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Addendum: Forgot the part about working 2 jobs

Posted By: just to make ends meet. I'd be "lazy" to on 2008-10-21
In Reply to: So, rich tax cuts expire, middle class gets benefit, - and it's socialist Armageddon that...sm

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Which part is your friend working in?
I've checked out the State Department's travel advisory and it is most geared towards the border towns, along Arizona, California etc. We are supposed to go to Cancun for Spring Break so this is kind of making me leary, although we'll be in a resort, you still have to be careful.
PS. Forgot the part about "I don't think
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They forgot to mention what it was for & Afghanistan was part of the trip-a lot for 1 wk

Indeed, in a February 17 article, the ANSA English Media Service reported (accessed from the Nexis database): "Since arriving in Italy on Saturday, Pelosi has visited the American air base at Aviano in northeast Italy and the American military cemetery in Florence and is due at the NATO Joint Forces Command in Naples Wednesday." Further, a February 19 press release issued by Pelosi's office stated: "Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Congressional delegation today were briefed by U.S. Admiral Mark Fitzgerald, Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Europe and Africa, and Commander of Allied Joint Force Command Naples. Admiral Fitzgerald and his NATO staff provided information on NATO activities in the Balkans, the ongoing training of Iraqi Security Forces, and operations against pirates off the coast of Somalia." The release further stated: "On Saturday, Speaker Pelosi and the Congressional delegation visited Aviano Air Base where the Speaker pinned the Bronze Star Medal on Technical Sergeant Phoebus Lazaridis for extraordinary service in Afghanistan. The delegation paid their respects to the more than 4,400 American World War II soldiers buried at the Florence American Cemetery on the outskirts of Florence on Sunday."


On February 21, Pelosi released a statement about her trip to Afghanistan, in which she said, "For the past two days, I have led an eight Member House delegation to Afghanistan to visit U.S. troops," during which the delegation "met with U.S. military leaders, and the U.S. Diplomatic team in Kabul to better assess the best course of action to further our national security interests in preparation for the completion of President Obama's strategic review of the Afghanistan policy" and "met with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who is sending his own advisors to Washington as part of the review process."


temporary jobs lead to permanent jobs -
projects are always just temporary; however, they lead to more permanent positions. Also, by the time some of these "temporary" jobs are over, the crisis should be settling down too. Do you think that rebuilding our infrastructure is going to happen in a day, week, or month?

What should we do? Tell these people who will be temporarily paid not to work for the next couple of years on these jobs because they are only temporary? That is a good idea - nobody do the temporary jobs, that way the projects will never get done and the deficit will not go up, and the economy will just continue to decline...

That's a great way to handle it!
Addendum to above
What I failed to mention and is an important part of the whole scenario is that in Holland, it is a personal choice. Doctors can euthanize newborns without even asking the parents. Caretakers of elderly or disabled can have a physician euthanize if they all feel that person is suffering or does not have a good quality of life. They have made it a personal decision and asked that the government stay out of it. They have already fallen off that slippery slope. I do not want to see my country fall down the same moral abyss.
Addendum
Obama visited troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. The visit to the military hospital in Germany was cancelled after the Pentagon raised concerns over political activity on that base. He also has visited troops many times at Walter Reed when stateside. McCain did not hesitate to use the soldiers for political gain, which is exactly what Obama was trying to avoid.

Ultimately, it seems removing the troops from Iraq ASAP shows much more concern for them and their families than sending them there in the first place, especially considering Bush’s lies and the hidden agendas. Some documented body count figures might help show just how concerned Bush has been over these past 5 years. Since these are only the documented cases, the actual numbers are much higher.

US 4134 killed 30,324 wounded
US coalition allies 314 NA
Iraqi military 8514 NA
Iraqi civilian count 86,457 to 94,330, depending on who you ask.

A whopping total of between 99,419 to 107,292 fatalities. Bush and Cheney and only Bush and Cheney bear this responsibility. Hard to say whether those tears Bush shed were for the families or the cameras.

