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Great post. The posts on this board indeed COULD

Posted By: be referring to Allah given their on 2009-05-08
In Reply to: Tell me if this sounds familiar - AnnuderMT

lack of tolerance.


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Ya gotta understand the rules. We have to post on this board only. They can post on any board they

Great post, great insight, great analysis, thanks!..nm
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Yes, great posts! It's very concerning sm
A good many years ago it was argued that the US economy should (would) go from a manufacturing economy to a service economy, the end result being better paying jobs in the US.  Well, we no longer have a manufacuring economy and have gone to the service economy. Now, not so slowly, the "service economy" jobs are going to parts elsewhere, and we are again being told tht this is good because in the end it will produce higher paying jobs in the US.  How is losing first the manufacturing jobs, and now the service sector jobs going to result in more and better paying jobs in the US?  Jobs doing what???? Given that the overall standard of living for the middle class has been declining for years, I think we are all being, for lack of a better word, "had."
Great posts DW and lib democrat!

Exactly, how could everyone be expected to attend college and get a degree just like that?  That's just not realistic.  People need to work and pay their bills, and if they go to college, the tuition may well be the biggest bill of all!  The college plan would work for some, of course, but not for all!


And I have been worried for awhile about our middle class disappearing in this country, but I didn't know Greenspan actually said that, so I'm glad you posted that!


That's anyone who posts on this board...sm
but, I'm sure I have called a spade a spade a time or two in my lifetime though, but I haven't called anyone on this board a racist.

But I still think the remarks that Bennett made were WRONG and if they weren't racist remarks I don't know what is. Sorry you can't see this. If he's not a racist why is he spewing the racist idealoges from the Freakonomics book anyhow, which by the way if these are the type remarks I can expect in the book I would rather burn my money.
If you mean the posts on this board.....
I agree. I don't know how many posts I've read here where people are just repeating lies put out by their "favorite" sources. I've read some posts that are okay, but all I keep hearing is Obama's evil, he's a destroyer, he's this he's that, or John McCain is senile, he's this or that.

I think people in nature love to "hate". They like to stir up "fear" in people. As in "If you vote for Obama he's going to let our enemies take over our country. Or "If you vote for McCain we're going to be at war with every country for the next 100 years". The most comical one I read was that Obama is a destroyer and anoher one that said Obama is trying to change the infrastructure of America. However, I did have to laugh at the ones "Obama wants to be GOD" and "Obama wants to be president of the UN" (funny I thought he wanted to be president of the US - maybe it was just a typo HA HA),

Looks like a lot of people are scared to death of both of them, but unfortunately that's who the "players" decided would be in there.

While this board can be "addicting" (finding myself visit it 6 and 7 times a day), I'm also finding it a place for gossip, rumors, and lies.

I remember reading a quote one time that kind of put things in perspective for me about people who spread lies/rumors. "Never make negavie comments or spread rumors about anyone. It depreciates their reputation and yours". - Brian Koslow

The most unfortunate part of the rumors/lies is there are a lot of people who simply believe they are passing on "important information", but what's worse is they haven't researched it for themselves. Just reading something in a newspaper doesn't make it the truth, and especially not on youtube or the conservative/liberal TV and radio.

Here's one more quote about rumors...

The flying rumours gather'd as the roll'd,
Scarce any tale was sooner heard than told;
And all who told it added something new.
And all who heard it made enlargements too.

- Alexander Pope,

These posts were on the conservative board

where we are free to talk about the extreme hatefulness coming from this board.  However, when some people wish the president dead...well that's bordering on a THREAT to the president.  I actually be afraid to post things like that.  You might receive a friendly knock on the door from the FBI.


Again, There were trolls on the liberal board (no consistent moniker that's the first thing that gives trolls away) posting VERY NASTY replies anytime a conservative posted anything on THEIR OWN BOARD.  It takes a lot nerve to argue with the administrator of this board who can delete you and ban you for any reason. It is a private board BTW no public doman.   Many of you have been stalking on the conservative board for weeks.  You have been posting near threats on the president....what do you expect the administrator to do!?  Start talking about real subjects and quit having a hate fest over here and you might find the administrator a little more sympathetic to your plight....


