthy when that would include the majority of them - now we know! They don't pay!!!
Another Glenn Beck Video
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/20816/?ck=1
Glenn Beck mentioned this
last week on his show. He is having a special show in New York this Friday. He is wanting all the people who care for their country to come together. We are to look at his website and join in on "We Surround Them".

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/21018/?ck=1

Glenn could not have made his point
better! MSNBC picked up on the show so quickly, along with all the regular critics, they really spread his message for him. They are such a great advertising firm for him and Bill-O! Thanks for posting it on here!
Glenn Beck: Does anyone in Washington Pay Taxes?

He's really getting ticked off again.


 


http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/20937/


Glenn Beck's problem?? He is a realist.
He is not hoodwinked by the powers that be.
Glenn Beck is making an impact

and they can't stand it. 


Go Glenn!


Oh, you forgot to call Glenn Beck

fat, too.   How ridiculous. 


Glenn Beck is awesome and extreeeeemely intelligent.


Oh, Glenn Beck is intelligent. It's the people
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Amen, JTBB, Amen!!
Just because Bush and his cronies wanted to break the law and did so, does not make it right. I don't care how much these right wing basket cases howl over this, wrong is wrong!

I was appalled during the Bush' time in office at what he and Cheney were doing, thumbing their nose at the rest of the world, meting out their own "cowboy" justice..right or wrong. THAT is why the rest of the world now hates us - no matter what lame excuses the brainwashed majority on this board want to accept.

I am glad they will not be getting away with it.

They are criminals. Period. End of story.
Amen, Zville MT, Amen
That is a great idea. They should have to live like us so they have a clue what we are going through.
Glenn Beck starts his new show tonight
I can't wait. I've missed him. Sometimes he makes sense, sometimes he doesn't, but he sure does tell it like it is.
Yup, forgot Glenn came over from CNN, yes, he has great informative shows....nm
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"Thomas Paine" was on Glenn Beck tonight
He said so many people are sending tea bags but they aren't getting anywhere with it. Even though thousands have been sent in, they aren't getting to the people they are being sent to and instead, are being thrown out because "they might contain an illegal substance." So he is asking people to take the square tags at the end of the string from the tea bags and send those in instead of the whole teabag.
Glenn Beck is a swinging...um...oh yeah, pendulum.-nm
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I don't watch Fox, I watch CNN and feel the
exact same was .... just sayin
I don't watch Fox, I watch CNN and feel the
exact same way .... just sayin
Glenn Beck:Obama's budget a loaded weapon aimed at you.
By Glenn Beck
Host, “Glenn Beck“

Hello America,

If you had any doubt that we were on “The Road to Socialism,” President Obama’s just released budget should clear up that confusion. In fact, we’re so on The Road to Socialism that Barack Obama’s budget reads like he went to MapQuest and printed out turn-by-turn directions to get us to socialism as quickly as possible. So far, President Obama is really making a big scary mess of things and this budget is a giant step in the wrong direction.

Believe me–I understand that I’m not the only one who feels this way. But there have been lots of times in my career when I felt like I was all alone in my thinking (and that’s exactly why I’m having my “We Surround Them” event on March 13th…so you know that you’re not alone –click here for more details). So it’s always comforting for me when I hear others saying the same thing. Just this past weekend on “FOX News Sunday,” host Chris Wallace asked Arizona’s Republican Senator Jon Kyl, “How big a change in direction does the Obama budget represent in the relationship between government and the American people?” Without missing a beat, Senator Kyl quoted The Wall Street Journal by saying, “The budget represents a historical shift in the ideological direction of U.S. economic policy.” No mincing words there. Then he reminded everyone that The Wall Street Journal also stated in an editorial that President Obama is attempting to expand the role of government to such a dominant position that its power can never be rolled back. A respected United States Senator and The Wall Street Journal–oh, I like that company. (Too bad we’re all agreeing on how bad things are getting.)

Here are some of the budget’s broad strokes:

* Obama’s budget takes the size of our government to the largest it’s been since World War II.
* It’s got a $1.4 trillion tax increase in it (and oh yeah–we’re in the middle of a recession).
* It doubles the debt in eight years.
* It never balances the budget and proposes that, for the next 10 years, our deficits are at a record high.

Hmmm. Usually I like to frame things in a “good news / bad news” context. That just won’t work here, but I don’t want to be a big downer. So let me put on a happy face and say that all the above was merely the regular, garden-variety bad news! Now here comes the super awful really bad news:

* Like a loaded weapon, this budget is aimed directly at you.

Is there a quicker way to end a honeymoon period for a new president than to propose a bunch of new taxes? It’s going to take a lot of serenading from Beyonce to make people forget about having less money…especially in this economy. See, not only is there a proposed huge tax increase for the energy and manufacturing sectors (and those get passed on to everyone), but overall tax rates are going up. All this is a real gut shot for small business. What too many people fail to remember is that small business is big business in America–over 70% of all American business is done by a small business. That means it’s likely that you either own or work for one, so President Obama wants more of your money (and I’m guessing it’s not like you have a whole lot extra lying around these days.)