Clinton went into Somalia and Kosovo as part of a UN coalition for peacekeeping purposes in countries where genocide was well documented. No lies here either. No need to conjure up a war. In this case, Clinton was a joiner, not an instigator. Demonization has nothing to do with party affiliation. It has to do with the individual’s character, or lack thereof.

Addendum to above post...
a family of 4 making $80K a year can afford to insure their children. SORRYYY. Tooo tired..longgg day. LOL.
Addendum to cutoff.
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addendum to just a thought
when I posted 'i don't trust him', he is scary, etc - I was responding to what I have been reading here and elsewhere when people talk about Obama and the underying insinuations speak volumes IMO.
Addendum for sake of clarity.
For the sake of clarity, the hearings on the The Imperial Presidency of GW Bush and Possible Legal Response are being conducted in the House Judiciary Committee, not the House of Representatives since, like the energy bill, Pelosi's position is one of "impeachment is off the table." Just how long she can keep it off the table is anybody's guess. John Conyers is skeptical by nature and, in the past, has been lukewarm and uncommitted one way or the other on impeachment. Evidently he has changed his mind when confronted with evidence he could no longer ignore. This was discussed by him during his interview on Democracy Now! in one of those programs back in June. Though he was not willing to comment on "an ongoing investigation," he did make it quite clear that he will exhaust all avenues in "getting to the bottom" of the issues that are being raised in this HDC process and take appropriate action.

http://thebivouac.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/rep-kucinich-takes-phone-caller-questions-on-impeachment-video/
Kucinich talking about HJC impeachment process, C-Span, Washington Journal. There is about 30 minutes of video here.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/35061
At this link, you will find these links:
Hearing on Impeachment Videos
Submitted by davidswanson on Sat, 2008-07-26 18:06.

Kucinich enters hearing to cheers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2MWTh0QF40
Rep. Robert Wexler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T1ojrKhp6E
Rep. Steve King:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eZxCloEbQk
Rep. Jerrold Nadler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL7259BAP9s
Rep. Dennis Kucinich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRAcenaTVkQ
Bruce Fein:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80IphtHrFzg
Vincent Bugliosi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDAFozFn4kU
Bruce Fein:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXyDK2-p4fU
Vincent Bugliosi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q53p34yzZac
Vincent Bugliosi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7abu9a0xtNI
Lamar Smith:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epf0QpeFcag
Rep. Baldwin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFNmanXtZ9o
Maurice Hinchey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CHKV-7vvYk
Rep. Dan Lungren:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKc5e0oAvYM
Protesters ejected:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uosDxv1bjCc
Rep. Walter Jones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU5HKfes0cE
Congressman Steve Cohen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZezNyKmKF1M

Just another addendum to the long list of
In the comedy arena, they should have let McC carry his own distinction which we witnessed at the charity roast. Red camp overplays their hand once again. Big surprise.
Addendum 5 different locations within 50 miles of me. (nm)
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Actually I believe in working hard and working
Are you really that bitter?  I'll say a prayer for you.
only part saved was the ignorant part
You can read the whole article.  This quote was saved to show what she said that was so stupid.
jobs
my husband has been a carpenter and self-employed since he was fresh out of school.  after 20 years he had no job, no work anywhere.  he had to go take a job at a store making less than half of what he used to make.  now they are saying they may be laying him off and he hasnt been there long enough to collect unemployment.  I cant imagine things getting worse, but I fear they are going to.
Not me, I have 3 jobs, thank you. Why?
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JOBS
Maybe Obama is thinking these jobs will last until he is out of office, and then when the jobs are finished, and people are out of work, he can say, see what happened when I was no longer in office.
No, it is not working very well for them.
see link.
Why are THEY working to fix it?
I asked DH today, why are they working to fix it? Aren't they the ones who got us into this mess in the first place? What's next let he criminal decide what punishment they will be getting.

Also, seems to me they are not real interested in finding a solution but are too interested in blaming the other side (just my opinion).

Every one of them should be held responsible and they should pay every single cent back they've received from the payouts whether they are democrat or republican.