The first one says, do not bash their posts. It does not say stay off the board.
The second one I did not recall seeing. As I said, go to the conservative board and see what you see.  The same thing as here.  Stop whining about it and grow up.
No Reality, I was talking about their posts on the C board. :) nm

Great, great post. Thank you, Marmann! nm
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I am thinking the true Democrats on this board will not thank you for your posts. nm

This board is for liberal posters. Do not bash their posts. sm
Thank you.
The posts on the conservative board were supported by videos. sm
These videos all showed US Soldiers discussing their views on the war.  Much different than something you read in print. I would also like to say that the Military Times is NOT an armed forces newspaper.  It is privately owned and does not in any way speak for the military.  The generals are saying they will resign if we go into Iran. 
I think Palin was treated unfairly - just look at the posts on this board
I think it's a disgrace that McCain has not asked that this be stopped. But then again I think it's a disgrace that Obama wasn't outraged at the comment the KGO radio guy made about wanted Joe the Plumber dead.

I think Palin is an amazing woman and stood her ground.

Just look at this board. The republican party lost and the liberals are still attacking and demonizing her and for no good reason. And this is why I think the democrat party in Washington will fail the people once again. They can't let things go. It's like hearing the same story over and over and over while they snicker and gloat over issues like the porn movie that was created with a Palin look alike, and telling lies that her daughter actually had the downs baby when they knew it was a lie. Then the whole clothing issue was just ridiculous. We've got serious issues at hand like a war, a sinking economy, people out of work and all the democrats can talk about is where her clothes were bought, which were later returned or donated to charity. It's just disgraceful. If the democrats can't even look forward and stop bringing up Palin how is this country ever going to heal.
Keep you rapture ready posts on the Faith Board!
I have never seen a more ludicrous web site than Rapture Ready. This type of insanity belongs on the Faith Board, not the Politics Board.
Administrator: Someone is filling our board with drug ad posts on page 3.
Hmm - none on the conservative board.  Extreme Right wing conspiracy?
Ignore the posts. This board is pretty tame compared to others. sm
On Red State and Daily Kos the ad hom attacks are unbelievable.

The previous owner of this board banned everyone posting anti Bush comments, and there were constant neocon ad hom attacks. I am conservative but these are not my type of Republicans. There used to be a lot of good posters here.
But lately, you;ve contributed daily to the toxic liberal posts on this board.

As I said above, come back to this same board and apologize when he does a great job!
Geesh! Give the guy a chance already before you knock him!
If it's so great there, why don't you STAY there instead of attacking posters on this board

all the time?  I don't need to grow any skin, thank you.  If people are just simply NICE and treat me with respect, they receive the same in turn.  It's called the golden rule.  Liberals on this board follow the golden rule.  It's the conservatives who must constantly attack, and frankly, it's tiresome.  You add nothing of value to this board.  NOTHING.


Since I post in reply to other posts...
it would appear I am not the only one who has time to spend on a computer, though that has somehow escaped your attention. Monica moniker...cute. LOL.
I am going to repost the Administrator's post regarding posts here. SM

This is word for word.  If you cannot follow these rules, your posts will be deleted.  If you have a problem, contact the administrator. 


I will not tolerate continued slamming of the President and this country.  Ask yourself what you're really gaining by doing so.  My political affiliation has NO bearing on this whatsoever.  I expect people to behave appropriately on all forums.  ForuMatrix is a website that is open to the entire world, not just the US and I am ashamed of some of what I read knowing that people in other countries are reading it too.  Don't think for a minute that I am only pointing out the Liberal board. Far from it.  I've had to come down on some posters on the Conservatives board, too.  So, what this all comes down to is that respectful posting will be adhered to or I won't allow posting.  We need to go back to old fashioned VALUES, if we think that way then the words we write won't be as cutting.  You may not agree with me and that is your prerogative and I am not trying to censor you, rather I would prefer that you and others post in kind and with respect.


the reason why I post additional posts
is that I hate loooooong posts. Who wants to read comments that never end?
Got it?
Your post is soooo bitter, I think your face is green, lol.