And then there’s Obama’s suggestion of a “long-term investment in the economy.” That’s a fancy way of saying “increased spending.” (You don’t exactly need a decoder ring to figure that one out.) Another $30 billion for AIG…after they paid out six and seven figure bonuses and recorded the highest quarterly loss ever–over $60 billion–in U.S. history? How deep can our pockets be expected to be? Remember–every dollar the government “invests” in failing businesses is one of your dollars. If you had a stock broker who made the kind of crappy investments Washington has been making (and wants to make more of), you’d have fired them long ago.

This really isn’t that new a story–Democrats have a reputation of taxing and spending because, well…they always tax and spend. President Obama tries to soften his budget’s blow by stating that the tax increases don’t kick in until 2011. Um, Mr. President? It’s not exactly like 2011 is off in the sci-fi future where we’ll all have flying cars and live the life of George Jetson. Just like you need to plan ahead for re-election, small business owners need to do the same thing–plan for their future. So congratulations–now they’re doing that by bracing themselves for the tax avalanche coming their way in just a little over a year and a half from now. So instead of fueling the economy now–when we need it–business will tighten its belt and lower today’s bottom line in preparation for tomorrow’s new taxes. That lowers tax receipts! Instead of getting better, things get worse. Even I get that, and I’m the alcoholic rodeo clown.

Is it Election Day, 2012 yet?
ACORN
I heard on the news that ACORN also received some money in the bailout package, put in by democrats!! Guess who was involved with ACORN...
ACORN
Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now....... the nation's largest community organization of low and moderate income families working ...

Don't be fooled by the last part about working. While they have done some good for some people, they are mostly about getting votes. They have had many of their people indicted for voter fraud. THey are up again for investigation for this very same thing. Obama has thrown over $800,000 to them to help hire more people to get on the streets and coerce folks into registering to vote, even if they are already registered.

They have been found to fradulently doctor papers to appear as a registered voter, including deceased, homeless, even nonexistent names and addresses.

Acorn
HA, the truth comes out!  Sen Obama's very small relationship to Acorn was in 1982 when he was involved with a group called project vote.  Acorn was also loosely involved in that.  However, Sen John McCain was involved with them, Acorn, just two years ago and had much praise for the group.  And interestingly enough, the ONLY people that are trying to tie Obama to the group is the McCain campaign.  Kind of funny how McCain works.  Palin and McCain's wife complain that Obama voted not to fund the troops and yet McCain, two months after Obama turned it down (and ONLY because there was no time table written in) McCain also turns it down, because they wrote in a time table.  How does his wife feel about that?  They both voted NO on the same issue.  McCain is sickening. 
ACORN is very serious
I'm in Ohio and we're smack dab in the middle of it. I don't care who's involved with it, someone needs to do something and all Jennifer Brunner is doing is tying up the courts with her stupid appeals. Something needs to be done because if not, whoever wins the election, the other side will be able to challenge because of all the fraudulent votes cast - then we'll go through the 2000 election 100x worse!
oh-h acorn

various community organizations who hired people to sign up new voters.  How s-c-a-r-y is that???


 


oh yea, acorn
have you seen their building. It's some funeral home or something in Louisiana that's supposed to house over 250 businesses....shaaaaa! Glen Beck's been covering it.
Regarding ACORN...
I heard this morning that ACORN may be supplying empolyees to the Census Department to conduct the census next year - anyone else hear this? Just curious because I'm just not sure how they would get away with that, seeing as though they are under investigation in nine states.
I am sure that ACORN was

probably started with the best of intentions, but there are just too many issues that have come up with them that makes me think they are a corrupt organization. 


I guess they said that ACORN as well as other organizations like the NAACP were to get 1.4 million volunteers for the 2010 census.  I need to do some more research on this to see actually how much they will be involved in the actual census.  There involvement in any of it....I personally feel is wrong but I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.


With the help of ACORN he got 59% -

ACORN
Any ideas of why ACORN changed their name to Community Organizers International?
John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly....
improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment." Interesting that 4 of the 5 were Democrats. Still..John McCain has publically said he was sorry for his part in it, that he was wrong in what he did and has apologized for it. Like I said before, I respect that. Everyone makes mistakes. No everyone is man enough to own up to them and not hide behind Nancy Pelosi and the DNC like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank are doing. Now THERE is a pair to draw to.
Obama and ACORN...
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/05/obamas-acorn/
That would have been 30 billion to ACORN of the...sm
return on the investments. That and other returns going to special interests.


Think about it. This is an investment. NOT a bailout. They need to get rid of that word.


If the dems wanted to write in 30 billion dollars to the ACORN from future profits....and others....they know this is an investment.


They need to tell the public this.


These profits need to be returned to the taxpayer, and to Social Security and pay down the national debt.


Not more special interests.





That's a big holdup of all the add ons that the dems put on, that need to be changed for the good of the people.


They need to get back closer to three pages....instead of 103 pages of earmarks for special interests.