Also, isn't one or two million enough for them? Heck, I could live very comfortable on $500K. But they are so greedy they have to millions and millions! DH said they are ignoring the fact this is not their money.
We can all see how well that is working
Flame away. It's the truth.
it's not working!
what should it be? I get an old spice commercial, a twix commercial and some person in a library. that's it.
I think God is still working on that, which is why O
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Sorry, I was working...

To begin with I'd like to see the video of Obama saying that he is a Muslim--WITH at least one minute of the interview prior to and after the "quote".  Also, I'd like the person who said that he didn't know how many states were in the United States to back that up with a referrence.  There are SO many others, but those are the two that come to mind. 


it's not working for you, is it? nm
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CIA and FBI are working

My aunt talked to an FBI agent just a few days before Nov. 4th and they are still working on it.  Supposedly O constantly shows he has a passport as proof of his birth certificate because in order to get a passport you have to show proof of a birth certificate.  


Well in order to be president, you have to show proof of birth certificate, not a passport.  Guess what?  O does not show it.  Hospitals have no record of birth certificate.  All O has to do is SHOW THE STUPID THING and get this all resolved.  So why does he not just show it?   Why is he stalling.  Why is O wasting time judges, courts, and lawyers time.  JUST SHOW THE STUPID THING.


I'm working on that one............sm
I've already had to eat crow once tonight.....lol

Look up at the top.
Most QA here are already working

I'm not sure I fully understand.  I know that there is no law against who you hire and how you hire. I know of facilities that have on-site MTs and have no plans to outsource at all. 


Private practices if they desire hire on-site MTs because they can usually do coding/billing, answer phones, and make coffee (LOL).  It happens.


I've run into 2 different people that have said when you get tired of working from home, come see us...  We'll hire ya'....  LOL - makes me feel good about this profession. 


I think it depends on how greedy that particular physician/facility is and how much they care about the quality of dictation and how much time they want to spend correcting it. 


Well of course Obama wants to keep jobs in the USA. Here is why.
Do you want $8,500 of your dollars to fund the Useless Nations? I know I don't.

Barack Hussein Obama has a legislative record in the Senate and one of his proudest accomplishments is The Global Poverty Act (S. 2433).

Barack Hussein Obama's Global Poverty Act will commit us to a stealth United Nations-inspired global tax of $845 Billion dollars... that comes to approximately an $8500.00 tax burden for every household in the United States!

Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media wrote:

"[T]he legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which... would amount to $845 billion 'over and above what the U.S. already spends.'"

"The plan passed the House in 2007 'because most members didn't realize what was in it.' Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require."

The United Nation's actual record on ending pain and suffering around the world is pathetic and dismal.

Here is the link, check it out for yourselves before you flame me. I am sure I am not the only one who is worried about what will happen when/if he gets into office.

ExposeObama.com


It is not that Americans won't do the jobs...
it is really that they will not do them for the wages given. Unfortunately, we expect a cheap food source, which we get. If farmers have to pay Americans to labor away in fields, they will have to pay more than they do and our food costs will go up. I am actually okay with that. Perhaps retail markup will have to go down some, as well. Coming from California, I know what kind of living conditions migrant famers live in (huge amounts of people in subpar housing, etc.) and understand that Americans WILL do the work, but only for a fair amount of pay.
I've had jobs since the day I was old enough to
even though there were times I could barely scrape together 2 cents to buy something I or my family needed. Yes, jobs are pretty easy to get, if you don't think you're "above" working at a gas station, McDonald's - whatever it takes. There are plenty of people who use social programs in lieu of finding a job. I see it all the time. They milk the system, if you don't admit that, you're in denial. I don't believe for one minute that the hard-working people in the country that make decent money should have to pay for these people. I have no problem with programs for those who truly need it, but if you were truly to examine most of the recipients of these programs, a good lot of them are abusing it. I worked in a law office where I saw this and I worked in medical offices where I saw this. The sad reality is that those who milk the system are darn good at it and REAP the benefits, but the people who truly need welfare, disability, etc., fight for sometimes YEARS and never receive benefits.