Are you the Sherlock Holmes of the MTStars forum?

Post something intelligent on the Politics Board and stop 'chasing' posters who have a user name.

May I suggest a username for you?

How about

'Rumpelstilzchen.' LMAO !
Nan-ism post was in direct reply/rebuttal to the two posts above it.

Surely you would agree that when accused of something we should have a chance for rebuttal? And that our rebuttal would surely include proof/evidence of why we took a particular stand?  Would you deny the liberal board that right?  SOME of us may be tolerant (or as Nan put it, "sissies") but some of us are very capable of speaking up for ourselves.


I have read Nan on this board (and others as well) for almost two years so I think I have a pretty fair grasp of her opinion and style of posting.


great post
Im amazed at how much debate I have caused on both boards, LOL!  I have become *the* poster to be talked about, attacked, compared to.  Thank you for your refreshing post replying to IMHO a mean spirited obviously very troubled conservative poster.  This person has been on my case since day one, along with her two cohorts.  Frankly, from what I can see, they are just about the only ones who consistently post on the conservative board.  I guess others after a while get tired of the attack mode or just give up trying to debate logically and intelligently.  They say Im a lunatic and certifiable.  By reading their nasty posts, If anyone is certifiable, they are.  They say they are Christian.  Not like any Christian I have ever know.  The Christians I grew up with were nice, caring, accepting people.  Not judgmental hateful closed minded individuals.  I perused the conservative board this morning, just to see which republican they are admiring this morning or which democrat they are dogging and OMG, Im being posted about all over the board.  A few posted yesterday and right away they started asking were the posters gt!!  I cracked up laughing this morning.  No, I wasnt on their board posting.  I was in Mexico for the weekend and got back this morning..Gee, I generated this much attention and publicity by just posting on one little board in the vast expanse of the World Wide Web.  Amazing!  After reading their troubling posts, with all their attacks (one says she never attacks, yet one of her favorite words from what I have read is troll), I have decided not to read the conservative board any more.  I frankly dont need their negative energy..I feel sorry for all three of them.  They sound like they are angry bitter fools, clinging to a way and thought of life, so afraid frankly of anyone else with different and/or better ideas for this country.  Some people will never change and expand their consciousness as these three have proven to me.  This board I will continue to read and post from time to time, as it is a good open minded and accepting board and if the conservatives post an attack to me pertaining to this post, I will not read it nor respond. 
Great post
Thank you for this post..It was a good one.  :o)
Great post gt!
Clinton always did know how to speak in clear terms about the basics of a matter - and speak to all people in plain language. Mystifying how Dubya's supporters claim he's the plain-talking one when every time he opens his mouth he's twisting the topic completely out of recognition or else just babbling incoherently.
LOL! Great post!!

Great post.
Couldn't agree with you more. 
Great post, PK; thanks.

great post!!! thanks :)

Great post
Excellent points regarding health care, insurance, taxes. This is a conservative viewpoint. Less taxes brings in more revenue, but congress rarely gets it.

I agree that whoever is elected will not accomplish all stated promises/goals. That's always the case. So many believe that the president has power to do whatever he wants, but that is not the case and never has been.
Great Post...Thank You!
That makes it crystal clear!
You bet, ms! Great post. nm
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great post!!
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GREAT POST!!! nm
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GREAT post! Thank you!