I think it's highly tacky of you to insinuate that the only way Whoopie could've attained her success is by using social programs. That is a borderline racist remark, IMO. Would you say that about a successful white actress? Hmmmph.
Just WHO do you think does provide jobs?
the middle class?
how to figure out which jobs are on their way out
Anything that requires a loan: houses, cars, trade schools, university of Phoenix type schools, shopping malls, vacations and travel, elective surgeries or cosmetic dental lasik surgeries, etc.

Jobs that will increase:
Anything that helps America:
Teachers, nurses, geologists, scientists, infrastructure, power grids, alternative energy, solar.
how it affects our jobs
It will affect us if the automakers fail because it is estimated that upwards of 6 million, and some estimates are as high as 10-12 million, people could potentially face unemployment. That is those working for the big 3 as well as those who supply them and those who work for business that all of these people utilize. 6 million is a lot of people now without health benefits and paychecks. Obviously, that will have an impact of numbers of doctor and hospital visits.
Green jobs.......... sm
would take quite a bit of time to implement as it would take time to build the utility facilities, not to mention retrofitting households to use green energy. I don't think this is a viable short-term plan to help our country, although I do see a benefit from it long-term. However, in creating green jobs and bankrupting the coal industry like he said he would that creates yet another situation where people will be jobless and not paying taxes. With a good portion of our electric energy coming from the coal industry, this number could be significant enough to offset any benefit obtained with green energy and green jobs.

We are in a financial crisis and I don't see that there is anyway out of it (unless they yank that Golden Fleece) without immediate tax increases on all tax-paying Americans.

Like I said, a plan is just a plan and even with a Democratic Senate, I don't foresee his tax plans coming to fruition in the near future.
You nut jobs can have this place

Keep on ranting about the stupid b/c like as if you are smarter than Hillary and McCain.  If there'd been even a SNIFF of wrongdoing in the b/c, they would have drug it out and already drug it through the mud.  Personally I don't think a lot of the nut jobs who hang out here are even MTs.  I think they are professional political pot stirers!!!


They are bragging about 3M jobs

being created. Guess what DH reminded me of? There are millions more unemployed than the 3M (he said 10M, but I'm not sure on that), plus most of these jobs will not happen until 2011. How's that going to help?


I'm serious. That will leave 7M still on the unemployment rolls. We are really in for a long haul here. Thank heavens I don't live in a city. At least we can grow our own food.


You know if they want to create jobs

why aren't we drilling for oil?  Why aren't we getting wind farms going?  If our government would take more money to look into alternative fuels, not only would that stop our dependency on foreign oil but we will need workers to maintain those things, etc.  Those will be jobs that will last.  It won't be like construction work like Obama wants.  Once the roads are repaired and bridges fixed, etc....then what?  I just think we are going in the wrong direction and I just don't understand why.  We need to tap our resources with offshore drilling.  We need to drill Alaska.  While we are doing that, we need to look for alternatives to oil.  The sooner they do that, the sooner car companies can make environmentally safer cars and vehicles.  I mean....come on.


I read somewhere that most of the jobs
won't get up and running until 2010 or 2011. It takes time. Everything takes time, and so, in the meantime, we have to go it on our own. It's sink or swim right now.
Particularly the construction jobs.
Those often take at least two years of planning, getting bids, getting materials and getting started. Not very helpful right now. I think everyone on the Hill has totally lost any connection with the real world.
From my understanding, the jobs

created would only be temporary. Don't forget, road and bridge construction only lasts in the summer in the northern states, and when those road and bridge jobs are done, what's next?


The money being doled out for infrastructure is definitely not enough. There are many, many roads and bridges that have to be built/rebuilt in the country and any one of them would cost $1 million and up.  PA is getting $2.7M for roads. Is that going to take care of the roads? Doubt it. Headlines recenty in our paper stated PA was going to get $6B. I checked the charts and don't see where he gets that figure.


Jobs going overseas
I forgot to mention - as MSMT said in her post titled "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's wrong with the economy" - it stated on yahoo was an article about the layoffs at Dell in Austin.

"Everyone in the room was fired, their jobs shipped overseas".

That's one instance.

I'm taking an online course and 6 students wrote in stating they need to get retrained because they just lost their jobs within the last month. Their job went overseas.