Great post! You just know that if
the tables were turned they wouldn't want their money taken either. I have found that the people who moan and complain the most about not having any money are the ones who are in debt to the hilt, have never been taught to save a cent, blame the CC companies for making them charge so much and then expect the gov't to help them out in some way. How about this novel scenario: Work hard, save some money, don't try to outdo the neighbors with material things and take some responsibility. Don't expect a mere man who spouts pretty words and promises and only wants your vote to take care of you. Quit blaming the republicans, Bush, outsourcing, Wall Street fat cats, etc, and look in the mirror. The gov't cannot solve all your problems, be self-sufficient for once.
Great post!

My favorite part is: 


IF I am wrong one day when I meet my Creator I will find out and I'll take my Creator's answer any day over anyone who is reading something from a book I don't believe in.


IMHO, that's how freedom of religion is supposed to work.  Ironically, sometimes the only way to guarantee alleged freedom of religion is to have freedom FROM it.


It is a very personal issue that is ultimately between you and your Creator, not someone who demands to push their religious views on  you.


I recently heard a pastor give a prayer before a McCain rally, where he actually "warned" GOD that God's "reputation" is on the line here, and that God had better make sure that McCain becomes President or else those who believe in different "Gods" will "win."


This guy was essentially telling God to get his act together!


Great post!
This is an intelligent, straightforward, unbiased post.  The MTs on this board should take note of it and learn from it.
Great post. nm
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Great post. Thanks :)
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What a great post!
I agree 100% with you, geek.
I also compare him to JFK:

Obama is elegant, a great, charismatic speaker, he has a wonderful voice, he is magnetic, honest, diplomatic, seldom aggressive and much more....

His speach during his last campaign in Orlando/Florida was the best ever, it was just overwhelming.

Great post, GP.

And I couldn't agree more about pardons for the two border patrol agents.  Instead, Bush's pardons have largely consisted of crooks who were involved in the savings and loan scandal of the 1980s.  Given today's current banking crooks and the shambles of the global economy, that says a lot about Bush's "morals" that he would prefer to pardon banking crooks instead of two brave men who were merely doing their jobs.


I think one of the biggest -- if not THE biggest -- injustice in my memory is those two men even spending one minute in jail.


Great post - thanks.
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Great post!

You summed it up beautifully.  Thanks. 


Wow! Right on - great post
I agree so much and could not have said it any better. They are knighting him calling him the savior and he hasn't even taken office yet. Time will tell whether he is a good president or not.

Thank you for your post.
Great post! (sm)

I couldn't agree more.  For starters, though I'm certainly no fan of Iran, after seeing what the USA did to its neighbor, Iraq, why WOULDN'T I want to have a nuclear weapon if I were Iran?


And why IS Israel allowed to have a nuclear weapon (probably paid for by US)? 


After decades of "Israel is the chosen one and can do no wrong," I truly hope we become more even handed when dealing with the Middle East.  There are two sides to every story.  In my opinion, Israel's disproportionate response to the Palestinians a few weeks ago showed the world a LOT.


Some objectivity and accountability, I think, is needed and long overdue when we deal with Israel and her actions. 


As far as being "brave," your post was a lot more brave (and well written) than mine, and I agree with everything you wrote. 


Great post! (sm)

I couldn't agree more.  For starters, though I'm certainly no fan of Iran, after seeing what the USA did to its neighbor, Iraq, why WOULDN'T I want to have a nuclear weapon if I were Iran?


And why IS Israel allowed to have a nuclear weapon (probably paid for by US)? 


After decades of "Israel is the chosen one and can do no wrong," I truly hope we become more even handed when dealing with the Middle East.  There are two sides to every story.  In my opinion, Israel's disproportionate response to the Palestinians a few weeks ago showed the world a LOT.


Some objectivity and accountability, I think, is needed and long overdue when we deal with Israel and her actions. 


As far as being "brave," your post was a lot more brave (and well written) than mine, and I agree with everything you wrote. 


Great post, gee. (sm)
The more he fails, the worse it will be for us all.  I hope he succeeds. 
Great post! (sm)

The fact that the forgotten people you describe live in what is claimed to be the richest country on earth is appalling. 


I thought your post was excellent.  Thank you.