But think of the ''green'' jobs
created by the new technology.  Someone will have to develop a ''fartometer'' to measure the bovine emissions.  Each cow will be fitted with one by a trained technician. Somebody will have to monitor the readings.  Somebody else will have to compile the data.  And  there will need to be a billing department to calculate the ''gas tax'' due.  Surely there will be a place in this new bureaucracy for displaced MTs?  (Unless the readings are remotely transmitted to Pakistan...)
Every group has their nut jobs.
You cannot group all conservatives into that category especially since there are just as many nut jobs on the liberal side.  Get over yourself and give me a break! 
The right not only defends their nut jobs sm

they have people out there like Lamepuke and Billo the Clown pandering to these crazy loons.  Some people would sell out their own mother for ratings and to put more millions of dollars into their own pockets.  It's pretty pathetic that these two despicable TV/radio man sluts have to resort to attracting the lunatics of the world to boost their ratings.


Working for ministries..

Working for a non-profit ministry is vastly different than working for a for-profit company.  I say this, because I work in a ministry.  Many ministries have Codes of Conduct.  However, it's legally required that you be informed verbally and in writing of these codes of conduct, and then you sign a waiver stating that yes, you can follow those, or no you don't.  You have a choice up front.  It's a contract, and you can choose to sign and abide or not to sign and walk away.


I have no idea of the standards for the Salvation Army, but I doubt they are as stringent as what you are saying.  The rumor mill is an ugly thing.  I think we all played pass it down as children, and we know how drastically a statement can be altered when passed down just a minimum of two to three times.


If this guy says the surge is working...
November 29, 2007
Read More: Iraq

Murtha: 'Surge is working'



Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) acknowledged that the surge of U.S. troops in Iraq is “working” after returning from a brief trip to Iraq last week, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

The comments, coming from a harsh critic of President Bush’s Iraq war policy, suggest there may be a shift in Democratic rhetoric on Iraq in light of recent reductions in violence in Iraq over the last several months.


Murtha made the comments today at his district office in Johnstown, Pa.

He added that the Iraqi government needed to better “take care of themselves” and achieve greater progress with political reconciliation, according to the Post-Gazette.

The statement is a marked shift from this July, when Murtha told CNN that he “dismissed” an op-ed by Brookings Institution analysts Ken Pollack and Michael O’Hanlon that the surge was beginning to make progress, declaring their comments were “an illusion.”


Well, at least he has the guts to step up and tell the truth after seeing it with his own eyes.  Good for him!


you been working on that answer

for the last 2 hours?  My compliments - it was worth the wait.


 


Working harder
Dee I so agree with your post.  I already have a hard time making ends meet and I work for 3 services, dh works a FT job and a PT time job.  I will not work more so that the lazy class can do nothing to help themselves.  There are a lot of people I know that started out liking Obama (me included) but now will not vote for him because of his socialist politics.  If that is happening in one small area I'm sure it is happening all over this country.  When is someone going to care about the middle class, who carry the brunt of the tax burden of this country???? I don't like McCain either but he is the lesser of 2 evils. 
working in Washington?

The thing that everyone is forgetting is that not everyone is in Washington right now working - there are some people there trying to work out the details and everyone else will just vote when it is handed to them. 


In fact, they said that things were going better before McCain and Obama got there, that once McCain got there things started going downhill because there are a group of Republicans who do not want to support the package that their Republican President is wanting passed. 


Now, I don't know if I would support it or not if I was there, but I don't think that it is a requirement that every Senator be in that room while they are working on the details. 


I am not a Democrat, I am not a Republican - don't know yet for sure which way I am going - but I do not fault Obama for not automatically running to Washington just because McCain did.  In fact, from all the information I have gather this morning, McCain did not contribute anything to the conversation yesterday anyway. 


Exactly right. Remember that when you are working...
100% for the STATE.
Working your butt off
Is never having a day off because during the week you MT part time and take classes AND teach youth group and then you have a second account on the weekend.

I'd love to have kids but I'm not going to right now BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD IT and I don't expect anyone else to pay for them! It's called being RESPONSIBLE.

Think before you speak.